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Pigford Case. How to screw things up Royally when you yell "Racism" when she yelled it first.
Tadlock Cowan Analyst in Natural Resources and Rural Development
Posted on 09/21/2010 8:25:47 AM PDT by jongaltsr
Yes, folks. It appears that Ms. Sherrod had just unwittingly exposed herself as the perpetrator of one of the biggest fraud claims in the United States - a fraud enabled solely because she screamed racism at the government and cowed them into submission. And it gets even more interesting. Ms. Sherrod has also exposed the person who aided and abetted her in this race fraud. As it turns out, the original judgment of "Pigford v. Glickman" in 1999 only applied to a total of 16,000 black farmers. But in 2008, a junior Senator got a law passed to reopen the case and allow more black farmers to sue for funds. The Senator was Barack Obama. Because this law was passed in dead silence and because the woman responsible for spearheading it was an obscure USDA official, American taxpayers did not realize that they had just been forced in the midst of a worldwide depression to pay out more than $1.25 billion to settle a race claim. But Breitbart knew. And last Monday, July 22, 2010, he cleverly laid a trap which Sherrod - and Obama - stumbled headfirst into which has now resulted in the entire world discovering the existence of this corrupt financial judgment. Yes, folks - Breitbart is a genius. As for Ms. Sherrod? Well, she's discovered too late that her cry of 'racism' to the media which was intended to throw the spotlight on Breitbart has instead thrown that spotlight on herself - and her corruption. Sherrod has vanished from public view. Her 'pigs', it seems, have come home to roost. Oink!
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: black; breibart; fraude; pigford; sherrod
CRS Report for Congress Prepared for Members and Committees of Congress The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Tadlock Cowan Analyst in Natural Resources and Rural Development Jody Feder Legislative Attorney April 21, 2010 Congressional Research Service 7-5700 www.crs.gov RS20430 The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service Summary On April 14, 1999, Federal District Court Judge Paul L. Friedman approved a settlement agreement and consent decree resolving a class action discrimination suit (commonly known as the Pigford case) between the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) and black farmers. The suit claimed that the agency had discriminated against black farmers on the basis of race and failed to investigate or properly respond to complaints from 1983 to 1997. The deadline for submitting a claim as a class member was September 12, 2000. Many voiced concern over the structure of the settlement agreement, the large number of applicants who filed late, and reported deficiencies in representation by class counsel. A provision in the 2008 farm bill (P.L. 110-246) permitted any claimant in the Pigford decision who had not previously obtained a determination on the merits of a Pigford claim to petition in civil court to obtain such a determination. A maximum of $100 million dollars was also authorized for new claims settlements. On February 18, 2010, Attorney General Holder and Secretary of Agriculture Vilsack announced a $1.25 billion settlement of these so-called Pigford II claims. The Administration included $1.15 billion in its FY2010 supplemental budget request for settlement costs. An amendment (S.Amdt. 3407) to H.R. 4213, the Tax Extenders Act of 2009, to authorize the funding failed on March 10, 2010. A provision in the settlement permitted the plaintiffs to void the settlement if Congress did not appropriate the $1.15 billion by March 31, 2010. Appropriators did not meet that deadline, although USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack sent letters in March to congressional leaders asking them to appropriate money for the settlement, saying that resolving cases of discrimination is a department priority. Because the settlement is clearly a priority of both the USDA and the White House, plaintiffs are unlikely to exercise their right to void the settlement in the near term. Unlike the original Pigford decision, the Pigford II settlement does not include a suggested settlement amount, although it does provide for higher payments to claimants who go through a more rigorous review process. A moratorium on foreclosures of most claimants farms will be in place until after claimants have gone through the claims process. Payments to successful claimants may begin in the middle of 2011. This report highlights some of the events that led up to the Pigford class action suit and outlines the structure of the original settlement agreement. It also discusses the number of claims reviewed, denied, and awarded, and some of the issues raised by various parties. It will be updated periodically. The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service Contents Background ...............................................................................................................................1 