That is an excellent observation.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 09/13/2010 8:40:02 PM PDT by Kabud
This is the original news report from SPRINGFIELD, Effingham County in Georgia, next to the entrance of I-95 to Florida.
Effingham deputies call feds after arresting Russians with shovel, wire cutters outside Georgia Power plant
by Evgeniy Luzhetskiy
SPRINGFIELD — Effingham County sheriff deputies have reported the early Sunday morning arrest of three men to the federal Joint Terrorism Task Force.
The men, two from Russia and one from Kazakhstan, were found near Georgia Power’s Plant McIntosh on Old Augusta Road about 1 a.m. Sunday after a ranger with the Department of Natural Resources reported a suspicious vehicle, Effingham County sheriff’s spokesman David Ehsanipoor said.
Deputies reported the men, who were inside a 1995 Nissan Pathfinder, had a machete, shovel, wire cutters and ski masks. One man also had black silk stockings in his front left pocket.
Arrested were Evgeniy Luzhetskiy, of Kazakhastan Nail Idiatullin and Rustem Ibragimov of Russia. All three reported they lived in Charleston, S.C., deputies reported.
The men were all charged with possession of tools during the commission of a crime.
The three were released after being interviewed by task force members, Ehsanipoor said.
"They did all have visas that allowed them to be here and are supposed to be leaving the country soon."
This is the letter to the editor of savannahnow.com :
To the editor:
I take my liberty to copy the postings that SavannaNow deleted:
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:47 pm these people are not amish also there are not jews Their ethnic background is one Russian, possibly Christian, and two others Russian Caucasians, possibly Muslims; however this background stuff does not matter, because their true religion is Communism and ethnically there are Marxists - these people don't have motherland, but there are willing to possess the whole Earth. And America is the only country which is an obstacle on their way; so tehre are ready for everything to ruin it.
By karkas1 | 09/10/10 - 07:40 pm You just caught three very dangerous Russian diversants and you are going to let them go?! Do you know what will happen next? Let me explain you. Their bosses back in Moscow will see that it is totally OK to send their agents to the US to set up various attacks against Americans. In case if these agents are caught, there is no punishment for them and in the worst case these agents will be sent back home, as it was done a couple of months ago to the guys from a spy ring, and as it is going to be done now. It means, that in the future you will have to expect tens of thousands of Russians who will be setting up various diversions on you sensitive objects, and even if catch some of them, others will do the job! If you want my advise what to do with these guys - here it is: put them to jail for at least 10 years. Next time they should be scared to go to America with bad intentions. Yet, BTW, Russians will respect you more.
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By Kabud | 09/12/10 - 04:43 am
Setting up one of these devices is complicated. The bombs need a small amount of power to keep them safely in storage. For example, the GRU specialist might have to run a very small wire to an electrical source, such as a power wire, and then attach it to the weapon. The wires can be run as far as one hundred yards or more from the weapon. The wires are small enough that they would easily break if someone tampered with them or tried to follow them to their source. In case there is a loss of power, there is a battery
Nuclear devices can also be slipped across the Mexican or Canadian borders. It is easy to get a bomb to Cuba and from there transport it to Mexico. Usually the devices are carried by a Russian intelligence officer or a trusted agent. If a Russian intelligence officer was for some reason not involved, the human missile transporting the device would be killed after safely handing it over to a GRU specialist. This is a simple security precaution.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/30259323/Why-Russia-is-More-Dangerous-Than-Eve...
2. Spetsnaz fighting shovel.
http://militaryanalysis.blogspot.com/2008_10_01_archive.html
The common Soviet/Russian entrenching tool. Sharp on three sides, a single monolithic object, unlike the current American entrenching tool. Used by Spetsnaz soldiers as a fighting weapon, silent, and in the right hands, downright deadly.
"In a combat training of Spetsnaz soldiers a great attention is paid to their ability to engage in hand-to-hand combat and to use hand-held weapon . . . an entrenching shovel is of special importance . . . it is a formidable weapon of the close combat."
"the entrenching shovel is an excellent throwing implement - the range of aimed throw made by a well-trained specialist is 10 meters or more."
A weapon used as a hand-to-hand fighting tool, and, WHEN USED IN THE RIGHT HANDS, A THROWING WEAPON ALSO!
