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Montana GOP policy: Make homosexuality illegal
Associated Press ^ | 09/18/2010 | MATT VOLZ,

Posted on 09/18/2010 12:10:48 PM PDT by presidio9

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To: Ted Grant

Wow, interesting how the article fails to make that distinction, I wonder why...


51 posted on 09/18/2010 12:56:09 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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To: rosettasister
There are lots of homosexuals in Montana.

What I don’t like about the “homosexual agenda” is that many in this group are conservatives at heart.

But they would never vote that way, because they are scared of platforms like this one.

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That's nonsense. Where do you get your information? Most homosexuals are "conservatives at heart". How on earth could you know this?

52 posted on 09/18/2010 12:56:35 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: rosettasister
What I don’t like about the “homosexual agenda” is that many in this group are conservatives at heart.
But they would never vote that way, because they are scared of platforms like this one

Bullshit. They are voting for EXACTLY what they want; their abnormal behavior to be "protected" and flaunted at their will....

53 posted on 09/18/2010 12:56:37 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: rosettasister
Then you have a problem with George Washington.

The Writings of George Washington from the Original Manuscript Sources, 1745-1799

At a General Court Martial whereof Colo. Tupper was President (10th March 1778) Lieutt. Enslin28 of Colo. Malcom's Regiment tried for attempting to commit sodomy, with John Monhort a soldier; Secondly, For Perjury in swearing to false Accounts, found guilty of the charges exhibited against him, being breaches of 5th. Article 18th. Section of the Articles of War and do sentence him to be dismiss'd the service with Infamy. His Excellency the Commander in Chief approves the sentence and with Abhorrence and Detestation of such Infamous Crimes orders Lieutt. Enslin to be drummed out of Camp tomorrow morning by all the Drummers and Fifers in the [Note 28: Lieut. Frederick Gotthold Enslin.] Army never to return; The Drummers and Fifers to attend on the Grand Parade at Guard mounting for that Purpose.

54 posted on 09/18/2010 12:57:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: trumandogz; TheBigIf
You may want to read the 14th Amendment.

Especially the part where it applies to behaviors.

55 posted on 09/18/2010 12:57:52 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: GregH

“not something new and has been on the GOP Montana platform for many years”

yes, designed to push buttons.

obviously Dems trying to make this an issue.

So Republicans in Montana should be prepared with a reply which will NOT alienate independent voters,


56 posted on 09/18/2010 12:58:23 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

And how smart of you to repeat the post, Einstein.


57 posted on 09/18/2010 12:58:34 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Las Vegas Ron; TheBigIf

The poster indicated that the law would only apply to sexual acts in the public arena.

SO, why not just enforce laws that prohibit all sexual acts in the public arena and let consenting adults do as they wish in the privacy of their bedroom?


58 posted on 09/18/2010 12:58:43 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hiya DJ!


59 posted on 09/18/2010 12:59:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: rosettasister
Then I guess oral and anal sex are out of the question?!

Homosexuals now perform these acts in public during parades and fairs. They need to control themselves or the law will.

60 posted on 09/18/2010 1:01:09 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Hey! How ya doin’?


61 posted on 09/18/2010 1:02:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: major-pelham

GOP should fund a project to find these things and erase them.

you are joking right?


62 posted on 09/18/2010 1:02:48 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: trumandogz

See post #60


63 posted on 09/18/2010 1:02:54 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: presidio9
I don't approve of homosexuality, but am willing to let the Lord decide the proper punishment for sin.

Even as recently as the 1960’s, the police would raid gay bars and arrest the patrons. Much as I dislike those kinds of places, the social mores they instill, and the public health consequences, I'm just enough of a libertarian to think our judicial system shouldn't be spending its time and taxpayer money arresting, prosecuting and imprisoning homosexuals.

Time is late, and there are more critical demands for limited time and resources.

64 posted on 09/18/2010 1:03:28 PM PDT by mojito
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To: TomServo

I didn’t know it had been removed.

Good.


65 posted on 09/18/2010 1:04:32 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

so are you alright with homosexuals marrying?
buying, adopting and raising children?
have it taught in schools?
alright with homosexuals holding hands and kissing in public?

Just a simple yes or no would suffice please


66 posted on 09/18/2010 1:04:36 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Great, hope you are too! ;^)

Enjoying the popcorn....

