Skip to comments.House Democrats Pass Bill to Grill School Children about Sexual Preference
Posted on 09/20/2010 6:45:30 AM PDT by kristinn
At the House Energy and Commerce Health Subcommittee hearing last Thursday, Democrats passed a bill to require federal health officials to question anyone seeking services from Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) community health centers or other programs about their sexual orientation and gender identity.
Introduced by Rep. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), H.R. 6109 requires HHS to obtain, retain and analyze sexual identity information from patients who seek healthcare, including children.
This bill is about collecting data, no more, no less, Baldwin said.
According to Baldwin, the current lack of cultural competency among federal officials means that we are left with gaping holes in our knowledge on LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered) policy resulting in significant health disparities.
Baldwin is the first openly-declared lesbian elected to Congress.
The new bills requirements would apply to all HHS health service programs, requiring the health service employees to ask everyone receiving services their sexual orientation and gender identity -- including those that focus on children at school-based health centers. Children who seek help at government-funded school health clinics would be asked whether or not they are gay, lesbian, bisexual or if they know their gender identity.
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Democrats: The Child Molesting Party.””
This is the goal of nearly every male homo out there. Molesting young boys is a big part of the lifestyle and they will not be satisfied until they have full access to kids; either they will be able to molest them thru membership in child organizations or they will own them through the “adoption” process.
I don’t see what the educational/health application of this information is.
Something smells fishy here.
Children who seek help at government-funded school health clinics would be asked whether or not they are gay, lesbian, bisexual or if they know their gender identity.
In fact, bears repeating:
Nope, but see, this brings up another point, which is the pure idiocy of trying to separate out "fiscal" and "social" issues, as if they were two mutually-exclusive sets of issues. I can just as easily ask a lot of social liberaltarians if they are willing to keep the DHHS, so long as it reflects their social values - and the answer from many of them would be (and in fact, HAS been) "Yes."
I've known libertarians who want to eliminate the federal Dept. of Education, but who then say they'd be entirely cool with allowing homosexual indoctrination in schools, once they're devolved to the states. That's just as bad as the federal DHHS doing it, and shows that they just don't "get it."
Conservatives need to work hand in glove to advance ALL of conservatism - not just one preferred little corner of it that they try to carve out as "theirs." Someone who is not willing to work just as hard for social conservatism, when one or more of those is the issue of the day, as they are for fiscal conservatism cannot really be called a "conservative" and does not really have any place in the conservative movement, except as an opportunistic scavenger.
You expect 6 year old children to refuse to go along with the program and become rebels?
This is insanity.
Throwing children into the gaping maw of public school is to open them to indoctrination of the worst kind.
Little children need their innocence unperverted, you can’t expect little children to know right from wrong in the face of horrible onslaughts like this, or to be able to stand up to authorities.
Children should respect their teachers; that’s why they should only have teachers that are worthy of respect.
It’s the adults’ job to fight this insanity, not little childrens’ job.
Good for you. It is the parents’ jobs to protect children from leftist hateful nonsense. Kids cannot.
>This bill is about collecting data, no more, no less, Baldwin said.<
Sure it is, you evil witch.
I expect parents to remove children from the situation. Been there, done that. By example they will learn and have the strength to do it too.
Being respectful does not mean blindly following anyone. Two different things. When I decide my child will not participate is an activity, it is not rude. Later when me child declines to participate he/she will do so politely as well. None of my kids played the silent for a day gay thing, 2 walked out of Gore and MMoore showings, and my youngest opted out of the Barry show aired to schools last year. They were not alone, but in the minority. They should have been in the majority
Sometimes there is a price to pay, but there always will be won't there??
The reprobate mind seeks to make substitutions or exceptions for God’s commandments, many politicians do just that for the sake of political correctness.
Thats how you do it!!
And people said we could keep them out of our bedrooms.