USDA-Commissioned Study.................................................................................................1 Class Action Suit.........................................................................................................................2 Terms of the Consent Decree.......................................................................................................3 Current Status .............................................................................................................................4 Tables Table 1. Track A Statistics as of April 7, 2010..............................................................................5 Contacts Author Contact Information ........................................................................................................7 The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 1 Background Litigation against the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) for discrimination against African- American farmers began in August 1997 with two discrimination suits brought by black farmersPigford v. Glickman, No. 97-1978 (D.D.C. 1997) and Brewington v. Glickman, No. 98- 1693 (D.D.C. 1997)but its origins go back much further.1 For many years, black farmers had complained that they were not receiving fair treatment when they applied to local county committees (which make the decisions) for farm loans or assistance. These farmers alleged that they were being denied USDA farm loans or forced to wait longer for loan approval than were non-minority farmers. Many black farmers contended that they were facing foreclosure and financial ruin because the USDA denied them timely loans and debt restructuring. Moreover, many claimed that the USDA was not responsive to discrimination complaints. A huge agency backlog of unresolved complaints began to build after the USDAs Civil Rights Office was closed in 1983. USDA-Commissioned Study In 1994, the USDA commissioned D. J. Miller & Associates, a consulting firm, to analyze the treatment of minorities and women in Farm Service Agency (FSA) programs and payments. The study examined conditions from 1990 to 1995 and looked primarily at crop payments and disaster payment programs and Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) loans. The final report found that from 1990 to 1995, minority participation in FSA programs was very low and minorities received less than their fair share of USDA money for crop payments, disaster payments, and loans. According to the commissioned study, few appeals were made by minority complainants because of the slowness of the process, the lack of confidence in the decision makers, the lack of knowledge about the rules, and the significant bureaucracy involved in the process. Other findings showed that (a) the largest USDA loans (top 1%) went to corporations (65%) and white male farmers (25%); (b) loans to black males averaged $4,000 (or 25%) less than those given to white males; and (c) 97% of disaster payments went to white farmers, while less than 1% went to black farmers. The study reported that the reasons for discrepancies in treatment between black and white farmers could not be easily determined due to gross deficiencies in USDA data collection and handling. 1 USDA Secretary Tom Vilsack is now the defendant in the class action suit. Demographics The 2007 Census of Agriculture reported that 2.20 million farms operated in the United States. Of this total, 32,938, or approximately 1.5% of all farms, were operated by African-Americans. Over 74% (24,466) of African-American farmers in the United States reside in Texas, Mississippi, North and South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, Virginia and Louisiana. Average annual market value for farms operated by African-American farmers in 2007 was $30,829. The national average for white U.S. farmers was $140,521. Overall, the number of farms operated in the United States increased by 3.2% between 2002 and 2007. Farms operated by African Americans increased from 29,090 to 32,938, an 11.7% increase over the five-year period. In 2007, 348 (757 in 2002) African-American farmers received Commodity Credit Corporation (CCC) loans amounting to a total of $9.9 million. This averaged $28,408 per participating African-American farmer, about 32% of the national average ($87,917). Average CCC loan value to white farmers was $88,379. Other federal farm payments to African-American operated farms averaged $4,260, half the national average government farm payment of $9,518. About 31% of all African-American farmers received some government payment compared to 50% of white farmers. Source: 2007 Census of Agriculture, NASS. The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 2 In December 1996, Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman ordered a suspension of government farm foreclosures across the country pending the outcome of an investigation into racial discrimination in the agencys loan program and later announced the appointment of a USDA Civil Rights Task Force. On February 