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Police Call Gang-Rape Photo Sharing 'Disgusting'
CTV ^ | Sunday Sept. 19, 2010

Posted on 09/18/2010 10:10:12 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: wardaddy

It’s sounds like rape. Physical injuries and loss of memory are typical of GHB dosing. We have had several publicized incidents like this in SoCal in recent years.

I heard rumors of ‘trains’ back when I was in high school, same as you. It’s nothing new, voluntary depravity mixed with alcohol. What is new are cell phone cameras, the internet, and date rape drugs. It makes a whole new world of small scale evil possible.


51 posted on 09/19/2010 1:13:47 AM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: MacMattico

Sounds like the movie “Uncle Buck”!

There is a family down the street with a son. It’s been quite a few years now, but he had been at a rave, and then he and his housemates and boyfriends/girlfriends went back to their house to continue the party. Although it sounded like a fairly restrained thing - just some more drinks and music.

Except some stanger at the rave was invited back to the house. After an hour of hanging out with his new “friends” the guy (twenties) went out to his car and came back with numerous weapons. Killed something like 6 kids. The son helped his girlfriend (and himself) escape out a bathroom window.

I forget what the psycho’s “reasoning” was. If he felt left out, or if he thought the raves were the devil’s work, etc. Seems he had been seen at previous raves.

What’s the saying - nothing good every happens after midnight?


52 posted on 09/19/2010 1:20:32 AM PDT by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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To: Earthdweller

I was just commenting and asking the qustion...don’t have enough info...did not mean to start WWIII...over my own anatomy..lol


53 posted on 09/19/2010 1:23:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: Pelham; Black Agnes
yes and drugs...particularly Ecstasy are common at raves and supposedly Ecstasy makes folks uninhibited and carnal enhanced

for the record..in my day it was Quaaludes

and though I indeed witnessed voluntary sexual groupings I was not a participant

it just didn't set well with me to see women quite so vulnerable/exposed even if they did instigate it or want it to happen and I didn't like being around other naked boys much either..seemed sorta gay...Jocks seemed most likely to "train"

that sort of thing was rather common in the 70s ..folks were just into it and the drugs were there

i have no evidence that happened here but I thought it as reasonable question given just the tidbit I read on the opening paragraph

another thing...working around a lot of younger folks who are in my employ....girls today...many of them...send out naked pics and lewd suggestions to men they have never slept with as an invite at the drop of the hat...it's astounding what I see ...we have so ruined women...and I like women..and appreciate appropriate nudity and sensuality....think Summer of 42 or something like that or Playboy or maybe Diane Lane in Unfaithful...now that is hot without being coarse and too demeaning

but today it's like Caligula's Barge for way too many young folks

women are a hypersexed “acting” and tarty and men seem efette...weird as hell

women have become more like boys were in my day in sexual aggression and men have become like women...sissy looking

BA, we always talk about this physical degeneration of boys

54 posted on 09/19/2010 1:35:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: JrsyJack
Deterring crime doesn't come from the barbarity of the punishment, but from the certainty of it.

The kids who committed this disgusting crime are reasonably confident they live in a society where they will not be held accountable, or that if they are, the consequences will be far less severe than the guidelines of the law provide.

That being said, I'm not exactly against the idea of public castrations, so long as it's a single flush cut, not a double-snip.

55 posted on 09/19/2010 2:33:28 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: skr
Teenagers do have responsibility for their decisions.

Their brains aren't even done growing. The law won't let them sign contracts. You know this, right? Ever heard of parents "raising" their kids. Checking on them and making sure where they are and what they are doing...the duties of a parent?

I'm afraid your attitude is the common one now days.

56 posted on 09/19/2010 2:39:18 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Bobalu

Me too. they have to nail every last bastard involved.


57 posted on 09/19/2010 2:43:27 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: donna

Your parents called your friends’ homes at 3 a.m. just to check on you?


58 posted on 09/19/2010 3:17:36 AM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: donna

>> What kind of parents let a 16-year-old girl attend a rave?

Congratulations. With that simple statement you went straight to the heart of the matter.

Same could be said for the parents of everyone who attended that “rave”.


59 posted on 09/19/2010 3:54:06 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: nickcarraway

At least one of them took photographs,a bust to ensue soon I hope.


60 posted on 09/19/2010 4:39:42 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Boogieman

My parents didn’t have to worry much about me. My Dad made it very clear I had to come home sometime. ;0)


61 posted on 09/19/2010 5:24:07 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: wardaddy
"...did not mean to start WWIII...over my own anatomy..lol"

I didn't know you could get the energy to start a world war over a part of your anatomy. Wow...now maybe I finally know why they call them go nads and over ee's. (LOL...just trying to lighten up the atmosphere around here)

62 posted on 09/19/2010 6:48:39 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: ransomnote

“These young people have no conscience, no humanity, no decency. “

...yes...and if they votre, they will vote for libs.


63 posted on 09/19/2010 7:09:41 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: ransomnote

“These young people have no conscience, no humanity, no decency. “

...yes...and if they vote, they will vote for libs.


64 posted on 09/19/2010 7:09:56 AM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: wardaddy

Sad when people lose a debate, can’t debate or fail to agree to disagree and resort to personal insults.

