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Fallout after risque cheer controversy (Cheerleader fired)
wxyz ^ | September 15, 2010 | Cheryl Chodun

Posted on 09/15/2010 7:18:30 AM PDT by tlb

Madison Heights, Mich. (WXYZ) - Jennifer Tesch's six-year-old daughter has been removed from the Madison Heights Wolverine flag football cheer team.

The Madison Heights mom contacted Action News last month because she was upset about the words to one of her daughter's cheerleading chants.

The cheer she objects to says "our backs ache, our skirts are too tight, we shake our booties from left to right."

League members were outraged, saying it cast a bad light on the league and she should have handled it internally.

The team voted to keep the cheer and voted unanimously to remove the child from the team. The family will get a full refund and they can come back next year on probation if they want.

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Once a star "our backs ache, our skirts are too tight, we shake our booties from left to right."

A six year old social outcast now.

1 posted on 09/15/2010 7:18:34 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

The continued sexualization of babies.


2 posted on 09/15/2010 7:19:50 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: tlb
What a stupid cheer. It's like they tried really hard to find a cheer that contained "booty" and ended up with a senseless, unpoetic yelp which has no redeeming qualities at all (except that it contains the word "booty").

Morons.

3 posted on 09/15/2010 7:21:11 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: tlb

Maybe mom should have tried to handle it internally first before going to the press, but that cheer should have never seen the light of day in the first place.
Personally I disagree with the whole idea of six-year-olds being cheerleaders at all, but maybe that’s just me....


4 posted on 09/15/2010 7:21:50 AM PDT by Siouxz
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To: Siouxz

It’s not just you.


5 posted on 09/15/2010 7:23:59 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: tlb
The team voted to keep the cheer and voted unanimously to remove the child from the team.

No, no no!!! ... Everyone has to everything I want ... me, me, me, me, me!!! I'm important!! Much more imporant than you!! And you all have to do what I want!!! (stomp feet, and threaten to hold breath).

< /sarcasm on my part; reality on the parent's part>

If you don't like what the group does, then don't join the group. Pretty simple stuff, huh?

6 posted on 09/15/2010 7:26:26 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: tlb
i like teenage cheerleaders...

someone should smack momma about the head and explain to her that her daughter needs a childhood.

that is what daddy was for. today... who can say with any certainty.

this culture is so screwed.

7 posted on 09/15/2010 7:28:25 AM PDT by mmercier (the shuffle of angels feet)
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To: Hodar

Don’t you have to sometimes just stand up for what is right?


8 posted on 09/15/2010 7:29:05 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: tlb
I know it's early, but let me get this right.....

The cheer upset some poor misguided Mom, who blows a gasket. Then the league votes votes to keep this offending cheer and fire the child who came up with it???

I gotta me missing something here.
9 posted on 09/15/2010 7:29:49 AM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: tlb

A 6 year old cheerleader?????????


10 posted on 09/15/2010 7:31:12 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: mmercier
someone should smack momma about the head and explain to her that her daughter needs a childhood.

that is what daddy was for.

Hopefully you did not mean to say that daddies are for smacking mommas about the head.

11 posted on 09/15/2010 7:32:40 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: mmercier

A six yr old cheerleader?
Hmmm.. that must be what the signs around the neighborhood are for - “flag football and cheerleading”.

No way... sorry. If I were to explain the program to my six year old, SHE’D reject it based on the values she’s already learned.


12 posted on 09/15/2010 7:32:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Nea Wood

Daddy needs to step up and protect his family and his daughter from the perversity of this world.


13 posted on 09/15/2010 7:33:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tlb
This is a standard "canned" cheer not unique to this particular league. They had it (or something very similar) in our kids' football league and some teams used it and some didn't. Around here, the coaches are given a book of cheers provided by the league. This cheer is in it as well as about 100 others. It's then up to the coach to pick the ones they want to use or to come up with their own.

I'll bet this cheer is used in hundreds of pee-wee football leagues around the country.

Here's another good one that promotes the "I'm a dumb blonde" mantra (imagine the pride you feel as your 8 year old recites):

Like yeah, for sure, I just got a manicure
The sun, I swear, it's bleaching out my hair
Like 24, Like 34, I don't even know the score
Go-Go, Fight-Fight, Gee I hope I look all right!


