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Rauf on the Ropes
City Journal ^ | 09/13/10 | Judith Miller

Posted on 09/14/2010 6:30:54 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Rauf on the Ropes

An Islamic community center at Ground Zero seems increasingly unlikely.

13 September 2010

The white flag hasn’t reached the top of the flagpole yet, but Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf all but surrendered on Monday morning in his battle to build a Muslim interfaith community center with a prayer room two blocks from Ground Zero. At an unusual meeting Monday morning at the Council on Foreign Relations in midtown Manhattan, Rauf said that he wanted to find a “solution” to the furious imbroglio over the planned center, which opponents say is inappropriate, insensitive to the memory of those who died in the 9/11 attacks, and likely to inflame tensions rather than build bridges between Muslims and non-Muslims. Saying that his advisors were “looking at every option,” including a suggestion that the project be delayed until it could win greater support and become less divisive, the imam pledged to “do what’s best for all.”

“Everything is on the table,” he told the more than 300 members of the group, which rarely holds on-the-record meetings and normally focuses on foreign affairs and national security rather than domestic or urban issues. In fact, the imam this morning was acknowledging the obvious: the project has been on de facto hold for weeks because of the numerous obstacles it now faces—first and foremost, a lack of funding.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cfr; cordobainitiative; groundzero; groundzeromosque; gzmosque; imamfeisalrauf; imamrauf; judithmiller; miller; mosque; opposition; rauf

1 posted on 09/14/2010 6:30:56 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious; nw_arizona_granny; ...

P!


2 posted on 09/14/2010 6:31:36 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’ll believe it when he throws in his turban.


3 posted on 09/14/2010 6:32:15 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Make room under the Obama Bus. Incoming!


4 posted on 09/14/2010 6:33:07 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: grobdriver

I’ll believe it when somebody else buys that building and puts a Hillshire Farms warehouse full of pork products in it.

}:-)4


5 posted on 09/14/2010 6:35:11 AM PDT by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: TigerLikesRooster
I'll believe it when I see it, but when I see it, I know who will be getting the credit.

6 posted on 09/14/2010 6:36:06 AM PDT by Genoa (Titus 2:13)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Maybe Rauf is reacting to the investigations of his background and financing, like the one that turned up his association with a “truther” who believes 911 was an inside job.


7 posted on 09/14/2010 6:37:31 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Don’t turn your back on him.

These folks been trading camels a heck of alot longer than we have.


8 posted on 09/14/2010 6:40:06 AM PDT by moovova
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Rauf on the Ropes

Rauf and Ropes.... I'm getting the most delicious imagery!

9 posted on 09/14/2010 6:40:28 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Islam is a sham religion otherwise it would treat women a whole lot better than it does.

Islam is not a “religion” of peace but of conquest power and control at all costs.

Islam has more to do with Machiavellian principles than with God.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 6:40:47 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Why should we believe anything this guy says? He obviously talks out of both sides of his mouth.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 6:40:52 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: TigerLikesRooster

It will never be okay, NEVER>


12 posted on 09/14/2010 6:40:52 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: grobdriver

Me, too.


13 posted on 09/14/2010 6:41:25 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: swain_forkbeard
Somebody should walk pot-bellied mini-pig everyday in front of the so-called Mosque if it opens. Or open ham & sausage specialty store next door.
14 posted on 09/14/2010 6:41:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I bet the Democrats are screaming at this guy to go away until after November.


15 posted on 09/14/2010 6:41:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Jihadis never give up. They just declare a truce until they can rebuilt, re-arm, and re-load!

They are relentless and that's why they'll win if we don't wake up as a nation and defend ourselves.

Cheeze, they even have one of their own in the Oval Office.

16 posted on 09/14/2010 6:42:17 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Imam Rauf may be serving in the 'propaganda and obfuscation' MOS but he is still a terrorist!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The Dog Imam. Roufff, Rouffff. Grrrrrrr.


17 posted on 09/14/2010 6:42:37 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ev Reeman

Islam is the religion of Lucifer! And he’s doing a pretty good job of winning so far.


