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Driver Thanks Officer Who Gave Him Ticket
WPBF West Palm Beach ^ | September 15, 2010

Posted on 09/16/2010 12:11:43 AM PDT by UncleHambone

PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- When Stephen Carroll got a ticket in June for not wearing his seat belt, he was not pleased. He started buckling up -- not because he was a believer, but because he didn't want another $130 citation.

Then, three weeks later, something life-altering happened.

"Forty years of driving, (I've) never been in a car accident," Carroll said.

But less than a mile from his home, his van was plowed into by a driver who ran a stop sign. The van completely overturned and then landed on its wheels.

Carroll knows his seat belt made all the difference.

"I had my seat belt on, and I can't imagine what would've happened to me if I didn't have my seat belt," Carroll said.

The father of two reached out to the Port St. Lucie police officer who wrote the ticket. Sgt. Kacey Donnell said he initially thought Carroll was calling to complain.

"I've gotten choice gestures and quite a few words and expletives -- even had people, you know, tell me (they) hope I get shot," Donnell said.

Instead, he was stunned to receive a thank you.

"I was pleasantly surprised," Donnell said. "In 13 years of law enforcement, I've never had anybody contact me back to thank me for issuing them a citation."

Carroll admits he only wore his seat belt because of the ticket, but now he's thankful that he did.

"If I did not get a ticket, I would not have been wearing a seat belt that day," Carroll said. "That's a conclusion I can be certain of."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: safety; seatbelt
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1 posted on 09/16/2010 12:11:45 AM PDT by UncleHambone
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To: UncleHambone

broken clock story. While I absolutely believe the man’s story, it serves as propaganda for this entire seat-belt-as-a-ticketable-offense thing. What about the folks who suffer gut/abdomen injuries/fatalities in wrecks they otherwise might expect little injury? Will we be seeing stories about how someone buckled up due to a ticket, etc?


2 posted on 09/16/2010 12:14:57 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: UncleHambone

THREAD BUMP.

Thanks for posting this Uncle Hambone.


3 posted on 09/16/2010 12:20:33 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: UncleHambone

Port St. Lucie-doesn’t Rush live there?


4 posted on 09/16/2010 12:24:40 AM PDT by tanuki (Obamacare, Cap and Tax, Amnesty, in that order....)
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To: WoofDog123
What about the folks who suffer gut/abdomen injuries/fatalities in wrecks they otherwise might expect little injury?

Yep, I broke a rib on the seatbelt when a car hit me. But I still think it's a good idea to wear them. A friend of mine rolled her car and broke a lot of bones-- but thankfully, she came to, hanging upside down in her seatbelt, or she might have broken her neck or crushed her skull.

5 posted on 09/16/2010 12:27:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Albion Wilde

My seventeen year old got a ticket this summer for speeding.
He is a good kid and never causes us grief. I said a
prayer for the policeman who gave him a ticket. My son
paid the $ and I thought if it keeps him from getting in
an accident, it was well worth it. I’ve driven for
forty years without getting a ticket, but I know guys
like speed.


6 posted on 09/16/2010 12:40:08 AM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: UncleHambone
It's always a good idea to wear a seatbelt, unless a semi or large truck runs over the part of the car that you are strapped to. If my sister had been wearing a seatbelt, she wouldn't be alive now.

But my argument against the state forcing citizens to protect themselves is an overreach of power, IMHO, and opens the door for the banning of much personal behavior and hence impinges on individual rights.

7 posted on 09/16/2010 12:45:56 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: Cowgirl

“I’ve driven for
forty years without getting a ticket, but I know guys
like speed.”

But do you drive the speed limit on the freeway?


8 posted on 09/16/2010 12:48:20 AM PDT by DB
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To: DB; Cowgirl

But do you drive the speed limit on the freeway?>>>>>

She goes 55 in the leftmost lane


9 posted on 09/16/2010 12:50:58 AM PDT by dennisw (-He who will not economize will have to agonize----- Confucius)
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To: UncleHambone

I used to work for the Highway department. I got T-boned in my pickup by a Semi-truck on the interstate. I broke 7 ribs on my left side...and had a crushed pelvis on my right due to my seatbelt. However, If I wasn’t wearing that seatbelt, I’d have been killed.


10 posted on 09/16/2010 12:54:45 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: WoofDog123

I don’t believe the state should have the authority to issue seatbelt tickets.

