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Founder of today’s China killed 45 million of his own people(in 4 yrs)
Tibetan Review ^ | 09/05/10

Posted on 09/17/2010 5:04:29 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Founder of today’s China killed 45 million of his own people

(TibetanReview.net, Sep05, 2010) Recently declassified Chinese Communist Party archives show that the Great Helmsman, Chairman Mao Tsetung's regime cased the greatest "man-made famine" the world has ever seen, reported the ANI news service Sep 3, citing a new publication from Hong Kong. Mao's Great Famine, by Frank Dikotter, Professor of Humanities at the University of Hong Kong, is reported to show that 45 million Chinese people were killed between 1958 and 1961.

Chinese propaganda posters of the late 1950s show smiling young workers marching jubilantly towards unity under the benevolent Great Leader. However, the historian is cited as saying, the reality was that workers were more likely to be found lying dead in the gutters of rundown towns or falling, weak from starvation, in the paddy fields. All around would be the stomach-churning signs of neglect, food shortages and death dealing poverty. People often risked their lives stealing grain from the fields.

The newly opened party archives are reported to show that starvation drove some peasants to actually eat the earth itself before dying. Many houses in the smaller towns were pulled down to provide building materials, with their former occupants forcibly herded into collectives, or, worse, left to live wild. Some of the elderly workers, too frail to keep up with unrealistic production quotas, were put on slow starvation diets.

The book is cited as saying Chairman Mao, who is revered by the current regime with his portrait hanging on the Tiananmen Square, was not the warm father of his people, but a foul, heartless dictator, who had thrown his country into frenzy.

And while the ordinary people of China fell into the depths of hell, corruption was reported to be rampant at every level of Chinese society – from those in Chairman Mao's own coterie (all of whom lived a luxurious life) right down to the small local officials. For example, in a town just outside Beijing, the head of a retirement home systematically stole food and clothes earmarked for the elderly, condemning them to a winter without warmth or padded jackets. Most were said to have died as soon as the frosts appeared and their bodies were left unburied for over a week.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; famine; greatleapforward; maozedong

1 posted on 09/17/2010 5:04:32 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; Jeff Head; Tainan; hedgetrimmer; Unam Sanctam; taxesareforever; Avenger; ...

P!


2 posted on 09/17/2010 5:05:11 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Just for perspective picture 420+ of these stadiums filled.

3 posted on 09/17/2010 5:08:23 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Communists are the number one mass murderers of the 20th Century, hands down.


4 posted on 09/17/2010 5:09:34 AM PDT by Canedawg (...still not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This comes as no surprise to anyone who has been paying
attention. Only the personal accounts have been lacking
but now they’re coming to light.


5 posted on 09/17/2010 5:09:47 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is news? Only for those that refuse to see the obvious.


6 posted on 09/17/2010 5:09:52 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Abathar

That stadium holds 107,000 people?


7 posted on 09/17/2010 5:12:36 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

central planning hell


8 posted on 09/17/2010 5:12:58 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
More proof that Communism always results in dead people.
9 posted on 09/17/2010 5:15:50 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Repeal ObamaCare")
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To: nuconvert

In that picture, I believe in now holds over 114,000.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 5:16:03 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: 2001convSVT

I like how you tie in obamacare and the fact that communism always results in dead people.
Aren’t there folks in the obama admin who admire mao?
Birds of a feather.


11 posted on 09/17/2010 5:18:55 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Abathar

wow, that’s big


12 posted on 09/17/2010 5:19:53 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

I like your tagline.


13 posted on 09/17/2010 5:21:04 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: nuconvert

Biggest in the nation still I believe, and a blast to be there on game day too.


14 posted on 09/17/2010 5:23:46 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife

Hi. Thanx. ;~ )


15 posted on 09/17/2010 5:29:54 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Abathar

...and I thought the Rose Bowl was big ...


16 posted on 09/17/2010 5:31:01 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Texas resident
"Aren’t there folks in the obama admin who admire mao?"

It would not surprise me. The road to h-ll is paved with good intentions (that just don't work).

17 posted on 09/17/2010 5:31:24 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Repeal ObamaCare")
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The ultimate trump card of the global statists is the food supply.