The vast majority of small children will not be able to go against the teachers’ will. Additionally, many teachers are ultra leftists who will not brook any breaking in the ranks.
Additionally, the other kids there will influence children. And many schools are solid ultra leftist pits of depravity.
Daniel went into the lions’ den when he was grown, not a small child.
While you are not incorrect, you fail to comprehend what I posted. Many teachers are also conservative, who also must fight an uphill battle much of the time
You seem to give parents the same power you claim the schools do - none. By being weak you allow for the feeble minded to control your kids and you as a parent.
Young children will almost entirely identify a “preference”
I agree. There is a distinct difference between preference and sexual orientation.
As a female child growing up in the fifties, I would have preferred being a boy. Hey! Why not? It was manifestly evident that boys had more fun.
For example, if a child had to choose between cub scouts or brownies, only a idiot would have chosen brownies.
If this passes, I’m again being forced into the position of stating that sending you kid to public school is child abuse.
When will the public education advocates wake up and smell the coffee?
What will it take?
It is absolutely and fundamentally IMPOSSIBLE for a government teacher to be “conservative”! Why?
**ALL** government schools in this nation are: socilist-funded, compulsory, government owned and managed, government cartel and price-fixed monopolies, and utterly and completely GODLESS!
When a teacher agrees to work in a government school, they agree to support and uphold a system that teaches children to be comfortable with socialism, government compulsion, government ownership and management of a social service,government cartel and price-fixed monopolies, and GODLESSNESS!
A conservative and/or Christian teachers have only two choices. 1) They can sneak in a little free market philosophy and/or Christian belief into the school day...or...2) They can go along with the liberal/Marxist and godless agenda.
What are the consequences of this?
1)If these conservative Christian teachers attempted to sneak in a little conservativism and Christianity, they have taught the children that conservatives and Christians are **SNEAKY**.
2) If the conservative Christian goes along with the liberal/Marxist agenda, he teaches the children that conservative Christians will teach children concepts that are utterly and completely in opposition to their Christian and conservative beliefs. In other words, they teach the children that conservatives and Christians are HYPOCRITES!!!
There is only **ONE** possible ethical and moral action that a conservative and Christian can take.
They MUST MUST MUST support the abolishment of government schools and they MUST MUST MUST work to get our nation's children into private conservative schools that thoroughly integrate that child's Judeo Christian beliefs and our nation's founding principles into every minute of their educational day.
So....If you know of a so-called conservative or Christian government school teacher who seems sooooo sweet and loves her cat...Please remember that that cute little man or woman is EATING the souls of children!!
Government schools are utterly and completely evil.
It is evil to send a child into one of these pits of iniquity and it is evil to accept a paycheck from one as well.
Not enough. And what ever good you think that they can do is totally eradicated by mandates like this.
If they want to stay in the system, they have to submit.
Get you kids out of public schools NOW, before any more damage is done.
This Titanic is sinking. Let it go down.
Please read post #72.
You are too harsh in your criticism. I am feeble minded?
Parent can and should try. But most teachers are liberals. That’s the fact.
Children should not be the vanguard footsoldiers fighting the leftist education departments.
I’ll always vote for a social conservative as long as he or she is a fiscal conservative too. For example, Palin is on my list of acceptable candidates, Huckabee is not.
I agree - the idea that there are “lots” of conservative teachers is opinion not based on any fact. No doubt in some pockets of the country there may be more conservative teachers than others.
Teachers have to follow the laws and the school administrators or they lose their jobs. If the school administrators are conservative they can get away with that, but how many are?
I made sure not attack homeschooling, but doing it out of this kind of fear is nuts. Many of my kids best influences came from conservative teachers, to say they can't exist is idiotic.
Mine and many many more have graduated from the system unscathed, strong and conservative.
And again you insist on the thought process that gives teachers - strangers, more power than you over your children. Earlier you even included peer pressure as having a greater influence on your children. Where is the strength that you have over the teaching and molding your own offspring in that?
