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Britain goes halal... but no-one tells the public: ritually slaughtered meat served with no warning
The Mail (UK) ^ | 18th September 2010 | Simon Mcgee and Martin Delgado

Posted on 09/18/2010 3:40:22 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

A Mail on Sunday investigation – which will alarm anyone concerned about animal cruelty – has revealed that schools, hospitals, pubs and famous sporting venues such as Ascot and Twickenham are controversially serving up meat slaughtered in accordance with strict Islamic law to unwitting members of the public.

All the beef, chicken and lamb sold to fans at Wembley has secretly been prepared in accordance with sharia law, while Cheltenham College, which boasts of its ‘strong Christian ethos’, is one of several top public schools which also serves halal chicken to pupils without informing them.

Even Britain’s biggest hotel and restaurant group Whitbread, which owns the Beefeater and Brewers Fayre chains, among many others, has admitted that more than three-quarters of its poultry is halal.

Animal welfare campaigners have long called for a ban on the traditional Islamic way of preparing meat – which involves killing animals by drawing a knife across their throats, without stunning them first – saying it is cruel and causes unnecessary pain.

Sharia law expressly forbids knocking the animal out with a bolt gun, as is usual in British slaughter­houses. Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.

The extent of halal meat consumption, even in areas of Britain with a very small Muslim population, was revealed as the Pope, on his first visit to Britain, expressed fears that the country was not doing enough to preserve traditional Christian values and customs.

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But it is animal rights groups which have been most vociferous in their opposition to halal slaughter...

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: britain; cruel; crueldom; england; greatbritain; halal; islam; moo; mooslim; muslim; obama; uk; ungland; unitedkingdom
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"Sharia law expressly forbids knocking the animal out with a bolt gun, as is usual in British slaughter­houses. Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited."

How awful: they treat innocent cattle the same way they treat us nasty infidels and apostates. :o\

The good news is that British people are finally noticing and objecting.

1 posted on 09/18/2010 3:40:27 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

This is a tough one. Side with the animal activists and groups such as PETA or with Islam and halal.


2 posted on 09/18/2010 3:43:10 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Someone please explain the difference between halal and kosher. Thanks in advance.


3 posted on 09/18/2010 3:43:31 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Good bye Britain.
Glad we Yanks got out while we could.


4 posted on 09/18/2010 3:43:59 PM PDT by counterpunch (Life in Prison: The RINO compromise to "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Somewhere, someplace, Neville is smiling....


5 posted on 09/18/2010 3:44:28 PM PDT by onona (dbada)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Great Britain is gone and we're not far behind!

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
6 posted on 09/18/2010 3:45:18 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: onona
You mean MP Enoch Powell right?

Years ago I remember somebody running his “rivers of blood” speech in here. In it's day it was mocked and now it becomes words of truth.

Amazing!

7 posted on 09/18/2010 3:46:55 PM PDT by Tea Party Reveler
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Sharia law expressly forbids knocking the animal out with a bolt gun, as is usual in British slaughter­houses. Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited."

So that the butcher can get the most sadistic pleasure from the process? WTH?

8 posted on 09/18/2010 3:47:56 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome. -- Sir Winston Churchill (The River War, first edition, Vol. II, pages 248-50 [London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1899]).
9 posted on 09/18/2010 3:47:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: counterpunch

Should be referred to as the People’s Republic of the Islamic State of England, henceforth. Peace be with you.


10 posted on 09/18/2010 3:48:25 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Not supposed to eat meat offered to idols (the moon god Allah).


11 posted on 09/18/2010 3:48:38 PM PDT by ikka
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To: 1rudeboy

To my knowledge “halal” meat is the result of allowing most of the blood to be drained by means of cutting the jugular veins
and carotid arteries of the slaughtered animal. The idea being that blood harbors germs.

Have no idea what makes anything “kosher”.


12 posted on 09/18/2010 3:51:51 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (All muslims are not terrorist, but most terrorists are muslims.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Similar, yet different.

I've had Muslim associates eat Kosher in the states when there is no other options.

Obviously, in other areas of the world, is SE Asia, Halal, is pretty much the standard.

If I could, I put a Chick-fil-a in Singapore. Talk about making a killing. Chinese, Indian[No beef], Malay. Everyone loves chicken!

That's one of the reason, KFC is so popular.

13 posted on 09/18/2010 3:52:48 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sounds like a general boycott is in order.


14 posted on 09/18/2010 3:57:24 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Maine Mariner

I’ll take PETA over Islam.


