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$10,000 Reward In Koran Burning Case [East Lansing, Michigan]
WLNS.com ^ | Posted: Sep 15, 2010 12:27 PM | n/a

Posted on 09/18/2010 11:56:52 PM PDT by Cindy

SNIPPET: " It was found at the front door of the Islamic Center of East Lansing."

SNIPPET: "The department is offering $10,000 for any information that would lead to the identification and prosecution of those responsible for this act.

Those with information are asked to call Det. Sherief Fadly..."

(Excerpt) Read more at wlns.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: cair; creepingsharia; creepingshariah; eastlansing; hatecrime; hatecrimes; koran; lansing; mi; michigan; quran; september112010; sharia; shariah; shariahlaw; sharialaw
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1 posted on 09/18/2010 11:56:55 PM PDT by Cindy
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Hat Tip:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/east-lansing-michigan-police-department-offers-10000-reward-in-quran-burning-case.html

“East Lansing, Michigan Police Department offers $10,000 reward in Qur’an-burning case”

(Posted September 18, 2010)


2 posted on 09/18/2010 11:58:30 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

Prosecution for littering?


3 posted on 09/19/2010 12:00:21 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Cindy
$10,000 is an insult to Islam.
4 posted on 09/19/2010 12:05:11 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If Obama was the answer---that must have been one stupid question!)
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To: Cindy

I’m Spartacus


5 posted on 09/19/2010 12:12:37 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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Is this a joke? And, with WHAT is the person going to be charged??? AND, whose money is the $10,000 - taxpayers?


6 posted on 09/19/2010 12:14:03 AM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: donna

“Prosecution for littering?”

That’s what I want to know.
What is the crime, that would justify a $10,000 reward?
What is the penalty for this crime?

Something in this story is left out and it does not pass the smell test.


7 posted on 09/19/2010 12:14:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: donna
Prosecution for littering?

Littering? Nonsense.

Burning a Quran in public is improper disposal of garbage, at best.

:^)

8 posted on 09/19/2010 12:16:10 AM PDT by James C. Bennett
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To: Cindy

I am for burning everything you want (bible, quran, flag, pictures of leaders etc) and this is ridiculous, where’s the threat to justify a $10K reward?


9 posted on 09/19/2010 12:24:09 AM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Cindy

From the comments at the article, the following draws attention to an ominous similarity in all of these cases:

“Those with information are asked to call Det. Sherief Fadly at 517-319-6814.”

“Sherief Fadly — as “undaunted” noted above, likely a Muslim. Or an islamochristian dhimmi. Either way, it’s one sign of thousands of the increasing insinuation and infiltration of Islam into our institutions.

“This story reminds me of the case in New York three years ago when a student at Pace University had allegedly flushed a Koran down the toilet was hunted diligently down by the local police and in the end was forced to perform 300 hours of community service — and guess what the detective’s name who pursued the complaint in that case? Detective Faisal Khan.

“And we all remember the arrest by Dearborn police of Christians at the Dearborn, Michigan Muslim “Fair” this past summer. Guess what the name is of the Dearborn Chief of Police? Ronald Haddad.

“Or we have seen in Rotterdam, one of the largest cities in the Netherlands, many such incidents — such as this case where a man in Rotterdam was arrested for wearing a t-shirt that had ‘No Jihad in a Rotterdam street’ printed on it. Guess what the name is of the mayor of Rotterdam? Ahmed Aboutaleb.

“All this is not to say, of course, that we don’t have our own home-grown PC MC dhimmis who have proven themselves quite capable on their own of facilitating the increasing infiltration of Islam in the West.”


10 posted on 09/19/2010 12:27:49 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: Cindy

Somebody needs to tell the cops that I shaved my beard this morning.I mean if they’re going to chase someone down for burning a Koran.....might as well go all the way.


11 posted on 09/19/2010 12:29:43 AM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Cindy

msg to self... call on Monday


12 posted on 09/19/2010 12:37:26 AM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: vbmoneyspender

I’m Charles Martel.


13 posted on 09/19/2010 12:45:14 AM PDT by abishai
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Hat Tip to Jihad Watch poster Annie Oakley for posting a link to the update.

Note: The following text is a quote:

www.cityofeastlansing.com/Home/Departments/Communications/MediaRoom/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/649/Police-Identify-Individual-Responsible-for-Quran-Desecration/

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Police Identify Individual Responsible for Qur’an Desecration

Police have positively identified the individual responsible for the desecration of the Qur’an on Saturday, Sept. 11.

