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Child Still Expelled for Toy Gun (2 years, already out of school 1 year !)
NBC Miami ^

Posted on 09/17/2010 10:51:08 AM PDT by Scythian

Parents want their child back in school. School board says no way

Print Share Buzz up!62retweetTOP1K5diggsdigg Samuel Burgos has fond memories of his friends at school, but he only gets to see them in pictures now.

The 8-year-old boy hasn't been in school for a year and will likely miss another year if the Broward County School Board has its way.

Burgos was suspended from school in November after a teacher found a toy gun in his backpack. But when the boy went to register to go back to Pembroke Pines Charter School, he was told he will be expelled for this school year, too, as part of the county's zero tolerance weapons policy.

"He made a mistake, but why the severe punishment? I don't understand that," said Magdiel Burgos, Sam's dad.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; homeschool; homeschooling; publicschools; publikschoolz; rkba; zerotolerance
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1 posted on 09/17/2010 10:51:09 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

bump ?


2 posted on 09/17/2010 10:54:31 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

This zero tolerance crap REALLY fries me!

When I was in middle school (late 80s), I got “caught” with a Swiss army knife in my bookbag. It was my Boy Scout knife, and I usually always had it with me. Some little kid reported me to a teacher, but when I was dragged into the AP’s office, he called my mother, told her that she had to come pick it up and that it wasn’t appropriate to have at school and sent me on my way.

I DREAD to think what my young life would’ve been like if I was born 10 years later.


3 posted on 09/17/2010 10:54:47 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Scythian
...after a teacher found a toy gun in his backpack.

OMG!!! A concealed toy gun. Get used to home-schooling, kid.

4 posted on 09/17/2010 10:54:56 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Scythian
Samuel Burgos has fond memories of his friends at school, but he only gets to see them in pictures now.

Yeah, whatever.

I wish they had that when I was in school.

Lucky bastard.

5 posted on 09/17/2010 10:54:56 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: rarestia
Some little kid reported me to a teacher

Snitches get stitches.

6 posted on 09/17/2010 10:56:21 AM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Scythian

And there are idiots out there that seriously ask “Why are home schools becoming so popular?”


7 posted on 09/17/2010 10:56:37 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: Scythian
Public school is child abuse.

The boy should be in private school and the parents should sue the district into bankruptcy.

8 posted on 09/17/2010 10:57:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Scythian

We used to play Cowboys N Indians and Cops N Robbers in the school playground during recess and lunch...

Toy guns and all

Thank goodneess I wasnt born 50 years later..

BTW no child murdered or maimed another all the years I was in school...


9 posted on 09/17/2010 10:58:44 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Scythian

the district obviously prefers to school this child at home or pay for his private school

at least an attorney would see that they did


10 posted on 09/17/2010 10:59:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (The lesser of two evils is still evil.)
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To: Scythian

This sort of stupidity is precisely why none of my kids have ever darkened the the doors of a public school.


11 posted on 09/17/2010 10:59:39 AM PDT by Busywhiskers ("Once you have wrestled, everything else in life is easy" -Dan Gable)
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To: Scythian

Lawsuit anyone? I usually detest parents sueing schools, but in this case I am all for it. Do the parents get a refund from their Fed, State, and property taxes for not being able to access the public amenities they pay for? Couldn’t they say the kid is muslum and its a religious thing? I am sure Mayor Blumbug would bite on that one.


12 posted on 09/17/2010 11:00:47 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Scythian

But yet these tyrants still take the tax money from them...


13 posted on 09/17/2010 11:00:53 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Scythian
Things have REALLY changed since my time! During the early 1980's in rural WV I remember boys would often come to High School during hunting season wearing Camo and with guns in their trucks. I distinctly remember one incident where two boys were standing in front of the school and one had a rifle, the Asst. Principal walked up and asked them what they were doing. They responded that Boy 1 was showing Boy 2 a rifle that he was thinking about selling. The Principal just rolled his eyes and told them that this was a school not the local Swap and Shop and to put the gun in their truck and conclude their business after school.

Could you imagine if that happened today! It would be a national news story...