15 posted on 09/18/2010 3:59:16 PM PDT by Michel12
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To: Palter

Not everyone...

I got something like eight stitches across a couple of fingers after cleaning out a hen house and butchering something like 500 of those birds. It was the last one that “got” me, right down to the bones.

Don’t eat chicken, although I would bury them to prevent our mutts from bringing them indoors, but I do eat eggs.

Sometimes, genocide is good.


16 posted on 09/18/2010 3:59:29 PM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: benewton

Heh, I wont tell the Colonel, it’s just between us.


17 posted on 09/18/2010 4:00:38 PM PDT by Palter (If voting made any difference they wouldn't let us do it. ~ Mark Twain)
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To: Undocumented_capitalist; All

The rest of the article points out that while a lamb might bleed to death in 5 to 7 seconds, a cow might suffer for several minutes as the carotid artery spasms and holds blood in the brain and allows feeling.

I am wondering if they also cut the vessels of chickens, whereas we cut the head off, immediately ending any feeling. The rest of the article also pointed out that one establishment imports a lot of its chicken from Turkey. Will they boycott imported halal meats if the public gets serious about protesting?


18 posted on 09/18/2010 4:00:44 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: SuzyQue

The ritual slaughter in Jewish (and Muslim?) law is an ideal method of slaughter that results in the swiftest and most painless method of killing. Since Jewish dietary law also requires sanguination to prevent consumption of the blood, cutting the carotid also results in swift draining of the blood. Obviously these laws were put into place prior to chemical or electric “stunning” were available, and given the option of beating the animal to death, it was then (and still is) a humane method of slaughter.....however archaic in our hi-tech society which has found more efficient assembly line methods.


19 posted on 09/18/2010 4:04:01 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: gleeaikin

I don’t see the Brits getting serious about anything.


20 posted on 09/18/2010 4:07:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: gleeaikin

Halal won’t burt you and they do it so they can sell the meat to their vast Muslim population.

It’s not the killing that is important , but the fact that they are doing it to please their Muslim population. Each thing you do to support and stroke Muslims is another step towards their taking over.


21 posted on 09/18/2010 4:08:25 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“How awful: they treat innocent cattle the same way they treat us nasty infidels and apostates”

The Brits will tolerate plenty of Inhumanity among men or Women, But Mistreat an animal and Look out!

That actually was the Origin of the British Anti-Slavery campaign. Slaves were considered chattle and therefore it was wrong to mistreat them.

Way ahead of the Muzzies that are stuck in the Seventh Century.


22 posted on 09/18/2010 4:08:43 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Maple Lodge Farms is a big chicken processing company up here in Canada. They offer halal chicken for sale. I've personally boycotted them. Check out this halal bullshit from their website...

http://www.zabihahalal.com/standards.html

23 posted on 09/18/2010 4:09:01 PM PDT by rickmichaels (And the government shall be upon His shoulders...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; RaceBannon; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; ...

my God...they are more concerned about animal rights than their own survival and submission to islam...


24 posted on 09/18/2010 4:13:05 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; RaceBannon; stowaway; jjm2111; Mrs.LoneGOPinCT; underbyte; badbackman; Bigfitz; ...

my God...they are more concerned about animal rights than their own survival and submission to islam...


25 posted on 09/18/2010 4:14:59 PM PDT by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: Maine Mariner
I can walk to any one of 5 halal butchers ~ without effort. They generally sell DIFFERENT CUTS ~ and the chickens are slaughtered the day of sale.

It's a little different and a couple of bucks less per pound on beef ~ can't stand sheep meat though, and they don't carry pork.

26 posted on 09/18/2010 4:19:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not so much concerned over the animals, as to having some satanic death cult words said over my food...


27 posted on 09/18/2010 4:22:14 PM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: Palter

As you might expect, that works for me.


28 posted on 09/18/2010 4:26:36 PM PDT by benewton (I)
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To: rickmichaels; All

OK, this answers one of my questions. It is possible to stun the chickens before cutting their throats, but the spinal column must remain intact to facilitate the complete bleeding out of the body. I think they are saying that they are special because they do practice this more human means of slaughter.

All this talk is making lacto-ovo vegetarianism sound more desirable. ;-)


29 posted on 09/18/2010 4:28:27 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Why don’t all the girlie boys over there just end it by putting on a dresses and surrendering to the nearest mosque head chopper?
30 posted on 09/18/2010 4:36:08 PM PDT by SanFranDan
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Sharia law expressly forbids knocking the animal out with a bolt gun, as is usual in British slaughter­houses. Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.

