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At 147 mph, highway safety is just a blur
The Patriot-News ^ | September 17, 2010 | Liam Migdail-Smith

Posted on 09/17/2010 10:18:22 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Going 96 mph on a 65-mph highway is enough to land a speeder in serious legal trouble.

That’s 31 mph over the speed limit, and it’s the threshold between a regular speeding violation and the more egregious offense of “excessive speeding,” which earns violators a meeting with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation that they’ll likely walk out of with a suspended license.

On Wednesday night, state police stopped a motorcyclist they said was clocked at 147 mph. That’s 82 mph over the limit.

“That is probably the highest speed I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been at PennDOT nine years now,” PennDOT spokeswoman Fritzi Schreffler said.

The motorcyclist might be one of the fastest speeders caught in the midstate. Schreffler and Trooper Tom Pinkerton, a state police spokesman, said they’ve never seen reports of people caught at speeds that are even close to 147 mph.

The identity of the 24-year-old Enola man will be released after he’s charged when toxicology reports come back indicating whether he was under the influence of alcohol, police said.

In 2003, a Carbon County man was caught while going 182 mph in his Lamborghini Diablo.

In Wednesday’s case, an officer waiting in the construction zone on Interstate 81 northbound in Silver Spring Township — just before Route 114 — caught the red 2003 Honda CBR 600RR motorcycle’s speed on radar, according to state police. The officer pulled out, lights flashing, to signal the motorcyclist over.

Pinkerton said police wouldn’t chase a vehicle going that fast because it would put other drivers in harm’s way. But, he said, “You still have to pull out and afford the driver the opportunity to know that police are wanting him to pull over.”

Police said they caught up with the motorcyclist when he slowed down to avoid a cluster of three tractor-trailers.

“He should count himself lucky that the tractor-trailers were ahead,” Schreffler said.

It takes a person’s brain 1.5 seconds to identify an issue ahead in the road and react to it, said Greg Sullenberger of Crashteams Pennsylvania & West Virginia, an accident-investigation agency. Someone going 147 mph would travel about 322 feet in those 1.5 seconds, making it unlikely he or she would be able to avoid an accident, he said.

If someone crashes a motorcycle — or even a car — at 147 mph, experts agree it would take a miracle for him to come out alive.

“Your internal organs just can’t survive that,” Sullenberger said.

Fast-moving motorcycles present a special danger for other vehicles. Because a motorcycle is a narrow object, it would slice through a car rather than just hit it, injuring or killing the driver or passengers. “It will sort of cut into a car like a knife into butter,” Sullenberger said.

A speeder who survives going 147 mph could face steep legal penalties.

Drivers going more than 31 mph over the speed limit have to attend a special hearing with PennDOT, Schreffler said. That can result in a range of penalties, such as retaking the driving test, mandated driving classes and a 15-day license suspension.

There’s no special class under state law for drivers going as much as 82 mph over the limit because it’s so unheard of, Schreffler said. So despite the extreme circumstances, PennDOT officials, as much as they might like to, cannot impose penalties outside what’s specified by law, she said. But the motorcyclist in Wednesday’s incident likely will see doubled fines because he was clocked in a work zone, she said.

In addition to speeding violations, someone going that fast could face charges of reckless driving or recklessly endangering another person, depending on whether there were other vehicles on the road, Pinkerton said.


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1 posted on 09/17/2010 10:18:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My corvette easily went faster than that uphill on one occasion when I was more or less testing the replacement of all fuel injectors. I didn’t even realize I was going that fast and when I looked at the speedometer I was actually a little surprised and immediately backed off the accelerator.

That was over 15 years ago, and I know that plenty of current model motorcycles can easily reach much higher velocity.


2 posted on 09/17/2010 10:22:54 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Blue Jays
Posters using the childishly inane term organ donor and/or similar terms following this post are utter nitwits.

3 posted on 09/17/2010 10:24:25 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Aircraft clocked (or spotted, however that works) me at 125 in Blythe California. Ticket for 90 because the officer didn’t believe my car could go any more than that.


4 posted on 09/17/2010 10:24:40 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I didn't know a 600 could go that fast. I remember a friend of my brother's took me for a ride on the back of his KZ1000 (to a wedding reception, both of us dressed in tuxes). He hit 120 with ease on a two lane, with lots of cars on the road and all those intersections.

The dashed white line in the center of the road turned into a solid white line. The telephone poles were going by faster than I could count. Tunnel vision.

All I could think was, "Oh well, if a car pulls out in front of us, it isn't going to hurt."

It was quite an adrenaline rush. Although that was 30-some years ago. I wouldn't care to do that again.