But it is dumb not to wear one. Get ejected and the chances of surviving aren’t high. If you get injured due to the forces against the seatbelt, the injuries would likely be far worse from your body slamming into unforgiving parts of your car from those same forces - if you stay in it.


11 posted on 09/16/2010 12:58:50 AM PDT by DB
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To: UncleHambone

“Thank you, sir! May I have another?”


12 posted on 09/16/2010 1:04:46 AM PDT by kevao
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To: DB

Yes, but that still doesn’t make it right for the state to be able to prosecute you for not wearing one. It should be none of the state’s business if somebody wants to be dumb. In Texas motorcycle riders do not have to wear a helmet but people have to wear seatbelts in cars. Apparently bikers have better lobbyist than the general motoring public.


13 posted on 09/16/2010 1:09:09 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: WoofDog123
One wonders if some honestly believe Dale Earnhardt, Sr. would have survived his 2001 crash without safety harnesses?


14 posted on 09/16/2010 1:19:03 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: WoofDog123

I can remember when cars didn’t have seat belts.
I can remember when cars didn’t have head rests.
I can remember when cops didn’t have radar.

People weren’t so fearful in those days.


15 posted on 09/16/2010 1:20:26 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: donna

Yah, I can remember when the guys drove 100 mph cause
there wasn’t a car in sight. Even the highways were
dark back then.


16 posted on 09/16/2010 3:05:12 AM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Albion Wilde

In my 20 yrs of being a military cop, every wreck I responded to overseas where a person had a seatbelt on, survived....even one with nothing in front of her steering wheel except for a 500 yr old olive tree, engine block gone. Ones that didn’t have it on, not so much. Good enough for me..and my kids will loudly tell anyone that gets in that doesn’t strap in...”seatbelt”...lol. Maybe people can be “stupid” if they want, but when it affects my insurance or medical rates, or paying public benefits out to people that can’t work now because they’re too injured to support their family, I think it is my business. My thoughts on that subject...

If you don’t want to wear a seatbelt, please sign a statement saying you release any public assistance to your family in the event of your incapacitation...do us all a favor. Maybe a little harsh, but people need to take responsibility for their decisions, in my humble opinion.


17 posted on 09/16/2010 3:30:22 AM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: UncleHambone

I never wear a seat belt. I find that it wrinkles my shirts. Plus I have airbags. If I ever was in a rollover, I’d just brace my legs against the seat and hold the wheel tight so I don’t move.


18 posted on 09/16/2010 3:42:54 AM PDT by coaltrain
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To: sandboxshooter

Cheeseburgers affect health insurance rates. Are you in agreement with Moochele about the government regulating them too?


19 posted on 09/16/2010 3:46:53 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Jesus had twelve followers... and one of them turned out to be an FBI Agent.)
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To: UncleHambone

It’s just anecdotal, but I would probably have been either killed or paralyzed back in the 80s when I slid off a road from black ice, were it not for putting on my seat belt about a minute before that accident (AFTER I left the apartment - I didn’t even regularly wear it back then).

After going into the ditch and flipping a couple times, the car ended up back in the middle of the road on its passenger’s side, with me hanging from my seat belt. I LOVE seat belt bruises! Since then, I literally will not even back out of the garage without a seat belt on.


20 posted on 09/16/2010 3:55:31 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Blue Jays

As a racer, I hope your question is a sarcastic one. I can attest that his fatal injury was a result of his dislike of the safety equipment because it took away his edge of being able to “feel” the air in the side window. He has made comments to that effect.

The advent of the HANS device is undeniably the best life saving innovation since they started to put aircraft seat harnesses in racing cars. The best arguement for a harness is that it keeps you in a relative static position while the car and dynamic forces are going all over the place. This static position also keep the driver positioned to better control the steering, braking, vision and acceleration while everything around the him/her is wanting to fly in all sorts of directions.

After driving a racing car for a weekend of racing, I will get into my truck, put on the seat belt and I feel like I am going to fall out of the seat. But I do know even with that restraint system, I am far better able to effectively apply control moves when the unexpected and eventual event of an out of control moment arises because I am at the controls instead of being thrown around like a rag doll.


21 posted on 09/16/2010 4:01:14 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio - US Senate, West FL22nd, Scott/Carroll - FL Gov/LtGov, Miller-AK US Senate)
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To: UncleHambone

Put your seat belt on - The airbag will wipe you out if you aren’t wearing it.