18 posted on 09/14/2010 6:44:18 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Imam Rauf may be serving in the 'propaganda and obfuscation' MOS but he is still a terrorist!)
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To: AppyPappy

Now the imam has said ground zero is not “hallowed ground”/proves just how insane this imam is...just like all the other imams.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 6:45:52 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Miller is clueless. The mosque will be built with Obama’s blessing.


20 posted on 09/14/2010 6:52:17 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

You are so correct. The good mudslime is not quitting—it is just a change of tactics—he will lay low and then in bit by bit under the radar fashion have his rabat/fort just where he intends. Ten years, this will again be an issue.

He knows the intensity and memories of the event fade and he can again gain the stage to manipulate the grinning communist national media and other anti-American elements to new frenzy.

He, and those like him will revisit the same grotesque act—even if it is a thousand years in the making.


21 posted on 09/14/2010 6:56:43 AM PDT by petertare (--. of)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

We can’t let Rauf take a victory lap at Ground Zero!!


22 posted on 09/14/2010 6:59:32 AM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I live overseas (in Asia) and 100% of the people I meet in the real world here (and anywhere outside of NY, DC, or SF) say it is clear that Rauf is MOCKING the USA with the mosque at ground-zero. I am also told if it goes forward, this mosque will be an everlasting JOKE on the USA, and a real sign of weakness, division, and self-hatred within the USA.


23 posted on 09/14/2010 7:00:48 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: petertare

These are a MUST SEE.

Three Things About Islam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Of Mosques and Men: Reflections on the Ground Zero Mosque

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxFzFIDbKpg


24 posted on 09/14/2010 7:02:13 AM PDT by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If Rauf doesn’t like living here the way we are, then let him move to Somali or Yemen where he belongs.


25 posted on 09/14/2010 7:08:10 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Moose4

It’s been a JJ/Acorn scam from the beginning....

Ala: “How much willl you give me not to build the mosque?”


26 posted on 09/14/2010 7:14:38 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Next demonstration at site shoul be an “eat in” Ribs for all...Leave the garbage.


27 posted on 09/14/2010 7:16:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: PGR88
it is clear that Rauf is MOCKING the USA with the mosque at ground-zero.

You can see it in his face! He's mocking the U.S. and he's loving it!

The entire muslim world can see that, as much as regular Americans are against the mosque, Rauf and the jihadis now have the U.S. president and the Mayor of NYC in their pockets.

It is obvious that Obama is supremely pro-muslim (to the exclusion of any other bloc), but how the muslims bought off Bloomie is still a mystery.

28 posted on 09/14/2010 7:18:18 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Imam Rauf may be serving in the 'propaganda and obfuscation' MOS but he is still a terrorist!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

He isn’t surrendering, he is plotting as to how best to get what he wants anyway. Biding his time, etc.

These people NEVER surrender.


29 posted on 09/14/2010 7:21:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: PGR88
I think they understand it better than our elites--there's no other reason why the Muslims are so insistent on having it at that location.

Imam Rauf should have tried to become more American and taken the last name Kramden. Rauf Kramden..."To the moon god, Alice!"

30 posted on 09/14/2010 7:23:24 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: TigerLikesRooster

3 things most people don’t know about islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib9rofXQ16w&feature=player_embedded

Check it out.


31 posted on 09/14/2010 7:23:44 AM PDT by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
"Jasser said, “America needs to be leading a war of ideas in which not only terrorism itself is condemned, but the ideas that underlie and feed such actions.”

With this guy's name, I'm assuming that he is most likely Moslem. And he has hit the nail on the head in this war on Islamo Fascism. Yes, that is the war we are waging, not a war on terror. George Bush's only mistake in this war so far is not labelling it what it is. We are not only in a war on battlefields but a war on an idea, a culture, a way of life.

It's the same as WWII. The reason why we were able to completely defeat the Germans, Japanese and their allies is that we defeated them militarily and completely discredited their ideas of Fascism or National Socialism in all it's forms. If we had not done that, these countries would not be reformed into what they are today. Democracies competing with us economically and not militarily. The same thing has to be done to Islamo Fascism.
32 posted on 09/14/2010 7:28:39 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
"how the muslims bought off Bloomie is still a mystery. "

Apparently business deals in oil rich ME.

33 posted on 09/14/2010 7:49:47 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Or Secretary of the Treasury.


