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Karl Rove and the Bushwacked GOP
The American Spectator ^ | 9.20.10 | W. James Antle, III

Posted on 09/20/2010 4:50:16 PM PDT by Publius804

Edited on 09/20/2010 5:17:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Here's what's rich about the continuing back-and-forth between Karl Rove and Christine O'Donnell: The most significant concern about O'Donnell is the argument that conservatives should ignore qualifications and personal flaws as long as a candidate checks the right ideological boxes. Well, what candidate benefited from that calculus more than Rove's pet project George W. Bush?


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Delaware
KEYWORDS: conservativesvsgop; hefooledya; karlrove; odonnellcastle; rove; turdblossom

1 posted on 09/20/2010 4:50:22 PM PDT by Publius804
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To: Publius804

Karl Rove is nothing more then a RINO shill.


2 posted on 09/20/2010 4:52:57 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Publius804

Week 2 of wasting precious time on this silly feud. Rove needs to stuff a sock in it. Time for all the rest of us to re-focus on defeating the statist Democratic cabal this fall and to cease being distracted by side line silliness like this.


3 posted on 09/20/2010 4:53:57 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: Publius804
Without them, it is impossible to imagine a president as liberal as Barack Obama

I just imagined it. You can't pile a hypothetical on top of a supposition on top of a variable and pretend you're near reality. What happened, happened.

4 posted on 09/20/2010 4:55:02 PM PDT by gusopol3
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To: stockpirate
If you read his quotes on line, you'd think he was Reagan reincarnate.

What happens to Republicans from Texas when they get to Washington? Are they more concerned with power politics than conservative values?

5 posted on 09/20/2010 4:55:37 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: Publius804

Totally flawed article, mr. author. Bush, and there are many reasons I love him, was not a conservative on many issues. He never discussed reigning in an out of control government. Bush was solid on social issues, lower taxes, strong defense, and ended up giving us two very good SC Justices, but he was in no way a small government advocate like this year’s crops


6 posted on 09/20/2010 4:56:30 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: stockpirate

Rove is just trying to protect his position as politicians helper.
This Tea party thing is about to kill his bidness. He’s NOT NEEDED.
Nor are any of his kind.


7 posted on 09/20/2010 5:00:06 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Less gubmint is best gubmint.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Power corrupts.


8 posted on 09/20/2010 5:02:17 PM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: stockpirate

>>>Karl Rove is nothing more then a RINO shill.

He’s an agent of the Ruling Class.


9 posted on 09/20/2010 5:04:09 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: Publius804


“DeMint’s got a committee to get me off the block
‘Cause I say my smears loud and I say ‘em nonstop
Because being a RINO is what I’m all about
I shilled for Mike Castle and I got thrown out!”
 

10 posted on 09/20/2010 5:05:07 PM PDT by counterpunch (Life in Prison: The RINO compromise to "Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death")
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
What happens to Republicans from Texas when they get to Washington?
Bush/Rove called it "the new tone"...How'd that work for them?
11 posted on 09/20/2010 5:05:18 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: stockpirate

a neocon shill.


12 posted on 09/20/2010 5:05:59 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Publius804

Karl Rove..

The political genius who built the Trojan RINO Administration that Ken Mehlman, Mary Cheney, Meghan McCain and the rest of the homosexual log-cabin zombies are trying to ride into power?

That Karl Rove?

FAIL


13 posted on 09/20/2010 5:06:51 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I guess they get exposed to the idiots sent to Washington from California voters!


14 posted on 09/20/2010 5:08:38 PM PDT by lonestar
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To: Publius804

Karl is being paid or blackmailed to spew this nonsense. Who’s his puppet master?


15 posted on 09/20/2010 5:09:31 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: Publius804
Maybe Rove is the RINOderm Master..
Possible Bush is a moron and Rove is a Svengali...
16 posted on 09/20/2010 5:11:43 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: VRWC For Truth
Karl is being paid or blackmailed to spew this nonsense. Who’s his puppet master?

Bingo. One out-of-order spasm on election night, bad form but it could happen. To keep it going news cycle after news cycle on every available forum, he is on the job.