Never understood why people like kids' cheerleading so much.
14 posted on 09/15/2010 7:33:55 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: tlb

“Two bits, four bits, six bits, a dollar..

If you’ve done it with one of us.. stand up and holler!”


15 posted on 09/15/2010 7:33:59 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: tlb

My little girl is 37 years old now...but I would never have allowed her to be a cheerleader when she was six.


16 posted on 09/15/2010 7:34:39 AM PDT by ontap
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To: glaseatr

You didn’t get it right!!


17 posted on 09/15/2010 7:35:40 AM PDT by ontap
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To: tlb

Sorry, didn’t see this was a six year old.


18 posted on 09/15/2010 7:35:47 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: tlb

Good Lord - 6 year-olds doing cheers like this?? What the hell is wrong with these people?


19 posted on 09/15/2010 7:36:09 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: Hodar

so you accept the concept of six year old cheerleaders.?

organization of such a thing is kind of perversion.

maybe it is just me.

i suck.


20 posted on 09/15/2010 7:36:12 AM PDT by mmercier (the old man's drunker than a barrel full of monkeys)
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To: tlb
The team voted to keep the cheer and voted unanimously to remove the child from the team.

That doesn't make a lick of sense.

21 posted on 09/15/2010 7:37:37 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Don’t you have to sometimes just stand up for what is right?

Sure, stand up for what you believe. Make your case, and if you cannot convince the group of their error - leave peaacefully and gratefully.

But you DO NOT have the right to put a gun to my head and make me obey your decision. That is essentially what this parent is attempting to do. She is trying to force the group to abide by her decision.

When a minority rules a majority - we no longer have freedom, we have a dictatorship.

22 posted on 09/15/2010 7:38:02 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: ilovesarah2012
Don’t you have to sometimes just stand up for what is right?

Sure, stand up for what you believe. Make your case, and if you cannot convince the group of their error - leave peaacefully and gratefully.

But you DO NOT have the right to put a gun to my head and make me obey your decision. That is essentially what this parent is attempting to do. She is trying to force the group to abide by her decision.

When a minority rules a majority - we no longer have freedom, we have a dictatorship.

23 posted on 09/15/2010 7:38:04 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
This is a team of 6 year olds “cheering” about shaking their “booties”. Any parent that wouldn't pull their child from the program and complain loudly has rocks in their heads.
24 posted on 09/15/2010 7:39:03 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: NonValueAdded

Sure, it makes perfect sense. We have 3-3,000 people in agreement, we have one who refuses to join in on the team. Boot the rebel out and the team moves forward.

No ONE is more important than the team. Remember the old coach’s saying “There is no ME in TEAM”.


25 posted on 09/15/2010 7:39:59 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

We’re talking about trying to make six year old little girls sexual. You’re okay with that???


26 posted on 09/15/2010 7:40:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012 (Proud Infidel)
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To: tlb

That isn’t a new cheer. I remember it from my junior high days, except they said “bodies” instead of “booties.” I do have a problem with the idea of 6 year old cheerleaders though.


27 posted on 09/15/2010 7:41:29 AM PDT by RoseyT
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To: ilovesarah2012

If one is OK with allowing them to shake their booties at six one should not be surprised at what they are doing with it at sixteen!!


28 posted on 09/15/2010 7:42:09 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Durus

I agree, this team is totally ‘out there’.

But, the team is well within their rights to be as ‘out there’ as they want to be. As long as they are not violating any laws, they can scream profanities and gyrate like little strippers if they want to.

Majority rule - or do we allow a minority to declare the laws if we like the minoritie’s stance; and call it a ‘Dictatorship’ if we don’t?


29 posted on 09/15/2010 7:42:21 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: tlb

I do that one as a marching chant with my 5 yr old son. He thinks it’s hilarious. Of course I have a sense of humor.


30 posted on 09/15/2010 7:45:06 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Hodar

Maybe it’s just me but I really don’t look at a group of cheerleaders as a team!!!


31 posted on 09/15/2010 7:46:19 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Hodar
But, the team is well within their rights to be as ‘out there’ as they want to be.

Sure, and Hamas-linked Islamists have a right to build a mosque near Ground Zero.

Doesn't mean it's a good idea or that people shouldn't speak out against it.

32 posted on 09/15/2010 7:46:52 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: ilovesarah2012

6 yr old Cheerleaders aren’t sexual?