The individual voluntarily surrendered to police officials on Wednesday, Sept. 15 following the establishment of a $10,000 reward fund. None of the reward funds were paid out to obtain the information leading to the individual’s identity. The individual continues to cooperate with police and FBI officials. The investigators have determined that this was an isolated incident.

It is expected that the police investigation will be completed early next week. The case will be forwarded to the Ingham County Prosecutor’s Office for review. No further information will be released until a decision is made about filing charges.


14 posted on 09/19/2010 12:51:21 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: vbmoneyspender

No, I am Spartacus!


15 posted on 09/19/2010 12:51:56 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Cindy

Oops, I misread, I thought I would get $10,000 reward for burning a Koran, which I now do for free.


16 posted on 09/19/2010 12:57:44 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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UPDATE:

Note: Video included.

http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/arrest-made-in-quran-burning-in-east-lansing

“Arrest made in Quran burning in East Lansing”

Posted: 09/17/2010

EAST LANSING, Mich. (WXYZ) -

SNIPPET: “Police say the suspect surrendered voluntarily on Wednesday after he saw a $10,000 reward issued for his capture.

He is reportedly cooperating with police and the FBI and is under investigation for a possible hate crime.

It will be up to prosecutors to decide if any charges should be filed.”


17 posted on 09/19/2010 1:00:56 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy

What’s the crime?

They just want to know who did it.

So they can have him and his family beheaded.

NEVER help that community. It will backfire on you and your loved ones.


18 posted on 09/19/2010 1:06:33 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Communities fight the construction projects: Walmarts, Starbucks and even tree removal.)
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To: Cindy
So it's against the law in Michigan to burn a koran? What about a bible or a torah?

Mrs. Prince of Space

19 posted on 09/19/2010 1:07:46 AM PDT by Prince of Space ("I'm buying shrimp, guys. Come on.")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2591957/posts?page=25#25

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Adding a few more details to post no. 17:

http://michiganmessenger.com/41989/police-identify-suspect-in-quran-burning-in-east-lansing

“Police identify suspect in Quran burning in East Lansing”
By TODD A. HEYWOOD 9/17/10 7:45 AM

SNIPPET:”... the man turned himself into authorities, reports the Lansing State Journal. The man lives in the Lansing area.

The individual recounted specific information about the incident which police had kept under wraps, and the man continues to cooperate with police, an ELPD spokesperson says. The person is not in custody and police expect to turn over their reports to Ingham County Prosecutor Stuart Dunnings III early next week.

Dunnings will determine if a crime was committed and whether or not enough evidence exists to prosecute that crime.”

SNIPPET: “The Council for American Islamic Relations has called the incident a hate crime.”


20 posted on 09/19/2010 1:12:37 AM PDT by Cindy
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“and the man continues to cooperate with police, an ELPD spokesperson says. The person is not in custody”

Let me guess: Look, we can arrest you or you can cooperate and go home for now.


21 posted on 09/19/2010 1:19:57 AM PDT by mainsail that ("A man will fight harder for his interests than for his rights" - Napoleon Bonaparte)
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To: Cindy

$10,000 dollar reward but even the DA doesn’t know what crime he should be charged with.

All they wanted was his name so they can behead him.


22 posted on 09/19/2010 1:46:50 AM PDT by NoLibZone (Communities fight the construction projects: Walmarts, Starbucks and even tree removal.)
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To: NoLibZone

“$10,000 dollar reward but even the DA doesn’t know what crime he should be charged with.”

At most, something on the order of criminal mischief which is a misdemeanor.

“All they wanted was his name so they can behead him.”

Yep.


23 posted on 09/19/2010 1:53:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (No, I am Spartacus!)
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To: Cindy

The Tawana Brawley case comes to mind. Could a Muslim burn a Koran in service to Jihad?


24 posted on 09/19/2010 2:44:03 AM PDT by jmcenanly
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To: sheik yerbouty
No, "I broke the dam"

[Cartman: "Hey, cool! Yeah! I broke the dam too -(heh heh)]

25 posted on 09/19/2010 2:44:41 AM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Cindy

I am Sparticus.


