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Disability numbers on the rise (The new welfare office Social Security)
dailymail.com ^ | September 7, 2010 | Jared Hunt

Posted on 09/14/2010 1:55:38 PM PDT by goldendays

Disability numbers on the rise by Jared Hunt Daily Mail Capitol Reporter Advertiser

CHARLESTON, W.Va.--The percentage of West Virginians receiving Social Security Disability benefits ranks highest in the nation, according to data from the Social Security Administration.

In an August report, the agency said 91,273 people - 5.02 percent of the state's population - are considered disabled workers.

Following West Virginia in the rankings were Arkansas, at 4.44 percent; Kentucky, 4.41 percent; Alabama, 4.34 percent; and Mississippi, 4.11 percent.

Another 14,835 West Virginians were listed as dependent spouses or children of those on disability, bringing total beneficiaries to 106,108.

The number of disabled workers in the state has increased sharply over the past few years, in keeping with a national trend.

The figure has risen by more than 34 percent since 2002, when it stood at 67,905.

More than $108.5 million in disability payments were made to state residents last year, with the average monthly amount $1,128.

State Sen. Dan Foster, D-Kanawha, who worked as a surgeon for 28 years, said the state's high ranking can be attributed to poor health habits.

"We have an unhealthy population," Foster said. "We have the highest percentage of people with chronic disabilities, whether that's disabilities that are incurred in the workplace or related to chronic diseases that have occurred because of unhealthy habits of one sort or another."

Foster said the state's high rates of obesity and smoking are key contributing factors to non-work-related disabilities.

"Those few things there add up to a lot of issues related to complications of diabetes, chronic lung disease, congestive heart failure and cancer, so it would be shocking if we weren't at the top of the list based on those other recognized problems."

While there are state-specific issues keeping disability claims high, West Virginia's rise in claims also is part of a much larger national trend.

Disability program expenditures increased seven-fold from an inflation-adjusted $18 billion to $124 billion between 1970 and 2009.

A July report by the Congressional Budget Office says the disability program is "not financially sustainable." Its study found that should current trends continue, the Disability Insurance Trust Fund, which is financed through a 1.8 percent payroll tax, will be exhausted by 2018.

The study found the lack of jobs is a key contributor to rising rates of disability applications.

"When opportunities for employment are plentiful, some people who could qualify for DI benefits find working more attractive," the report said. "Conversely, when employment opportunities are scarce, some of those people participate in the DI program instead."

Researchers found that applications increased immediately following the onset of the recessions of the early 1990s and 2001. It also found that beneficiaries remained on disability even after the economy improved.

"Many people who have been out of the labor force for extended periods find it difficult to return to work, and new beneficiaries rarely leave the DI program to return to work simply because the economy has improved," the budget office said.Tuesday September 7, 2010 Disability numbers on the rise by Jared Hunt Daily Mail Capitol Reporter Page 2 of 2 Advertiser

The trend is predicted to continue.

"CBO projects that as a result of the most recent recession, the number of DI beneficiaries will continue to rise over the next few years by more than otherwise would have occurred, contributing to the long-term trend of rising enrollment already underway."

The report also cited changes in federal policy, including a 1984 Disability Benefits Reform Act, which expanded ways individuals could qualify for the program, as well a reduction in funding for disability reviews, which determine if a person's medical state has changed to a point where they no longer qualify.

Decreased funding resulted in a 65 percent decline in disability reviews between 2003 and 2008. An estimated 1.5 million reviews are on backlog.

The Social Security Administration's Office of the Inspector General estimates disability outlays will be between $556 million and $1.1 billion higher nationwide as a result of the review backlog.

The budget office's study found that people's lack of private health insurance was a contributing factor toward their decision to apply for disability, since disabled dependents are covered by Medicare after a 24-month waiting period.

The report said it is unclear if recently enacted national heath care reform will result in a drop in beneficiaries. The changes are to make it easier for disability applicants to obtain subsidized, lower-cost insurance while they are in the 24-month waiting period for Medicare.

Regardless of the national issues, Foster said there are actions the state could take to reduce West Virginia's high number of disabled residents.

"The solution is, of course, to try to do what we can to make people healthier and to try to improve the economy so that there are more jobs," he said.

"If people had more opportunities for future employment, that would help, but getting a healthier population has so many benefits for the state.