5 posted on 09/17/2010 10:31:01 PM PDT by FlyVet (")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

82 mph over the limit, doubled because of the construction zone. I’d hate to see the dollar amount of the fine.


6 posted on 09/17/2010 10:31:08 PM PDT by rickb308 (I love watching libruls heads explode as they see their dogma run over by their karma.)
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To: Domandred
On the long straight highway 9 between El Paso and Demming, someone might have got a 350Z going 154 according to the speedo. That same someone might also have been passed like he was standing still by a Ferrari going lord knows how fast.
7 posted on 09/17/2010 10:31:53 PM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
It takes a person’s brain 1.5 seconds to identify an issue ahead in the road and react to it...

Maybe if you are 90 years old. That sounds ridiculous.

...but a bit of Googling tends to confirm it...Driver Reaction Time/a>

8 posted on 09/17/2010 10:31:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They don’t care if you die they just want your $$$ and property before you die.The state could care less.


9 posted on 09/17/2010 10:32:53 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A lot of us have done this. He was unfortunate to get clocked.


10 posted on 09/17/2010 10:34:44 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: Pox

I had a pal, Doug, who owned a ‘68 Barracuda with a 426 hemi. Four of us had been hanging around the Sunset Strip sneaking a beer or two. On the way back to Orange County Doug had the speedometer pegged at 130 mph. God must have been looking after us that night.


11 posted on 09/17/2010 10:35:32 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Lots of PC mythology in that article!

“slice like a knife”, what a crock.

Fastest bike I ever had was only good to about 130, some of my cars were significantly faster.
I have yet to own my fastest car, and I will find the top speed of every car I build.

I cannot say here what I think of nanny state jerks on a mission.
I have no problem with anyone driving as fast as they are capable, so long as the road is reasonably clear and they do not drive stupid.

This guy doing that fast in a construction zone, = STUPID!


12 posted on 09/17/2010 10:40:46 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Blue Jays; All

Of course you can’t use the term organ donor. At that speed everything is mush after the second bounce.

They may not be able to suspend his license for long, but man his insurance bill is going to be insane


13 posted on 09/17/2010 10:41:55 PM PDT by Martel1971
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I own a 2006 Subaru WRX Turbo - not the STI though. I gotten the car to 120 mph going through Nevada one time but being older, I am not comfortable taking it over 90 to 100. I gotten stopped three times in the car. One time doing almost 90 mph going across Missouri, 75 mph in Indiana and stopped for tinted windows in Utah on I-15. Twenty years ago I had a 1990 Mustang GT and got the car to 120 mph on US 24 between US31 and Wabash in Indiana.

The car is a nice little rocket and a blast to drive but also have to be careful to keep my license clean. The ticket in Missouri, they refused to plea bargain the ticket since that one was reported to the MO State Highway Patrol by a homeland security officer.

I remember a kid - Brandon D Raap getting stopped almost four years ago in Northwest Indiana for doing 142 in a 55 in a Sub WRX STi. I don’t know what happened at court and he also had a valid Colorado license. That same ticket here in Colorado would be 12 points - an instant letter to come in for a DMV hearing for a license suspension or red license (restricted license).


14 posted on 09/17/2010 10:43:36 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: RightOnTheBorder
That's about as bad as having a 68 GTO all hooked up doing 135 Mph and have a damn Camaro blast by like the GTO was standing still....I've been told. Makes a person get rid of the GTO and get a 1970 429 Torino Cobra Jet....I've been told ;^)
15 posted on 09/17/2010 10:45:26 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: taxtruth

Bingo!


16 posted on 09/17/2010 10:45:27 PM PDT by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
in the 40s when I was going with my wife I regularly hit 150 in my Olds powered 40 coupe between Los Angeles and UCSB between Thousand Oaks and Santa Barbara.

Back then the cops couldn't go over 100 and they didn't have helicopters.

17 posted on 09/17/2010 10:46:22 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Convertible Z28.

Six Speed Manual.

Cold air.

I-5, south of Los Banos.

5AM.

One minute.

150.


18 posted on 09/17/2010 10:46:53 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: CORedneck

I’ve got a Mustang GT. I drive it like an old lady. My kids scream about it. They are not allowed to drive it.


19 posted on 09/17/2010 10:49:20 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

For those of us overseas who are used to metric, this calculates to 236.57 kph. That’s pretty damn fast.


20 posted on 09/17/2010 10:51:50 PM PDT by Ronin (If it were not so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yes, 147 is so dangerous, that is why drivers in Germany routinely reach speeds of 200 MPH on the autobahn. Granted, it is harder to react at that speed but Germans seem to handle it quite well and have a better safety record than we do, per capita.