Their use of such tools as “cap and trade” (tap and bleed) and the EPA controls over land use and farming, their control of private property, and their abuse of the interstate commerce clause to control what people can grow on their land (by charging a confiscatory fee) are all designed in large part to centralize control of the food supply.

The recent trends in the various bread baskets of the world indicate a cooling trend, despite the lies from the eco-commies.

Folks, this is very dangerous. We do not have the excess food-manufacturing and storage capacity that we used to have because of the above control issues and because we have grown complacent thinking that our technology and the weather will always allow us to produce and abundance of food.

This is no longer the case. And we are at a very dangerous point in that one small event could cause massive food shortages.

In the last couple of years, the western provinces of Canada have exhausted the government-funded subsidies for crop failure — and this happened because of a very slight drop in temperature and increase in rain. Those weather patterns usually migrate to the upper midwest and central region of our country.

Read my tag and make it a part of your lives.


18 posted on 09/17/2010 5:35:29 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

yeah I just have to shake my head when somebody waxes on about how much he “admires” mao


19 posted on 09/17/2010 5:35:34 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Recently declassified Chinese Communist Party archives show that the Great Helmsman, Chairman Mao Tsetung's regime cased the greatest "man-made famine" the world has ever seen,

Precisely why he is so beloved by the left.

20 posted on 09/17/2010 5:42:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

This is the number that they now admit to. The actual count would be incredibly hard to estimate accurately, but I believe the true number to closer to 55 million or above.


21 posted on 09/17/2010 5:44:58 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
We do not have the excess food-manufacturing and storage capacity that we used to have because of the above control issues and because we have grown complacent thinking that our technology and the weather will always allow us to produce and abundance of food.

We are only a year or two ahead of a serious wheat rust disaster, but there is another force on the march even more insidious: the Rocky Mountain Locust may return.

If you want to consider the most sophisticated survival system the world has never seen, try this.

22 posted on 09/17/2010 5:47:54 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Mr. Jazzy

This is only for 4 years of “Great Leap Forward” campaign. He killed lots of people since ‘49 until ‘58 to purge(kill) impure elements in China. That may amount to another couple of tens of millions.


23 posted on 09/17/2010 5:50:58 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

“The book is cited as saying Chairman Mao, who is revered by the current regime with his portrait hanging on the Tiananmen Square, was not the warm father of his people, but a foul, heartless dictator, who had thrown his country into frenzy. “
Hummmmm, sounds like the Zewro Admin minions.

45 million slughtered by the Mao. WOW, Obambabots have driven 45 million Americans into poverty. HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM


24 posted on 09/17/2010 5:52:40 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

and yet obama staffers put up Christmas ornaments on the WH tree, bearing this murder’s face


25 posted on 09/17/2010 5:53:39 AM PDT by silverleaf (Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.)
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http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE1.HTM

Statistics of atheistic (Marxist/Darwinian psychology) states in history and the aprox number of murders they are responsible for, proving that no one comes close to their level of genocide in all the history of the world except for the worldwide abortion genocide which is the number one genocide in the history of the world carried out by most all modern Marxist controlled nations worldwide every day increasing its number of those murdered.


26 posted on 09/17/2010 5:54:36 AM PDT by LeaveAmericaNow
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To: TigerLikesRooster

More than that Bro!


27 posted on 09/17/2010 5:55:21 AM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: 2001convSVT

Back around Christmas time, there were pictures posted on FR of tree ornaments with pictures of mao’s face. In the white house. Plus some goofball white house advisor expressed that her heroes were mother teresa and chairman mao. I don’t remember her name because it doesn’t matter. They are all communist loving lemmings.


28 posted on 09/17/2010 5:55:36 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Carry_Okie
From your link:

". Abide in the wild with the Lord of Creation one out of every seven years, or fall into ruin without Him, a nation of slaves. "

So, you are saying I need to go camping every 7 years, and let my fields lie fallow?

29 posted on 09/17/2010 5:56:11 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
One of Mao's “Leaps” came from an observation that common birds were eating grain in the fields. The people were ordered to destroy birds where ever they could be found.
the result was an explosion in the insect population that reduced harvests.
30 posted on 09/17/2010 5:59:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Carry_Okie

“another force on the march even more insidious: the Rocky Mountain Locust may return. “

We are all going to die before that anyway, due to the Gulf oil spill. Massive clouds of oil soaked rain are going to rain down on the eastern half of the country and kill everyone.
Oh wait a minute...