14 posted on 09/17/2010 11:02:26 AM PDT by apillar
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To: gundog
I used to keep my Model 81 Remington in my trunk, during deer season, when I was in High School, my Model 12 during bird season, this was in Mass. The country has gone Mad.
15 posted on 09/17/2010 11:02:47 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: rarestia
When I was in school you could take a shotgun on the bus to school, store it in your school locker, and hunt after school on school property!
16 posted on 09/17/2010 11:02:52 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Scythian
Sue the school district. The law says a child MUST attend school until the age of 16. If they don't, the parents are charged with truancy.

If this mother simply decided to keep her child home and do nothing for 2 years, she'd be charged with child abuse.

17 posted on 09/17/2010 11:03:12 AM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Owl_Eagle
Snitches get stitches.

Yeah, that's the idea we want to instill in our kids... [/sarcasm]

I guess you like having thugs and gang-bangers running around.

The problem is with the way the policy is implemented, and that problem isn't solved by "snitches get stitches."

18 posted on 09/17/2010 11:03:33 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: rarestia

“I DREAD to think what my young life would’ve been like if I was born 10 years later.”

Dude, in my high school half the pickups and cars had shotguns in them since the farm boys would go hunting early in the morning. We also had a smoking court and as seniors were allowed to go out for lunch. BTW, we never had to have teachers teach us on how to use a condom. Times, they do change.


19 posted on 09/17/2010 11:03:42 AM PDT by equalitybeforethelaw
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To: Scythian

Back in the day we had knives in our boots, Skoal in our back pockets, and shot guns in our unlocked pick ups in the school parking lot. Amazing how no one thought a thing about it but today kids can get a record for having a toy gun or a plastic butter knife or their t-shirt offends someone.


20 posted on 09/17/2010 11:04:27 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Little Bill

Yeah...I had an Outdoor Citizenship class in the late 70’s.
Air rifles in the cafeteria. Horror of horrors.


21 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:29 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Scythian

I shot rifles in school, because that’s where the range was!


22 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:31 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Scythian

I had to try to explain to my son why he couldn’t wear his big belt buckle with a sillouette of an old time six gun on it to school. A ten year old couldn’t even understand the logic.


23 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:46 AM PDT by suthener
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To: equalitybeforethelaw

Sick and sad.

I pray that we’ll soon have a full restoration of complete 2nd Amendment rights. I would love to see a re-emergence of extracurricular shooting clubs.


24 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:46 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Scythian
School board officials said the rules are quite clear and that the toy gun constituted a weapon.

Fools in charge.

25 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:55 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Tennessee Nana
We used to play Cowboys N Indians and Cops N Robbers in the school playground during recess and lunch...

When I was in grade school, virtually all boys carried (real) knives in their pocket. When we were bored we would play mumbley-peg on the playgrounds. No one ever was stabbed or, as I recall, even cut.

26 posted on 09/17/2010 11:09:21 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: equalitybeforethelaw
We also had a smoking court and as seniors were allowed to go out for lunch.

Sounds like my high school after they started to crack down. Before, the kids generally smoked everywhere, and it was an open campus for everyone. Graduated in '79.

27 posted on 09/17/2010 11:09:30 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Navy Patriot

Private schools have “no tolerance” too! My now 19-year-old was expelled from my parish school for having a knife. He was being bullied and decided to protect himself - showed it to some friends... who told the teacher. “No tolerance” had him in a new school the next week. We all lived thru it and I believe that he is better off for the change anyway.


28 posted on 09/17/2010 11:11:15 AM PDT by RebelTXRose
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To: Scythian
Law suit...Federal courts.Step #1...request an emergency order allowing the kid to go to *any* private school in the state at the School Dept’s expense....step #2...sue the School Dept for serious $$$.
29 posted on 09/17/2010 11:13:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: rarestia

We bought our son a small swiss army knife when he was seven and that kid thought he had gone to heaven. He will cherish it forever. He was homeschooled and I still told him not to take it out of his pocket in public. You never know where a libtard will be.


30 posted on 09/17/2010 11:13:15 AM PDT by timeflies
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To: timeflies

That was my first memorable experience with liberalism as the teacher pretty much perp-walked me to the Principal’s office.

Afterward, my mother had to explain to me that some people were afraid of those of us with the knowledge and skills to fend for ourselves. That lesson will never be lost on me.


31 posted on 09/17/2010 11:15:30 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: gundog
You live in Mass West, I had Relatives in Pendelton, so you witnessed the destruction of liberty.
32 posted on 09/17/2010 11:16:32 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: RebelTXRose
We all lived thru it and I believe that he is better off for the change anyway.