26 posted on 09/19/2010 2:48:07 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 604 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

GMTA


27 posted on 09/19/2010 2:48:45 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 604 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Cindy
Whoever it is needs to sue the city for harassment, false arrest and violation of their civil right of free speech if they are actually taken before the law. In our country burning the flag is free speech so therefore is burning anything else that one legally owns as long as people are not harmed by the fire and fire laws are followed.
I am a Christian and if anyone burns a Bible I know they answer to The LORD Himself and that is enough. I also would pray for them and know that my LORD would want me to. He came to save sinners not to condemn them. His words stand forever whether someone burns the paper that they are written on or not!
28 posted on 09/19/2010 2:50:33 AM PDT by Bellflower (All meaning is in The LORD.)
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What is interesting is the mantra of the legal system in this country is that when determining whether a particular act incites to the point that free speech is overweighed by danger of incitement to violence is “the reasonable man standard”. The issue isn’t whether someone might be incited to violence, it is whether a “reasonable person” might be so incited.

I have watched as everyone reacted to Pastor Jones’ threat and especially the Supreme Court Justice who opined an exception in the usual free speech legal reasoning for burning the Koran. Whatever justification that Justice considers for such a restriction, it is wrong. If he is considering international reaction to the act, then he is subordinating our laws to international laws and sensibilities. If he is just considering public reaction here, then he is instituting Shari’ah law.

In times past, this country also had people who violently reacted to criticism or desecration of religious standards. But as our nation civilized itself, the “reasonable man” was slowly pressured not to react violently. This is why free speech encompasses burning the Bible or other sacred texts of Christianity or the flag: because the American “reasonable man (and woman)” will keep it in perspective (as you do) and not react violently.

If, however, we decide that today’s “reasonable man” includes hypersensitive Muslims, then we have changed the definition of an American, imported cultural changes to our law, and, indeed, adopted Shari’ah which imposes a higher standard on non-Muslims than Muslims.

We need to be able to officially tell Muslims in this country, they are here as guests and must adopt the American “reasonable man” code of behavior which includes tolerance of disrespect of our faith. Anything less, like this “reward”, is dhimmitude.


29 posted on 09/19/2010 3:27:31 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: caseinpoint

Meant, in that last paragraph, to say “tolerance of disrespect of THEIR own faith.” It’s early here on the West Coast and my fingers are more awake than my brain.


30 posted on 09/19/2010 3:30:07 AM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Cindy

Would there be any news if someone burned a bible and threw it on the steps of a Baptist church?

....

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Crickets chirping....

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I didn’t think so.


31 posted on 09/19/2010 3:39:56 AM PDT by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: Cindy

Gummint has ZERO authority to offer a “reward” in this case.

Government is supposed to protect the rights of man. It is a collective defense, in a way.

Government has authority to get involved when A MAN’S (or a WOMANS) life or liberty is threatened or damaged.

Government has NO RIGHT to get involved if it is A MATTER OF OPINION!!!

People don’t even seem to have a clue anymore about what is what...


32 posted on 09/19/2010 3:40:31 AM PDT by djf (It is ISLAM or "We, the People..." Take your pick. THERE IS NO MIDDLE GROUND!!!)
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To: James C. Bennett
Prosecution for littering?

Littering? Nonsense.

Burning a Quran in public is improper disposal of garbage, at best.

:^)


Waste of toilet paper.
33 posted on 09/19/2010 4:12:17 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: abishai

I wonder if wearing a “Charles Martel” T-shirt with “Tours 733 A.D., Christianity Rocks!” would be considered a hate crime.

“Nuke Mecca Now!”


34 posted on 09/19/2010 4:21:23 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: elcid1970

I see all these women wearing the hijab in public, so I want to make a shirt that says something like, “Beauty should not submit.” or something like that.


35 posted on 09/19/2010 4:33:10 AM PDT by abishai
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I'm mad as hell and I ain't gonna take it no more. ARE THEY OUT OF THEIR F*****G MIND???!? WOULD THERE BE ANY REWARD FOR THE DESCRATION OF A BIBLE? A TALMUD?
36 posted on 09/19/2010 4:38:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The battle lines are drawn: On one side, are Dems and Repubs. On the other, the Tea Party (us).)
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To: 4Runner
This story reminds me of the case in New York three years ago when a student at Pace University had allegedly flushed a Koran down the toilet...

The best toilets have the biggest “throats”. Almost all toilets have throats between 2 and 2 1/2-inches wide. It must have been a cute little tiny koran.

37 posted on 09/19/2010 4:43:24 AM PDT by dockkiller (COME AND TAKE IT.)
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To: Lazamataz

What’s the fine for wiping my *** with a page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for eating a page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for making a paper airplane from sa page from the unholy koran? What’s the fine for telling my unholy koran that I don’t like it? Sheesh!


38 posted on 09/19/2010 4:45:40 AM PDT by hal ogen (1st amendment or reeducation camp?)
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To: Cindy; grellis

It was a Moslem trying to create a hate crime. Where do I pick up my 10 grand?