"While people argue that it comes down to personal responsibility, there are things we can do to make it easier for someone to be personally responsible. It's a collaboration, in my view."

Foster said the state could provide better education about nutrition and exercise and more access to recreational activities. Improving the state's networks of trails and sidewalks could encourage better behaviors, he added.

He believes increasing the cigarette tax could be effective in limiting smoking-related chronic illness.

"Just increasing the cigarette tax a measurable amount, there'd be benefits you could account for," he said.

"And having an aggressive initiative to make people become more active and eat better - changing behaviors is not easy, but there are communities around the county that have done a better job than we have.

"We're paying the price."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Alabama; US: Arkansas; US: Kentucky; US: Mississippi; US: West Virginia
KEYWORDS: alabama; arkansas; kentucky; mississippi; security; social; ssi; welfare; westvirginia
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1 posted on 09/14/2010 1:55:43 PM PDT by goldendays
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To: goldendays

bttt


2 posted on 09/14/2010 2:02:18 PM PDT by IbJensen (Our government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.)
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To: goldendays

I know someone right now who gets disability and even though he does have some health issues it doesn’t stop him from being a crack head and that is where his money goes. Makes me sooooo mad.


3 posted on 09/14/2010 2:04:14 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: goldendays

I was doing some work in a doctor’s office recently, and one of their nurses was telling me about how they see LOTS of patients that show up trying to get the doctor to help them get on SS Disability. The doctor wouldn’t go along with it, and the nurse said that the patient left angry, saying they would find a doctor that WOULD. It’s the new ‘American Dream’ around here. Get on disability, get the ‘food stamp’ card, free rent, and you’re set for life. I’m sure this is going on everywhere.

My wife has a relative that is pretty much like that. We calculated that the leach gets around $30,000 per year in government handouts, between her and her three bastard children.

We are so screwed.....


4 posted on 09/14/2010 2:05:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: goldendays
The skilled scammers get on disability with BS like "authority aversion". The rest of us pay for it. It rubs me the wrong way to see of 400+ lb "human" ooze out of a car in a handicapped parking place, then wallow into an "all you can eat" establishment. Where is the personal responsibility?
5 posted on 09/14/2010 2:06:12 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: goldendays

Keep those fat checks rolling in!!!


6 posted on 09/14/2010 2:09:06 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: meanie monster
“I know someone right now who gets disability and even though he does have some health issues it doesn’t stop him from being a crack head and that is where his money goes. Makes me sooooo mad.”

I have a neighbor who gets disability and for the life of me there is absolutely nothing wrong with her that I can tell. It turns out she hired a lawyer and expert witnesses and sued to prove she had fibromyalgia. She is one of the most active people I know and has never complained about any pain to me. I think she is simply gaming the system.

7 posted on 09/14/2010 2:09:40 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: goldendays

I always heard of disability refered to as “white man’s welfare.”


8 posted on 09/14/2010 2:11:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: meanie monster

Fat girl down the street, got knocked up her junior year in school by a druggie, that has now spent about 12 years in jail during his marriage, oldest kid is about fourteen, but she has three, never worked a day in her life , husband is still a pot head and she applies for disability.


9 posted on 09/14/2010 2:12:35 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: goldendays

This is one area in which I think there is some misinformation. When I first graduated from college, I worked for a year as a claims rep for Social Security.

Social Security disability is one of the hardest to qualify for of any. I think something like 90 percent are turned down initially and not all that many qualify eventually.


10 posted on 09/14/2010 2:12:56 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: KoRn

I work in a bank.

I can almost pick out the fake-disabled ones. What’s funny is the TRULY disabled seem to still work a job, somewhere, unless they’re over 60 or so and mostly retired anyway.

What I’m talking about are the 30-somethings (and younger) who, aside from being kinda stupid, don’t seem to have anything wrong with them. Sure, people can have spinal injuries, mental problems, or fatigue issues that are far greater than one can see with the eye, etc. The ones I’m talking about though, they all have the same personality - dumb, history of drugs, live in trailer parks (no offense to others in trailer parks), not particularly attractive, etc.

I believe the law states that as long as you’re medically unable to do your chosen profession, you’re “disabled.”

So if you were a construction worker, and lost a leg, you can’t work in the field anymore, but that doesn’t mean you can’t sit at a desk as an analyst, or design something on a computer, or even drive a modified vehicle, or whatever.