What if non-Moslims don't want their food prayed over by mullahs to the god of Islam?

Ascot racecourse said it was easier to store and cook only one type of meat. ‘All our chicken is halal. This is not advertised as the menus are kept as simple as possible,’ said a spokesman.

A Football Association spokesman confirmed: ‘All the beef, chicken and lamb sold at Wembley Stadium is halal which means a large proportion of the meat on offer to our customers falls into this category.’ Pork, which is ­forbidden to Muslims, is also served at the stadium.

So, if one objects to meat prayed over by mullahs, or meat from animals killed in an inhumane way, it's pork or nothing.

BTW, Obama in 2001 as a state senator co-sponsored the Halal Food act, at the behest of Moslims, so the State of Illinois would enforce halal regulations. The people of Illinois aren't (as far as I know) being force to eat halal, but they being forced to pay to make sure halal food is properly prayed over.

31 posted on 09/18/2010 4:36:45 PM PDT by Inappropriate Laughter (Obama: Another illegal alien living in public housing)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.”

Moslems also do that to HUMANS.


32 posted on 09/18/2010 4:39:21 PM PDT by StopObama2012 (CLICK ME to expose Osaudi)
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To: RaceBannon
"my God...they are more concerned about animal rights than their own survival and submission to islam..."
Your right as usual. What a bunch of morons.
33 posted on 09/18/2010 4:39:26 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: gleeaikin

It is very inhumane and cruel to kill any living animal’s veins and arteries and then let it die slowly. Reminds me of bull fighting.

So yes, anything which kills the animal quickest and with least suffering is the only humane method.

But why is any one surprised about muslims. They are the only group I am aware of who regularly behead living human beings. There was a video floating around on internet about Al Qaeda beheading a hapless American whose hands and feet were tied and they cut his neck with a 4 or 5 inch knife. The poor victim was screaming his head off and then the blood made him make awful gurgling sounds as he was drowning in his own blood. These people are barbaric, fanatics, and classic definition of insane.

It is a good thing they lose every war they have fought against non-muslims in the last couple of hundred years. Less than 4 million Israeli’s beat the shit out of 100+ million Arabs in the 1967 war. The Indians have regularly beat up on Pakistani’s in the past in spite of Pakistan’s better military hardware acquired from US. They are not brave enough to fight in combat so all they can do is plant bombs like cowards and behead tied up human beings.


34 posted on 09/18/2010 4:43:22 PM PDT by Undocumented_capitalist (All muslims are not terrorist, but most terrorists are muslims.)
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To: Palter
That's one of the reason, KFC is so popular.


35 posted on 09/18/2010 4:48:14 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Compact Theory)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Ungland...
36 posted on 09/18/2010 4:48:42 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I don't know how any one can eat meat. Meat is “Suffering on a plate.” Those dirty devil muslims torture the poor animals and the devils also hate dogs. I hate them.
37 posted on 09/18/2010 4:50:52 PM PDT by GinaLolaB
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To: 1rudeboy
The following are some examples of the differences:

In Dhabh, the name of Allah has to be invoked individually on each animal to be slaughtered as follows:“Bismillah, Allahu Akbar” (In the name of Allah; Allah is the Greatest)

However, in Shechita, it is sufficient to recite the name of God or grace once for the day for all slaughters.

Jewish Bible

In Kosher slaughtering, the Sochet (Jewish slaughterman) must perform the slaughter in a single, swift, uninterrupted sweep. In Islamic slaughter, the process must be carried in a single swift sweep by a sane Muslim man or woman. However, if he/she were to raise his/her hand before the Dhabh is completed and immediately returns to the process, it would still render the Halal meat.

Islam considers the entire cattle or sheep as Halal if duly slaughtered but Jews use only the fore-quarter as Kosher and consider the hind-quarter as non-Kosher.

Kosher red wine

Meat of rabbit, shell fish, wild hens, goose, and duck are considered permissible in the eyes of the Islamic Law but they are prohibited in Kashrut.

Islam prohibits all intoxicating alcohols, liquors, wines, and drugs. However, Kashrut considers all wines Kosher.

Mixing dairy and meat is prohibited in kosher foods, but is not an issue in halal.

Gelatin is considered Kosher (regardless of its origin, even from non-Kosher animals). If the Gelatin is of non-Halal (e.g. swine) origin, then Muslims consider it as Haram.

