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$9 million N.C. civil rights museum....no attendance
Pilot Online ^ | 9/12/10 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/12/2010 4:13:11 PM PDT by bareford101

won't make attendance goal (even after spending more than 9 million dollars to open)

(snip) The museum's annual budget is about $3 million with the money coming from ticket sales, special programs and corporate contributions. The museum also hosts three fundraising events to help with operating funds. No public money is used for daily operations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: boondoggle; civilrights; federalmoney; federalspending; museum; nc; sitin
N.C. civil rights museum won't make attendance goal

The Associated Press © September 12, 2010 GREENSBORO, N.C.

A recent report on attendance at a new civil rights museum shows that despite widespread publicity, fewer than 6 percent of the visitors to the facility are from beyond North Carolina and neighboring states.

The News and Record of Greensboro reported Sunday that the first six months of the International Civil Rights Center & Museum in Greensboro saw about 40,000 people come through its doors. Organizers had estimated the facility would draw 200,000 visitors a year.

Fewer than 3,000 of those visitors came from beyond North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee and Virginia.

The museum's centerpiece is the Woolworth's lunch counter where black college students challenged the whites-only policy in 1960.

"We've just started," said Melvin "Skip" Alston, chairman of the museum's management committee and the Guilford County Board of Commissioners. "Three or four years, once we get it all together, then that's when we'll be averaging 200,000 a year.

"Once we get our whole organization up and running, yes, 200,000, I don't see that being a problem."

More than 80 percent of the museum's visitors have been from North Carolina and more than half of those were Greensboro, High Point or Winston-Salem residents.

The museum's annual budget is about $3 million with the money coming from ticket sales, special programs and corporate contributions. The museum also hosts three fundraising events to help with operating funds. No public money is used for daily operations.

Even though the museum has yet to bring outside visitors to the area, Henri Fourrier, president of the Greensboro Area Convention and Visitors Bureau, said he thinks it has attracted positive national attention that could translate in future visitors.

"I can't begin to say what it's done for us in terms of generating national press," Fourrier said. "We've had a tremendous number of travel writers come into the area."

The museum has been featured in several of the visitors bureau's advertisements, he said.

Those who do come say it is worth the trip.

"I've been coming here for 10 years waiting for it to open," Joy Cowdery, associate professor of education at Muskingum University in New Concord, Ohio, said during a recent visit. "Now, at last, it's open."

Muskingum sends a group of education majors to Greensboro every fall to improve their teaching skills at area facilities such as Gateway Education Center.

Her students who are too young to remember the struggle for civil rights in the 1960s were impressed by the exhibits at the museum.

"I think this is extremely valuable, especially for someone who is not familiar with the history, exactly what happened and how it happened," said Brock Whiteman, one of Cowdery's students who hopes to pursue a career in special education.

The museum is open Tuesday through Saturday. Tickets are $10 for adults with discounts for children, students and seniors.

1 posted on 09/12/2010 4:13:15 PM PDT by bareford101
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To: bareford101

and now for the “rest of the story”.

This project (also known as the Sit In Movement) was funded through our tax dollars, aka federal government money :

1) a $150,000 federal challenge grant from Save America’s Treasures .

(Amelia Parker, Executive Director of the Museum said, “Save America’s Treasures’ impact was two-fold. It provided critical early money to help get this project off the ground. But more importantly, the government’s support attached invaluable prestige and recognition that immediately signaled to state, city and private funders that this is a historic place of national import, and a worthwhile investment for the benefit of the community, the state and the nation.” Exemplary of SAT’s effectiveness to spawn economic development, the program’s early investment helped leverage the additional 98% of funding needed to complete this $23 million project— millions over the government’s share. This single project generated over 150 jobs—more than 100 for construction and about 50 in fabrication and design.)

2) $1 million from the State of North Carolina,
3) more than $200,000 from the City of Greensboro
4) more than $200,000 from Guilford County,
5) $148,152 from the U.S. Department of Interior through the National Park Service

As the 50th anniversary of the sit-ins grew closer, efforts increased to complete the project. Over 9 million dollars in donations and grants were raised. In addition, the museum qualified for historic preservation tax credits, which were sold for 14 million dollars. Work on the project proceeded, and was completed in time for the 50th anniversary opening. ]


2 posted on 09/12/2010 4:15:13 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: bareford101

Good grief! I wouldn’t walk across the street to see this place


3 posted on 09/12/2010 4:16:40 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: bareford101
"I've been coming here for 10 years waiting for it to open," Joy Cowdery, associate professor of education at Muskingum University in New Concord, Ohio, said during a recent visit. "Now, at last, it's open."