Seems a bit hypocritial to have 6yr old Cheerleaders, and since the word ‘Booty’ is in there - it’s suddenly ‘sexual’? The hip-shaking and tops in their uniform are modest?

You seem to think that a minority dictatorship is the way to go - as long as you like their stance. But, I can promise you that you woult howl if the roles were reversed. If one parent wanted the girls to wear G-strings - and wanted to force the team to do this - you would protest.

I’m consistent. No one individual gets to demand that eveyrone else must abide by their individual moral code. Period. If you don’t like the crowd decision; chose a different crowd.

Or, do we have a single Muslim parent declare that everyone must wear a Burka and cheer ‘Allah Ackbar’?


33 posted on 09/15/2010 7:46:58 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Crichton

exactly.

Is this parent correct in complaining? I’d say that the answer probably is ‘yeah’. Not having seen the uniforms the 6yr olds are wearing, or hearing the cheer - I can’t say. But, then again I have a problem sexualizing 6 yr olds by forming a Cheerleading team at that age.

My stance is simple - no one person gets to dictate what everyone else wants to do. If you don’t like what the group does - find another group.


34 posted on 09/15/2010 7:49:29 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Nea Wood
my words are carefully chosen, every one has specific context and meaning.

daddy is there to promulgate the value that permits civilization.

i know this is wrong in the present reality. those who have a mommy but need a daddy outnumber pedophiles, but not by much.

many unknowingly feed the beast that we now call civilization.

determine for yourself where the line is.

35 posted on 09/15/2010 7:51:46 AM PDT by mmercier (neverneverland)
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To: Hodar

Are you really equating forcing a religious standard on girls to making six year old cheerleaders appear sexual? I don’t follow your logic.

My church (Southern Baptist) had kids’ basketball teams (Upward) and cheerleaders. There were a lot of kids involved and the cheers were not sexual in any way. Many little girls love cheerleading and I don’t see anything wrong with it unless they are trying to mimic pro sports cheerleaders.


36 posted on 09/15/2010 7:53:13 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tlb
WTF? Shades of "Little Miss Sunshine."

CC

37 posted on 09/15/2010 8:01:28 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (ostende mihi pecuniam!)
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To: Republic of Texas

Yeah less of that around then there used to be.


38 posted on 09/15/2010 8:01:38 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Hodar

But there’s no U in TEAM either. You’re fired!


39 posted on 09/15/2010 8:05:28 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: tlb

nice to see the Dinosaur Media in Detroit focused like a laser on the things that really matter


40 posted on 09/15/2010 8:09:41 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ilovesarah2012

Religious standards all depend upon the crowd, right? Your crowd of fellow Baptists would all likely (and rightly) agree that this is in appropriate. No problem - the crowd agrees.

However, this particular group did not agree - and the parent opted to FORCE them to comply with her wishes. She was shown the door, and rightly so.

No ONE PERSON has the right to demand, control and force her opinion, views or religion on any GROUP. This rule is hard and fast; I don’t care if you are a single Baptist, or the single Muslim. You don’t have the right to coerce the group to do what you want - period.

We are talking about 6 yr olds. This is Kindergarten to 1st grade girls.

Now, if you had girls as cheerleaders in your church, that’s fine and good. But, were these girls fat and ugly? Probably not. Were they young, fit and attractive? Probably so. Do the uniforms they wear enhance their ‘assets’?

If you watch High School Cheerleader competitions, and College Cheerleader competition - and you don’t think that these girls are using sex to sell - you are horribly mistaken. It’s NOT just Pro Sports cheerleaders - those are the role models that all the cheerleaders are mimicking.

Why do you think guys want to see young attractive girls jump up and down, bend over, and spread their legs? As a straight male, I can promise you that it is NOT because men are impressed by their athletic prowess.


41 posted on 09/15/2010 8:10:10 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
If the majority can enforce any rules it desires on the minority then it's also tyranny. The majority or minority can only pass laws that are withing the delegated powers of government.

This doesn't have anything to do with government imposing any laws on the majority or minority. It's about parents complaining about the lyrics of a cheer. No one called the cops, there are no lawsuits filed. The lyrics are disgusting, and they should be removed but the team decided not too. They have to live with being disgusting pervs that desire to sexualize their children and the parents that complained have their child out of it and have called attention to the lyrics. What is your complaint?