Again - - from Suvorov:
http://militera.lib.ru/research/suvorov6/09.html
"In the hands of a spetsnaz soldier the spade is a terrible noiseless weapon . . . The little spade can be used in hand-to-hand fighting against blows from a bayonet, a knife, a fist or another spade . . . Finally a soldier is taught to throw the spade as accurately as he would use a sword or a battle axe . . . As it spins in flight [the spade has] accuracy and thrust. It becomes a terrifying weapon. If it lands in a tree it is not so easy to pull out again."
Here, thanks to the Russian web site: "Entrenching Shovel in Close Combat. Version of Spetsnaz GRU. Basic Fighting Technique." you can see video clips of Alexander Popov [???], demonstrating the fighting shovel combat technique.
You see a lot of twirls, pirouettes, jumps, etc. Ballet-like in form??!! This is characteristic of Russian style martial arts? Russian All-round Fighting [RAF] DOES emphasize Russian folk dance as a basis for many martial arts "moves"!? An indigenously developed Russian close-quarters-combat fighting form that is very effective!?
I would ask the question too, HOW OFTEN WOULD SUCH WEAPONS BE EMPLOYED?
Martial arts as taught to special operations units the world over are obviously useful, to say the least, but how often used? I would think very rarely, if at all?
Such martial arts techniques are more than anything else an excellent way of developing physical fitness, building confidence, instilling aggressiveness, AND OF COURSE - - PERHAPS KILLING AN AMERICAN SENTRY - - NOISELESSLY - - WITH A KNIFE OR A SHOVEL!!
An even more frightful weapon is a spade in the hands of a skilled fighter. It was with the Soviet Army spade that we began this book. Ways of using it are one of the dramatic elements of sambo. A spetsnaz soldier can kill people with a spade at a distance of several metres as easily, freely and silently as with a P-6 gun.
Lunev asserted that some of the hidden caches could contain portable tactical nuclear weapons known as RA-115 "suitcase bombs". Such bombs have been prepared to assassinate US leaders in the event of war, according to him [1] Lunev states that he had personally looked for hiding places for weapons caches in the Shenandoah Valley area[1] and that "it is surprisingly easy to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US, either across the Mexican border or using a small transport missile that can slip undetected when launched from a Russian airplane [1]
God Bless USA
From Kabud | 09/12/10 - 01:37 pm http://losangeles.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel10/la051810.htm The FBI is coordinating a training exercise among multiple government and law enforcement organizations at the national and local level, to exercise response capabilities relative to a terrorist attack involving an improvised nuclear device. The exercise will take place Monday, May 17th through Wednesday, May 19th.
But mind that there is no such thing as `homemade nuke`. ON the other hand a suitecase device is a real one. So it is all just double speak.
From New York Times article published on 04/16/2010
Intelligence officials feared that bomb parts might be delivered in diplomatic mail pouches, carried by international air travelers in their luggage or delivered by boat or submarine to an isolated beach.
Communist agents already in the country might then assemble, plant and detonate the weapons. “Surveillance of all Communist Party members and sympathizers is impossible and impractical since numerically they exceed by many times the total Special Agent force of the F.B.I.,” a bureau memo complained. J. Edgar Hoover, the F.B.I. director, who was intensely focused on the smuggling threat, proposed increasing manpower to cope.
Among many potential nuclear saboteurs, F.B.I. field offices identified the proprietor of a left-wing bookstore in Seattle, a reporter for the Soviet news agency Tass and even a representative of the American Council for a Democratic Greece.
When the Polish consul to Detroit arrived in the United States in the mid-1950s with four big boxes, F.B.I. agents surreptitiously searched them for nuclear material. They found 24 bottles of cherry cordial but “no article or part thereof that could be construed as a portion of a weapon of mass destruction,” their secret report solemnly declared.
Security officials later speculated about whether China might set off a smuggled nuke in the United States and make it look like a Soviet attack, provoking devastating war between its rivals. Later, as portable tactical nuclear weapons proliferated in both Eastern and Western Europe, there were periodic alarms about their security.
In the 1950s the United States knew its adversaries had weapons; the mystery was whether they might use them. Today, said Jeffrey T. Richelson, a historian of nuclear weapons, the situation is reversed: Qaeda leaders have suggested publicly that they would use a nuclear weapon, “but as far as we know, Al Qaeda hasn’t even come close to building a bomb.”
(Excerpt) Read more at http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/16/world/16memo.html
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If so, are they really operational? I've read that they would have become useless by now due to radioactive destruction of the key electronics.