Duh?

4 posted on 09/12/2010 4:16:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't you dare try to use MY Constitution to protect and defend MY enemies!)
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To: bareford101

One more place to put on my list of places to avoid.


5 posted on 09/12/2010 4:17:49 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: basil
Good grief! I wouldn’t walk across the street to see this place

What if it had dinosaurs? Dinosaurs always get 'em in.

6 posted on 09/12/2010 4:19:55 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: bareford101
The museum's centerpiece is the Woolworth's lunch counter

Yawn.

7 posted on 09/12/2010 4:19:58 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: sionnsar

Cincinnati has an ‘underground museum’...rosey promises in the beginning....now begging for tax payer money to pay the light bill.....the managers make bizillions...the joint is empty....a monumental waste
simply appauling


8 posted on 09/12/2010 4:23:14 PM PDT by drdirt333
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To: bareford101
Doesn't sound like much of a “destination” vacation property. More like a compulsory field trip for third graders ..... like the “Deathcamp of Tolerance” South Park episode (#614) where the boys go to a Museum of Tolerance.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104220

I'm sure Parker and Stone made a lot of money on this satire of liberal guilt. Maybe the operators of this example of our tax dollars at work could learn something from their fine example.

9 posted on 09/12/2010 4:24:51 PM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: bareford101
fewer than 6 percent of the visitors to the facility are from beyond North Carolina and neighboring states

I know people who have relatives in NC but have sworn not to step foot in that state after the Duke Rape Hoax. Civil rights indeed.

10 posted on 09/12/2010 4:27:08 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: randog

Well,I think the whole “civil rights” thingee is a dinosaur. I’m not saying it wasn’t something that should have been done, because I live in the South, and we certainly weren’t very civilized to blacks back in the day. I’m just saying that the movement accomplished what it started out to do—so it’s over. (Not really—now we have to put up with quotas and affirmative action laws) but I think in reality, there’s no need for the “movement, today.


11 posted on 09/12/2010 4:27:29 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: bareford101
In addition, the museum qualified for historic preservation tax credits, which were sold for 14 million dollars

No public money is used for daily operations. I wonder if this 14 million is sitting in a lock box.
12 posted on 09/12/2010 4:29:03 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: bareford101

200 visitors per day?

20 per HOUR

or 5 families per hour, 1 family every 12 minutes

Must get lonely


13 posted on 09/12/2010 4:29:30 PM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: bareford101
Doesn't sound like much of a “destination” vacation property. More like a compulsory field trip for third graders ..... like the “Deathcamp of Tolerance” South Park episode (#614) where the boys go to a Museum of Tolerance.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104220

I'm sure Parker and Stone made a lot of money on this satire of liberal guilt. Maybe the operators of this example of our tax dollars at work could learn something from their fine example.

14 posted on 09/12/2010 4:29:30 PM PDT by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: jiggyboy

Oops, I forgot to add: It’s not out of spite or out of some faint hope their absence will somehow, through some incredibly long, karmic sequence of events, will show NC that it needs to mend its ways; it’s that they’ve seen how the law works, and fails to work, in NC. They quite frankly fear going to a place where there seems to be no real downside at any level to falsely accusing a white person of a vicious felony and bankrupting him on a whim.


15 posted on 09/12/2010 4:33:59 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: bareford101

Can someone look up how many visitors have come the the Guilford Courthouse Revolutionary War battlefield in comparison? The number has to exceed 200K per year, and it is a much more important historical location than a museum devoted to a “cause”


16 posted on 09/12/2010 4:35:19 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: stylin19a

I had missed that!


17 posted on 09/12/2010 4:38:46 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: bareford101

Hmmm...is this in the same category as NC’s Teapot Museum?


18 posted on 09/12/2010 4:39:11 PM PDT by ryderann
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To: John S Mosby

The small town where I live in NC has hopes of opening a private civil rights museum, but all they do is fund raise. I doubt it will ever open, can’t raise the money.


19 posted on 09/12/2010 4:40:04 PM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: bareford101

If NC used it’s education budget to send every student every year over and over... /s


20 posted on 09/12/2010 4:42:57 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: bareford101

I’m gonna suggest a museum of Muslim tolerance and the government will fall all over themselves to give me money.


21 posted on 09/12/2010 4:47:58 PM PDT by Selmore (Except for ending Slavery, Facism, Communism, and Nazism, War never has accomplished anything)
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To: John S Mosby
I looked and the last stat I could find was this: Visitors 277,484  in 2004 (using Bing, I typed in "how many visitors to Guilford Courthouse Revolutionary War Battlefield"
22 posted on 09/12/2010 4:48:26 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: Selmore

best “get rich quick” scheme going...