67 posted on 09/18/2010 1:05:36 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yes, both homosexual and heterosexual in public should be prohibited by law.

However, we do not need the Nanny State to monitor our private bedrooms to determine what consenting adults may be doing.


68 posted on 09/18/2010 1:05:46 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: rosettasister
Montana GOP needs to change their platform.

No they don't. FR has the same rules. Anyone pushing the homosexual agenda is out of here.

69 posted on 09/18/2010 1:05:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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That comment was removed. I, and several others complained. But,,, I wish you had not repeated it in your comment!


70 posted on 09/18/2010 1:05:52 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: trumandogz

The 14th Amendment was never intended to cover making all behavior equal though. Or making all beliefs equal either. Especially some sort of sexual belief system.

If the 14th Amendment was used to force people to accept certain behavior and thus deny them a right to have representation on how that behavior or belief was dealt with in public then it would be denying EQUAL rights to representation for ALL.

So in other words that left-wing interpretation of the 14th Amendment would be FORCING a minorities political and moral views on the majority and would be being used to deny equal rights for ALL.

Just because you can identify yourself by your behavior does not mean that your behavior deserves to have the government force everyone else to accept it.


71 posted on 09/18/2010 1:06:04 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: MHGinTN

only two posters I ignore and he is one of them


72 posted on 09/18/2010 1:06:15 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: rosettasister

I haven’t commented on the absurdity of the part of the party platform.

I suppose if the party found these acts particularly antisocial, they would seek to make those heterosexual acts illegal, too.


73 posted on 09/18/2010 1:07:22 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: NoGrayZone
Someone has to “take the first shot”. I would be honored to vote homo illegal.

And no doubt you'll be out there peeking in windows and turning them in.

74 posted on 09/18/2010 1:08:34 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Good. We have more ammo than the left does. Truth is like that. :-)


75 posted on 09/18/2010 1:08:44 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

“Homosexuals now perform these acts in public during parades and fairs.”

Yes. Again, as far as I know, functionally undisguised carnal knowledge is still illegal for both hetero and homosexuals.

Why this law is not always enforced is another issue.


76 posted on 09/18/2010 1:08:58 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: trumandogz

Because the law also prohibits them from promoting their private bedroom acts in public as well which is what perverts like you like to do in our PUBLIC areas all of the time.

Obviously you support the open expression of perversion in public. to our children and everywhere.

If it was only in private you were concerned about then there would be no need for you to post here publically about your desire to protect expression of what you do in private.


77 posted on 09/18/2010 1:09:28 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: TheBigIf

“The 14th Amendment was never intended to cover making all behavior equal though.”

Well, that is not the way Justice Kennedy saw it when he wrote the majority opinion in Lawrence v. Texas.


78 posted on 09/18/2010 1:09:57 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: rosettasister

most in this country do not want the homosexual agenda, states which have had votes have proved this.

This is still a normal traditional country, it is a shame the homosexuals and their supporters who usually say I have a homosexuals friend and they are nice cannot wake the hell up and understand that they are looked at as people who do unnatural disgusting acts to get off sexually

BTW if you are here defending homosexuality and it’s agenda then be warned you will be banned.

The GOP should not change it’s platform what so ever and as for saying homosexuals(not gay so don’t play the far lefts word game) are conservative then that is total B/S


79 posted on 09/18/2010 1:10:12 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: rosettasister

It isn’t enforced because libs have an agenda and push homosexual rights. Homosexuals need to STHU and go back in the closet. I don’t CARE what they do in private and I don’t need to see them fondling and kissing one another in public. Neither do children.


80 posted on 09/18/2010 1:11:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: presidio9

so how ya going to feel about this subject when you come home to find some old queen trying to seduce your teen aged son?


81 posted on 09/18/2010 1:11:34 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Yet it is the perverts of the left who demand the right to flaunt their sexuality in public and to push it in the face of our children.


82 posted on 09/18/2010 1:12:00 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: DJ MacWoW

LOL!


83 posted on 09/18/2010 1:12:00 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: cripplecreek
I prefer to stay the hell out of other people’s bedrooms.

Agreed, so long as they keep it in the bedroom and out of my face. The problem is that they refuse to do so.