28, 1997, the Civil Rights Task Force recommended 92 changes to address racial bias at the USDA, as part of a USDA Civil Rights Action Plan. While the action plan acknowledged past problems and offered solutions for future improvements, it did not satisfy those seeking redress of past wrongs and compensation for losses suffered. In August 1997, a proposed class action suit was filed by Timothy Pigford (and later by Cecil Brewington) in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on behalf of black farmers against the USDA. The suit alleged that the USDA had discriminated against black farmers from 1983 to 1997 when they applied for federal financial help and again by failing to investigate allegations of discrimination. Class Action Suit Following the August 1997 filing for class action status, the attorneys for the black farmers requested blanket mediation to cover all of the then-estimated 2,000 farmers who may have suffered from discrimination by the USDA. In mid-November 1997, the government agreed to mediation and to explore a settlement in Pigford. The following month, the parties agreed to stay the case for six months while mediation was pursued and settlement discussions took place. Although the USDA had acknowledged past discrimination, the Justice Department opposed blanket mediation, arguing that each case had to be investigated separately. When it became apparent that the USDA would not be able to resolve the significant backlog of individual complaints from minority farmers, and that the government would not yield on its objections to class relief, plaintiffs counsel requested that the stay be lifted and a trial date be set. On March 16, 1998, the court lifted the stay and set a trial date of February 1, 1999. On October 9, 1998, the court issued a ruling certifying as a class black farmers who filed discrimination complaints against the USDA between January 1983 and February 21, 1997.2 In his ruling, Judge Friedman concluded that the class action vehicle was the most appropriate mechanism for resolving the issue of liability in the case.3 A complicating factor throughout the period, however, was a two-year statute of limitations in the Equal Credit Opportunity Act (ECOA), the basis for the suit. Congress, accordingly, passed a measure in the FY1999 omnibus funding law that waived the statute of limitations on civil rights cases for complaints made against the USDA between 1981 and December 31, 1996.4 As the court date approached, the parties reached a settlement agreement and filed motions consolidating the Pigford and Brewington cases, redefining the certified class and requesting preliminary approval of a proposed consent decree. On April 14, 1999, the court approved the consent decree, setting forth a revised settlement agreement of all claims raised by the class members.5 Review of the claims began almost immediately, and the initial disbursement of checks to qualifying farmers began on November 9, 1999. 2 Pigford v. Glickman, 182 F.R.D. 341 (D.D.C. 1998). 3 Id. at 342. 4 P.L. 105-277, §741. 5 Pigford v. Glickman, 185 F.R.D. 82 (D.D.C. 1999). The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 3 Terms of the Consent Decree Under the consent decree, an eligible recipient is an African American who (1) farmed or attempted to farm between January 1981 and December 31, 1996, (2) applied to USDA for farm credit or program benefits and believes that he or she was discriminated against by the USDA on the basis of race, and (3) made a complaint against the USDA on or before July 1, 1997. The consent decree set up a system for notice, claims submission, consideration, and review that involved a facilitator, arbitrator, adjudicator, and monitor, all with assigned responsibilities. The funds to pay the costs of the settlement (including legal fees) come from the Judgment Fund operated by the Department of the Treasury, not from USDA accounts or appropriations.6 The Pigford consent decree basically establishes a two-track dispute resolution mechanism for those seeking relief. The most widely-used optionTrack Aprovides a monetary settlement of $50,000 plus relief in the form of loan forgiveness and offsets of tax liability. Track A claimants had to present substantial evidence (i.e., a reasonable basis for finding that discrimination happened) that claimant owned or leased, or attempted to own or lease, farm land; claimant applied for a specific credit transaction at a USDA county office during the applicable period; the loan was denied, provided late, approved for a lesser amount than requested, encumbered by restrictive conditions, or USDA failed to provide appropriate loan service, and such treatment was less favorable than that accorded specifically identified, similarly situated white farmers; and the USDAs treatment of the loan application led to economic damage to the class member. Alternatively, class participants could seek a larger, tailored payment by showing evidence of greater damages under a Track B claim. Track B claimants had to prove their claims and actual damages by a preponderance of the evidence (i.e., it