23 posted on 09/12/2010 4:49:15 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: bareford101
The News and Record of Greensboro reported Sunday that the first six months of the International Civil Rights Center & Museum in Greensboro saw about 40,000 people come through its doors.

That's only because it's new. It's downhill from here.

24 posted on 09/12/2010 5:04:33 PM PDT by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: sionnsar

“The museum’s centerpiece is the Woolworth’s lunch counter where black college students challenged the whites-only policy in 1960.”

Can I get a cuppa coffee for ten cents, and the turkey dinner with corn bread dressing, that has that greenish colored gravy?


25 posted on 09/12/2010 5:10:38 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Libloather

I really resent my money being spent for special interests.... minority of any kind of interests...


26 posted on 09/12/2010 5:16:44 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: bareford101

The National Civil Rights Museum in Memphis, Tennessee, has the same problems. It is in the hotel where MLK had his sex orgies the night before he was killed. The Federal Government funnels zillions of dollars to keep it open and some days it has as many as ten to twenty visitors.


27 posted on 09/12/2010 5:21:34 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: bareford101

Why would I travel to visit a museum to learn about how evil white people are? I can get that for free by watching any mainstream TV show or news broadcast.


28 posted on 09/12/2010 5:22:07 PM PDT by jtal
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To: MitchellC

Ping


29 posted on 09/12/2010 5:22:37 PM PDT by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost.)
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To: bareford101
No public money is used for daily operations.

Puh-leeze. I have no argument with this "museum" although I doubt it will ever have any strong appeal outside of required "educational" visits. But don't tell me there is no gubbermint funding. I ain't that stupid.

30 posted on 09/12/2010 5:29:55 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: bareford101
No public money is used for daily operations.

Nice dodge. Is any public money used for any purpose at all?

31 posted on 09/12/2010 5:31:27 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: MitchellC; Littlejon; RegulatorCountry

Skippy Alston pension Ping.


32 posted on 09/12/2010 5:36:09 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: Lurker

oh yeah, to stuff the pockets of the few who are “in” with the political climate...


33 posted on 09/12/2010 5:39:59 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: SharpRightTurn

I hope the anticipated crown duznt bother to make it to the polls either in a couple months.


34 posted on 09/12/2010 5:51:21 PM PDT by SgtHooper
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To: Rebelbase

Well, a nice old building on the corner of February One Place and South Elm Street got a goldplated renovation. That’s something tangible.

I recall overhearing a conversation in a downtown Greensboro restaurant, Liberty Oak I think, that really cemented the level of deceit going on with that immense featherbed for longtime racial pot-stirrers.

It seems there’s an underground river running beneath downtown, and it undermined the foundation of the Woolworth Building, requiring many more millions to stabilize than anticipated, lol. Not a peep about this from the much better, much more architecturally significant Kress Terrace just a block or two down Elm, with it’s rare Art Nouveau terracotta imbellishments and really nice streamlined Art Deco façade. Milton Kern is white and paid his own money to restore that one though, no demagoguery to benefit the Underground Railroad crowd.

Greensboro has become home over the twenty-two years I’ve lived in the area, I’ve got many friends here, love the history, it’s been good to me businesswise over the years, the last two and a half notwithstanding. But the racial element to politics and the associated graft is absolutely appalling. It sure gives Durham a run for the money.


35 posted on 09/12/2010 5:54:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: basil
Good grief! I wouldn’t walk across the street to see this place

No one in his right mind would.

I've always gotten a laugh out of the liberals in Buffalo who, bereft of actual economic knowledge, propose an endless stream of museums to boost the local economy.

Here's a letter in today's Buffalo News proposing a transportation museum on the waterfront.

We already have the wonderful Pierce Arrow Museum, and in Orchard Park we have the astonishing Pedaling History Bicycle Museum, which the owner has been trying to move to downtown for years. Combining these two institutions and expanding the idea into a Transportation and Industry Museum for Canal Side would fit perfectly and provide a fascinating educational experience for all ages.

Makes you want to get on Orbitz and book that flight to Buffalo right now, doesn't it?

36 posted on 09/12/2010 5:55:42 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: 100%FEDUP; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; ~Vor~; A2J; a4drvr; Adder; Aegedius; Afronaut; alethia; ...

