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Police Call Gang-Rape Photo Sharing 'Disgusting'
CTV ^ | Sunday Sept. 19, 2010

Posted on 09/18/2010 10:10:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Police say photos of a 16-year-old girl being gang-raped at a rave in suburban Vancouver are being posted on Facebook and passed around in e-mails and text messages that one detective called "disgusting."

The teenager, who cannot be identified under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, was attending a rave along with several hundred other youths in the Vancouver suburb of Pitt Meadows last Friday night or early Saturday morning.

RCMP Const. Aaron Lloyd said that at some point during the party, the teen was given a "date rape" drug that rendered her unconscious. She was then taken out of the house where the main party was taking place and assaulted by five to seven youths.

Lloyd said several other teens watched the repeated sexual assaults on the girl and at least one of them took photographs.

A 16-year-old youth has been arrested and charged with production of child pornography.

"He not only took the photographs and distributed the photographs, he was clearly present (but) we can't say at this time for certain if he was or was not involved in the sexual assault," Lloyd said.

Cpl. Jennifer Hyland said the pictures of the rape have spread like wildfire through social networking sites and cellphones, despite attempts by police and the victim's family to stop them.

Hyland said many of the youths contacted by police were defiant when asked to stop distributing the pictures.

"They continue to be reposted by other youths who are receiving them and posting them back onto various websites, including Facebook, and are being shared amongst BlackBerrys and iPhones," she said.

"It is spreading like wildfire and our attempts to stop this victim from reliving this … it's just getting worse. The more we try to tell people to take it off the more people send it

(Excerpt) Read more at ctv.ca ...


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1 posted on 09/18/2010 10:10:15 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

How to discourage such vile behavior? Perhaps it’s finally time to bring back public hangings?


2 posted on 09/18/2010 10:12:16 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox
How to discourage such vile behavior? Perhaps it’s finally time to bring back public hangings?

Before or after the public castrations?

3 posted on 09/18/2010 10:17:09 PM PDT by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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To: Pox

Public hangings would be good.
Vigilante shootings would be better. If I were the father that’s where I would take it.


4 posted on 09/18/2010 10:17:41 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Barbour 2012)
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To: JrsyJack
Ya beat me to the public castrations, I say take it further and completely remove their so-called manhood all together. Commit the crime lose the ability to do it again...
5 posted on 09/18/2010 10:26:29 PM PDT by SledgeCS (If this is an example of a transparent government, I would hate to see what a secret one is.)
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To: JrsyJack
Either or, as long as the perps are brought to justice in full view of the public in the most expedient manner available.
6 posted on 09/18/2010 10:28:44 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: nickcarraway

Exactly the behavior expected from a school system that starts early with “sex education”— a method that removes the morality from the act and makes it meaningless.

The taking of God out of the schools and replacing Him with moral relativism (Progressive/John Dewey) destroys morality whereever it is taught.

Infiltrating curricula with cultural Marxism was intentional and it is no accident that Europeans and, then, Americans began to throw out organized religion....and adopt the Culture of Death. The Pope has written excellent encyclicals explaining the nihilism that the post-modern German philosophy wrought on all their unsuspecting victims.

The genius Nietzsche understood what they were doing in 1888 or so and called them on it.....and the abyss they would create....yes, God is dead and our children our lost.


7 posted on 09/18/2010 10:29:08 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: Artemis Webb
When necessary, I would have no problem with vigilante justice, as long as those dispensing the justice are absolutely certain they have the correct perp(s).
8 posted on 09/18/2010 10:30:20 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: Pox

Hangings are definitely in order.

Where do such creatures come from?
What twisted and deformed psyche could derive
pleasure from such an action?

I am physically ill after thinking about this. :-(


9 posted on 09/18/2010 10:33:54 PM PDT by Bobalu ( "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." ..Moshe Dayan:)
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To: nickcarraway

“He not only took the photographs and distributed the photographs, he was clearly present (but) we can’t say at this time for certain if he was or was not involved in the sexual assault”

Involved or not, this creep is every bit as vile as the rapists. Throw the book at the little dirtbag.