Disability pays what, $1600 a month? You can’t tell me that most of these people can’t find SOMETHING they can do, even part-time, telework, whatever, that can pay them that much.


11 posted on 09/14/2010 2:16:43 PM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: Gabrial

FWIW fibromyalgia is a real disorder, but crap like that is one reason people tend to believe it’s not.


12 posted on 09/14/2010 2:19:08 PM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: yarddog

And many of us with a disability cannot and will not qualify because of the leeches. They need to reform the rolls, and ‘obesity’ shouldn’t be a disability.

If I could fix myself, you should bet that I would, but I don’t have an option there. I have to deal with it.


13 posted on 09/14/2010 2:20:46 PM PDT by BenKenobi (“this country will be less conservative with Castle voting 55% with the GOP")
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To: RockinRight

“What’s funny is the TRULY disabled seem to still work a job, somewhere, unless they’re over 60 or so and mostly retired anyway.”

We want to contribute and anyone who gives us a blasted chance will be rewarded. The best thing for truly disabled folks is to find them a job where the talents they do have can be put to use.

Businesses benefit and people with disabilities benefit. Instead we all end up paying 1200 a month to these leeches who scam the system.


14 posted on 09/14/2010 2:23:18 PM PDT by BenKenobi (“this country will be less conservative with Castle voting 55% with the GOP")
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To: yarddog
“This is one area in which I think there is some misinformation. When I first graduated from college, I worked for a year as a claims rep for Social Security.
Social Security disability is one of the hardest to qualify for of any. I think something like 90 percent are turned down initially and not all that many qualify eventually.”

I don't have much experience with this, but it seems there is a whole industry out there that helps people game the system.

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how-do-you-qualify-medically-for-disability.html

15 posted on 09/14/2010 2:26:11 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: yarddog
“This is one area in which I think there is some misinformation. When I first graduated from college, I worked for a year as a claims rep for Social Security.
Social Security disability is one of the hardest to qualify for of any. I think something like 90 percent are turned down initially and not all that many qualify eventually.”

I don't have much experience with this, but it seems there is a whole industry out there that helps people game the system.

http://www.disabilitysecrets.com/how-do-you-qualify-medically-for-disability.html

16 posted on 09/14/2010 2:26:19 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Chickensoup

“I always heard of disability refered to as “white man’s welfare.”

That may be, but wait until being a minority is deemed a disability in this “racist” country of ours. With 40+% of black teens unemployed, that’s a rather size “target population” for the Dems to get on the permanent dole.


17 posted on 09/14/2010 2:29:07 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Myrddin
“The skilled scammers get on disability with BS like “authority aversion”. The rest of us pay for it. It rubs me the wrong way to see of 400+ lb “human” ooze out of a car in a handicapped parking place, then wallow into an “all you can eat” establishment. Where is the personal responsibility?”

I was going to the store yesterday and a car with a handicap tag zooms into a handicapped spot and the sole occupant jumps out and literally runs into the store almost knocking me down in the process!

What the heck is up with that?

18 posted on 09/14/2010 2:33:02 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: goldendays

when it became a “disability” to be fat/lazy, it became welfare, even if it comes from social security... I see people everyday with handicapped car signs because they are downright Fat,Fat, Fat and can’t walk far because of it.


19 posted on 09/14/2010 2:34:01 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: RockinRight

It’s all about general laziness/desire.

Unless someone has just a terrible disability where they are literally bedridden, even folks who are ‘disabled’ can find SOMETHING to do, if they REALLY want to. It’s all about desire.

On the other hand, you have your lazy 20/30 somethings(as you mentioned) that don’t WANT to work. They WANT to be disabled, and that’s what they will be, come hell or high water. SS Disability is the ticket to ‘freedom’ in their worthless minds. Then they line up the rest of the government handouts. I’m SURE many of them also do a bit of work for cash under the table in order to buy drugs and or playing around/party money.

All of it enabled by politicians who take advantage of the fact that a large number of their constituents can vote themselves access to our Treasury, and by extension, OUR wallets.

I seriously believe that if people don’t pay federal taxes, they shouldn’t be allowed to vote in federal elections! It would take a Constitutional amendment for such a thing to come to pass, and any politician ballsy enough to make such a suggestion would be demonized and practically run off the planet.