22 posted on 09/16/2010 4:10:25 AM PDT by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: UncleHambone

Saved by the seatbelt here. Always wear one now without fail and everyone in the car has to as well. No negotiation.


23 posted on 09/16/2010 4:12:25 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus

Ping for story and comments


24 posted on 09/16/2010 4:19:48 AM PDT by AngieGal
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To: UncleHambone

I was saved by a seat belt when I was 21 years old. I made a dumb move and veered off the road trying to avoid 3 deer standing in the middle of the road. My convertible flipped and it was turned into an upside down sled. Windshield was smashed into the steering wheel. The convertible top was torn off and the top of the drivers seat was torn from being scraped in the dirt. My hair was dirty but I was not harmed. Not even a scratch. I was hanging in my seat upside down by my seat belt.


25 posted on 09/16/2010 4:22:26 AM PDT by Darth Gill
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To: sandboxshooter

Agreed!

I never cease to be amazed by those who are too ignorant and bullheaded to understand basic physics and why a seat belt will almost always be in your best interest.

But hey, let them not wear it and clean up the gene pool.


26 posted on 09/16/2010 4:25:58 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: TSgt

The issue is not the swearing of the seatbelt it is the infringement on rights by the government.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 4:44:14 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: All

I had a friend roll his car recently, and he wasn’t wearing a seat belt. He was immediately ejected from the car. The fireman on scene said had he been wearing his seat belt, he would most certainly have died. But we don’t hear these stories.


28 posted on 09/16/2010 4:45:48 AM PDT by excalibur1701
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To: UncleHambone

Indeed, if we follow that logic then we should STOP wearing our seatbelts when the next anecdotal story is published about a miraculous escape from death because the driver was NOT belted.


29 posted on 09/16/2010 4:57:56 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: sandboxshooter
If you don’t want to wear a seatbelt, please sign a statement saying you release any public assistance to your family in the event of your incapacitation...

I wish a written statement would help me. Unfortunately, If I get caught not wearing my shoulder-rig belt, I can get a ticket.

Back when I piloted my hot-rod '55 Chevy, I always wore my lap belt. When I flew with my dad as he did stunts in his piper cubs and pacers, I wore lap belts. When I flew in Boeing commercial jets at 500mph, I wore lap-belts.

Now, when I drive around town at 20-30 mph, the stupid state of KS wants me to strap in with a shoulder belt system, or they threaten to fine me.

I am defying them, as I have an implanted pacemaker/defibrillator that causes my upper left chest to quickly get rubbed raw if I strap on a shoulder belt, and I would probably have my implanted appliance destroyed or the leads ripped out of my heart if I ever had an accident with the belt right across the implant site. I would rather take my chances without the shoulder belt. If a lap belt was still an option, I would use it.

30 posted on 09/16/2010 5:10:39 AM PDT by tdscpa
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To: UncleHambone
I thanked the police officer who pulled me over two miles after I left my mother's house.

She was returning the next day from a trip and I stopped by her house to stock some perishable breakfast items for her so she didn't have to worry about getting out to the supermarket immediately upon her return. She had told the (small) town police department that she was going to be away but didn't include my license plate on her list of vehicles that might be at the house.

I was happy that the town police had included her house on their "close inspection" rounds.

31 posted on 09/16/2010 5:13:11 AM PDT by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: TheThinker
But my argument against the state forcing citizens to protect themselves is an overreach of power, IMHO, and opens the door for the banning of much personal behavior and hence impinges on individual rights.

An ER surgeon I know offered an interesting argument though that seatbelt/helmet laws help keep people out of the ER (and drain drain services there for free) due to an accident.

32 posted on 09/16/2010 5:20:11 AM PDT by chargers fan
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To: donna

People weren’t so fearful in those days.

Cars were built to take crashes better than the plastic hunks of junk of today. The bumpers of yesterday would total out the cars of today.


33 posted on 09/16/2010 5:21:41 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied pelicans died)
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To: Albion Wilde

I am actually one of the rare statistics that survived a wreck because I was not wearing a seatbelt and was thrown clear during an accident. But there was probably a bit of a guardian angel in that situation too.


34 posted on 09/16/2010 5:26:54 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: jospehm20

It’s the same in Wisconsin.