10 posted on 09/18/2010 10:40:05 PM PDT by DemforBush (You might think that, *I* could not possibly comment.)
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To: nickcarraway

What kind of parents let a 16-year-old girl attend a rave?


11 posted on 09/18/2010 10:43:30 PM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Bobalu

Where do such creatures come from?

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Usually a blue state with what Colin Powell called “urban values”. Not always, but usually.


12 posted on 09/18/2010 10:44:38 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP - trust, but verify.)
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To: nickcarraway

“The Children Are Our Future”????
These young people have no conscience, no humanity, no decency. They are defiant when asked to pull the pictures down because they are ‘proud’ of what they...*shudder*...did and they are incapable of remorse. I don’t think our legal system was set up to deal with ‘people’ like this. What punishment is sufficient for evil? Who created these warped beasts? Did the boy’s parents encourage conscience or congratulate ‘strength’ of predation *shudder* and evasion? I think I have to go watch some Narnia to ‘cleanse’ these thoughts from my mind. And I’ll keep the victim and her family in my prayers tonight.


13 posted on 09/18/2010 10:44:51 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: SledgeCS

I’ve been saying that forever, CUT IT OFF, no more repeat rapists, solved!


14 posted on 09/18/2010 10:53:42 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Pox
How to discourage such vile behavior? Perhaps it’s finally time to bring back public hangings?

Identify the perps in the photos, prosecute and tag them legally for life as sexual predetors.

15 posted on 09/18/2010 10:54:58 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: donna

I think most 16 year olds that go to raves lie to their parents about where they’re going. Parents need to monitor their kids, but can you really keep tabs on a 16 year old all the time? I know my parents couldn’t. Eventually, they had to sleep.


16 posted on 09/18/2010 10:55:47 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

More....

There has been another arrest in connection with the brutal gang rape of a 16-year-old girl in Pitt Meadows early Saturday morning, photos of which continue to spread online.

Ridge Meadows RCMP Insp. Derren Lench said police arrested an 18-year-old man at 3 p.m. Thursday in connection with the case.

The suspect was released from custody a few hours later under a number of conditions, including that he have no contact with the victim or other witnesses.

Lench said it will take some time, possibly as long as a month, for police to forward a report to Crown prosecutors. The suspect’s name will only be released once he is formally charged.

Lench said at this time police are only planning to charge the man with sexual assault but added, as their investigation continues, more charges could be forthcoming.

“Possibly admission of a noxious substance, unlawful confinement,” he said.

This is the second arrest in the case, after a 16-year-old boy was arrested on Tuesday for photographing the assault and uploading the photos to Facebook.

He is expected to face charges of distributing child pornography but those charges have not yet been laid.

Photographs of the girl’s assault were shared on Facebook and are “spreading like wildfire” on the Internet according to police.

At a news conference in Maple Ridge on Friday, Lench said police have been in touch with Facebook about keeping the photos off its system and are also working with the Ministry of Education to prevent the spreading of the photos on school computers.

Lench said police believe the message is getting out that possession of the photos is a crime — possession of child pornography — and parents are pressuring their kids to stop sending the photos around.


17 posted on 09/18/2010 10:58:29 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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To: Boogieman

And like my dad told me...what ever happens to you if you sneak out then dont come home whining about it.....I wonder if her parents told her the same thing...maybe they should have


18 posted on 09/18/2010 10:59:43 PM PDT by skaterboy (Hate=Love....Love=Hate)
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To: nickcarraway
Calling all men. I place most of the blame at the feet of absent and/or disengaged fathers.

Rapists have raped since the fall of man. Fathers are expected to protect and raise up daughters armed to behave with discernment.

What the hell was a 16 year old doing at a rave?

By the way, I'm not blaming the victim; I'm blaming the father. Since I really don't give a rat's ass, flame away.

19 posted on 09/18/2010 11:03:25 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: donna

parents permissive or not

a gang rape is inexcusable

but was it a rape or a bang?

that happened in my day...some girls liked multiple partners.
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I have no clue of the facts here but today any teen sex where girl takes on a number of peer males is seen as rape

it’s schizophrenic...we tart the stew out of girls and then give them the out of a rape or assault claim if they go porn queen and get caught


20 posted on 09/18/2010 11:04:29 PM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: ransomnote

A friend mentioned a 12-year old girl at school and her facebook page. She pressed the “Like” button or whatever it is that said something like “Rape is more like surprise sex.”