In cheese making, the end-product is regarded as Haram if enzymes from non-Halal sources are utilised. According to Kashrut, enzymes are considered mere secretion and all cheeses are Kosher, irrespective of the sources of the enzymes, even though they may be from non-Kosher animals. Kosher and halal foods are similar: Both prohibit the use of pork, pork products and blood in food

38 posted on 09/18/2010 4:56:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("Give Kids An Education, Take Them Out Of Government Schools" - and I'm still Molly Norris")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Amen. Churchill got it right...on many levels in many ways.

It’s too bad our POTUS sent back to England the bust of Churchill that was in the Oval Office...I personally found that very strange and offensive.

Imho, Churchill was a great man destined to save his country. Was he perfect? No, but he loved England and understood history and wanted to preserve the dignity of the individual and the cultural legacy of Western Civilization - the best philosphy that this planet has or ever will produce.


39 posted on 09/18/2010 4:58:32 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: Undocumented_capitalist
Halal - The Islamic Regulations on the Import of Meat - Beef

According to Islamic law, there are the conditions required for Halal slaughter of animals and birds. (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The abattoir or factory and must be under the close and constant supervision of a Halal certifier." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The premises, machinery and equipment must be cleansed according to Islamic Sharia (law) before any production takes place." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The slaughterer must be a mature pious Muslim of sound mind who understands fully the fundamentals and conditions relating to Halal slaughter, and be approved by the religious authorities." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"Only acceptable live animals and birds can be slaughtered." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The slaughter must be done manually using a stainless steel knife." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"Facilities must be available for rinsing the knife after each kill." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The slaughterer must sever the respiratory tract, esophagus and jugular vein." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"The animal must be completely dead before skinning takes place." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

"Only Halal animals and birds are Halal Slaughtered." (El-Mouelhy, 1996)

40 posted on 09/18/2010 5:00:36 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Dhimmitude alert.


41 posted on 09/18/2010 5:07:08 PM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: 1rudeboy
Someone please explain the difference between halal and kosher. Thanks in advance.

The first is an animal sacrificed to an idol (Lucifer), and the blood is left inside for awhile. Not good.
The second, if I read it right, means no dairy has been anywhere near it. The Bible states over and over not to boil the calf in it's mothers milk, so the Jewish keep meat and dairy far apart. In fact, in a lot of Jewish kitchens there are two sinks and two stoves all with separate silverware. Plus, the blood of the animal has to be drained immediately.
I hope I got the Kosher explanation right. (I KNOW I got the halal explanation right.)

42 posted on 09/18/2010 5:40:31 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: battousai
I’m not so much concerned over the animals, as to having some satanic death cult words said over my food...

DITTO THAT!

43 posted on 09/18/2010 5:45:23 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: RaceBannon

Yep, next it will be their throats.

[Mr] T


44 posted on 09/18/2010 5:45:50 PM PDT by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Why I buy kosher as often as I can.


45 posted on 09/18/2010 6:03:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SuzyQue

Instead, it must be sentient when its throat is cut, and the blood allowed to drip from the carcass while a religious phrase in praise of Allah is recited.”

Practice for when they cut the head off an infidel.


46 posted on 09/18/2010 6:09:28 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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To: Palter
If I could, I put a Chick-fil-a in Singapore.

Used to work there (Singapore, not Chick-fil-a). Drove me nuts when people wanted to go to the food court or an American-ish (the food is different in most) fast food joint. All that great food, and you want McD? I don't eat that stuff in the US.

I did tend to hit the Ponderosa on Sunday for lunch for some reason.

47 posted on 09/18/2010 6:10:44 PM PDT by Darth Reardon (I've gotta get a pair of cat handcuffs and I gotta get 'em right away.)
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To: muawiyah
I buy a lot of halal meat from stores in my neighborhood. It's so fresh and less expensive than chain stores. Lamb is a good buy so I finally found a few recipes that actually taste good.
48 posted on 09/18/2010 6:16:21 PM PDT by neefer (Big city turn me loose and set me free.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

They will not do anything about this except moan and complain and then continue to eat their halal chicken.

They are unarmed and docile and if they haven’t overthrown their socialist idiots now bending over and spreading their collective butt cheeks for islamicists, they will not do anything about this now. Between Maggie Thatcher and the rest of them, only Maggie has a pair of stones. And it’s unfair to burden her with protecting all of them forever.


49 posted on 09/18/2010 6:39:34 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Venturer

Umm, “DO NOT EAT MEAT SACRIFICED TO IDOLS!”

Yeah, it can and does offend Christians.


50 posted on 09/18/2010 6:40:33 PM PDT by BenKenobi ("Henceforth I will call nothing else fair unless it be her gift to me")
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