Skip to comments.Who holds the title of 'Greatest Mass Murderer in History?' (The winner is ....)
Posted on 09/17/2010 10:15:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said yesterday.
Speaking at The Independent Woodstock Literary Festival, Frank Dikötter, a Hong Kong-based historian, said he found that during the time that Mao was enforcing the Great Leap Forward in 1958, in an effort to catch up with the economy of the Western world, he was responsible for overseeing "one of the worst catastrophes the world has ever known".
Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to 1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.
Will the truth set us free?
Between 1958 and 1962, a war raged between the peasants and the state; it was a period when a third of all homes in China were destroyed to produce fertiliser and when the nation descended into famine and starvation, Mr Dikötter said.
His book, Mao's Great Famine; The Story of China's Most Devastating Catastrophe, reveals that while this is a part of history that has been "quite forgotten" in the official memory of the People's Republic of China, there was a "staggering degree of violence" that was, remarkably, carefully catalogued in Public Security Bureau reports, which featured among the provincial archives he studied. In them, he found that the members of the rural farming communities were seen by the Party merely as "digits", or a faceless workforce. For those who committed any acts of disobedience, however minor, the punishments were huge.
What is truly remarkable about this revelation is that most anti-Communists who had studied Chinese history believed that the real bloodletting occurred during the so-called "Cultural Revolution" which was just another name for a gigantic purge of people with suspect ideology and dedication to Mao's idea of a socialist state. Some estimates ranged as high as 20 million dead during that period, although more recent estimates placed the number of those executed, tortured, or starved to death around 1 million.
Note also that it was during a similar period of collectivization that saw the horrendous body count in Stalin's Russia. Millions of Kulaks died resisting the seizure of their property either through state sponsored murder or deliberate starvation.
What is it about Communism that leaves so many dead in its wake? Anything can be justified - including mass murder - to achieve the goals of the state. Mao's record, as bad as it is, can be placed in the context of all communist states who murder their own citizens for the good of all.
That’s why Mao is one of the favorite “philosophers” in some parts of the White House circle.
I imagine that our children are being taught that that title goes to President Bush.
True, very true...................
Pol Pot had a better average. Just fewer at-bats.
Ya beat me to it.
All were socialists, Muslims and or animal rights nuts.
That was my thought, just no numbers to prove it.
Lets see, book in 1964 DDT ban about 73 or 74 almost forty years of rampant mosquito born disease mostly in third world countries. Hmmmmmmm.
Stalin might have him beat.
I’ve heard numbers as high as 60 million.
Sixty is probably too high, but 40-50 is a good guess.
Satan, a murderer from the start ... but too many do not believe this evil is real.
It's Rachel Carson.
Communism = liberals in a hurry.
Democide which death by government is right here..
All the statistics are here.. and probably pretty accurate..
Rachel Carson? Huh?
Greatest mass murderer in history....Rachel Carson.....
I disagree, murder requires intent, and she did not intend for tens of millions of people to die because of her screed against DDT. The fact is, she knew little of science, or anything else, for that matter. I thing she was used by the nascent left wing environmental movement to gain traction with the general public by creating an monster they could tie to “evil” corporations, the third world be damned.
I’m not saying tens of millions of people didn’t die as a result of the ban on DDT, they did, but I think she was more of a dupe in the scheme of things. That’s my opinion anyway.
I have to believe Stalin is right up there. I’ve heard the 50 million figure...
Mao’s name has long been in the Guinness Book of World Records as the world’s greatest killer. Back when I was a kid, the number was listed as 25 million. I guess that we just need to revise the number upward.
That was COLD ... but accurate ...
Mao Zedong, founder of the People’s Republic of China
and one of Anita Dunn’s heros.
His picture can also be found on zero’s Christmas tree!
I thought it was the Mongol warrior the Great Kahn
Pardon my ignorance, but how did Rachel Carson kill more than Mao?
US Supreme Court; Roe V Wade. 50,000,000 and counting.
“Communism = liberals in a hurry.”
Also Communism = liberals without constraints.”
Gotta disagree. Mao just had more warm bodies available to kill. When it comes to mass murder, Pol Pot killed more of his own people than anyone in history by a wide margin.
Solzhenitsyn claims Stalin killed over 100 million, the record keeping just wasn’t any good........
Higher on base percentage.
Adjust for inflation.
After a while it almost doesn’t matter how many. Members of my extended family have survived Japanese occupation, the 1949 “Liberation,” the Great Leap Forward, and the Cultural Revolution. During the Great Leap, they often saw the dead lying on the road and “eating” meant a meal of watery rice broth with a piece of bark and insects. Their big “treat” were rats captured chewing on a corpse.
Chinnghis Quan? Not even close. Although he and his son and grandsons were the great “clean up hitters” of their time.
I agree- Rachel Carson. If you are going to attribute “policy” deaths to Mao, you should know that there are 3-5 million malaria deaths each year and the DDT ban has been in affect for enough decades to make Rachel Carson the responsible for more deaths than Mao.
Very interesting! Thank you.
...and yet the MSM is decrying O’Donnell while standing up for a self-proclaimed marxist.
Somebody whose middle name is Wayne....that’s a given.
Also, for a good many of them, he didn’t even need a bullet.
Soviet troops just moved in and stole/burnt/destroyed crops and moved on.
Tens of millions just starved. You don’t even have to go to a hospital to starve.
Mao Wayne Tse Tung
Pol Wayne Pot
Josef Wayne Stalin
Adolf Wayne Hitler
Idi Amin Wayne Data
Saddam Wayne Hussein
But really, what is the value of millions of human lives when compared to the feeling of moral superiority that one experiences when advocating left-wing pseudoscience?
Sanger and Hitler’s inspiration. Just google the full name of the ‘origin of species’
“more recent estimates placed the number of those executed, tortured, or starved to death around 1 million.”
Typical revision of history!
Hitler was a creationist. He didn't think Germans and Jews were descended from apes, but Germans were the superior descendants of apes - he called for the German people to avenge the “blood upon the Cross”.