I would hope this 12-year old just didn’t understand the meanings - but....

And who the heck would come up with that thought in the first place!

I have told my daughters that they need to be careful and not put themselves into these types of situations. And told them it’s just like they were little with our pet dog. “I know you’re just having fun, and he would never mean to hurt you - but he is a dog, and he may bite you just because he is a dog. And I would put him down because of it.”


21 posted on 09/18/2010 11:06:03 PM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

I disagree. I see no reason for them to continue living and the sooner such vermin are exterminated, the better, IMO.


22 posted on 09/18/2010 11:09:27 PM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: ransomnote
There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother.

There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes! and yet is not washed from their filthiness

There is a generation O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids lifted up

There is a generation whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, go devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy among men (Pr.30:11-14)

23 posted on 09/18/2010 11:16:59 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: ransomnote
Who created these warped beasts?

In the 1920s, Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci advanced the idea of using sexual depravity to destroy the nuclear family in order to build a society ready for communism. It was a popular idea among the communist elite. Heck, Hollywood was pushing the limits of probity as early as the 1930s. Gramsci's theories were picked up by prominent German communists of the Frankfurt School. When Hitler kicked them out, they came to Roosevelt's America (his administration was already heavily infested with communist sympathizers) to find high places in the university hierarchy. But the real kicker was when the Marxist educated scions of the Rockefeller fortune funded a sadomasochistic homosexual pedophile, Alfred Kinsey, to redefine "normal" sexual behavior. Armed with the cloak of "science" defined by the psychological profession, foundation-funded lawyers then forced it into schools. Meanwhile, the media simultaneously poured the newly redefined standards of behavior into every home, ad nauseum.

The rest was a matter of time.

24 posted on 09/18/2010 11:20:59 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: nickcarraway

And where were the parents?

Aw geez, that doesn’t even sound like a real question any more.


25 posted on 09/18/2010 11:21:13 PM PDT by kimmie7 (THE CROSS - Today, Tomorrow and Always!)
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To: donna

What are the chances that teenagers tell their parents they’re going to a rave?


26 posted on 09/18/2010 11:23:55 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Bobalu

God Bless America.


28 posted on 09/18/2010 11:35:25 PM PDT by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: 21twelve

There’s a book titled ‘Unhooked’ that I read and it took a few weeks to get the shocked look off my face (http://www.amazon.com/Unhooked-Young-Women-Pursue-Delay/dp/B001A5UV8K/ref=sr_1_1?s=gateway&ie=UTF8&qid=1284876686&sr=8-1)
In it, young people are bathed in a society (ours) so alien and backward that it takes awhile...well...to get the shocked look off your face. It’s a research study of high schoolers and college women and what they have been raised to believe and expect. The women’s lib movement said that women are not just sexual objects but are persons with careers, aspirations etc. The current ‘movement’ among young women is to be seen as equal to men in aggression (including sexual) and casual and indifferent about sex in order to fight the stereotype that women want love from men (which is seen as weak, gullible foolishness) at the same moment men want sex from women (refers to the dating scene). In this new scenario - young women try to saunter around seducing or being seduced without a backward glance (rugged, macho detachment, no emotional entanglements). So you have Lady Gaga walking around nearly nude or dressed in raw meat - this is an extension of sexual aggression and the desire to be sexual in the same way that young teen men are or want to be seen as fearlessly sexual and impervious to emotional entanglements. So on the topic of rape, I can see that young women and girls are ‘talking tough’ and ‘posing’ as sexually experienced and fearless. That’s Lady Gaga’s claim - she’s fearless. I believe our young people are saturated with fear and are dreaming up new ways to look fearless as we speak (or write). So that sick ‘like’ button on FB was probably a pose to imply that one is sexually adventurous, willing, and fearless - unafraid of even such crimes as rape (sets them apart from their mothers generation, doesn’t it?) I remember meeting a 22 year old woman who said she was sexually assaulted while traveling in India - she paused and looked coolly over her shoulder at me while saying “But I was too mature to let something like that bother me.” Her comment was intended to wipe the look of compassion off my face - I could tell the assault did bother her very much but it was important to her that she be seen as invulnerable, fearless, above emotional pain etc.

