Skip to comments.$10,000 Reward In Koran Burning Case [East Lansing, Michigan]
Posted on 09/18/2010 11:56:52 PM PDT by Cindy
SNIPPET: " It was found at the front door of the Islamic Center of East Lansing."
SNIPPET: "The department is offering $10,000 for any information that would lead to the identification and prosecution of those responsible for this act.
Those with information are asked to call Det. Sherief Fadly..."
(Excerpt) Read more at wlns.com ...
“East Lansing, Michigan Police Department offers $10,000 reward in Qur’an-burning case”
(Posted September 18, 2010)
Prosecution for littering?
Is this a joke? And, with WHAT is the person going to be charged??? AND, whose money is the $10,000 - taxpayers?
“Prosecution for littering?”
That’s what I want to know.
What is the crime, that would justify a $10,000 reward?
What is the penalty for this crime?
Something in this story is left out and it does not pass the smell test.
Burning a Quran in public is improper disposal of garbage, at best.
I am for burning everything you want (bible, quran, flag, pictures of leaders etc) and this is ridiculous, where’s the threat to justify a $10K reward?
From the comments at the article, the following draws attention to an ominous similarity in all of these cases:
“Those with information are asked to call Det. Sherief Fadly at 517-319-6814.”
“Sherief Fadly — as “undaunted” noted above, likely a Muslim. Or an islamochristian dhimmi. Either way, it’s one sign of thousands of the increasing insinuation and infiltration of Islam into our institutions.
“This story reminds me of the case in New York three years ago when a student at Pace University had allegedly flushed a Koran down the toilet was hunted diligently down by the local police and in the end was forced to perform 300 hours of community service — and guess what the detective’s name who pursued the complaint in that case? Detective Faisal Khan.
“And we all remember the arrest by Dearborn police of Christians at the Dearborn, Michigan Muslim “Fair” this past summer. Guess what the name is of the Dearborn Chief of Police? Ronald Haddad.
“Or we have seen in Rotterdam, one of the largest cities in the Netherlands, many such incidents — such as this case where a man in Rotterdam was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that had ‘No Jihad in a Rotterdam street’ printed on it. Guess what the name is of the mayor of Rotterdam? Ahmed Aboutaleb.
“All this is not to say, of course, that we don’t have our own home-grown PC MC dhimmis who have proven themselves quite capable on their own of facilitating the increasing infiltration of Islam in the West.”
Somebody needs to tell the cops that I shaved my beard this morning.I mean if they’re going to chase someone down for burning a Koran.....might as well go all the way.
msg to self... call on Monday
I’m Charles Martel.
Hat Tip to Jihad Watch poster Annie Oakley for posting a link to the update.
Note: The following text is a quote:
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Police Identify Individual Responsible for Quran Desecration
Police have positively identified the individual responsible for the desecration of the Quran on Saturday, Sept. 11.
The individual voluntarily surrendered to police officials on Wednesday, Sept. 15 following the establishment of a $10,000 reward fund. None of the reward funds were paid out to obtain the information leading to the individuals identity. The individual continues to cooperate with police and FBI officials. The investigators have determined that this was an isolated incident.
It is expected that the police investigation will be completed early next week. The case will be forwarded to the Ingham County Prosecutors Office for review. No further information will be released until a decision is made about filing charges.
No, I am Spartacus!
Oops, I misread, I thought I would get $10,000 reward for burning a Koran, which I now do for free.
Note: Video included.
“Arrest made in Quran burning in East Lansing”
EAST LANSING, Mich. (WXYZ) -
SNIPPET: “Police say the suspect surrendered voluntarily on Wednesday after he saw a $10,000 reward issued for his capture.
He is reportedly cooperating with police and the FBI and is under investigation for a possible hate crime.
It will be up to prosecutors to decide if any charges should be filed.”
What’s the crime?
They just want to know who did it.
So they can have him and his family beheaded.
NEVER help that community. It will backfire on you and your loved ones.
Mrs. Prince of Space
Adding a few more details to post no. 17:
“Police identify suspect in Quran burning in East Lansing”
By TODD A. HEYWOOD 9/17/10 7:45 AM
SNIPPET:”... the man turned himself into authorities, reports the Lansing State Journal. The man lives in the Lansing area.
The individual recounted specific information about the incident which police had kept under wraps, and the man continues to cooperate with police, an ELPD spokesperson says. The person is not in custody and police expect to turn over their reports to Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III early next week.
Dunnings will determine if a crime was committed and whether or not enough evidence exists to prosecute that crime.”
SNIPPET: “The Council for American Islamic Relations has called the incident a hate crime.”
“and the man continues to cooperate with police, an ELPD spokesperson says. The person is not in custody”
Let me guess: Look, we can arrest you or you can cooperate and go home for now.
$10,000 dollar reward but even the DA doesn’t know what crime he should be charged with.
All they wanted was his name so they can behead him.
“$10,000 dollar reward but even the DA doesnt know what crime he should be charged with.”
At most, something on the order of criminal mischief which is a misdemeanor.
“All they wanted was his name so they can behead him.”
The Tawana Brawley case comes to mind. Could a Muslim burn a Koran in service to Jihad?
[Cartman: "Hey, cool! Yeah! I broke the dam too -(heh heh)]
I am Sparticus.
What is interesting is the mantra of the legal system in this country is that when determining whether a particular act incites to the point that free speech is overweighed by danger of incitement to violence is “the reasonable man standard”. The issue isn’t whether someone might be incited to violence, it is whether a “reasonable person” might be so incited.