21 posted on 09/17/2010 10:53:17 PM PDT by calex59
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To: calex59

I’ll never forget one day in West Germany on the autobahn when I was serving in the Army. I was driving along in a military issue Blazer about 70-75 MPH and saw headlights flashing in my rear view mirror around a mile behind me. In next to no time flat a Mercedes went screaming by me at what must have been around 200 MPH and was over a mile ahead of me in what seemed like a few seconds.

That was an interesting introduction to life in the fast lane!


22 posted on 09/17/2010 10:58:28 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

1999 stock BMW M3 with a chip 175+ no problem and drives like a dream at that speed.


23 posted on 09/17/2010 11:01:09 PM PDT by taxtruth
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To: Pox

Autobahn, Regensberg to Munich. Had the car floored and almost killed myself ausfahrting at full speed. Luckily, that was a lot of grass in front of me when I catapulted off the road.


24 posted on 09/17/2010 11:01:32 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: calex59

It sure as hell improves your driving skills. I remember getting back home driving at 80 mph thinking “oh my God we drive so slow”.


25 posted on 09/17/2010 11:03:38 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Blue Jays
Posters using the childishly inane term organ donor and/or similar terms following this post are utter nitwits.

Indeed.

Hitting anything at that speed would make your internal organs a pulp, rendering them unusable.

26 posted on 09/17/2010 11:03:42 PM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Back in 86 I was one of these idiots on a brand new GSXR 750 with a bigbore kit.Just south of atlanta was the town of hapeville where I was made a guest of the hapeville hilton(JAIL) for running(clocked) at 153 MPH on 85 southbound.The world of shite that happened afterward cured me.There was an ANGEL riding with me that night.


27 posted on 09/17/2010 11:04:55 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Domandred
Aircraft clocked (or spotted, however that works) me at 125 in Blythe California.

Then again, they probably realized they too, would be trying to get out of Blythe as fast as possible.

28 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:28 PM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: JRios1968

Seem to remember seeing something graphic like that one time. In a car yes, on a bike on the track, yes. On a bike on a road with other cars, no way.


29 posted on 09/17/2010 11:05:35 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Loyal Sedition

Slice through the windshield definitely but otherwise the bike will easily go sideways once it hits a car (or so I think)


30 posted on 09/17/2010 11:08:08 PM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“That is probably the highest speed I’ve ever seen, and I’ve been at PennDOT nine years now,” PennDOT spokeswoman Fritzi Schreffler said.

147 mph on Pennsylvania roads! The guy should not be given a ticket> He should be given a psychiatric exam.

31 posted on 09/17/2010 11:09:28 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Had the car floored and almost killed myself ausfahrting at full speed.

Sometimes, the jokes write themselves...

32 posted on 09/17/2010 11:10:11 PM PDT by JRios1968 (The real first rule of Fight Club: don't invite Chuck Norris...EVER)
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To: JRios1968

It did that time. The two cases of Bischofshof in the back made it, luckily.


33 posted on 09/17/2010 11:12:38 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: imahawk

I had a ‘92 GSX600, yoshi pipe, carb kit, ignition advance, K&N filters with modified air box, ect. This has the same crank and lower end as the 750GSXR. Hit over 136 from Mendenhal glacier visitor’s center heading back towards the back loop in Juneau. Nice little straight away there. Tee shirt and no helmet, eyes watering down my back, thinking back now it scares me how youth can make your balls so big and your brain so small. Damn, I miss that bike.


34 posted on 09/17/2010 11:17:14 PM PDT by enraged
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To: dalereed

Weren’t you afraid the tires would blow?

They didn’t have Eagles and Pirellis and such back then...were the tires still capable of taking sustained 150 mph speeds?

Ed


35 posted on 09/17/2010 11:17:54 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: enraged

The tears! I forgot about the tears until you reminded me of that.Kind of gives you a chill thinking back on the stuff we used to do.My kids are young and only think of their old man as a stick in the mudd.We will just keep it that way.Be well FRiend.


36 posted on 09/17/2010 11:21:25 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Speeding in St. Louis.
37 posted on 09/17/2010 11:23:50 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’ve driven 149.2 MPH, and it wasn’t a blur.

It was on a track...but it still wasn’t a blur.

The guy saw the semis, so it must not have been a blur for him, either.


38 posted on 09/17/2010 11:53:22 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Yossarian

Awesome!!!


39 posted on 09/17/2010 11:56:33 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: SaraJohnson

“I’ve got a Mustang GT. I drive it like an old lady.”

If you drive it like an old lady, why do you have it?

Seriously...what’s the point?