20 posted on 09/14/2010 2:40:04 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: BenKenobi

I have MS and I probably couldn’t work a job outside my home, well, I could but working from home is much easier due to mobility issues. So I work a 40 hour week, but from the comfort of my home office. I tell my employer I’m their most reliable employee, LOL, because I never take a sick day. Since I’m at home, even if I feel bad, I can just grab my laptop and sit in my recliner while doing my work.


21 posted on 09/14/2010 2:41:05 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: yarddog

I think you are wrong. Ask any FP how many people we see on disability is really disabled. I could tell horror stories. My whole group does not lift one finger to “help” people get disability. How is your back feeling today???


22 posted on 09/14/2010 2:43:47 PM PDT by therut
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To: yarddog

I worked for an attorney who did disability. It isn’t as easy as some people think. Also, my husband is on disability now because of a horrible head-on collision where cops were chasing a guy and the guy hit my husband head-on doing about 85 mph. He’s in a wheelchair though he can use a walker on a limited basis. He is in constant, severe pain and always will be. He was denied the first time but approved the second. I hope those who think everyone is “gaming the system” never find themselves in the situation of needing disability.


23 posted on 09/14/2010 2:44:14 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: RockinRight
I believe the law states that as long as you’re medically unable to do your chosen profession, you’re “disabled.”

Not quite.

If you have worked long enough in a job to qualify for Social Security Benefits and if you have a medical condition that meets Social Security's definition of disability, it must first be determined that you are unable to do the type of work done previously.

If you cannot do the work you did in the past, the SSA determines if you are able to adjust to other work, considering your medical conditions, age, education, past work experience and any transferable skills you may have.

If you cannot adjust to other work, then your claim will be approved.
24 posted on 09/14/2010 2:45:44 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: RockinRight

If you paid into the SS system and become disabled then you can get SSD (Social Security Disability) and your children can get a benefit check too. It’s hard to get SSD and most are turned down the first time. It takes months and sometimes over a year to have an appeal heard. If the benefit is approved then they can get a lump sum amount in addition to their monthly benefit check. If a person never paid into the system (i.e. never worked) they can apply for SSI (Social Security Insurance). The benefit is about $670 per month and the children of the beneficiary are not entitled to receive a check. SSI is handed out like Mardi Gras beads. Just my observation in my line of work.


25 posted on 09/14/2010 2:47:22 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("In technical terminology, he's a loon")
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To: dawn53

I’m glad you have accommodating employers.


26 posted on 09/14/2010 2:50:28 PM PDT by BenKenobi (“this country will be less conservative with Castle voting 55% with the GOP")
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To: KoRn
They WANT to be disabled, and that’s what they will be, come hell or high water

Give me a break.

... because what you are essentially saying is that I was perhaps praying to the Lord above to be struck with a progressive form of Multiple Sclerosis in my 20's which would prevent my from continuing to work full time after nine years before I was declared disabled.

You are sadly uneducated on this subject.
27 posted on 09/14/2010 2:53:43 PM PDT by Sweet_Sunflower29
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To: dawn53

It CAN be quite difficult to have an employer work with you as far as telecommuting, so thankfully yours does!

You prove my point, however. I have clients who have MS, RA, spinal injuries, amputations, etc...and except for the most severe cases (usually ones that don’t ever actually come in the bank because they’re in such bad shape) they do work of SOME type, and often make more money than disability would pay them anyway.

It’s the slews of youngish people (generally who would fit in well on the website peopleofwalmart.com) with no identifiable illness that I question.


28 posted on 09/14/2010 2:56:41 PM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: toomanygrasshoppers

OK - it’s SSI that most of the people I refer to are on.


29 posted on 09/14/2010 2:59:23 PM PDT by RockinRight (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: yarddog

Many moons ago I had just graduated college and worked as an SSI claims rep for a year. Talk about disheartening and disgusting. Perfectly healthy people filing for disability 18 yrs. coming in and saying, “my back hurts” or “I got bad nerves”...

If I could disqualify them on any income or any other technicality besides their medical condition I would. Once the claim went to the Dept. of Determinations in our state it was out of our hands.

And if a boyfriend/husband got it you could bet the house payment the girlfriend/wife would be in there within six months with the same aliments, just like clockwork.

Some twenty years ago the district I worked in distributed nearly $7 million dollars each 1st of the month, that was five counties. The district manager and region managers at the time decided that we were not getting enough people in the office filing for benefits so they began an advertising campaign which just floored me. I gave notice and decided I was going back to graduate school, I wasn’t doing this for the rest of my life.