31 posted on 09/17/2010 6:06:08 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I aspire to a large carbon footprint; just like Al Gore's)
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To: I Buried My Guns
So, you are saying I need to go camping every 7 years, and let my fields lie fallow?

It is far more rigorous than even that. Shemitta was to be a comprehensive system of social opportunity, stocking a year's worth of food in caves while eating off the old store, a rebinding of the agro-urban and pastoral elements of the society to teach the former how to forage, hunt, and shoot, to develop the infrastructure for an entire nation to become capable of sustained guerrilla war.

As a tiny trading country sitting amid the Babylonian, Hittite, and Egyptian empires, Israel could afford to be no less if it was going to survive (which it did not because they never kept Shemitta and Jubilee to the full), but it was more than that. The total system was the crux of a true anarchy, by which to be a light of liberty to oppressed peoples everywhere, showing them how to throw off their despots. The Torah was in fact a revolutionary document.

So, as to what we are to do now, obviously the entire economy would crash if the Christian world even attempted a limited variant of such a practice. There is however, no problem with slowly moving in that direction. The Lord is known to respect an insufficient offering given with a whole heart.

As of now, for the most part I am merely reporting what the Scriptures actually say on the matter, because our agro-urban perspective on a Bible largely written by shepherds has distorted its interpretation. Over the next year or two I hope to develop more ideas on where we go from here.

32 posted on 09/17/2010 6:16:08 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
We are all going to die before that anyway, due to the Gulf oil spill.

Please, if you want to broadcast stupidity, just keep at it. You really have style.

33 posted on 09/17/2010 6:18:07 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There are active Maoist rebel groups in Nepal and in Colombia.
That has always stunned me. Out of any political leader or philosophy one might ever espouse, why Chairman Mao? He very nearly destroyed China.


34 posted on 09/17/2010 6:18:19 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Texas resident

You are right, I do remember the lizard tong lady saying that.


35 posted on 09/17/2010 6:24:05 AM PDT by 2001convSVT ("Repeal ObamaCare")
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To: Carry_Okie
“Please, if you want to broadcast stupidity, just keep at it. You really have style.”

Well some posters here thought that might happen; or at least links to them were put.
Check it out.

The point is pretty obvious. Someone is always predicting some type of Armageddon is imminent.
Most of us get tired of the latest “scare”. Be prepared yes, but don't run around like chicken little in a constant state of fear.

36 posted on 09/17/2010 6:25:00 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I aspire to a large carbon footprint; just like Al Gore's)
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To: Mr. Jazzy; TigerLikesRooster
That figure, 55 million, is closer to what current PRC documents seem to be showing.
A buddy of mine is currently working an a book on China and last week we were discussing this new book by Dikotter. There has been new material come out as recent as this year which was not available to Dikotter wen he was doing his research. 50 mil is pretty solid with another 5-7 mil from less than well documented areas. The "revolutionaries" destroyed a lot of docs when they killed the "landlords" and "anti-revolutionaries."
37 posted on 09/17/2010 6:25:14 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Be prepared yes, but don't run around like chicken little in a constant state of fear.

I just wrote an entire book in exactly that vein. Shemitta isn't about fear mongering, it is about prevention. My family was among the first settlers in Pella btw.

38 posted on 09/17/2010 6:30:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie
the Rocky Mountain Locust may return. The Rocky Mountain Locust has been extinct for over 130 years with the last great swarm in 1877. The last sighting of an individual locust was in 1902. Before that swarms used to hit every 20 years or so.

What makes you think they are magically going to come back?

39 posted on 09/17/2010 6:34:04 AM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
...the greatest "man-made famine" the world has ever seen...

SInce the Industrial Revolution, all famines are man-made. They are political weapons, used to simultaneously eliminate opponents and collect foreign cash.

40 posted on 09/17/2010 6:35:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: nuke rocketeer; HereInTheHeartland
The Rocky Mountain Locust has been extinct for over 130 years with the last great swarm in 1877.