Wisconsin needs to vote Tammy Baldwin out of office & send her back to the far side of the woodshed.
She need never hold another public job where the taxpayers support her & her lifestyle.
It’s hard to believe you are serious.
Children, especially adolescents, are very influenced by their friends. That’s why traditionally parents would always want to know who their children were playing or hanging out with, since some kids are bad influences. Children are very easily influenced, that’s why they need protection from bad influences!
At school they are associating with kids who’ve been molested, kids who take drugs, kids whose parents are absent or leftist or both, kids who are allowed to watch porn and other crap.
You think this won’t influence your children?
Ditto with the teachers. Ever read any of the gazillion aritcles on FR about teachers molesting and seducing children, their own students? OKay, so your kid doesn’t get targeted. His or her teachers molests other kids. That’s not going to affect your child?
How about Mr. Smith who comes back next fall as “Ms.Smith” after his sex change operation? Or the female teacher who shows the kids photos of “her wife”? Or tells other personal details children should have to deal with? These things happen a lot. The teachers’ world view will - WILL - be taught along with the subject matter.
Have you taken any looks at textbooks lately? I’ve seen math problems like “Abdul and Manuel share an apartment. They need to buy curtain material for X number of windows” etcetc. Or “June and Linda are studying for their electricians’ exam and plan to attend cop academy later. They need X cans of motor oil to change the oil on their Subaru” etc. The last example is slightly exaggerated, the first one is not.
Or textbooks wherein single motherhood is eulogized and the natural family of husband, wife and children is made to look like the Adams family. I have seen this garbage with my own eyes.
Children are in schools around 8 hours a day, plus on the bus to and fro. That’s more than 40 hours a week. How many hours a week do parents have to undo the indoctrination? And then parents have to find out what crap was spewed at the kid, and try to undo it.
In Massachusetts and other states all public schools have explicit, “gay”-friendly sex ed. And many places parents are NOT told, or cannot exempt their child. And even if your child goes and sits in the library while all the other kids are taught how to fist and put condoms on fruits and vegetables, you think your kid won’t be wondering what the heck they’re doing, or not see any of the literature about “gay is good”, or not be told by the other kids?
I wonder if you’re really being honest.
No doubt the system needs to be improved. Unions need to be done away with, tenure disappear, vouchers, heck earth day would go away if I had my way and so on.
Or, simply, The Evil Party.
Of course you do.
I applauded your post 49. Parents have a duty to be fully aware and in control of what their children are exposed to even in the classroom.
That the teacher may be a liberal or other kids do it is a poor excuse. You lose the battle when you allow others to ever get the upper hand in what is expected from your child.
You addressed none of the truth in post 83. Interesting.
That was just such a knee jerk reaction.
It’s not fear. It’s just plain common sense.
The public education system is in a shambles. It can hardly graduate literate eighteen year olds. Now it’s corrupting the moral fiber of the kids it pretends to own. Parents are just the babysitters for the new crop of liberal fodder.
maybe I’ll say it more straight forward,so it’s maybe my mistake so sorry.
Parents have the power at school when they look after their kids and take an interest.
We tell our kids what is right and wrong, we inform teachers that we expect them to educate with our help on subjects like history based on facts etc.
I had one poster who told me that I should not let my daughter become a teacher because it’s all liberals working there.
If there is a liberal teacher with an agenda and yes there was one on here before she got banned then get the parents together and let it be known that you as parents will not tolerate it.
Parents have the power at these schools.
Listen to your kids, take an interest, find out what they are told every day and talk to the teachers.
I don’t agree with the argument of don’t send them to school because they will be brainwashed .
Kids will only be brainwashed if one lets the teacher become the parent and one as a lazy parent doesn’t talk to ones kids.
Fact: Government schools are socialist-funded and the taxes raised to fund them are backed by police force ( real bullets in those guns on the hip). When children attend these socialist schools they learn to be comfortable with having the threat of police force to collect the money for a socialist service their parents want for tuition free!