As to Russian or ex-Soviet involvement, who would benefit and why from such a demolition? Follow the money and power.
Intrigue ping.
this is IMPORTANT
same antisemitic stuff is spread around in Ukraine
for the same reason:
ruski want to ignite xenophobia so we will be fighting each other but not THE ENEMY
Antesemitism is a precursor to anti americanizm
it is a method to provoke world war 3
it was exactly Stalin plan to provoke USA in early 50s but some people poisoned Stalin as you know : they did not want the war then
but now ruski fell that they have a strategic advantage :
ruski have biological weapons: we DONT
ruski have 4 times more nukes then USA
ruski have chemical weapons we dont
ruski have Al Queda, HAMNAS, Hesbollah etc
we are overweight crowd of shoppers
Well, this is weird.
Early this year I had a dream that I was in Atlanta.
While I was there, a nuclear bomb detonated in the city.
In my dream, I was not hurt, but I witnessed the fireball.
I also saw a second nuke detonate at a nearby train station, incinerating the trains and nearby buildings.
In my dream, the attacks were blamed on the Russians.
Thanks, Obama, for weakening America. 2012 can’t come fast enough.
Russian officials confirmed in mid 90s to USA gov
that
IT WAS WHAT THEY DID
Ah, probably not.
First, Georgia only has two nuclear plants - one in Baxley, and one in Waynesboro - neither are anywhere near where these men were arrested.
Second, I went to school to be an economist and a lawyer, and even with my embarrassingly limited understanding of physics, I know enough to understand that nuclear power plants don't "blow up". Even with a massive conventional explosion inside the reactor chamber, there is not NEARLY enough fissile material at a nuclear plant for it to "blow up". The laws of physics dictate that there need be a certain quantity of fissile material available to reach critical mass, and that quantity far exceeds what is found in ANY nuclear power plant. You could have a huge "dirty bomb", but you could not have a "nuclear explosion".
If we live in a country that educates people so poorly that they believe nuclear power plants can "blow-up" (like thermonuclear warhead), we have MUCH BIGGER problems than Al Qeada, because we clearly would have a country of imbeciles.
USA is the only obstacle to China-Russian domination
You got to read and watch ruski TV:
mostly ALL ruski politicians talk anti american , very intimidating stuff
If USA is weakened: world is tuning to Moscow
they will have us all exterminated
there is no other reason ruski invested around 100 trillion dollars since 1945 in arming themselfs with WMD
They NEVER waste nothing like 100 tril
Does anyone else have a problem with that sentance?
Yeah, right.
That remains to be seen.
same antisemitic stuff is spread around in Ukraine for the same reason:
I was talking about your description of what's happening on the savannahnow forum.
we are overweight crowd of shoppers
I'm an underweight hermit. I think maybe you're nuts.
This is chilling. Did the local authorities get instructed by “the feds” to let these men go? It sounds very much like Georgia dodged an event of some kind at that plant, although these people could have been on a dry run. That said, it makes the reader wonder what on earth these police were thinking to free this trio.
Thanks for posting this. The reader comments at the source article are well worth reading, btw.
They voted for 0bama, didn't they?
nuki power plant has RADIOACTIVE material
if it blows: it will be Chornobyl like event: spread of radiation of a long term type, not like nuki exploision
Great. I’m going to Atlanta this week.
That is an excellent observation.
posters at savannah sound like they are paid by ruski
you have to read something about how ruski hire people to post massively online. Come out from your cave, read, learn
Also check the statistic of Americans been overweight
And look into how THAT effect immune system
Ruski military planners TOOK it into account
it is all easily can be found in open sources.
Nuts are THOSE who cant read and learn.
Obviously You are not nuts, right?
posters at savannah sound like they are paid by ruski
you have to read something about how ruski hire people to post massively online. Come out from your cave, read, learn
Also check the statistic of Americans been overweight
And look into how THAT effect immune system
Ruski military planners TOOK it into account
it is all easily can be found in open sources.
Nuts are THOSE who cant read and learn.
Obviously You are not nuts, right?
I believe that folks will be aghast at how many were brought in and how devastating they were to critical sites and people.
. . .
It’s kind of like watching the surface people march passively to the underground Morlachs to be eaten in
THE TIME MACHINE.
The sheeple seem determined to be willfully blind . . . even on FR.
That goes without saying. Obviously. ;^)
-PJ
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