17 posted on 09/20/2010 5:14:55 PM PDT by marron
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To: ilgipper
Totally flawed article, mr. author. Bush, and there are many reasons I love him, was not a conservative on many issues.
Now you tell us. We were told he was conservative by even Rush Limbaugh.
He never discussed reigning in an out of control government.
Yea, no kidd'n, it wasn't all that "out of control" untill it was controlded by him and other Republicans
Bush was solid on social issues,lower taxes,...
So help me out here. Was his new prescription drugs entitlment a social issue or a lower taxes issue?
18 posted on 09/20/2010 5:15:34 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: Publius804

The complete American Spectator article you posted had to be excerpted. All material from spectator.org must be excerpted and linked. Please make note of it. Thanks.


19 posted on 09/20/2010 5:20:06 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: Publius804

I wish someone would stuff a large, sweaty gym sock in Carl’s mouth.

The nomination is a done deal. The only reason he could have for continuing this is a desire to get even with conservatives. Better a commie in the Senate than a member of the Great Unwashed talking back to their betters.

Carl and the rest of them are making it abundantly clear that what is best for this country is not their primary interest.


20 posted on 09/20/2010 5:25:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: MissesBush
Week 2 of wasting precious time on this silly feud

We passed "silly" about 2 hours after the nomination was settled. It is now in the "disgusting sabotage" stage. My feelings for Rove and the rest of the RINO circus are not post-able on Free Republic.

21 posted on 09/20/2010 5:28:49 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: Admin Moderator

Will do..sorry about the mistake


22 posted on 09/20/2010 5:31:25 PM PDT by Publius804 (Buckle up - with Obama at the controls it's gonna be a bumpy ride. God help us.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
"What happens to Republicans from Texas when they get to Washington?"

They turn into steers.

23 posted on 09/20/2010 5:34:17 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: MissesBush
Time for all the rest of us to cease being distracted by side line silliness like this.

Says Misses Bush?

lol...

Lets just ignore the GOP frauds and liars running the GOP...

24 posted on 09/20/2010 5:36:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Publius804
"Well, what candidate benefited from that calculus more than Rove's pet project George W. Bush?"

Ted Kennedy

25 posted on 09/20/2010 5:39:14 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: stockpirate
Karl Rove is nothing more then a RINO shill.

Always has been. Always will be.

It's just too bad that it took 9 lo-ong years for conservatives to figure it out.

26 posted on 09/20/2010 6:00:48 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: MissesBush
Time for all the rest of us to re-focus on defeating the statist Democratic cabal this fall...

Please don't forget to defeat the statist Republican cabal while you're at it.

Remember. All the ills facing this country were brought about by Democrats and Republicans.

Both are dirty. Both need to be thrown out with the bath-water.

27 posted on 09/20/2010 6:04:29 PM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: lewislynn
Now you tell us. We were told he was conservative by even Rush Limbaugh.

By '02, I remember Rush literally apologizing for that. Daily, he'd get the yahoo Bushbots calling in all upset.

Then, he got in all that trouble and totally sold out. He bought Specter on his show the day of the '04 primary and Mr. "I Don't Do Interviews!" actually brought Karen Hughes on to plug her book. GAG! In fact, I read he had Rove on recently.

He acts all independent again. But he jumped the shark and lost all conservative cred long ago.

This was a really good post by Mr. Antle.

28 posted on 09/20/2010 6:13:00 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I'd rather be Plaxico Burress than Sean Taylor)
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To: lonestar
"I guess they get exposed to the idiots sent to Washington from California voters!"

California Republicans by and large stay conservative because of the gerrymandered districts here.

B1 Bob never went soft. Tom McClintock never will either.

If the Texas Republicans are hanging out with California Democrats, that is more a smear on Texas Republicans.

29 posted on 09/20/2010 6:17:39 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (These fragments I have shored against my ruins)
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To: lewislynn; who_would_fardels_bear
What happens to Republicans from Texas when they get to Washington?

Well first they move to Texas and claim to be Texan, then they run against the Eastern Establishment to win, then they return to their roots.

30 posted on 09/20/2010 6:49:50 PM PDT by itsahoot (We the people allowed Republican leadership to get us here, only God's Grace can get us out.)
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To: Publius804
Elsewhere on Free Republic we have posted a memorandum on the power of a contemporary super computer, operating at one billion instructions per second, to track each and every individual in a population of three hundred million across the face of the Earth in real time.

Transfer that same computational power to ascertaining votes. That is, using the intersection of sets applied to voting districts across the nation, it is straightforward enough to construct what issues should be declared and what sides to be taken to glean, that is harvest, the required amount of votes to win the district. As some insightful FR attendee once suggested call it "vote farming."