The posting of young people clicking a ‘like’ button about rape of course has nothing to do with reality - either their own level of personal fear or their own misconception of rape. I think it is meant to sexually outrage in a time that has maxed out, run out of, topics of sexual outrage. I believe the young feel preyed upon but desperate not to ‘get hurt’ or ‘get involved’ and most of all, want to be accepted. Strange, sick world unlike any I recall. In the book I mentioned - the college co-eds saw no point in dating and would be baffled if asked out on a date - asking each other WHY would he WANT to...to..date? Caution if you try the book - it’s as explicit as it is depressing. But I am glad I read it because I’d never have guessed the changes in our society without that shocking wake up call.


29 posted on 09/18/2010 11:40:32 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Carry_Okie

I always wonder why the left can’t seem to get children sexually active soon enough................


30 posted on 09/18/2010 11:42:04 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: nickcarraway
Police Call Gang-Rape Photo Sharing 'Disgusting'

To me this is a very strange headline. The news is that (1) a gang rape happened, and (2) photos of it are being shared on Facebook. The news is not that the police found it disgusting. Anyone would.

31 posted on 09/18/2010 11:42:34 PM PDT by AZLiberty (Yes, Mr. Lennon, I do want a revolution.)
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To: KJC1; dixiechick2000; Black Agnes; Squantos

you’ve got comprehension issues amongst others

go back and try to read it again where I prefaced by saying that:

1) bad parents is no excuse for raping a girl in reply to those asking what sort of parents let a girl go to a rave

2) yes I don’t know the facts and neither do you..but that is precisely why I asked what i did

3) I asked if this is a real rape or a gang bang with pics?

4) I don’t know anymore than you do unless you were there but I do know that today we often call teen stupidity rape

5) and we call it rape when an 18 year old has sex with a 16 year old...or even at times a 17 year old...

6) I think it’s all nutty in this hypersexed world where we excuse extreme promiscuity as rape...I saw with my own eyes as a teen in the 70s..girls have sex with as many as 5-10 boys at a time just cause they just wanted to

7) and I wondered if this was a forced rape or that...many feminists and maybe you too in today’s culture think a young woman...especially if drinking has sex with multiple partners voluntarily that it really is rape or assault given the unseemliness of it all...this is just a generational observation I’ve noted and I have seen it used to try to ruin a young man’s life for participating and on the age thing...I guess my 17 year old grandfather raped my 15 year old grandmother in 1923 on their wedding night by these parameters some now hold as the gold standard of what is rape

and then you go ape goofy with self righteous indignation.....

my pics are on my profile here:

6’5” and 235...not exactly svelte I agree but fat...not by today’s Big Gulp measurements

bald with bad combover...sorry...full head of hair

small pecker as you call it...it’s usually called penis in polite company........well...I ain’t exactly Rocco Siffredi I admit but I can see it without leaning over and it looks like it’s gotten bigger with age ...gravity and all...and it was big enough to bring forth 5 wonderful little humans into this big world and I’ve never had a woman complain about it so I think “small” is a bit harsh

now run along now and try to nice in the future

if you need further confirmation feel free to ping or freepmail my wife freeper Sweet Virginia and ask her for the real skinny...chick to chick you know


32 posted on 09/18/2010 11:54:05 PM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: Boogieman; skr

You’re either a good parent or you’re not. There are no excuses.


33 posted on 09/18/2010 11:59:06 PM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: wardaddy; KJC1

KJC1...that was a tacky reply to wardaddy.

I understood his post. I hope you will reread it, and reply to him again.

He’s a nice...goodlooking...guy with five kids and a very beautiful wife. He respects and loves the heck out of all of them...and takes very good care of them.

I hope you will reconsider your posting...


34 posted on 09/19/2010 12:04:31 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: ransomnote

“I believe the young feel preyed upon but desperate not to ‘get hurt’ or ‘get involved’ and most of all, want to be accepted. Strange, sick world unlike any I recall.”
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Thanks for the informative (and scary - I’m a dad of three teenagers!) post. Although that sentence you wrote (above) is probably how it has always been. Just different ways of coping with it. And now the way to “cope” with it is to “just do it” with no strings attached. I hope that my kids will stay on the right path. We have lots of bad examples to point out to them on how just one poor choice can change your life.