35 posted on 09/16/2010 5:30:05 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: excalibur1701

I lived through that type of accident. My vehicle hit an embankment before rolling. The engine came into the cab of the pickup. If I would have been in a seatbelt, the steering wheel would have crushed my chest, killing me. The engine would have taken my legs.

Instead, I actually walked away from the accident with “minor” injuries (literally walked away, I had to walk for help).


36 posted on 09/16/2010 5:31:13 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team# 36120), KW:Folding)
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To: coaltrain

You are going out the window. Then the car will roll over on you.


37 posted on 09/16/2010 5:35:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: coaltrain

Those airbags are going to break your fingers and wrists when they go off. Better to let go of the wheel just prior to impact . . .

This happened to a coworker of mine in a Volkswagen Jetta involved in a 30mph crash.


38 posted on 09/16/2010 5:37:26 AM PDT by BraveMan
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To: bikerman

When I worked EMS in high school, you could always tell the cars where the driver wasn’t wearing a belt by the bloody head-shaped bulge in the windshield. But cars were heavier then and could stand up to an accident better. Today, they just roll over. Much of the time, the driver gets about halfway out of the window before the roll.

Nasty.


39 posted on 09/16/2010 5:39:33 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: BraveMan

It’s called “airbag burn”.


40 posted on 09/16/2010 5:40:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: excalibur1701
The fireman on scene said had he been wearing his seat belt, he would most certainly have died. But we don’t hear these stories.

We don't hear about them much because they are a small minority. Most people survive a crash because they wore their seatbelt - that's a fact.


41 posted on 09/16/2010 5:44:48 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (YouTube My Space and I'll Google your Yahoo.)
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To: UncleHambone
What a sweet story. It is about graciousness and someone reaching out to the person he credits with saving his life.
42 posted on 09/16/2010 5:47:52 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: UncleHambone

Woopty f*ckin Doo!

I have a friend whose life was saved because he did not have a seat belt on.


43 posted on 09/16/2010 5:54:30 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: UncleHambone

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that seatbelts and motorcycle helmets are a good idea. This is the kind of guy who would learn bomb disposal by the trial and error method-sometimes you just have to use your brain.


44 posted on 09/16/2010 6:06:58 AM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: sandboxshooter

Just remember the late, air headed, dim witted Princess Di. Of the four people in her death car, only the young security guard in the right front seat, who used his seat belt, survived.


45 posted on 09/16/2010 6:45:14 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: UncleHambone
I have raced everything from karts (no belt), to outlaw karts (karts on steroids - 500cc two-cycle dirt bike engines, wings, roll-cages and 5-point harness), to open-wheeled sprint cars, and street cars on autocross tracks and drag strips. I'll not drive anywhere without a seat belt.

That being said, it's not the state's business.

Truly ridiculous story: Back in the early 90s, a buddy of mine had his VW bug run into in a parking lot. He wasn't in the car, he was in the store shopping. The first thing the insurance company asked was if he was wearing a seat belt. The only way to answer was "yes" or "no". He said no, they tried to raise his rates because of it.

46 posted on 09/16/2010 7:24:51 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: coaltrain
If I ever was in a rollover, I’d just brace my legs against the seat and hold the wheel tight so I don’t move.

Guessing sarcasm. If not, then I say "Good luck with that."

47 posted on 09/16/2010 7:28:21 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: WoofDog123
Studies have conclusively shown that wearing a seat belt increases your chances of survival and decreases serious injury when involved in a car crash.

If my friend had been wearing his seat belt, he would almost certainly have survived the wreck that claimed his life last week.

48 posted on 09/16/2010 7:29:00 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: IYAS9YAS
I remember the movie “Fearless” with Jeff Bridges.

Guy survives a plane crash. Another survivor is wracked with guilt because she was holding her baby during the crash and it was torn out of her arms. She lamented ‘if only I had held on tighter!’.

Jeff's character takes her in a car and gets her to hold a 20 lb sack. He tells he to be sure to “hold on tight, tight as you can” and then he slams the car 30 mph into a wall. The sack went flying!

I don't think people really have any concept of the magnitude of the forces involved and how quickly they are applied.

49 posted on 09/16/2010 7:32:38 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: jospehm20
"Apparently bikers have better lobbyist than the general motoring public."

Neurosurgeons can be a demanding group with deep pockets.

50 posted on 09/16/2010 7:32:43 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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