Karl Rove is a bright fellow and is the virtual guru of vote farming. "They" know how you will vote depending on the poster presented before you. And that poster is constructed by virtue of set theory.

But is that how we want to determine the managers of our nation, the politicians? That is, if we are a set of juveniles who want an unabridged allowance to indulge our whims as juveniles, do we want parents who will grant us every indulgence?

Karl Rove has made himself important through the mathematical logic of vote farming, declaring no resort whatsoever to conscious human responsibilities. This is obvious by the total denial of any recent political candidate to declare the necessity of citizen sacrifice, discipline, or responsibility; and that includes GWB.

In historical terms Karl Rove is the same Machiavellian manipulator as the Left. Indeed that is the essential definition of the Left.

Once understood the extraordinary self-centeredness of the Washington DC elites becomes crystal clear. These really really are people who are not interested in our mature development as responsible citizens, but rather those interested in their own self importance. We have said this succinctly through the tagline below; and through the Tea Party will repeat it over and over while there is still hope for human dignity.

Johnny Suntrade

31 posted on 09/20/2010 7:17:20 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: MissesBush
Week 2 of wasting precious time on this silly feud.

I don't think it's silly. It's very serious, and I'm glad this is all happening, even if it is right before the election.

It's important because Rove and others are setting themselves up for a divorce from the Republican Party.

It's looking like THEY are going to be the third party, not us.

More power to them, and GOOD RIDDENCE!

32 posted on 09/20/2010 7:22:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: itsahoot
What happens to Republicans from Texas when they get to Washington?
Well first they move to Texas and claim to be Texan, then they run against the Eastern Establishment to win, then they return to their roots.
Funny you should say that because that's exactly what happened to California.
33 posted on 09/20/2010 7:24:39 PM PDT by lewislynn
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To: jnsun
In historical terms Karl Rove is the same Machiavellian manipulator as the Left. Indeed that is the essential definition of the Left.

And this is precisely why Rove and all the rest of the professional manipulator are so upset with the outcome of the Castle - O'Donnell race: they failed miserably.

In fact, for at least the past 15 years the left has seen its ability to manipulate the electorate deteriorate with every death (or placement on life support) of another big city newspaper. Their very mission is to prove (mostly to themselves) that they still wield the kind of influence that can get even the slimiest Democrat elected or re-elected. Their success in getting a thoroughly unqualified "community organizer" elected President of the United States should have gratified them, but they know that that "victory" was a cheap, hollow one because the race had been ceded by a tired GOP before it even began. The joy of the left was short lived as they looked around and saw no glimmers of the schaedenfreud they longed for.

So now the left finds itself enjoying(?) the company of Karl Rove and Charles Krauthammer, and before them, Kathleen Parker and Peggy Noonan, as they all see their legendary influence dissipate like a morning fog.

Screw them all, and hallalejuah, the American citizenry is waking up at last. Thank God for the new media of talk radio, 24-hour cable news, and the internet.

34 posted on 09/20/2010 8:00:06 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

You know, I’ll bet a lot of folks don’t know what that is.


35 posted on 09/20/2010 8:03:56 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Forgotten Amendments

You have a good memory for embarrassing facts about Mr. Limbaugh that are seldom discussed in these here parts. Of course it was a heady time for a lot of righteous friends of the Bushes. Hell yes, some even stayed overnight in ol Lincoln’s bedroom and had regular special invites for special confabs about special stuff and other special things. It was truly a very special time.


36 posted on 09/20/2010 9:20:38 PM PDT by UncleSam
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To: Mr. Lucky

They’d know if it was applied to them.

For the first hour or so.


37 posted on 09/20/2010 9:23:48 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: SnuffaBolshevik
But afterwards, they wouldn't care.
38 posted on 09/21/2010 7:11:34 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Balding_Eagle
I don't think it's silly. It's very serious, and I'm glad this is all happening, even if it is right before the election.

O'Donnell needs to focus on the issues and Coons's Marxism and forget the dogs biting at the heels of her caravan. If O'Donnell wastes time answering her critics, then she's walking right into the trap they're hoping she'll fall into--talking about them instead of the compelling issues of this campaign on which she could build a compelling case for her candidacy. Ignore the yappers and focus on what Americans care about.

There's no divorce coming among the GOP. It's just a healthy internal debate.

39 posted on 09/21/2010 10:55:27 AM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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To: MissesBush

You may be right, where would Karl go?


40 posted on 09/21/2010 11:32:55 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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