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Weiner, Waxman Set Gold Hearing
futureofcapitalism.com ^ | September 16, 2010 | Ira Stoll

Posted on 09/16/2010 2:41:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

Just as the government is trying to prevent people from investing in anything other than T-Bills by raising taxes on taxable interest and dividends to confiscatory levels, it's also trying to prevent you from parking your wealth in assets, like gold, that compete with the paper dollars issued by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury. A press release from Rep. Anthony Weiner, Democrat of New York, not yet (as of this instant) posted on Mr. Weiner's Web site, announces that a September 23 hearing of the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection (a subcommittee of Rep. Henry Waxman's Commerce Committee) will focus on "legislation that would regulate gold-selling companies, an industry who's [sic] relentless advertising is now staple of cable television."

From the press release: "Under Rep. Weiner's bill, companies like Goldline would be required to disclose the reasonable resale value of items being sold." That's great. Are Mr. Weiner and Chairman Bernanke also going to agree to print on every dollar the reasonable expectation that its value will be eroded by inflation?

Gold investors (or speculators) are already punished by the federal government by having their investment, even in a gold exchange-traded-fund, taxed at the higher rates that apply to collectibles rather than long term capital gains.

Not to mention the fact that Mr. Weiner's regulatory push seems as much aimed at conservative journalists as at the gold-dealers. The press release says, "Goldline employs several conservative pundits to act as shills for its' [sic] precious metal business, including Glenn Beck, Mike Huckabee, Laura Ingraham, and Fred Thompson. By drumming up public fears during financially uncertain times, conservative pundits are able to drive a false narrative. Glenn Beck for example has dedicated entire segments of his program to explaining why the U.S. money supply is destined for hyperinflation with Barack Obama as president."

Imagine the uproar if a Republican-majority Congress started investigating and having a regulatory crackdown on big advertisers in liberal outlets such as the New York Times. The First Amendment freedom-of-the-press crowd would be marching in the streets.

The whole situation is amazing. If Mr. Weiner really wants to calm fears about hyperinflation, the last way to do it is to have a government hearing cracking down on the people warning of it.

The press release reports that "invitations to the hearing have been sent to the representatives of Goldline International, the Federal Trade Commission, the Consumers Union and other potential witnesses, including former Goldline employees." Mr. Weiner might also consider calling John Paulson and George Soros, who have also reportedly been buying gold lately, though Mr. Soros was also quoted as calling it a bubble. But Mr. Paulson saw the housing bubble coming so he might be right about the inflation risks, and Mr. Soros is a big funder of left-wing causes, so neither of them would fit with the objective of the hearing.

Anyway, we are looking forward to the hearing, which should be quite a show.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: democratcongress; democrats; economy; gold; lping; waxman; weiner

1 posted on 09/16/2010 2:41:03 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

They’re specifically targeting Glenn Beck’s top advertisers now. It’s both fascistic and pathetic at the same time.


2 posted on 09/16/2010 2:43:54 PM PDT by jpl (It's "My Big Fat Deadly Greek Riot", coming soon to a bankrupt socialist state near you.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
There are many simple mistakes that had to be [sic]-ed. That's excusable in a quick blog or internet forum like this, but not in a Congressional press release. That makes it looks like they dashed this out without much review or planning - in other words they are panicking and biting at anything which moves like the trapped 'rats they are.
3 posted on 09/16/2010 2:46:01 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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To: jpl

Weiner and Waxman...Jewish fascists...oy.


4 posted on 09/16/2010 2:55:02 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Chew on This:

Weiner, Waxman Set Gold Teeth Hearing

Just as the government is trying to prevent people from investing in anything other than T-Bills by raising taxes on taxable interest and dividends to confiscatory levels, it's also trying to prevent you from parking your wealth in assets, like gold teeth, that compete with the paper dollars issued by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury.

A press release from Rep. Anthony Weiner, Democrat of New York, not yet (as of this instant) posted on Mr. Weiner's Web site, announces that a September 23 hearing of the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection (a subcommittee of Rep. Henry Waxman's Commerce Committee) will focus on "legislation that would regulate dentists implanting and filling gold teeth, an industry who's [sic] relentless advertising is now staple of cable television."

All airports and TSA will immediately institute a security procedure to inspect all passengers` mouths before boarding. All gold teeth will be summarily yanked and said passengers sent home to recover.