NC *Ping*

Please FRmail MitchellC if you want to be added to or removed from this North Carolina ping list.
37 posted on 09/12/2010 6:08:13 PM PDT by MitchellC
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To: bareford101

I think I have found what is offputting (for me) about this museum:

2 Things

A) We already know the struggle of the civil rights activists, and how it led to greater freedom for black BECAUSE WE ARE DAILY/WEEKLY REMINDED ABOUT THIS by the powers that be in the media and education: It is overload.

I appreciate what the civil rights leaders did, but when you are pounded in the head by it daily/weekly it gets “old” and tiring.

2ndly

B) The Price, $10.00 is too much for me to got to this museum (where you already know pretty much 100% of what is going to be in it)- I was recently in Washington, D.C. and already saw a “replica” of the Greensboro lunch counter promently displayed in the Smithsonian Museum of American History.

10 Dollars would still be too much for me, even if I still lived in North Carolina.


38 posted on 09/12/2010 10:07:17 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Battle Ground Vermont..if we make Leahy a toss-up then all Dems are in trouble..)
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To: bareford101

$10 for adults and children pay too?

I probably wouldn’t even go to this museum if it was FREE. It’s overpriced for what you get unless they serve free food from the lunch counter.


39 posted on 09/13/2010 12:33:58 AM PDT by snowflake2428
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To: bareford101

If you build it, they will come.

Or not.


40 posted on 09/13/2010 3:25:49 AM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: bareford101
The museum's centerpiece is the Woolworth's lunch counter

every other commercial on TV these days shows that we are out of the discrimination era. But if they want visitors, I suggest they make a few commercials showing more dumb white guys, obediently following their much smarter wives who are deeply infatuated with the conversation they are having with the very intelligent and masculine black man. That would draw them in by the millions...

41 posted on 09/13/2010 3:38:25 AM PDT by sit-rep
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To: bareford101
The "rest of the rest of the story"...

There are a good handful of people in Greensboro who have become very, very rich off this museum.

There's lots of those millions that have wound up in the pockets of a select few. No one can mention who, though. 'Twould be racist to notice such things.

42 posted on 09/13/2010 6:39:09 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Mobties

A compulsory trip for elementary school kids is exactly all this waste of space is. I drive by it every day as I go to work, and the only time I see people inside are when I see a bunch of school buses parked in the street.


43 posted on 09/13/2010 8:51:48 AM PDT by LanPB01
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To: bareford101

To me this shows that while the civil rights movement of the ‘60s was needed, and a welcome relief, compared to the continuing world-wide denial of SERIOUS civil rights (slavery in Africa and China, 3rd class citizenship for women in Muslim countries, dictatorships and terrible corruption throughout the developing world) American racial discrimination, while wrong, was not as horrible as the Left today believes.

Americans BEFORE the ‘60s—the WWII and before generation—were a good and godly people, more-so in many ways, than they are today. Blacks, Jews, and other minorities—while treated unfairly by the system—were not cruelly and severely treated—as so many all around the world still are.

Yes, I’m glad for the accomplishments of the civil rights movement, then end of legal segregation was a very good thing—and I greatly desire to live in a color-blind America...but it seems to me the remnants of “the movement” are the biggest barrier to color-blindness left.

I also get very tired of the liberal-orthodoxy that we were a monstrously evil place before the enlightenment of 1960s generation....


44 posted on 09/14/2010 8:53:46 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns
I've been also thinking about the possibility of a color-blind society. And physically, it can't happen except to the visually handicapped.

But strangely enough, I have found that the only time I personally am “color-blind” is when I'm in a group of believers or interacting with a believer (and it might be a stranger). That might sound strange, but it's true. That's what breaks down all the barriers.... age, color, background, appearance, education...

45 posted on 09/14/2010 9:28:49 AM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: bareford101
But strangely enough, I have found that the only time I personally am “color-blind” is when I'm in a group of believers or interacting with a believer (and it might be a stranger). That might sound strange, but it's true. That's what breaks down all the barriers.... age, color, background, appearance, education...

Secular humanism--the ethic behind what we call liberalism--is most properly regarded as a Christian heresy. It is an attempt at (more or less) Christian ethics, without Christ. The love of Christ alone really breaks down the ethnic/racial/cultural barriers between peoples.

Christianity is "humanistic" in the sense that we have a Human as our head, that is Christ Himself. It is the only real and valid humanism--as it is also simultaneously the real worship of the one accessible, loving-and-righteous, personal God, unlike other forms of theism.

46 posted on 09/14/2010 9:50:19 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AnalogReigns

you have put into logical sentences what I was trying to say which makes it make sense! :) thank you


47 posted on 09/14/2010 9:56:06 AM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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