The age in this case and the fact that we're talking about a *toy* gun are both vitally important.It sounds like your son's case might have been *quite* different....although it's clearly not good that he was being bullied.

33 posted on 09/17/2010 11:17:37 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Scythian
Amazing how far we have sunk in such a short time. When I was in High School in the late 1970’s it was not unusual to see a pickup in the student parking lot with a hunting rifle in a gun rack. The school even and a shooting club with skeet and target competition.
Now, it was no Polyanna situation - we did have fist fights and the usual punks you avoided in the halls, but we were never worried about someone bringing a gun to school to commit a violent act, nor were we worried about having our pockets emptied to see if we had a plastic toy gun.
34 posted on 09/17/2010 11:17:43 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Prokopton

I’ve got a nick scar on my right index finger, from playing mumbley-peg with my knife in the school cafeteria during lunch. School nurse gave me a band-aid and said “well that should teach you not to be stupid”. Taught me to pay more attention while playing mumbley-peg is what it did.


35 posted on 09/17/2010 11:18:41 AM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Public school is child abuse.”

They are “government” schools. There is nothing relevantly “public” about them, except that they feast on tax dollars.

No one should be able to call himself a conservative if he is offering up his children as living sacrifices to the Moloch of government schools.


36 posted on 09/17/2010 11:20:01 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: metmom; JenB; Clintonfatigued

I can’t understand why these parents want their child back in that school.


37 posted on 09/17/2010 11:22:36 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Scythian

The”school”in question has done this child a favor!Home-Schooling will afford this child an EDUCATION!!!


38 posted on 09/17/2010 11:22:45 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: RebelTXRose
had him in a new school the next week

Problem solved, it's tough but you can pick the worthwhile schools with research. Not all parents can home school, but it's the best option for a child.

Public school is a serious crime, and bootlicker private schools are nearly as bad.

39 posted on 09/17/2010 11:22:53 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Little Bill
Well...in spite of Oregon's rep, there's an independent streak left in a lot of us. We'll tell anybody where to get off. The hill folks are slow to anger, but they're mean when angry. Lots of Arkansas transplants.
40 posted on 09/17/2010 11:23:40 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: Scythian

This zero tolerance is as ridiculous as political correctness the democrats and Obama.


41 posted on 09/17/2010 11:27:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself) The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

Ya know, sometimes you just have to stop and say, is this actually worth it? Why not just homeschool for real?

42 posted on 09/17/2010 11:28:35 AM PDT by JenB
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To: rarestia
I DREAD to think what my young life would’ve been like if I was born 10 years later.

I'd probably still be in jail :-)
43 posted on 09/17/2010 11:28:50 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: rarestia; Scythian

Rarestia, There’s that Pavlovian Conditioning again...guns are BAAAAAAAD. People who own them are BAAAAAAD.

They’re messing with our kids. And that, to me, is unacceptable. My kids have been shooting since they were 5 years old. So have I.

Personally, if this was my kid I’d tell the school board to shove it up their “collective “ asses and homeschool my kid.


44 posted on 09/17/2010 11:30:02 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: gundog
The hill folks are slow to anger....

My Ridge Runner Relatives in Alabama are rather quick to anger and it seems so are stay at homes in Arkansas. Get pissed and toss 'em.

45 posted on 09/17/2010 11:32:11 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: achilles2000
Does "public school" properly identify and confirm the target?

OK, then.

46 posted on 09/17/2010 11:33:59 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Scythian
Disgraceful. It make absolutely no sense. Schools exist to serve the children. Children do not exist to serve the school. Too often it is the incompetent who wind up in school administrative positions. With a little media coverage a good lawyer these parents could quickly teach these worthless moon-bats a much need lesson.
47 posted on 09/17/2010 11:35:43 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: Scythian

Really it sounds as if the Broward schools are doing this young man a favor. I hope he has a parent that can stay home and help him through one of the excellent home-school curricula that are available these days.


48 posted on 09/17/2010 11:40:55 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: JenB

>>Why not just homeschool for real?<<

From what I have seen, it’s because parents have better things to do than worry about their kids. Easier just to drop them off.


49 posted on 09/17/2010 11:41:46 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
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To: Navy Patriot

You are right. It does identify the target, but at the expense of perpetuating a false conception of the institution. “Government school” identifies the target and is far more accurate.


50 posted on 09/17/2010 11:44:33 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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