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UK to confiscate paychecks in private sector? (All your salaries are belong to us)
Hotair ^ | 09/20/2010 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 09/20/2010 1:45:33 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Well, if Donald Berwick’s favorite health-care system is to survive, the Brits have to do something, don’t they? The British government’s tax agency has proposed a new process for employers in the private and public sectors to pay their workers. Instead of actually giving the money to the employees, they’ll pay Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs, which will then decide just how much to allow the workers to keep:

The UK’s tax collection agency is putting forth a proposal that all employers send employee paychecks to the government, after which the government would deduct what it deems as the appropriate tax and pay the employees by bank transfer.

The proposal by Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC) stresses the need for employers to provide real-time information to the government so that it can monitor all payments and make a better assessment of whether the correct tax is being paid.

Currently employers withhold tax and pay the government, providing information at the end of the year, a system know as Pay as You Earn (PAYE). There is no option for those employees to refuse withholding and individually file a tax return at the end of the year.

If the real-time information plan works, it further proposes that employers hand over employee salaries to the government first.

What could go wrong? Well … plenty, actually. I’ve worked as a midlevel manager at firms that use direct deposit for pay (which I use myself), and I’ve seen mistakes made. One employee got paid $14,000 for one two-week period, which the company had to claw back. The next fortnight, he got 56 cents in his direct deposit, which took two days to correct. Now imagine having to deal with a government bureaucracy when these mistakes get made, and one can imagine the disasters that await. Plus, thanks to this process, the government will have access to everyone’s bank accounts, too. Goody!

But the problems are more than just pragmatic. This is a symptom of tyranny, where the government takes the attitude that it owns everything and has the responsibility for redistributing wealth as it sees fit. If the UK proceeds down this path, there will be no more private sector; everything will become an arm of the government.

I realize that the Boston Tea Party has much different historical implications for the British than it does for Americans, but perhaps it’s Tea Time in the UK, too.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confiscation; paychecks; salary; socialism; socialist; socialists; uk; ungland

1 posted on 09/20/2010 1:45:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Wonderful. This is what America can look forward to, when we become more like big nanny Europe.


2 posted on 09/20/2010 1:49:00 PM PDT by hope_dies_last
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To: SeekAndFind
If something like this were to be voted on, tomorrow, in US Congress, Democrats would be unanimous.
3 posted on 09/20/2010 1:49:22 PM PDT by ryan71 (Let's Roll!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This should cause a “Reichstag” moment in the UK!


4 posted on 09/20/2010 1:49:55 PM PDT by albie
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To: SeekAndFind

This reads like a parody but if true, it is positively frightening and, in a sense, the inevitable result of ‘creeping socialism’. This is why the left has to be vanquished in the November 2nd election. There is no more room for compromise and accommodation to socialist government policies. None.


5 posted on 09/20/2010 1:51:20 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: SeekAndFind

Wouldn’t it be cool if Prince Charles would quit talking to trees and start acting like a king?


6 posted on 09/20/2010 1:52:08 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: SeekAndFind

If Brits allow this to happen then they are imbeciles. There are also a considerable number who don’t care because they don’t work anyway.


7 posted on 09/20/2010 1:52:51 PM PDT by Soothesayer (“None can love freedom heartily, but good men; the rest love not freedom, but license...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Britain, we hardly knew ye.

Say hello to the Soviet Socialist Fief of Londanistan.


8 posted on 09/20/2010 1:53:02 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The UK is leading the way for the rest of the West to follow in to the abyss of destruction.


9 posted on 09/20/2010 1:55:15 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: ryan71

And implement the next day by any means necessary including martial law.


10 posted on 09/20/2010 2:01:06 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: SeekAndFind

Then the IRS would tell you that you may hope to see any balance due to you, begin to arrive between April 15 and August 15 the following year.....

.....there’s a Beatle’s song floating in the back of my mind....


11 posted on 09/20/2010 2:03:51 PM PDT by G Larry (“patty-cake diplomacy” must give way to strong, decisive action!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does Pelosi have close relatives in England?


12 posted on 09/20/2010 2:03:57 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010. Let's Roll!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

British Tea Party anyone?.....


13 posted on 09/20/2010 2:14:18 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind
This is a symptom of tyranny

This is no symptom. It's the real thing.

14 posted on 09/20/2010 2:21:42 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is a half-baked suggestion and I doubt it will survive the planning stages. If something like this was actually introduced into a bill to put before parliament, there would be an uproar...


15 posted on 09/20/2010 2:26:43 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: SeekAndFind
The nation that created one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen, has descended to these depths. Who is writing the obituary for England?
16 posted on 09/20/2010 2:38:11 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: SeekAndFind

You know what this reminds me of ?

“so that no one can buy or to sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.”

Seriously, this idea is only possible because of the technology in our times. It is evil...too much power, too easy to use as a weapon, too tempting, too hard to fix a problem. It is the nature of “mankind in government”...our technology hasn’t changed the nature of this, it’s amplified if anything.

God help England.


17 posted on 09/20/2010 2:49:45 PM PDT by fuzzylogic
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To: SeekAndFind
ya gotta me kiddin me... Ungland, where no country has gone before!!!
18 posted on 09/20/2010 3:09:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: SeekAndFind

They need to exorcise the ghost of Karl Marx from their soil. The English immigrants to the new world seem to have left a gene sewer behind.


19 posted on 09/20/2010 3:14:08 PM PDT by King Moonracer (Bad lighting and cheap fabric, that's how you sell clothing.....)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

The problem with ideas like this is that they never ever die. Millions of leftists will consider this a perfect transition solution towards the institution of true Marxism.

After all, it doesn’t matter what the sign on the door says. If the money you get paid comes from the government, you work for and are dependent on the government — which is exactly what they want.

The socialist caucus in America are going to be wetting their panties in excitement as they look for ways to make this a reality in America.


20 posted on 09/20/2010 3:14:54 PM PDT by Ronin (If it were not so gruesomely malevolent, Islam would just be silly.)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan

Uproar, that is so weak, they need to take to the streets and burn down parlament. That goes for the US as soon as the first Obama communist SOB brings it up.


21 posted on 09/20/2010 3:16:44 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: SeekAndFind

Was Karl Marx resurected in the UK??


22 posted on 09/20/2010 3:31:33 PM PDT by jesseam (Been there, done that)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will this half-assed, tyranical idea, if actually implemented, apply to the muslims, too?


23 posted on 09/20/2010 3:42:11 PM PDT by Levante
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump to read again after the disbelief wears off...


24 posted on 09/20/2010 4:54:56 PM PDT by Always A Marine
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To: SeekAndFind

As so often happens here, when somebody in Britain flies an outrageous policy kite as part of a political debate, flocks of Freepers are all too ready to believe it’s actually happening, and react accordingly.


25 posted on 09/21/2010 1:16:25 AM PDT by Winniesboy
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To: Winniesboy

Hey, be careful what you say, we’re subjects of tyranny now don’t you know.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good yarn, I suppose.


26 posted on 09/21/2010 10:46:25 AM PDT by Mitch86
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To: prairiebreeze

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27 posted on 09/21/2010 8:31:45 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Professional Left: Using Your Money to Promote Their Ideology Since the 1930's)
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