5 posted on 09/16/2010 2:58:07 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Jet Jaguar

Okay ... So let me get this straight. Folks like Glenn Beck have been recommending GOLD because it has intrinsic value and has never been worth “Zero. “ He even suggests buying historic gold so that the value is not based simply on the weight of gold. Why? So that the Government cannot take it away from you and make private ownership illegal as it was in the past. SO what does “Weinerman” do? . . . He fulfills Glenn’s fears and starts the process of the Government regulating GOLD.

In other words ... I’m going to fulfill your worst fears just to spite those mean ol nasty conservative pundits who act as shills for these gold exchanges . . . thereby proving them RIGHT!!!

Are these guys seriously listening to themselves??

/me shakes his head in wonder!


6 posted on 09/16/2010 3:16:08 PM PDT by gtwizard (Just the facts jack)
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To: PA Engineer; blam; TigerLikesRooster; Cheap_Hessian; CJinVA; Jet Jaguar; OneLoyalAmerican; ...
Goldbug ping

It might not sound cataclysmic by itself, but I think we've all come to realize that what little legislation this Congress is passing that isn't outright Socialism, contains seemingly harmless and sensible passages which are in fact nose under the tent and Trojan Horse preparations laying the groundwork for more corporatism and socialism.

And as Beck himself says, they'll come after him and Rush first, then they'll come for the rest of us.

The same article is posted on a different website with a different title here http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2590472/posts

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7 posted on 09/16/2010 3:25:35 PM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Jet Jaguar; jiggyboy
I think this is more about shutting down Glenn Beck than about regulating gold. Although they will do that too eventually

Various Marxist groups associated with the White House have been 'chipping away' at his sponsors for over a year now. They have had some success. They absolutely hate and fear Glenn Beck.

We must support Glenn at every opportunity.

Glenn Beck' Sponsors Attacked by Left, Pull Ads from Fox News Show

Liberal attack machine forces six firms to move ads to take punitive action against the network's third-most popular host.

8 posted on 09/16/2010 3:38:05 PM PDT by blam
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To: bamahead

The government is going after anything that makes us secure. They must be stopped.


9 posted on 09/16/2010 4:12:05 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Jet Jaguar

http://www.coachisright.com/obama%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cyes-we-can%e2%80%9d-could-easily-mean-%e2%80%9cyes-i-can-nationalize-your-gold-if-i-want-to%e2%80%9d/

Obama can try this stunt.


10 posted on 09/16/2010 4:24:31 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jpl

No they are going after the ability of Americans to own gold Beck is small potatoes. They want to confiscate gold force people to buy government vehicles so they can control you.


11 posted on 09/16/2010 5:19:43 PM PDT by Red Deception
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To: Clintonfatigued

It’s “wrong,” that people try to shelter their work products (earned wealth) from government, by investing in gold.

We’ll take your work products - hand it over.

If you try to keep it from expropriation via 1) Taxes or 2) the “inflation tax” we’ll still come get it from you you.

So much for the 13th Amendment, abolishing slavery (and the ‘forceful’ theft of labor time, and fruits of personal labor.) :(


12 posted on 09/16/2010 5:25:44 PM PDT by 4Liberty ( How do you spell "moral hazard"?: $ 19, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0, 0 0 0.)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Image and video hosting by TinyPic _____________________________________________________________ I PITY THE FOOL TRYIN TO TAKE AWAY MY GOLD!
13 posted on 09/16/2010 6:20:07 PM PDT by festusbanjo (The Tea Party is what the Republicans used to be, the Democrats are what the Soviets used to be.)
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To: festusbanjo

From my cold, dead fingers...


14 posted on 09/16/2010 6:22:36 PM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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To: jpl

As Glenn Beck once resoundingly touted on his show when all this first started going down with WeinerIdiot: (paraphrased) Please call me before a Congressional hearing, please call me....” =.=


15 posted on 09/16/2010 6:38:01 PM PDT by cranked
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Jet Jaguar.
Just as the government is trying to prevent people from investing in anything other than T-Bills by raising taxes on taxable interest and dividends to confiscatory levels, it's also trying to prevent you from parking your wealth in assets, like gold, that compete with the paper dollars issued by the Federal Reserve and the Treasury.

16 posted on 09/16/2010 6:41:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I up 30% on gold - thanks Glenn, Laura, Mark Levin, and all others.
I may have to thank Weener & Waxman for thenext move up that will be coming from this.