is more likely than not that their claim is valid). The documentation to support such a claim and the amount of relief are reviewed by a third party arbitrator, who makes a binding decision. The consent decree also provided injunctive relief, primarily in the form of priority consideration for loans and purchases, and technical assistance in filling out forms.7 Finally, plaintiffs were permitted to withdraw from the class and pursue their individual cases in federal court or through the USDA administrative process.8 Under the original consent decree, claimants were to file their claim with the facilitator (Poorman-Douglas Corporation) within 180 days of the consent decree, or no later than October 12, 1999. For those determined to be eligible class members, the facilitator forwarded the claim to the adjudicator (JAMS-Endispute, Inc.), if a Track A claim, or to the arbitrator (Michael Lewis, 6 31 U.S.C. §1304. 7 See also P.L. 107-171 (2002 farm bill) § 10707 (mandating that the USDA carry out an outreach and technical assistance program to assist socially disadvantaged farmers in owning farms and participating in USDA programs); §10708 (governing the composition of county, area, or local committees to encourage greater representation of minority and women farmers). 8 USDA news release, July 11, 2002. The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 4 ADR Associates), if a Track B claim. If the facilitator determined that the claimant was not a class member, the claimant could seek review by the monitor (Randi Roth). If the facilitator (and later by court order, the arbitrator9) ruled that the claim was filed after the initial deadline, the adversely affected party could request permission to file a late claim under a process subsequently ordered by the court. Late filing claimants were directed to request permission to submit a late claim to the arbitrator by no later than September 15, 2000.10 The arbitrator was to determine if the reason for the late filing reflected extraordinary circumstances (e.g., Hurricane Floyd, a person being homebound, or a failure of the postal system). Since there reportedly had been extensive and widespread notice of the settlement agreement and processincluding local meetings and advertisements in radio, television, newspapers and periodicals across the nation and in heavily populated black minority farmer areaslack of notice was ruled an unacceptable reason for late filing. Current Status In general, there seems to be a consensus that many of the issues surrounding the implementation of Pigford can be attributed to the gross underestimation of the number of claims that would actually be filed.11 At the same time, many in Congress and those closely associated with the settlement agreement have voiced much concern over the large percentage of denials, especially under Track Athe virtually automatic cash payment. Interest groups have suggested that the relatively poor approval percentages (59%) can be attributed to the consent decree requirement that claimants show that their treatment was less favorable than that accorded specifically identified, similarly situated white farmers, which was exacerbated by poor access to USDA files.12 Table 1 shows statistics for Track A claims as of January 12, 2010. As of that date, there were 172 eligible Track B claimants (1% of the total eligible class members).13 More alarming to many, however, is the large percentage of farmers who did not have their cases heard on the merits because they filed lateso-called Pigford II claimants. Approximately 73,800 Pigford II petitions (66,000 before September 15, 2000 late filing deadline) were filed under the late filing procedure, of which 2,116 were allowed to proceed.14 Many claimants who were initially denied relief under the late filing procedures requested a reconsideration of their petitions. Out of the approximately 20,700 timely requests for reconsideration, 17,279 requests had been decided; 113 had been allowed to proceed by the end of 2005, according to the most recent compilation of individual case data.15 Many argued that the large number of late filings 9 Pigford v. Glickman, No. 97-1978 and No. 98-1693 (D.D.C. December 20, 1999) (order delegating the authority to make decisions on late claims to the arbitrator). 10 Pigford v. Glickman, No. 97-1978 and No. 98-1693 (D.D.C. July 14, 2000). 11 See Status of the Implementation of the Pigford v. Glickman Settlement, hearing Before the House Committee on the Judiciary, Subcommittee on the Constitution, 108th Cong. at 1595 (2004) (letter from Michael K. Lewis, Arbitrator). 12 Environmental Working Group, Obstruction of Justice, USDA Undermines Historic Civil Rights Settlement with Black Farmers, Part 4 (July 2004) available at http://www.ewg.org/reports/blackfarmers/execsumm.php (hereinafter EWG Report). 13 Office of the Monitor, at http://www.pigfordmonitor.org/stats/. 14 Arbitrators Ninth Report on the Late-Claim Petition Process (November 30, 2005). 