34 posted on 09/14/2010 8:07:07 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (Imam Rauf may be serving in the 'propaganda and obfuscation' MOS but he is still a terrorist!)
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To: petertare

Which is why, in the next ten years, we’ll need to buy the property and build something on it...

...something that renders the site unfit for a mosque. Maybe a skyscraper with a synagogue in it? Or one with a mall that sells Hillshire Farms summer sausages and polska kielbasa?


35 posted on 09/14/2010 8:20:14 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: PGR88
I agree with the 100% of the people you have met in the real world, there. Without stooping to the level of irrational acts, we have got to respect ourselves. Respect begets respect. We're losing the war of ideology if we all take matters into our own hands, acting independently. We must be a unified, dignified, respectful force of Americans, locked arm in arm and solid. Those who wish to destroy us use our laws against us. We were meant to be a nation of laws and respect for each other. Somehow, we have to regain the high moral ground. We started there, let's get back up the hill and plant the flag.

The Imam Rauf needs to come clean and needs to prove something to America — sorry, but that's the way it is. If we can't vet his background, then we can't give him carte blanche. Every single main line religious organization in the US has a hierarchy that governs its deeds, message and actions. There is some accountable organization that can and will be sued if things get out of hand. That is the problem with every "private revelation" of the gospels or verses. There is nothing that guides it. Where is his organization, where and how does his funding come, what governing body is the sole interpreter of his “verses”? All these questions are unanswered.

He can only be judged by what we know of him and right now, it's not looking too favorable. I don't know of any reasonable human being who would allow the possibility of toppling a civilization or country without the necessary investigation of motive and means. Cooler heads must prevail.

36 posted on 09/14/2010 8:32:28 AM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I heard there was town in Spain, I think, that buried pork where they were going to build a Mosque and that stopped the whole thing. A little well placed bacon grease perhaps?


37 posted on 09/14/2010 8:42:06 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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"“Everything is on the table,” he told the more than 300 members of the group>"

So the Mecca Synagogue and the Mecca Church rebuilding projects could still go ahead. Great. Now we're making progress.

38 posted on 09/14/2010 9:08:35 AM PDT by cookcounty ("I can see November from my house!" ---Sarah Palin)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Taqqiya


39 posted on 09/14/2010 9:13:59 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Imam Rauf on Israel’s Destruction

Posted by Ryan Mauro on Sep 13th, 2010

http://frontpagemag.com/2010/09/13/imam-rauf-on-israels-destruction/

He (Rauf) has also involved himself with the Muslim Brotherhood, the parent organization of Hamas that is dedicated to destroying Israel and bringing the world under Shariah Law.

Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, the founder of the American-Islamic Forum for Democracy, opposes Imam Rauf’s project partially because of his reluctance to confront the Muslim Brotherhood.

He points out that Rauf describes top Brotherhood theologian Sheikh Yousef al-Qaradawi as a “moderate” in his book despite his history of anti-Semitism, endorsement of suicide bombings and Hamas, support for the killing if U.S. soldiers in Muslim lands, and calls for Muslims to wage jihad against Israel until it’s destroyed.

“You now lecture Americans that WTC mosque protests are ‘politically motivated’ and ‘go against the American principle of church and state.’

Yet you ignore the wide global prevalence of far more dangerous theo-political groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and all of its violent and nonviolent offshoots,” Jasser writes.


40 posted on 09/14/2010 9:50:21 AM PDT by rosettasister
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To: Paladin2

PC will kill us all.

Even RINOs fall for that BS.


41 posted on 09/14/2010 5:28:11 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Those who wish to destroy us use our laws against us.


The commies do this and now the Jihadis are doing it.


42 posted on 09/14/2010 5:30:37 PM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Moose4
I’ll believe it when somebody else buys that building and puts a Hillshire Farms warehouse full of pork products in it.

If somehow or other the ground beneath the building got saturated with gallons and gallons of pigs blood, and it was publicly made known, then no mosque could be built on that ground.

43 posted on 09/14/2010 5:31:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: moovova

>> These folks been trading camels a heck of alot longer than we have.

Indeed.


44 posted on 09/14/2010 5:32:50 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Bump.


45 posted on 09/16/2010 3:49:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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