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GOP has tough road to win House
Politico ^ | 9/21/10 | MARTIN FROST

Posted on 09/21/2010 6:51:10 AM PDT by paudio

For the past month, most of the national press has been uncritically swallowing a steady diet of Republican propaganda: The race for the House is over; the Republicans have already won.

As someone who has been involved in congressional politics for more than 30 years and served as Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chairman for the 1996 and 1998 cycles, I questioned this. Instead, I took a state-by-state look at the electoral map, particularly after POLITICO published a bipartisan Battleground Poll on Sept. 16 that showed the generic ballot between Republicans and Democrats to be a 43 percent to 43 percent dead heat nationally.

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He tries to rally the Dhims, but it's also good to always remind ourselves: "Don't count your chicken before they hatch!"
1 posted on 09/21/2010 6:51:13 AM PDT by paudio
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To: paudio

Ha Politico shilling for its masters.


2 posted on 09/21/2010 6:51:58 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: paudio

and just yesterday Rasmussen had the generic ballot at 48 to 38...so Politico is cherry picking again as usual.


3 posted on 09/21/2010 6:52:51 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: paudio

I think a huge pub win is being built up so that the bar is very high. If the pubs don’t win big, they will just say “the pubs under preformed”


4 posted on 09/21/2010 6:52:56 AM PDT by cableguymn
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To: sunmars

I don’t call it pollutico for nothing.


5 posted on 09/21/2010 6:53:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: paudio

we’ll see won’t we


6 posted on 09/21/2010 6:53:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys)
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To: cableguymn
..."pubs under performed"...

They say that, regardless.

7 posted on 09/21/2010 6:54:51 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, while you were sleeping the Socialists took over.)
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To: paudio

“uncritically swallowing a steady diet of Republican propaganda”

A real neutral observer there. NOT!


8 posted on 09/21/2010 6:55:20 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: paudio

Frost got his A** kicked out of office and he is still po’d.

Get a life Frost. No ONE cares what you think.


9 posted on 09/21/2010 6:55:24 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: paudio
Good Good keep the idea going that the Dems are going to win Frost. Help us make sure we get every possible voter out to the polls.

GOP cannot coast now. It would be like doing a victory dance on the 10 yard line.

10 posted on 09/21/2010 6:55:31 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: cableguymn

There is truth in that. I get nervous when we think it is in the bag and done. It is never over until you are salting the scalps.


11 posted on 09/21/2010 6:55:54 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
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To: cableguymn

You got it! Remember the mantra of the DC cabal:

“Less bad is the new good”
repeat
“Less bad is the new good”
repeat...


12 posted on 09/21/2010 6:56:00 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Support and vote for Sean Bielat (MA-4)! MA-4 is Barney Frank's district.)
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To: paudio

Really funny thing is he site a Politico commissioned poll to validate his claims. So Politco is citing itself as the source of it “Facts”.


13 posted on 09/21/2010 6:56:58 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: cableguymn

“I think a huge pub win is being built up so that the bar is very high. If the pubs don’t win big, they will just say ‘the pubs underperformed’.

Exactly!

And we’ll see more and more of this as we get closer to Election Day.


14 posted on 09/21/2010 6:57:15 AM PDT by MplsSteve (http://www.demmerforcongress.com)
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To: sunmars

Politico isn’t shilling, just publishing a guest column by a former congressman who got whupped and hasn’t gotten over it. Frost held that seat for decades, probably still as bitter as Murkowski.

Frankly, I like reading what the Dems are saying and thinking. It’s always good to get inside the head of the opposition.


15 posted on 09/21/2010 6:58:09 AM PDT by Jedidah
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To: paudio

I actually agree with Frost. Every one of these takeaways will be a fight... it should always be viewed that way.


16 posted on 09/21/2010 6:58:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: paudio

Haha! Someone has been freebasing “hope and change” again!! LoL


17 posted on 09/21/2010 6:59:39 AM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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To: paudio

This just in an email from a good friend in Alabama..pass it on:

“Just thought I would share with you a little bit of what we heard at last night’s Republican dinner here in Crawford County, Ohio . John Kasich (running for Gov. of Ohio) was the keynote speaker. Also present were many politicians, most notably, Bob Latta, our U.S. Congressman. Mike and I walked up to Bob and thanked him for his conservative voting record and voiced our concern about what is going on in Washington. He made some funny botox remarks about Pelosi and then agreed with us that we have every reason to be concerned.