17 posted on 09/16/2010 7:18:47 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: jiggyboy
And as Beck himself says, they'll come after him and Rush first, then they'll come for the rest of us.

They'll take Rush first... other than that, Beck's right.

18 posted on 09/16/2010 9:14:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2589165/posts)
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To: GOPJ

Wiener-Waxman?

Hehehe, I’m sorry, but just the appearance of that, right there in the headline made me laugh my arse off.


19 posted on 09/16/2010 9:29:52 PM PDT by jamndad5 ("I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials.")
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To: Clintonfatigued; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; ...
Gold confiscation - it's happened before folks. Will we let it again?



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20 posted on 09/16/2010 9:46:11 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: jamndad5
Wiener-Waxman?

They're both master debaters.

21 posted on 09/16/2010 9:46:48 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: jamndad5
Wiener-Waxman?

Almost as good as Woody Johnson, apologizing for his Jets' locker-room conduct the other night.

22 posted on 09/16/2010 9:48:39 PM PDT by rfp1234
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To: PMAS
...the next move up that will be coming from this...

Could you enlarge on what you think this will be please?

23 posted on 09/16/2010 9:54:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: rfp1234
They're both master debaters.

Though definitely not cunning linguists.

24 posted on 09/16/2010 10:07:06 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: rfp1234

That was as hilarious as when (I think during Hillary’s presidential run) they sent BJ on an appearance with “Magic Johnson”!! (The attendees were disappointed when only one guy showed up)


25 posted on 09/16/2010 10:08:55 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: caww

They could drum up fear that the government will try to confiscate gold (not that I think that will happen) and they will also bring the fact the Beck and others are pushing gold because of coming inflation, gov. spending, etc.


26 posted on 09/16/2010 10:15:32 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: PMAS

Do you think this administration would dare to control the road gold is on....they have got their dirty hands on every other business and industry, whereever there’s revenue flowing in one form or another.


27 posted on 09/17/2010 12:26:55 AM PDT by caww
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To: PMAS

Child don't you realize if you marry that little goblin your name will be Huma Weiner? Get it ? Hum a Weiner? Get it?

28 posted on 09/17/2010 1:11:16 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Is Executive Order 6102 still in effect?


29 posted on 09/17/2010 1:23:16 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (King: "I have a dream"...Sharpton: "I want a check")
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To: Jet Jaguar

They don’t want people to own gold. Why not?

Is it because owning gold is a hedge against the gross inflation they know is coming when we default on our debt because the interst is unmanageable and the left doesn’t want the people to have any financial strength whatsoever?


30 posted on 09/17/2010 2:15:03 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Absolute fascists. They are doing to conservatives and really all average Americans what was done to the Jews in pre-WWII Germany.

Never, ever lay down your arms!


31 posted on 09/17/2010 2:19:46 AM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: chilltherats
I think they just want to get Beck. Buying gold has less effect on the government than buying land.
32 posted on 09/17/2010 3:13:57 AM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Jet Jaguar

This will be cancelled. These idiots will figure out such a hearing will expose their own scams.


33 posted on 09/17/2010 4:14:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: blam

They may not have time if we get the House back in American hands in November.


34 posted on 09/17/2010 4:15:53 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (counter revolutionary)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Wiener and Waxman are both schmucks with ear flaps.


35 posted on 09/17/2010 9:06:39 AM PDT by oldtimer
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To: gtwizard

I got a great tip from my conservtive investment broker. He said to invest in gold only from companies that actually carry bullion. If necessary, you can actually go and take possesion of the gold you own. His fear was that the government was going to find a way to regulate the value of “Gold”. But they would only be affecting the value of gold that was bought and sold as paper/electronic. There is no way the government can actually restrict values on 2 oz of 24K mineral.

I’m still working on figuring this all out. But I might have to make some arrangements to haul a couple of pounds of gold to my house and bury it under my basement.


36 posted on 09/17/2010 5:11:35 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: Tenacious 1

The only sane method to own gold (whether that’s a good idea or not) has ever and always been to have it in your possession. Your broker isn’t giving very good advice. Much of the financial system in recent years has proved to be a scam and/or house of cards, don’t expect the gold market to be any different. There will likely be at some point some very upset people who thought they owned gold, that is especially ironic. Akin to having a picture of a fire extinguisher in lieu of the real thing.


37 posted on 09/17/2010 7:08:01 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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