42 posted on 09/15/2010 8:10:18 AM PDT by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: tlb
Should have been:

1) Pull my child from the cheerleading program

2) Go to media to report this horrific cheer that 6 year olds are being made to chant.

Being a parent requires hard choices.

43 posted on 09/15/2010 8:13:36 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Papa of two new Army Brats! Congrats to my Soldier son and his wife.)
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To: Hodar

Back when I was in school, many years ago, our cheerleaders dressed modestly and just did regular cheers - the old-fashioned “go team”, etc. Now cheerleading is a very competitive sport and scholarships are given.

And some of our little cheerleaders were indeed “chubby”. They were all treated equally and no one was turned away from either the basketball team or cheer team. It was about kids having fun.

By your way of thinking, one person could never change anything and group-think would rule. I will agree to disagree with you.


44 posted on 09/15/2010 8:15:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: tlb

So who taught that cheer to a six year old?


45 posted on 09/15/2010 8:18:12 AM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: tlb

Six-year old cheerleaders I don’t have a problem with. Give them sweaters or jumpers with T-shirts on underneath and skirts of a decent length and let them do some simple dancing and tumbling routines and cheer “Go, team, go!” or some simple rhymes. But tight costumes, makeup, and sexual innuendo is incredibly inappropriate.

The TEAM voted? Since when do six-year-olds make decisions on matters like this? Although, given that the adults permitted this cheer in the first place, perhaps it’s not unreasonable to hope that a bunch of six-year-olds might have better judgement.

Yeah, Mom should have gone to the team first. I’ll ding her for that. Although, judging from their decision regarding keeping the cheer and throwing her daughter off the team for something her Mom did I doubt she’d have gotten a reasonable reaction from them. I think that her overall opinion of that cheer was correct.


46 posted on 09/15/2010 8:24:39 AM PDT by RonF
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To: ilovesarah2012
League members were outraged, saying it cast a bad light on the league and she should have handled it internally.

A bad light? The light of day is more like it. What's bad was the cheer, not exposing it.

47 posted on 09/15/2010 8:25:42 AM PDT by RonF
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To: Durus

I don’t understand the single parents motive for taking this non-story into the press. One parent felt that the word ‘bootie’ was offensive. This is NOT a new cheer; it’s been around for at least 20 years. The only word that’s changed that I’m aware of is the word ‘body’ with ‘bootie’.

Now, where I come from, ‘bootie’ is not offensive. At our home, we use the word ‘bum’. You have to have some name for your backside, it’s preferable to a$$.

So, one parent disagreed and pushed the matter. The Team responded by tossing the kid out and the team moved forward. Fine, that’s the way the team works - Democracy in action.

What I’m opposed is the arrogance of one parent; attempting to force a group to their wishes. I won’t tolerate a Muslim from forcing the group to say a particular cheer; by the same token, I object to this parent.

More importantly, what are the girls wearing and what are they doing? Are they wearing bikini’s or modest cheerleading suits? We don’t know. Are the cheers done in a sexually suggestive manner? We don’t know.

What do we know? A parent didn’t like the word ‘bootie’ and made a big stink about it. Toss them out.

What I do find distrurbing about this; is that Kindergarten/1st grade girls are being conditioned to be sexual objects. Face it, Cheerleaders are sex objects - that’s why they are there, that’s why they wear the uniforms they wear in High School, College and Pro. That’s why they jump and spread their legs.

They serve no other purpose.


48 posted on 09/15/2010 8:28:22 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: tlb
The team voted to keep the cheer and voted unanimously to remove the child from the team.

I wonder how many pedophiles will be in attendance at the games as a result of this decision.

49 posted on 09/15/2010 8:35:10 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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To: ilovesarah2012
By your way of thinking, one person could never change anything and group-think would rule.

You change a group by using your ability to persuade. You persuade by asking questions and critical analysis. You do not persuade by demanding and coercing. Group think does, and should rule - as long as the rights of the individual are not denied. There is 'no right' to be on a cheerleading team.

Consider that the same issue occurred, and that the disenting parent insisted that the Cheerleaders wear Sharia approved uniforms or Sharia approved cheers. Would you tolerate that? Why not? Probably becasue you would have one person demanding that you submit to their will. Generally, the Team will not be Muslim, and the team is under no obligation to conform to meet the demands of a single person.

50 posted on 09/15/2010 8:35:14 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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