35 posted on 09/19/2010 12:06:05 AM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: donna

“You’re either a good parent or you’re not. There are no excuses.”

Well, I’m glad you’re not working for child welfare. I have a feeling we’d need more orphanages than prisons.


37 posted on 09/19/2010 12:10:35 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: KJC1

that’s pretty rich coming from someone who doesn’t know me from Adam saying I had a combover and a small Willie because I had the temerity to ask was this forced rape or a rave addled gang bang

that hardly makes me Ted Bundy

btw....that was classic feline Passive Aggressiveness....are you southern?

did you know my mother?

lol


38 posted on 09/19/2010 12:13:36 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: KJC1; wardaddy; All

This is what Admin Mods get for reading threads, we stumble across a particularly ugly comment such as the one you just posted. You were way out of line. That type comment does not belong on Free Republic.

Now apologize to wardaddy and while you’re at it, apologize to all who might have seen it. Don’t do it again.


39 posted on 09/19/2010 12:23:26 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: KJC1

Leave. Now.


41 posted on 09/19/2010 12:27:31 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Boogieman

You can’t even admit that her father and mother should have loved her enough to stop her from going to such a dangerous place. That is just sad.


42 posted on 09/19/2010 12:32:46 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: wardaddy
"...we tart the stew out of girls and then give them the out of a rape or assault claim if they go porn queen and get caught"

From the aticle, it appears that the girl wasn't participating...possibly slipped a drug of some sort. This is not to say that our girls and guys are not being pushed to be overly sexually agressive at much too young an age...because they are..and they are paying too dear a price for it IMHO.

43 posted on 09/19/2010 12:39:14 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Admin Moderator

You don’t know how much I appreciate what all of the Mods do.

I know...that sounds like I’m being a suck up...but I really mean it.


44 posted on 09/19/2010 12:40:10 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: KJC1
"I do believe this is the first time in almost 6 years on FR I’ve had a post removed."

You are wrong in that belief.

45 posted on 09/19/2010 12:43:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: nickcarraway

This is heartbreaking and it makes me so angry. The poor girl.

I also feel bad for the people who do not want to see the images but are receiving them anyway. I can’t imagine opening up an email like that. They need to turn in the people forwarding them.


47 posted on 09/19/2010 12:55:33 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: donna

I can’t find anything that says these parents knew she was at a rave. My parents never called in the middle of the night when I was at a slumber party; they never had reason to. If these parents never had reason to before, how are they bad parents when a 16-year-old decides to do something stupid? Teenagers do have responsibility for their decisions.


48 posted on 09/19/2010 12:55:56 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: kimmie7
Late 80’s, “party of the year”, rural locale, 50- 100 drinking teenagers, I'm in HS, my father shows up and I hear him yelling at kids and asking where I am or if I'm there. He finds me and tells me to get in the car— NOW or he'll drag me there in front of everyone. Talk about embarrassed! He was 6'4’’ with a booming voice to match. I was never going to talk to him again. To top it off we get home and he calls the police because of what he saw in just picking me up. Now I know my social life is over — until the next morning and the news is talking about THE party that ended up in a DWI fatality and a rape arrest. Years later women who were my friends at the time, at the party, thank my dad for calling the police, as it was quickly “spiraling out of control”.

With every kid having a cell phone today, it amazes me, actually makes me sad, that not one of them used it to call 911 instead of taking pictures. Just would have taken one decent person. Even at that party back in the 80’s I would have called the police if I had seen any type of assault going on. As a mom with two girls, one approaching the teen years you better bet I'll know where they are. But you're right so many parents just don't want to look “uncool” to their own kids. Or worse they just don't care.

49 posted on 09/19/2010 12:57:43 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Pox

Well, I would have a hard time controlling myself if I came face to face with them. I share your feelings regarding how disgusting and vile they are. But, we live in a world of laws and it sounds like the law is going to go after them.


50 posted on 09/19/2010 1:07:51 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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