I have watched as everyone reacted to Pastor Jones’ threat and especially the Supreme Court Justice who opined an exception in the usual free speech legal reasoning for burning the Koran. Whatever justification that Justice considers for such a restriction, it is wrong. If he is considering international reaction to the act, then he is subordinating our laws to international laws and sensibilities. If he is just considering public reaction here, then he is instituting Shari’ah law.
In times past, this country also had people who violently reacted to criticism or desecration of religious standards. But as our nation civilized itself, the “reasonable man” was slowly pressured not to react violently. This is why free speech encompasses burning the Bible or other sacred texts of Christianity or the flag: because the American “reasonable man (and woman)” will keep it in perspective (as you do) and not react violently.
If, however, we decide that today’s “reasonable man” includes hypersensitive Muslims, then we have changed the definition of an American, imported cultural changes to our law, and, indeed, adopted Shari’ah which imposes a higher standard on non-Muslims than Muslims.
We need to be able to officially tell Muslims in this country, they are here as guests and must adopt the American “reasonable man” code of behavior which includes tolerance of disrespect of our faith. Anything less, like this “reward”, is dhimmitude.
Meant, in that last paragraph, to say “tolerance of disrespect of THEIR own faith.” It’s early here on the West Coast and my fingers are more awake than my brain.
Would there be any news if someone burned a bible and threw it on the steps of a Baptist church?
I didn’t think so.
Gummint has ZERO authority to offer a “reward” in this case.
Government is supposed to protect the rights of man. It is a collective defense, in a way.
Government has authority to get involved when A MAN’S (or a WOMANS) life or liberty is threatened or damaged.
Government has NO RIGHT to get involved if it is A MATTER OF OPINION!!!
People don’t even seem to have a clue anymore about what is what...
I wonder if wearing a “Charles Martel” T-shirt with “Tours 733 A.D., Christianity Rocks!” would be considered a hate crime.
“Nuke Mecca Now!”
I see all these women wearing the hijab in public, so I want to make a shirt that says something like, “Beauty should not submit.” or something like that.
The best toilets have the biggest “throats”. Almost all toilets have throats between 2 and 2 1/2-inches wide. It must have been a cute little tiny koran.
What’s the fine for wiping my *** with a page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for eating a page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for making a paper airplane from sa page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for telling my unholy koran that I don’t like it? Sheesh!
It was a Moslem trying to create a hate crime. Where do I pick up my 10 grand?
Reminds me of when Kennedy went to Berlin and said, we are all berliners.
Well we all burned that damnable Koran and threw it on the steps of this house of Satan.
Come on Det. Sherief Fadley and arrest us all ya dope.
Morning Cindy, hope U B doing well.
Might I add that the people through their contract, the US Constitution, with their government have given the government through both houses of congress the authority to establish courts, appoint judges and make laws that are to be enforced by those courts.
NOWHERE in the constitution does it give any PRIVATE organization or RELIGION the judicial authority to deprive any American of his life, liberty, property or due process of law unless granted by the laws of the United States and individual states and even then those laws still must pass constutional muster.
The individuals offering such rewards and are complicit in the intimidation or prosecution of any book burners need to cite where under the constitution they are granted the specific authority or be swiftly prosecuted, incarcerated and/or given substantial fines. And, that goes for the FBI or any governmental organization for their abuse of authority.
It's too early in the morning for me to get into all the issues this raises, and they are numerous, but I couldn't contain myself when I read this post! My hope is I got some of the points across to start people thinking about what's transpiring.
So, if you buy an American flag and burn it in public, it’s free speech, but if you buy a Koran and burn it in public, it’s a felony?
I also think this would have had more validity had they assigned Det. Joe Smith to investigate.
It was Virg Benero...
I note that the news release fails to mention any identifying characteristics of the person who turned himself in. Could it be because he was Middle-Eastern and wanted to foment faux outrage? Could it be that he “turned himself in” because the local Imam told him to make a deal and keep it quiet because the backlash if this were to become public would be very heated?
Inquiring minds want to know.
. . . what’s the reward for information leading to an arrest of those responsible for the placing of a crucifix in a vat of urine ?
Be gone! I’m His Royal Highness Phillip the Second of Spain. :-)
Oil Sheik money.
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The individual voluntarily surrendered to police officials on Wednesday, Sept. 15 following the establishment of a $10,000 reward fund. None of the reward funds were paid out to obtain the information leading to the individuals identity.
Why didn't the schmuck allow a friend to snitch him out and collect the reward? Kidding, folks
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“The individuals offering such rewards and are complicit in the intimidation or prosecution of any book burners need to cite where under the constitution they are granted the specific authority or be swiftly prosecuted, incarcerated and/or given substantial fines.”
A good point. The Constitution does not really proscribe the acts of private individuals or organizations except if that action violates the rights of another individual. Therefore, if called on the legal carpet, they need to justify that they are not violating someone else’s right, which is a different standard than trying to find a specific provision in the Constitution to authorize their act. Private groups and individuals, often the families of criminal victims, offer rewards all the time. That, in itself isn’t unconstitutional.
The Constitution generally limits government instead of the individual or private organization. So, to me, the issue is whether the law enforcement and government organizations have constitutional authority to assist—by making the reward public, by encouraging people to report information to the police, or by assisting in authorizing payment of the reward—when there is no evidence of a crime which might have been violated by the perpetrator.
So it is not the private organization offering the reward but the government’s assistance in helping that organization which is suspect and probably unconstitutional.
I think the government has a lot of explaining to do. As you note, they are in the position of enforcing a private matter under what we might call “color of law” and that is a no-no in this country. There are indeed serious legal questions at issue here.