15 Ibid. The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 5 indicated that the notice was ineffective or defective.16 Others countered these claims by arguing that the Pigford notice program was designed, in part, to promote awareness and could not make someone file.17 Some also suggestedincluding many of the claimantsthat the class counsel was responsible for the inadequate notice and overall mismanagement of the settlement agreement.18 Judge Friedman, for example, cautioned the farmers lawyers for their failure to meet deadlines and described their representation, at one point, as border[ing] on legal malpractice.19 Table 1. Track A Statistics as of April 7, 2010 Track A Totals Track A Decisions 22,549 Final Track A Adjudications Approved 15,638 (69%) Final Track A Adjudications Denied 6,911 (31%) $50,000 Cash Awards $767,450,000a $3,000 Non-Credit Awards $1,512,000 Debt Relief $38,923,651 IRS Payments for Title A Claimants $191,862,500 IRS Payments for Debt Relief $6,656,111 Total Track A Relief $1,006,404,262 Source: Office of the Monitor, http://www.pigfordmonitor.org/stats/. a. This number may reflect payments actually made thus far. Judge Friedman also declared that he was surprised and disappoint[ed] that the USDA did not want to include in the consent decree a sentence that in the future the USDA would exert best efforts to ensure compliance with all applicable statutes and regulations prohibiting discrimination.20 The judges statements apparently did not go unnoticed, as the Black Farmers and Agriculturalists Association (BFAA) filed a $20.5 billion class action lawsuit in September 2004 on behalf of roughly 25,000 farmers against the USDA for alleged racial discriminatory practices against black farmers between January 1997 and August 2004. The lawsuit, however, was dismissed in March 2005 because BFAA failed to show it had standing to bring the suit.21 In the 110th Congress, the Pigford Claims Remedy Act of 2007 (H.R. 899; S. 515) and the African- American Farmers Benefits Relief Act of 2007 (H.R. 558) were introduced to provide relief to many of these claimants who failed to have their petitions considered on the merits. The provisions of these bills were incorporated into the 2008 farm bill (P.L. 110-246, Section 14012), 16 Notice Hearing, 1-4. See also EWG Report, at Part 3. 17 Notice Hearing, at 10 (statement of Jeanne C. Finegan, consultant to Poorman-Douglas). 18 Tom Burrell, President, Black Farmers and Agriculturalists Association, Inc., Tom Burrell Lays out the Case of why Al Pires, Class Counsel, Must be Fired!, available at http://www.bfaa.net/case_layout.pdf; see also EWG Report, at Part 3. 19 Pigford v. Glickman, No. 97-1978 and No. 98-1693 (D.D.C. April 27, 2001); see also Pigford v. Veneman, 292 F.3d 918, 922 (D.C. Cir. 2002). 20 Pigford v. Glickman, 185 F.R.D. 82, 112 (D.D.C. 1999). 21 Black Farmers and Agriculturalists Assoc. v. Veneman, 2005 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 5417 (D.D.C. March 29, 2005). The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 6 providing up to $100 million for potential settlement costs. The Administration requested an additional $1.15 billion for these potential settlement costs in its FY2010 budget. Appropriators did not provide additional funding in the FY2010 appropriations bill (P.L. 111-80). On May 5, 2009, Senator Charles Grassley and Senator Kay Hagan introduced S. 972, a bill that would amend the 2008 farm bill to allow access to an unlimited judgment fund at the Department of Treasury to pay successful claims.22 The legislation also allows for legal fees to be paid from the fund in addition to anti-fraud protection regarding claims. The bill was referred to the Committee on Agriculture, Nutrition, and Forestry. A related bill in the House (H.R. 3623) was introduced by Representative Artur Davis on September 9, 2009, and referred to the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties on October 19, 2009. On February 18, 2010, Attorney General Holder and Secretary of Agriculture Vilsack announced a $1.25 billion settlement of the Pigford II claims.23 The Administration requested $1.15 billion in an emergency appropriation, to remain available until expended, for the Pigford II claimants. When combined with the $100 million authorized in the 2008 farm bill (P.L. 110-246, Section 14012), this appropriation, if authorized by Congress, would make $1.25 billion available to settle the Pigford II claims. Senator Inouye introduced an amendment (S.Amdt. 3407) to H.R. 4213, the Tax Extenders Act of 2009, to provide the requested $1.15 billion. On March 10, 2010, the Senate voted 66-34 to invoke cloture on the bill and limit debate on the substitute being considered for amendment purposes. The vote blocked S.Amdt. 3407 as non-germane. No funding has yet been appropriated. The Pigford II settlement is final and may not be appealed. A provision of the settlement permits the claimants to void the settlement should Congress not make the $1.15 billion appropriation by March 31, 2010. Congress did not make this deadline before leaving for the Easter recess. The settlement is clearly a priority of both the USDA and the White House, suggesting that the plaintiffs are