As there were others waiting to talk to him, our time was brief. Although what took place later that evening should make chills run up and down everyone’s spine to hear. He asked to speak a few words at the end of the night and went up on stage. He proceeded to tell the crowd how bad things really are in Washington. He said if he could tell us even half of what the agenda is and what this administration plans to do to our country we couldn’t sleep at night. He said he only gets 4 to 4-1/2 hours of sleep a night and worries constantly about what they want to do to this country.

He said that Pelosi, Reid and Obama have to be stopped. He said, “You know, you always hear this is the most important election blah blah blah, but I am telling you people...whatever you have to do to wake people up you need to do! We have got to vote them out in 2010 or with the things they have planned for this country we won’t even be a country by 2020! Ten years.”

You could see the look of almost desperation on his face.
He talked about the huge debt. He talked about how the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) gets their “figures”. He sits on the finance committee and listens to the ramblings of Geithner and Bernanke. He said, “If you think that the Chinese won’t hold this over us with all our debt you have another thought coming. Our children will have nothing.”

“I don’t care if you have to go out door to door, tell at least 10 people who will then tell 10 people. We have to do this. This is the single most important election ever in the history of this country. The change that Obama promised us is NOT the change people thought he meant.”

WELL, I’VE JUST SENT THIS OUT TO EVERYONE ON MY DISTRIBUTION LIST! WILL YOU DO THE SAME? WE CAN GET RID OF MOST OF THE BAD GUYS IN CONGRESS THIS NOVEMBER, INCLUDING “FANCY NANCY ”. LET’S DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME.

“A Nation of Sheep will beget a Government of Wolves.” -— Edward R. Murrow

End of fwd msg.


18 posted on 09/21/2010 7:00:38 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: paudio
Nice try PolitiHO! (...not really...just kidding...you guys are tools...)
19 posted on 09/21/2010 7:03:19 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: paudio
generic ballot between Republicans and Democrats to be a 43 percent to 43 percent dead heat nationally.

When one recalls back to November of 2008, when the One was held in such high regard the pundits were writing off the Republicans as being as dead as the dinosaurs. Now less than two years later Obama has done more to help the Republican cause than anyone since Ronald Reagan.

20 posted on 09/21/2010 7:03:24 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (Even Hitler had Government run health care, but at least he got the Olympics for Germany)
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To: Michael.SF.

Not “republicans” per se -

but he and the democRats HAVE succeeded in waking the sleeping giant of We the People.


21 posted on 09/21/2010 7:04:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: paudio

As with all mid-term elections, this one will hinge on turnout. Republicans are simply more motivated than Democrats this year, and that is unlikely to change. But there is another factor at work - non-affiliated/independent voters constitute a larger block than in the recent past, and they have swung hard toward the GOP. By focusing on party identification and presumed registration numbers, Frost et al. are missing the coming wave.


22 posted on 09/21/2010 7:04:33 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: sunmars
Yes, but better to run with the mindset that it is a) close, and yet b) we are still behind.

Then you ramp up into triple strength and go the full nine yards to get out the vote, runnning scared, as if everything depended on it. Which it does. This will be the Republic we are voting on a few weeks.

23 posted on 09/21/2010 7:05:07 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (They should count their blessings The American People are going to take power from them peacefully..)
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To: paudio

Ah, Martin Frost. He knows something about losing tough House races.


24 posted on 09/21/2010 7:05:07 AM PDT by Crichton
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To: paudio

So Martin Frost, Dimbulb from TX, is still alive and still stupid....


25 posted on 09/21/2010 7:05:16 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: paudio; Free ThinkerNY; unkus; flat; Nachum; Clintonfatigued; MamaDearest; freekitty; holdonnow; ...