40 posted on 09/17/2010 11:58:22 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: dixiechick2000
..but it still wasn’t a blur.

Not a blur is right, but scary and exhilarating with the exhilarating part taking over until you stop, then the scary part comes back.

41 posted on 09/18/2010 12:01:43 AM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

42 posted on 09/18/2010 12:03:31 AM PDT by Daaave ( "Technically I'm still alive.")
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To: JRios1968; Blue Jays

“Hitting anything at that speed would make your internal organs a pulp, rendering them unusable.”

That may be true...or maybe not.

I’ve hit a concrete wall doing 130+, and parked the car right on top of it...all four wheels airborne. I didn’t have a scratch, and wasn’t even sore. I was strapped in dang good.

However, if one doesn’t hit anything at any fast speed...it’s one heck of a ride!


43 posted on 09/18/2010 12:04:44 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: The Cajun

“...then the scary part comes back.”

Not for me! I wanted to do it again, and again!

And, I’ve done it since...and will do it every chance I get.

I’ve liked to “go fast” since I was a kid. ;o)


44 posted on 09/18/2010 12:06:37 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; dixiechick2000; Fledermaus; Squantos

I did 138 mph in a short burst two weeks ago in my 911 when a Navy jock in a Mustang GT was egging me on

and my 10 year old man child too...who was riding shotgun

and we had the top down..

on I-40 West about 1 mile east of Hermitage exit...coming down that hill from Mt Juliet by the big green water tank...he kept toying with us and my lad was mortified that dad was punking out...I was doing about 75 or so...8 lanes...and I could see open highway ahead with high divider and no troopers so I just dropped to third and nailed it for about 7-8 seconds I’d guess...roared past the GT fairly easy...those PS2s grip great on hot tarmac...I looked at the speedo and wimped and let off and got off at the exit for a Diet Dr Pepper and the pilot honked as he flew by behind me in his great value for the money GT.

this is the second time I’ve goosed it with a navy pilot in a GT...once on I-75 in north GA in the 80s...for about 50 miles at very high speeds...near top end...crazy..

anyway...cops woulda killed me and wifey too but lad was high as a kite over it for days...I’m sure his teacher knows by now..lol

that 80mph or so to 90% of the 188 top speed is where a Porsche 911 really shines...it’s just a steady sure pull of acceleration

besides a track....the only place to really do high speeds now is light traveled freeways with a spotter out front on the phone with you in daytime

TN has a new moving ticket for driving on unopened new highways...I know that ticket...had no idea...so silly

that was where we hot rodded when i was young


45 posted on 09/18/2010 12:28:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: dixiechick2000

If you drive it like an old lady, why do you have it?

Seriously...what’s the point?


LOL! Hey, do you have my sons over there egging you on?

I have the mustang cause I wanted one when I was a kid and never got one. So my husband got one for me. He drives it fast.

Tell my sons they still can’t drive my car and after you feed them, send them home.


46 posted on 09/18/2010 12:28:10 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: CORedneck

that is the fastest car for the price one can buy

great choice

i has Subaru 4-wheel wagon 30 years ago...drove it to Alaska from Mississippi


47 posted on 09/18/2010 12:30:59 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: SaraJohnson

How sweet of your husband to give you your lifelong dream.

You drive it however you want...and enjoy every minute of it.

But, don’t think for a minute that your sons will stop begging you to drive it.

It’s a man machine! ;o)


48 posted on 09/18/2010 12:34:10 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Yossarian
An old friend of a guy who knew my Brother In Laws Gardener's Fiance once owned a Red 911.

On the way to Vegas at 2 AM, this particular fellow thought it would be fun to see what the Porsche could do.

Somewhere past Zyzzyx Road, where the 15 Freeway winds through the hills, this particular person was going about 130 MPH or so while having a wonderful and exhilarating time.

Coming around a bend, this particular driver came upon an 18 Wheeler doing about 50 MPH. In the wink of an eye, or was it 1.5 seconds, this particular fellow saw his life flash before his eyes as he veered to the left and missed the rear end of the 18 Wheeler by what seemed at the time a few millimeters.

Needless to say, this incident was something that has not been repeated, except for the time I, oops he, almost hit a Cow while driving through New Mexico in the middle of the night on I-25 (I believe) while on a trip with a former girlfriend in her Galaxie 500.

Those were the days...

49 posted on 09/18/2010 12:34:25 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: wardaddy

That is awesome! Careful that children’s services don’t get ahold of that info. ;o)

Was it a Shelby GT by any chance?

You know one thing about Navy pilots? They love fast cars, but they love fast airplanes even more.


50 posted on 09/18/2010 12:38:09 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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