A truly conservative teacher would not and can not cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable with socialism.
Fact: Government schools **are** a price-fixed cartel monopoly. This business practice creates a very hostile business climate for private schooling. Many counties in this nation have NO private schools ( such as mine). When a child attends government schools he become comfortable with government price-fixed cartel monopoly run services.
A truly conservative teacher would not and can not cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable with government run and owned price-fixed cartel monopolies.
Fact: Government schools are **compulsory**. For those counties that have no private schooling, such as mine, unless a parent can homeschool he is compelled ( that means the threat of armed police action) to use the government schools. Therefore...children become comfortable with government police threat and government compulsion.
A truly conservative teacher would not and can not cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable government compulsion to accept a social service.
Fact: Government schools are government owned and run. By attending these schools children become accustomed to government ownership and management of their very lives and deaths. Death panel is aptly named.
A truly conservative teacher would not and can not cooperate with teaching children to be comfortable with government ownership and management of their lives.
Fact: Government schools are utterly godless. While in these schools children are taught to think godlessly from the moment they enter school until the finish their homework in the evening.
Fact: A true conservative would never cooperate with teaching children to think godlessly. If they do cooperate they teach children that Christians are hypocrites. If they sneak in a little Christianity, they teach children that Christians are sneaky.
Parents have no control of what goes on in the classroom unless they homeschool.
If you think that's even remotely possible in the public school, you're deluding yourself.
I've substitute taught in my day and believe me, while parents are welcome as classroom monitors for crowd control, they have NO say in what goes on in the classroom, and they have no control at all of what their children hear from the other kids.
Nobody is going to fix the education system by enrolling their 6 year old in public schools. It's just not going to happen. The few people who care can't possibly make any kind of difference. It's like throwing a bucket of water on a forest fire. It does nothing and you'll only end up getting burned.
There is nothing to address otherwise. While many choose to avoid ugly to protect their as is their right. Others believe and work on the basis that our influence as a parent must outweigh the ugly, and does. As well as the fact, like it or not, there are good teachers and good influences out there too.
That some prefere to beleive that is a lie says more about them than it does us.
The federal government may be evil in most ways - but to say that it is "feeble" is fanciful and unrealistic. And to push little children into the maw of the leftist ideology driven school system is sacrificing them, it is not courageous.
It is not weakness to take them out of school, it's protecting children who do not have the strength to "fight the system" until they are older.
Anyone who cooperates ( actively or inactively) with teaching children to think GODLESSLY, and be comfortable with socialism, government compulsion, and government owned and run cartel price-fixed monopolies are EVIL!
Christians who do the above ( or try to sneak in a little Christianity) are teaching the children that Christians are hypocrites and/or SNEAKY. That is evil!
The above are FACTS and has nothing to do with my Christianity.
I usually agree with you - you know that we see eye to eye on most things.
Your particular school sounds as though it is not so bad, for sure. But most schools are not like that. Most schools are run by leftist administrations and stuffed with leftist teachers.
There’s nothing wrong with a person becoming a teachers if that person can control what they teach and how. It is just harder and harder.
How is it possible to “improve” the following:
Socialist-funded, GODLESS, government owned and run, and government cartel price-fixed monopoly? This is the very **definition** of government schooling!!!!!
If schooling weren't socialist-funded, godless, compulsory, government owned and run, and a price-fixed cartel monopoly IT WOULD BE **PRIVATE**!!!
There is no possible way that a conservative and/or Christian can ethically or morally cooperate with government schooling.
They are few and far between. And the curriculum is horrible. Public schools are a failure. They are nothing more than indoctrination centers for the government view.
I have repeatedly not bashed homeschooling and tried only to deal with this one issue. A bad call by a brain dead lesbian who wants people running scared or rolling over and giving in.