We are called to be obedient to authority, even when they are wrong.
We are called to be obedient to authority, even when they are wrong.
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Clearly you have never read Judges, nor the words or deeds of Christ.
The American system has been a truely unique system, where the common, everyday person has a right AND a responsibility to shape our governance. To avoid confrontation of an elected official, because of "submission" is cowardace and irresponsible.
God gave you the ability AND the RESPONSIBILITY to shape our government. Thats called stewardship.
Time to step up to that responsibility. To slack off NOT ONLY affects you, but those around you.
You don't know your Bible very well, do you.
I suppose all them Jews who were marched into the gas chambers at Dachau were being "obedient to authority", too.
Frigging idiot....
“We are called to be obedient to authority, even when they are wrong.” Raycpa
The above heresy is one of the most demented false teachings that has ever been perpetuated by hypocritical false pacifist heretics in the last 2000 years. All Satan and his ministers have to do is make people believe this lie that God somehow wants all to (literally and in every situation without exception) obey all “rulers”, “authority figures” and every “ordinance of man”. In doing so such evil forces then achieve a great perversion of Biblical interpretation which (throughout history) has caused hundreds of millions to be murdered, abused, raped and pillaged for over 2000 years NEEDLESSLY and against the will of God.
The apostle Paul himself DISOBEYED the “authorities” / “rulers” outright even to the point of insulting them on one occasion and becoming a fugitive by escaping a warrant for his arrest from another ‘ruler’ on another occasion. Also Peter had the help of an angel to DISOBEY the so called ‘rulers’ to actually break out of prison himself.
To be a pure pacifist is to NOT love your neighbor. Pure pacifism and obedience to “EVERYTHING” literally from any ‘ruler/authority figure/ordinance’ actually helps to empower all of the satanic hordes of demons and their human servants to multiply all their abuses UPON thy neighbor to do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING THEY WISH upon them.
Only the *concept* or *right to govern justly by a group of weapon holding persons* aka ‘government’, justice and law enforcement is Biblical (when it is “for the Lord’s sake”, ie when it is in line with the commandments of the Bible/pleasing to the sake of God’s will). Not all the things that are “ordained” by various (and as well opposing and contradicting types of) governments/authority figures/rulers/ordinances are “for the Lord’s sake/pleasing to the will of God”, and therefore should NOT be obeyed, nor supported, whether it is some tribal ‘ruler’ wielding a spear in the jungles of Papua, or a group of globalist genocidal agenda Marxists who control the world globally through the UN/OECD/IMF and wield nuclear weapons, banking blacklists, sanctions, confiscations and imprisonments.
Ecc 3:1 To every [thing there is] a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven
The Bible must be interpreted correctly in context as a whole, otherwise one will quickly become a hypocrite, heretic, and an abuser of mankind very quickly.
When the final Antichrist appears such hypocritical pacifistic heresies will be preached from the pulpits of many so called ‘churches’ telling all listening that all ‘believers’ should ‘obey the rulers’ and take the mark of the beast itself, as it will be a commanded ‘ordinance of man’ from the ‘ruler’ of the world ‘government’ at that time, and according to such false interpretations “all governments and all their ordinances” are “ordained by God” and every one of them are literally in every instance “for your good.”
If anyone learns anything from the Bible in order to oppose this heresy learn that there are SAYINGS in the Bible, figures of speech, parables, simile, generalities, exceptional phrases as well as literal commands with no exceptions.
You can’t separate the Bible from reality, history and normal human language usage itself and expect to come up with proper interpretations and doctrinal viewpoints.
The topic of bible verses and donuts among school children of course is a much more minor ‘ordinance’ from a ‘ruler/authority figure’. Once must of course determine in every case how far it is worth disobeying the ‘ruler’ when considering the type of ‘ruler’ one is dealing with and how wicked they are in their capability or intent to use violence/confiscation/imprisonment upon you or your children or “thy neighbor”. Upon examination of the scenario properly, you and you alone have to decide by using the wisdom God gave you and comparing it to examples in the Bible and history as to how far you are willing to oppose the ‘ruler’ and his ‘ordinance’, or are you going to let it go and save your energy for more serious threats upon yourself or “thy neighbor” at the hands of ‘rulers’ or ‘authority figures’. Whatever decision you make you have to bear the responsibility for it in the end as God does not promise to intervene to save you out of the hands of evil doers if you push your level of disobedience against them even if you are justified.
History has shown that millions upon millions of Godly people have been tortured, abused and murdered at the hands of ‘rulers’, ‘kings’ and ‘government’ ‘authority figures’, so don’t make decisions without properly examining what the outcome will most likely bring to you and “thy neighbor” and if you are willing to live with what the possible outcome may be.
Luke 14:31 (Jesus said) “what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.”
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison. Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing. (ie, even if you may be in the right, this is a sinful world ruled by mostly wicked ‘rulers’ who are not ‘out for your good’ and you must be wise in knowing how to deal with them in order to avoid even more harsh abuses at their hands then if you respond in other ways).
Mat 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
>We are called to be obedient to authority, even when they are wrong.
Not so! And I have scripture, both old and new testament, to back my assertion:
1, Old Testament, Daniel in the lion’s den: Daniel refused to comply with the law that none should pray to any god or man for a certain time. Daniel could have complied by simply *not praying.*
2, Old Testament, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego in the Fiery Furnace: these three were thrown into a furnace because they would not comply with the King’s order to worship his statue.
3, New Testament, Jesus said: “Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s; and unto God that which is God’s.”
— Note, very carefully, that Jesus did *NOT* say ‘render unto Caesar that which is God’s.’
“We are called to be obedient to authority, even when they are wrong.”
Fatuous b*llsh*t!
Be a man.