unlikely to exercise the right to void the settlement in the near term. Unlike the original Pigford decision, the Pigford II settlement does not include a suggested settlement amount for individual claimants, although it does provide for higher payments to claimants who go through a more rigorous review process. Claimants can seek fast-track payments of up to $50,000 plus debt relief, or choose a longer process for damages of up to $250,000. Payments to successful claimants could begin in the middle of 2011. The 2008 farm bill provision also mandated a moratorium on all loan acceleration and foreclosure proceedings where there is a pending claim of discrimination against USDA related to a loan acceleration or foreclosure. This provision also waives any interest and offsets that might accrue on all loans under this title for which loan and foreclosure proceedings have been instituted for the period of the moratorium. If a farmer or rancher ultimately does not prevail on her claim of discrimination, then the farmer or rancher will be liable for any interest and offsets that accrued during the period that the loan was in abeyance. The moratorium terminates on either the date the Secretary of Agriculture resolves the discrimination claim or the date the court renders a final decision on the claim, whichever is earlier. The Pigford II settlement reiterates these provisions. 22 The U.S. Treasury fund is established under 31 U.S.C. 1304. 23 In Re Black Farmers Discrimination Litigation, Case Number 08-mc-00511 in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. The Pigford Case: USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers Congressional Research Service 7 Author Contact Information Tadlock Cowan Analyst in Natural Resources and Rural Development firstname.lastname@example.org, 7-7600 Jody Feder Legislative Attorney email@example.com, 7-8088
posted on 09/21/2010 8:25:51 AM PDT
Without paragraph breaks I’m not reading this.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:27:21 AM PDT
(A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
Paragraphs are your friend.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:28:19 AM PDT
Oh that is very painful to look at let alone read
Without paragraph breaks, Im not reading this either.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:29:34 AM PDT
Holy crap, it looks like you threw up on your keyboard.
- Learn to use paragraph breaks.
- Cite the source properly, with a URL -- so that interested parties can read the properly formatted version if they choose.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:29:40 AM PDT
(The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
Pigford is 90% scam and 10% legitimate. White farmers are going out of business all the time. But they don’t get to cry racism and blame the USDA for it. Sherrod’s operation was ruined by drought and the USDA refused to lend them more on top of what they had already gotten.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:30:59 AM PDT
(-He who will not economize will have to agonize- - - - - - - - Confucius)
What this post needs is a pair of graphs.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:35:56 AM PDT
by South Hawthorne
(In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
posted on 09/21/2010 8:36:36 AM PDT
(This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
Exposing RAT and Obama dirt is the key to defeating the enemies of America.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:37:27 AM PDT
(Take back our country on November 2, 2010. Let's Roll!!!)
posted on 09/21/2010 8:37:35 AM PDT
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
Sherrod will not serve a day in prison for her scam.
posted on 09/21/2010 8:47:29 AM PDT
posted on 09/21/2010 9:15:50 AM PDT
by verum ago
(Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!)
someone call the paragraph police! and get out the comfy chair!
posted on 09/21/2010 9:20:20 AM PDT
(The lesser of two evils is still evil.)
posted on 09/21/2010 9:22:41 AM PDT
(The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
posted on 09/21/2010 9:29:24 AM PDT
(If we ever forget that we're one nation under GOD, then we will be a nation gone under.-Ronald Re)
I know you’re getting grief for the paragraphs but I also know that when one cuts and pastes, it can screw the text.
Make sure you Preview. But sometimes that doesn’t even work.
Thanks for the info.
posted on 09/21/2010 9:38:07 AM PDT
(I am inyenzi on the Religion Forum)
Look at the bright side, it prints easily on less paper.
Don’t know if there is any documentation required that you have ever applied for this particular aid or not. With the numbers of people applying for the handouts, it does not seem likely.
As far as I can tell, real farmers and ranchers rarely use the government aid process under consideration and thus are not likely to qualify for the $50K handout or the $250K handout if you don’t settle immediately. It is likely that people rejected for these loans were not really operating real farms in the first place.
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