1 posted on
09/13/2010 5:16:19 AM PDT by
Kaslin
To: Kaslin
Justfying the arguement upon money is wrongheaded because it undermines the arguement against abortion.
Americans have never given benefits to people who do things illegally, - is a better moral argument.
2 posted on
09/13/2010 5:29:40 AM PDT by
frogjerk
(I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
To: Kaslin; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”
The same people who argue that the amendment awards U. S. Citizenship to the children of illegal aliens also lead you to believe that the courts have adjudicated this matter. Actually, they have not. What the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled is that children of permanent resident aliens (a classification under the immigration laws comprised of people who are here legally) are deemed to be U.S. Citizens. Our Supreme Court has never stated that the child of an illegal alien is automatically a citizen. .....
.There is another reason that people have adopted the impression that the law covers the children of illegal aliens it is because the issue was rarely asserted. If a person came here illegally a century ago and had a baby, they would give birth with a midwife and then raise the child by their own means. The world has changed. People come here and have babies in hospitals. Even a simple birth can run $10,000. If the baby is a preemie, the bill can be as high as $500,000. Once they leave the hospital, they can be supported by their parents or they can become beneficiaries of the state. In one year alone, Los Angeles County spent over $50 million on welfare benefits for the children of illegal aliens. That does not include other governmental costs, such as expenses borne by the state and federal bureaucracies. That is just one county”
Exactly!
3 posted on
09/13/2010 5:41:40 AM PDT by
sickoflibs
("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
To: Kaslin
Section 1 is a classic loophole in the law that needs to be closed immediately by the Supreme court.
4 posted on
09/13/2010 5:46:00 AM PDT by
Hacklehead
(Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
To: Kaslin
Wasn't it Newsweek that labeled Obama an "anchor baby?"
6 posted on
09/13/2010 7:19:38 AM PDT by
OrioleFan
(Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July, democrats believe every day is April 15.)
To: Kaslin
... and subject to the jurisdiction thereof ... **************
That one line settles the whole argument.
Illegal aliens are NOT subject to U.S. jurisdiction and therefore their children are NOT instant citizens. A baby born to a citizen of foreign allegiance is likewise a foreign citizen, no matter where the birth takes place, whether in Boston or on the moon!
Does a child born to the Swedish ambassador to the U.N. become a U.S. citizen if the kid was born in New York City? I think not.
Congress needs to pass a "Sense of the Congress" resolution to settle this. An Amendment to the Constitution is not required.
8 posted on
09/13/2010 7:26:03 AM PDT by
DNME
(With the sound of distant drums ... something wicked this way comes.)
To: Kaslin
The author never read the 1996 immigration reform.
Birthright citizenship and anchor baby are two DIFFERENT legal issues.
Custody follows the parents of the minor not the other way around. When illegal pararents are deported the citizen child goes with them. (the citizen can return at 18) but then there is no claim for the offspring that were born outside the USA for citizenship.
15 posted on
09/13/2010 11:58:23 AM PDT by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Kaslin
Well, even if we didn’t change anything else, no benefit should accrue to the parent, ie they should not be allowed to stay here.
22 posted on
09/14/2010 11:05:44 AM PDT by
brytlea
(Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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