84 posted on 09/18/2010 1:13:08 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: BenKenobi

Yes, as I read it, the title of the article is wrong - ‘homosexuality’ wouldn’t be illegal at all. It’s homosexual acts that would be illegal.

So a homosexual wandering through the jurisdiction wouldn’t be criminally culpable for being homosexual, but he or she would be potentially crimiinally culpable for engaging in particular homosexual acts in the jurisdiction.

It’s a distinction that the AP couldn’t, or wouldn’t, make.


85 posted on 09/18/2010 1:13:16 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: trumandogz
Yes, both homosexual and heterosexual in public should be prohibited by law.

Yet when homo parades are in town, police are told to overlook it......so much for your argument.

86 posted on 09/18/2010 1:13:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: cripplecreek

“I prefer to stay the hell out of other people’s bedrooms.”

Ditto.


87 posted on 09/18/2010 1:14:29 PM PDT by RAR
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To: rosettasister

You think FR’s rules are funny?


88 posted on 09/18/2010 1:14:36 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: trumandogz

And is also obviously not the way you see it either. You should take the same warning as is being given to another poster. Your promotion of a 14th Amendment that protects homosexual acts in public will get you banned.

From what I read so far from you... I’ll just say good riddens.


89 posted on 09/18/2010 1:14:49 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Ted Grant

“potentially crimiinally culpable for engaging in particular homosexual acts in the jurisdiction”

even in private?

we’ve already established that certain public acts are illegal for all parties


90 posted on 09/18/2010 1:16:30 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister

ooooh....Now your just tempting the admin mod...Not a wise thing to do...


91 posted on 09/18/2010 1:17:36 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
"And no doubt you'll be out there peeking in windows and turning them in."

For someone to have such an awful thought speaks highly of yourself.

I don't want the homo agenda forced in my face, nor the face of children in any way shape or form.

Take illegal drugs for example. I would certainly NOT want an heroin or crack addict in my schools "preaching" how normal and good it is to be an addict.

I view homo's in the same regard.

92 posted on 09/18/2010 1:18:27 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (Please Lord, give America a 2nd chance. Through your Son Jesus Christ, Amen.)
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To: NoGrayZone

/nods head


93 posted on 09/18/2010 1:19:44 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Call me when the bullets start flying.)
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To: TheBigIf

“Your promotion of a 14th Amendment that protects homosexual acts in public will get you banned.”

Sorry, but I was not one of the six Justices on the SCOTUS who voted with the majority in Lawrence v. Texas.


94 posted on 09/18/2010 1:20:21 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: rosettasister

I haven’t seen the proposed draft of the law, so I can’t say. And then there are Constitutional issues. So far, it seems that it is just a party position on a party platform, and that’s what I based my conclusions on.

I’m just basing my observations on the text of the article, not on any law (since no such law exists). You can’t establish anything about any proposed law since you haven’t seen the law yet. That has nothing much to do with what you feel ‘we’ve’ already established.


95 posted on 09/18/2010 1:20:44 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Michael Barnes

Michael

you are not my judge


96 posted on 09/18/2010 1:21:13 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: Ted Grant

I just want this clarified.

And certain public acts are outlawed


97 posted on 09/18/2010 1:22:14 PM PDT by rosettasister
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To: rosettasister; Jim Robinson
Jim Robinson Post 93

FR is a conservative site. We do not appreciate our members fighting against us on our conservative values and issues. If you wish to support homosexual marriage or homosexuals in the military or hate crimes against us for speaking out against government promotion of homosexuality that’s your business, but you’d better do it somewhere else and not on FR. If you value your posting privileges, that is. FR is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-marriage, pro-military, pro-traditional American conservatism and it is a privilege to post here. Those who support the godless liberal/Marxist destruction of our free society and our country are free to exercise their free speech rights elsewhere. I won’t stand in your way.

98 posted on 09/18/2010 1:22:21 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: rosettasister; DJ MacWoW

Would you care to explain what is so funny about DJ’s post #69?


99 posted on 09/18/2010 1:23:56 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremest use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: rosettasister

I can’t clarify what the proposed law would say. Only the political party can do that, if they try to work it through their legislature.

I don’t think that making homosexual acts illegal is a particularly good, or enforceable, idea, in any event. I was just pointing out that based on what the article said, homosexual acts would be criminalized, not the status of being a homosexual.


100 posted on 09/18/2010 1:24:11 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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