The current county I like in according to the last census has approx. 30,000 people, of which 10,000 are on some form of disability, a third of the county disabled! Unreal...


30 posted on 09/14/2010 2:59:53 PM PDT by sarge83
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To: KoRn
It’s all about general laziness/desire.

If you think that I, who haven't been able to hold down a job in 20 years while trying to work - simply because of desire or laziness you are sadly mistaken.

Especially since for the first 15 years of my disability I didn't even have Social Security. I only got it relatively recently due to a worsening of my condition and I only accept it because it is insurance that I paid for and not a hand out.

Human health is a very, very complicated thing my FRiend. You may wish to re-examine your comments before you make such broad, ignorant and entirely insulting statements.

31 posted on 09/14/2010 3:00:47 PM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: Gabrial
I was going to the store yesterday and a car with a handicap tag zooms into a handicapped spot and the sole occupant jumps out and literally runs into the store almost knocking me down in the process!

A scam artist or someone who has "borrowed" a vehicle with handicapped plates/placards to take advantage of the parking. When I see that kind of behavior, my assumption is the handicap is mental, not physical.

32 posted on 09/14/2010 3:15:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Chickensoup

The new “white woman’s welfare” is to claim a child is “within the autism spectrum”; not real autism, mind you, but “within the autism spectrum”. I’ve seen children “within the autism spectrum”, and 2 things immediately came to mind: they were either 1) only children, and/or 2) never spanked. There was absolutely nothing wrong with these children, but it was a way for their (white) parents to collect some kind of social security benefit for them and for their school district to collect even more because of a “special needs” child. Shameful...


33 posted on 09/14/2010 3:45:38 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Myrddin; Gabrial

I know someone missing a hand who gets that tag; while he walks fine, when you think about it, if he has to carry anything to/from his car, it could be difficult.


34 posted on 09/14/2010 3:47:01 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: meanie monster
I know someone right now who gets disability and even though he does have some health issues it doesn’t stop him from being a crack head and that is where his money goes.

Sounds like my dyed-in-the-wool liberal BIL, whose income is down because of health issues (and his habits), but lies about and hides his ample assets. He looks down on me because of my politics!

35 posted on 09/14/2010 3:53:11 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: ilovesarah2012
I hope those who think everyone is “gaming the system” never find themselves in the situation of needing disability.

Not everyone games the system, but enough do to create a lot of ill will towards it. I know a real dead beat, myself. What I don't know is whether he's 1 in 100, 1 in 10, or 1 in 2. My sincere best wishes for your husbands comfort and improvement.

36 posted on 09/14/2010 3:57:15 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: dawn53

I also have MS, but continue to work. Relapsing remitting, so I have good periods and have maintained a work history, been stable for ten years- with never a thought of going the disability route unless it becomes absolutely necessary. Heck, I even get up and give a seat on the subway to the elderly or those in need.

With the confirmed MS diagnosis ticket, it would be easy, (actually maybe a lot of work and doctors and lawyers) to cash in to the disability gravy train, but working is a source of pride, and I plan to go on as long as possible, just hope the source doesn’t run dry if I really need it one day.


37 posted on 09/14/2010 4:03:26 PM PDT by buckcountygardener
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To: goldendays

bump


38 posted on 09/14/2010 4:11:45 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2010/09/the_power_of_images_turned_aga.html)
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To: goldendays

What is the racial disbursement of SSDI receivers?


39 posted on 09/14/2010 4:20:22 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: therut
"how many people we see on disability is really disabled. I could tell horror stories."

Sadly, those TRULY having a REAL problem deserve the support.

However, why is it that nearly ALL of us know at least one individual gaming the system (if not more), and there is so much beuracracy over-seeing the system (i.e., government jobs/SEIU members) who don't give a damn when it comes to taxpayer money being re-distributed?

I appreciate the few here who have SERIOUS problems and deserve the benefits, but there are so many gaming the system who are TOTALLY dependent on others for their "livelihood" for life (and they have OTHER family members pulling the same scam).

The system of handouts is TOTALLY out of control, as is the employment of worthless slugs doing nothing but recieving income from the taxpayer.