39 posted on 09/19/2010 5:04:55 AM PDT by magslinger ('This is a United States Marine Corps FA-18 fighter. Send 'em up, I'll wait!')
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To: Cindy

Reminds me of when Kennedy went to Berlin and said, we are all berliners.
Well we all burned that damnable Koran and threw it on the steps of this house of Satan.
Come on Det. Sherief Fadley and arrest us all ya dope.

Morning Cindy, hope U B doing well.


40 posted on 09/19/2010 5:07:26 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: caseinpoint
Excellent point!

Might I add that the people through their contract, the US Constitution, with their government have given the government through both houses of congress the authority to establish courts, appoint judges and make laws that are to be enforced by those courts.

NOWHERE in the constitution does it give any PRIVATE organization or RELIGION the judicial authority to deprive any American of his life, liberty, property or due process of law unless granted by the laws of the United States and individual states and even then those laws still must pass constutional muster.

The individuals offering such rewards and are complicit in the intimidation or prosecution of any book burners need to cite where under the constitution they are granted the specific authority or be swiftly prosecuted, incarcerated and/or given substantial fines. And, that goes for the FBI or any governmental organization for their abuse of authority.

It's too early in the morning for me to get into all the issues this raises, and they are numerous, but I couldn't contain myself when I read this post! My hope is I got some of the points across to start people thinking about what's transpiring.

41 posted on 09/19/2010 5:11:25 AM PDT by Old Badger (boy do opportunities abound everywhere for Real Conservatives!)
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To: Cindy

So, if you buy an American flag and burn it in public, it’s free speech, but if you buy a Koran and burn it in public, it’s a felony?

I also think this would have had more validity had they assigned Det. Joe Smith to investigate.


42 posted on 09/19/2010 5:33:05 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Cindy

It was Virg Benero...


43 posted on 09/19/2010 5:44:03 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Cindy

I note that the news release fails to mention any identifying characteristics of the person who turned himself in. Could it be because he was Middle-Eastern and wanted to foment faux outrage? Could it be that he “turned himself in” because the local Imam told him to make a deal and keep it quiet because the backlash if this were to become public would be very heated?

Inquiring minds want to know.


44 posted on 09/19/2010 5:44:40 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: Cindy

. . . what’s the reward for information leading to an arrest of those responsible for the placing of a crucifix in a vat of urine ?


45 posted on 09/19/2010 6:01:29 AM PDT by lionheart 247365 (-:{ GLENN BECK is 0bama's TRANSPARENCY CZAR }:-)
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To: sheik yerbouty

Be gone! I’m His Royal Highness Phillip the Second of Spain. :-)


46 posted on 09/19/2010 7:34:53 AM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: Cindy

Oil Sheik money.


47 posted on 09/19/2010 7:40:03 AM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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The individual voluntarily surrendered to police officials on Wednesday, Sept. 15 following the establishment of a $10,000 reward fund. None of the reward funds were paid out to obtain the information leading to the individual’s identity.

Why didn't the schmuck allow a friend to snitch him out and collect the reward? Kidding, folks

48 posted on 09/19/2010 8:21:26 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; ...

“I am Spartacus” ping. Thanks grellis.


49 posted on 09/19/2010 1:11:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Old Badger

“The individuals offering such rewards and are complicit in the intimidation or prosecution of any book burners need to cite where under the constitution they are granted the specific authority or be swiftly prosecuted, incarcerated and/or given substantial fines.”

A good point. The Constitution does not really proscribe the acts of private individuals or organizations except if that action violates the rights of another individual. Therefore, if called on the legal carpet, they need to justify that they are not violating someone else’s right, which is a different standard than trying to find a specific provision in the Constitution to authorize their act. Private groups and individuals, often the families of criminal victims, offer rewards all the time. That, in itself isn’t unconstitutional.

The Constitution generally limits government instead of the individual or private organization. So, to me, the issue is whether the law enforcement and government organizations have constitutional authority to assist—by making the reward public, by encouraging people to report information to the police, or by assisting in authorizing payment of the reward—when there is no evidence of a crime which might have been violated by the perpetrator.

So it is not the private organization offering the reward but the government’s assistance in helping that organization which is suspect and probably unconstitutional.
I think the government has a lot of explaining to do. As you note, they are in the position of enforcing a private matter under what we might call “color of law” and that is a no-no in this country. There are indeed serious legal questions at issue here.


50 posted on 09/19/2010 3:15:55 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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