RAT/RINO enemies within haven’t had their dirty laundry exposed enough yet. Highlight and expose the votes they cast against the American people, their Ruling Class/anti-American comments, and their voting YES on laws that harm the American people without evening reading the bill. Dig out the under-the-table money they sucked out of lobbyists and the deals they made with Satan to keep their power.

No more being the nice guys. Investigate and expose their foul deeds and dirt; expose it to the world. Special Emphasis on sore, whining losers who won’t relinquish power.


26 posted on 09/21/2010 7:05:25 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Take back our country on November 2, 2010. Let's Roll!!!)
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To: paudio
Most of the polls that show the race a dead heat are polls of “Americans” which is essentially anybody with a pulse that answers the phone. In most off year election less than 50% of “Americans” vote, that's why GOOD pollsters like Rasmussen whittle the the results down to “likely voters”. So yes, it is very possible for dems and republicans to be evenly split among “Americans” and Republicans up 10% among “likely voters”.
27 posted on 09/21/2010 7:05:28 AM PDT by apillar
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To: paudio
I don't believe in complacency and I don't think there is much of that in the Tea Party ranks. We are eager to vote, win and start taking our country back.

This happy-face analysis of the upcoming election results by Martin Frost, a former congressman, is what is sometimes called 'whistling past the graveyard'. A frightened persons attempt to comfort himself by willfully ignoring what frightens him, in this case, a Republican electoral tsunami in 42 days. Playing with numbers and offering meaningless speculation is easy and, perhaps, comforting to Democrats. Well, come November 3rd, at least Martin Frost will be able to honestly tell all the Democrat losers that "I know how you feel".

28 posted on 09/21/2010 7:06:23 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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. . .most of the national press has been uncritically swallowing a steady diet of Republican propaganda: The race for the House is over; the Republicans have already won.

Um. . .what? I sure haven't heard that from the "national press." As is the habit of libs, this one is lying.

29 posted on 09/21/2010 7:09:37 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

also bear in mind how many Hillary voters went independent after 2008, they are out for revenge, there is a sizeable chunk of voters that are former Clinton Dems voting republican to take down Obama.


30 posted on 09/21/2010 7:09:41 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Jim Scott

The questions is: Will the ‘rat Congress be able to scuttle the ship of state before they are forced to walk the plank in January?


31 posted on 09/21/2010 7:10:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: paudio

Thank you Martin Frost. I appreciate you and others putting out articles like this. It will mean that the Pub groundgame will not coast and will not take it easy. I wish all voters dying to get to the polls and vote the leftists out of office will read this and remember to get to the polls. I appreciate your efforts in this Martin...


32 posted on 09/21/2010 7:11:10 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Jedidah

Frankly, I like reading what the Dems are saying and thinking. It’s always good to get inside the head of the opposition.””

I think they’re in the denial stage right now. This whole movement has been dissed by both sides of the aisle for some time and since it hasn’t gone away they’re questioning that it’s even much of a factor.

To my way of thinking this is very good news. Only a blind man at this point could think the dims are running neck and neck on a generic ballot. Having said that, we can’t let up, we haven’t accomplished anything yet.


33 posted on 09/21/2010 7:13:54 AM PDT by bereanway
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To: paudio

The tougher the battle, the more glorious the victory.


34 posted on 09/21/2010 7:13:58 AM PDT by reg45
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To: kittymyrib

“So Martin Frost, Dimbulb from TX, is still alive and still stupid.”

I think it is called “frost on the brain”.


35 posted on 09/21/2010 7:15:10 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: paudio

Hahahahahahahahaha


36 posted on 09/21/2010 7:16:07 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Jedidah

“Frankly, I like reading what the Dems are saying and thinking. It’s always good to get inside the head of the opposition.”

Congratulations, then. I’ve never been able to even remotely figure out why those blockheads think what they think... indeed, if it can be called thinking at all.

The only constants I can see is that:

A) They lie. All the time. Literally. As in “every single thing they say.”

B) They are incoherent. Literally. All the time. The bedrock of Liberal Logic is “A = B, therefore you suck and we win!”

C) They have the maturity level of seven year olds. If they don’t get their way, they call names and rant like little children. If they lose an election, they are invariably bad sports - if they don’t out and out try and find a way to overturn the election results in their favor, by lying, cheating, or using fellow travelers in the Court system.