So it is said. A recent book by University of Wyoming entomologist, Dr. Jeffry Lockwood, would belie that contention, appropriately titled: Locust. It is a study of that "extinction" with a surprising ending:

Among the grasshoppers that I have collected in Yellowstone National Park, I remember one female with spectacularly long wings. Of course, females are very difficult to identify, but she was officially recorded as Melanoplus bruneri, the closest living relative of Melanoplus spretus. I may have been wrong in my classification of that long-winged female, but mistaken identities are sometimes a saving grace for individuals whose existence may not be welcomed. Recently, I captured several similar individuals from a meadow in the park. They also appeared to be M. bruneri, although they lacked the distinctive yellow coloration on the underside that typifies this species. I think that I know who they were, so I released them back into the field. Because I did not remove them from the park, their identities and location need not be reported to the authorities.

Lockwood is your basic gay greenie deep ecologist with a passion for destroying modern civilization in the name of halting runaway "global warming." He just aches to see great clouds of trillions of locusts wrecking destruction (never mind that their numbers were augmented by the destruction of so many bison). The keys to restraining them since were overpopulated bison and elk in that part of the country trampling their egg cases along streams. Now that the government has released wolves and fenced off the streams in the name of "environmental protection" who knows what will happen?

41 posted on 09/17/2010 6:49:28 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Anything can happen, and disaster probably will happen; sometime somewhere.
We are all too comfortable with our affluent lifestyles.
But I will be prepared as I can be, but not sit up at night worrying too much.
I will spend my energy more on the political process. That is where we can prevent man made disasters.
Not a lot I can do to prevent the Yellowstone volcano from taking out much of the US.
But I can have influence over Marxists taking over our country.
42 posted on 09/17/2010 7:33:20 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I aspire to a large carbon footprint; just like Al Gore's)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
But I will be prepared as I can be, but not sit up at night worrying too much.

Agreed! Information does help focus that effort effectively.

But I can have influence over Marxists taking over our country.

Amen to that. It is important to show how insidious they are. I just wanted you to know that the information is credible. From what I can tell, they may be re-establishing as far east as Nebraska (I'm working to have a photograph identified), but have yet to find an entomologist with appropriate experience, alas, J. Gordon Edwards has passed away.

43 posted on 09/17/2010 7:44:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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Stalin, Mao, etc. learned to use famine as one of their main weapons of genocide as it was, and will always be the cheapest method to murder by the tens of millions.

When Stalin, Mao, etc. murdered by food lockdowns they would have little need for any bullets, food for their military, oil for tanks/trucks, etc. All they had to do was confiscate all guns in all areas, cover the entire nation with propaganda, then send in military groups town to town, threaten all not to farm and take all food they had, then move to next town and repeat. By the time they would come back the large percentage of towns have already died of starvation, and those still left would be too sick and weak to fight anyways.

Stalin once said “no person, no problem”.

To get rid of all “problems” of opposition to their Marxist/Socialist nations, Stalin, Mao, etc. choose to just get rid of all the people they didn’t want to even exist. Thus, no person, no problem.

History will repeat itself, the Marxists have more power now then in those times and will implement the same genocidal things again in the future, prepare yourself.


44 posted on 09/17/2010 10:03:57 AM PDT by LeaveAmericaNow
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Never forget that Obama is a self-admitted communist and would easily kill every one in America to get his way.


45 posted on 09/17/2010 10:55:06 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Carry_Okie

There are still farmers who kept DDT hidden in their barns to be used just for such emergencies....


46 posted on 09/17/2010 1:03:46 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
There are still farmers who kept DDT hidden in their barns to be used just for such emergencies....

I'm so there...

47 posted on 09/17/2010 1:32:00 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: Carry_Okie

And the locust, if it is still alive in Yellowstone, will still need a much larger breeding area before it becomes a threat.


48 posted on 09/17/2010 1:35:31 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer (File CONGRESS.SYS corrupted: Re-boot Washington D.C (Y/N)?)
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To: nuke rocketeer
And the locust, if it is still alive in Yellowstone, will still need a much larger breeding area before it becomes a threat.

You have only to wait, or maybe not. If I am right, that has already happened, courtesy of the the US Fish and Wildlife Service and the Nature Conservancy...

...or should I say "BP"?

I can't say more right now until I have more definitive information.

49 posted on 09/17/2010 1:57:58 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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