40 posted on 09/14/2010 4:29:12 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1

Hey, great post, just imagine how it feels to be a tax payer working with MS to support those gaming the system, and I have run into a few, but I have worked hard, advanced in my field and that is a source of satisfaction that I would not give up until absolutely necessary.


41 posted on 09/14/2010 4:42:35 PM PDT by buckcountygardener
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To: RockinRight

“What’s funny is the TRULY disabled seem to still work a job, somewhere, unless they’re over 60 or so and mostly retired anyway”

Mainly since they have the God given grace to understand that their condition is a condition, not a lifestyle. I’m on it right now and while I have issues, I’m networking and plan on getting a solid education. Not forever for me.


42 posted on 09/14/2010 4:45:16 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: goldendays

All you need is a shyster lawyer who knows a quack and presto! Disability cash for life. The liberal shysters in MI advertise the scam on billboards.


43 posted on 09/14/2010 5:01:04 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: buckcountygardener
Youda Man !

There's just TOO MANY who've developed into system-dependent, and the Dem's know they can COUNT on their votes, as long as the freebies keep comin' from "those rich bastards don't need all that money"....

44 posted on 09/14/2010 5:01:58 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: goldendays

I recently interviewed a woman 24 years old who has six kids (one set of twins).

She has left the Employed? and Employer? questions on the info sheet blank so I asked if she had a job.

“Yep, she replied, “My job is to get all my kids on disability. My Mama did that for me and now I want to do it for my kids. I gotta figure out a way to get the lawyer’s money and we’ll be all set.”

As I looked through her paper work, I noticed she gets a disability check of $600 something a month. Her youngest child was also on disability getting $400 something a month.

I was pissed off at the system for the rest of the day.

Another fav of mine is to ask an interviewee if they have a job and have them spit at me, “I get a government check!”


45 posted on 09/14/2010 5:05:42 PM PDT by upchuck (If we let the federal gvmnt live beyond its means, we will soon have to live below ours. ~Joe Miller)
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To: KoRn

I stood in grocery line tonight and the gal checking out said to the other lady standing there....”I’m moving up from public housing to section 8 housing”..”I’ve had 12 years in public housing and had enough of that”.

So it seems there are levels of Government housing they aspire to. Humm-mmm’


46 posted on 09/14/2010 5:06:22 PM PDT by caww
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I worked for an attorney who did disability. It isn’t as easy as some people think. Also, my husband is on disability now because of a horrible head-on collision where cops were chasing a guy and the guy hit my husband head-on doing about 85 mph. He’s in a wheelchair though he can use a walker on a limited basis. He is in constant, severe pain and always will be. He was denied the first time but approved the second. I hope those who think everyone is “gaming the system” never find themselves in the situation of needing disability.”

You should be outraged about the large numbers who game and cheat the system. SS disability was never intended for lazy individuals with marginal issues. It was intended for individuals like your husband. My older sister has Parkinson’s disease with devasting impact on her health. I believe that she was denied disability first also.

I believe a fundamental problem with SS disability is that disability payments become permanent without any time limits or continuing requirements to demonstrate handicap. The law should be changed to require evidence to continue disability payments. In addition, individuals should not be able to shop for friendly doctors. The government should have its own list of preferred physicians to screen fraudulent cases.


47 posted on 09/14/2010 5:08:45 PM PDT by businessprofessor
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To: KoRn
even folks who are ‘disabled’ can find SOMETHING to do, if they REALLY want to.

I have neighbors in their late forties who are both on disability AND working jobs under the table. Sickens me when they roll in every two years with a new car and truck. They oftentimes are handwashing their vehicles..and mowing thier lawn without a problem...so go figure! Makes me soooo mad!

48 posted on 09/14/2010 5:10:56 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Public housing is govt owned buildings. Typically dreadful environment.

Section 8 is like food stamps, the govt (aka your taxes) gives a voucher that the tenant uses to pay the building or home owner. Quality varies depending on location, but nearly always better than public housing.

The great society is wonderful, isn’t it?


49 posted on 09/14/2010 5:11:26 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: yarddog

Social Security disability is one of the hardest to qualify for of any. I think something like 90 percent are turned down initially and not all that many qualify eventually.

I agree that most people are turned down initially. Now most people get attorneys and by third or fourth try they are in. One gets paid back to the initial application, so there is a big chunck that is paid out. The lawyer gets a big piece of it.


50 posted on 09/14/2010 6:35:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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