I honestly believe they should not only be kicked out of office - each and every one of them, but not allowed to hold any position of authority over anyone ever again anywhere - including positions where their warped and dangerous views corrupt the thinking (and thus the welfare) of others. They should not be hired as teachers. They should not be hired as reporters. Actually, since they’re lazy and useless by nature, they should not be hired as anything because they’re likely just to try and “game the system,” do as little work as possible and screw everything up just to “stick it to the man.”


37 posted on 09/21/2010 7:20:08 AM PDT by Pravious
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To: paudio
Their own poll showed the GOP had +8 point lead in the generic balloting among likely voters. like the song says "You spin me around right round right round, like a record baby..." The poll he quotes is from the registered voter portion. Denial is not a river in Egypt.
38 posted on 09/21/2010 7:20:11 AM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: paudio

“For the past month, most of the national press has been uncritically swallowing a steady diet of Republican propaganda:”

Sure, Sparky - that’s what the national press does. They’re just Republican lapdogs.

Wait...

Colonel, USAFR


39 posted on 09/21/2010 7:20:11 AM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: paudio

Martin Frost. I know him well. He could not defeat Pelosi for the house leadership position and he went downhill from there.

This is just a voice crying out in the face of certain doom.


40 posted on 09/21/2010 7:20:23 AM PDT by altura
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To: Crichton

He certainly knows about getting blown out.


41 posted on 09/21/2010 7:20:30 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Paladin2
The questions is: Will the ‘rat Congress be able to scuttle the ship of state before they are forced to walk the plank in January?

Agreed!

WE have two hills to climb in the next several months. We have to do very well in the elections. Not a given until after it happens. Expect lawsuits galore for all close races. And fraud up the wazoo. Second, as you said, we have to stop the lame ducks from finishing us off before January.

42 posted on 09/21/2010 7:23:45 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there.)
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To: AlexW
"He said if he could tell us even half of what the agenda is and what this administration plans to do to our country we couldn’t sleep at night"

And just WHY can't he tell us half of what the Admin has planned? Sounds like a BS "rouse the troops" speech to me.

43 posted on 09/21/2010 7:25:27 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

“And just WHY can’t he tell us half of what the Admin has planned? Sounds like a BS “rouse the troops” speech to me.”

Do not shoot the messenger.
You can take it however you like.


44 posted on 09/21/2010 7:28:25 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Jane Long
The GOP under-performs because they have to cast legitimate votes. No multiple voters, deceased, illegal aliens or other illegitimate ballots allowed.
45 posted on 09/21/2010 7:30:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: paudio
So the MSM, aka the DNC Propaganda arm, says.

The real question is: If the Dems do somehow rig the elections and retain control, what do WE THE PEOPLE do?

succeed? revolt? go gault? become sheeple again?

46 posted on 09/21/2010 7:32:09 AM PDT by Snuph
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To: AlexW

“If you think that the Chinese won’t hold this over us with all our debt you have another thought coming. Our children will have nothing.”

This is the money quote. Americans...and even Europeans, have NO comprehension of dealing en masse with a population unrestrained by Christian Western temperance.

All of the 20th century European , and even Soviet atrocities pale by comparison to what was experienced in the South Pacific in WWII and in Southeast Asia in Vietnam. The American media did NOT divulge even 5% of what transpired there during those times. Americans would NEVER have consented to let their family members go there if they knew.

Point being...there are some people in this world you do NOT want to owe money to...the Chinese and Japanese would be right at the top of my list...and only a foolish Congresscritter could allow that to happen to America.


47 posted on 09/21/2010 7:32:17 AM PDT by mo
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To: cableguymn

Perception is reality... and that is a law of politics.

LLS


48 posted on 09/21/2010 7:32:23 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: paudio

Why not take a look at the Rasmussen poll that just came out, giving Republicans a 10 point congressional edge once again. OOOPS...sorry, Politico. I forgot your KEEN interest in non-bias!!


49 posted on 09/21/2010 7:38:42 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Frosty was trounced!

50 posted on 09/21/2010 7:47:50 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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