Sorry I was late to your defense buddy...... I was a few shots of crown into a nap when ya pinged me.......:o)

Looks like the mods fixed the idiot in a right proper manner.

Stay Safe ........


65 posted on 09/19/2010 7:53:12 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: gunsequalfreedom
In a civilized society where justice is equal and swift, I agree with you.

When our justice system and social composition deteriorates, undoubtedly due to weak and partial leadership coupled with declining morality, you get to the point that vigilantism starts to gain a foothold, and what's left of society begins to take matters into it's own hands.

66 posted on 09/19/2010 8:17:15 AM PDT by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: donna

“You can’t even admit that her father and mother should have loved her enough to stop her from going to such a dangerous place. That is just sad.”

I think I made it very clear that I thought the parents probably had no idea she was going to such a place. Short of chaining your kid to a radiator at night, how do you suggest a parent could stop a 16 year old from going somewhere they want to go without telling their parents?


67 posted on 09/19/2010 10:10:49 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Earthdweller

lol...my juevos are legendary...in my own mind


68 posted on 09/19/2010 10:16:50 AM PDT by wardaddy (Yes..to race baiters and self righteous type folks here....I am indeed Satan. I confess.)
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To: Squantos

LOL...I don’t think I’ve ever been accused of that litany of personal shortcomings...not even by my ex-slattern

I just wanted you to see it...it was bizarro.

Someone pinged the mod who pitched in...nice to be on the winning side mod wise for a change

;>)


69 posted on 09/19/2010 10:20:17 AM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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To: ransomnote
I always wonder why the left can’t seem to get children sexually active soon enough................

If they have the kid they get on welfare. If they don't, an adult with a history of abortions and STDs is a candidate for very expensive infertility treatment. It's the same reason the left wants women held in school forever and then working. They are more unlikely to settle and start families, thence to have fewer children.

70 posted on 09/19/2010 10:24:35 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The fourth estate IS the fifth column.)
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To: wardaddy

you’re in rare form wardaddy...you dished out a double barrel whoopin and it looks like only the crime scene is left


71 posted on 09/19/2010 10:30:57 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: Grizzled Bear

I don’t think this girl’s father is absent or uninvolved.
And other news sources say the girl was drugged.


72 posted on 09/19/2010 10:47:55 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: stainlessbanner

lol...that may have been the most unusual attack I’ve ever encountered here in 10 years

and me being defended by the Admin Moderator was nice...I confess

I don’t know who called them in..you know me...we’ve honed our blades on enough southern threads..lol


73 posted on 09/19/2010 10:49:06 AM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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To: skr; Boogieman

You all sure are riled up. Guilty conscience?


74 posted on 09/19/2010 11:29:44 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Nervous Tick

It’s 10pm, do you know where your children are?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh17XpEpmzU


75 posted on 09/19/2010 11:36:38 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: donna

“You all sure are riled up. Guilty conscience?”

Lol. I don’t have any children, and I’ve never been raped or raped anyone. Nice try though.


76 posted on 09/19/2010 11:54:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wardaddy

She was drugged. We dont know if she did took it willingly or not. If she didn’t, then it was rape and you will want to modify your comment I think. I do agree to some extent with your defense of males but only in a very reserved manner.


77 posted on 09/19/2010 8:35:29 PM PDT by nuf said (I am, therefore I think.)
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To: nuf said

I never defended othe boys in question at all..not once.

I asked if it was the case of a forced rape or a gang bang with pics on the internet.

That’s it.

There was not one iota of defense of anything.

I related my own observations over the decades of how this things turn. I have seen these sorts of things get twisted on the boys. A willing girl gets caught or exposed and now suddenly it’s rape and she was compromised somehow and the media has a frenzy. We don’t know for sure that could not have happened here. I find fault whereby some claim that an 18 year old having sex with a 16 year old is rape...that is preposterous.

As to the facts...no one knows for sure but I guess more will come out. It could be a forced rape which is a serious felony and prosecuted as such or it could be something different...I have not seen the videos nor wish to. We can let the jury decide.


78 posted on 09/20/2010 12:58:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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To: wardaddy

>a gang rape is inexcusable
but was it a rape or a bang?<

The news accounts say the photos prove the young girl was unconscious at the time of the crime. Unconscious people do not give their permission for multiple animals to rape them.

Do a google search for “roofies”. A young person can innocently be drinking a soda, and can put it down momentarily. This gives animals such as the ones in this news account just enough time to drug the young woman. The most commonly used substance is called Rohyphenol. One of its effects is amnesia.


79 posted on 09/20/2010 8:05:28 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: wardaddy

“I asked if it was the case of a forced rape or a gang bang with pics on the internet.”

Same thing. “Voluntary” submission to something that stupid is almost proof that the person was not able to give consent. Any man who engages in that is asking for trouble.


80 posted on 09/20/2010 8:13:41 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy

Not saying that happened this case but I don’t agree that forced rape and a girl running a train are the same thing.

Not even.

We will just have to disagree.


81 posted on 09/20/2010 9:26:54 AM PDT by wardaddy (We are on a roll like I have never seen.)
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