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UK Proposes All Paychecks Go to the State First....
CNBC ^ | Sep 20th, 2010

Posted on 09/21/2010 9:51:34 AM PDT by TaraP

The UK's tax collection agency is putting forth a proposal that all employers send employee paychecks to the government, after which the government would deduct what it deems as the appropriate tax and pay the employees by bank transfer.

The proposal by Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs (HMRC) stresses the need for employers to provide real-time information to the government so that it can monitor all payments and make a better assessment of whether the correct tax is being paid.

Currently employers withhold tax and pay the government, providing information at the end of the year, a system know as Pay as You Earn (PAYE). There is no option for those employees to refuse withholding and individually file a tax return at the end of the year.

If the real-time information plan works, it further proposes that employers hand over employee salaries to the government first.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: check; income; taxes; uk

1 posted on 09/21/2010 9:51:36 AM PDT by TaraP
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To: TaraP

all yur pachex r belong to us......


2 posted on 09/21/2010 9:52:52 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: All

Are they insane!


3 posted on 09/21/2010 9:53:05 AM PDT by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: TaraP

This is how Cuba is run.


4 posted on 09/21/2010 9:53:55 AM PDT by texmexis best (My)
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To: TaraP

Dear God.... [And I say that humbly and sincerely.] What is the “free” world coming to?


5 posted on 09/21/2010 9:54:06 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: TaraP

So private employers will basically contract with the government for employees.


6 posted on 09/21/2010 9:54:10 AM PDT by reg45
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To: TaraP
Are they insane!

Nope. It's by plan. But the workers are insane if they don't revolt.

7 posted on 09/21/2010 9:54:29 AM PDT by bcsco (Karl Rove, from Magnificent Bastard to Malignant Bastard in one day...)
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To: TaraP

“Trust me!”


8 posted on 09/21/2010 9:55:25 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: bcsco

it goes from employers send checks to bailout money is paid to unionistas directly.

from each according to their ability to each according to their ability to curry influence.


9 posted on 09/21/2010 9:56:10 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Slings and Arrows

New simplified tax form.

1] How much did you make last year? _______
2] Send it in.


10 posted on 09/21/2010 9:56:13 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: reg45

My boss is a fellow freeper. When this headline showed up here yesterday, we discussed it. I told him that if they ever pull that crap here, I’ll quit.

It will be time to quit pulling the wagon in exchange for an allowance from “my betters”.


11 posted on 09/21/2010 9:56:24 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: TaraP

This almost reads like satire but it’s the inevitable result of socialism. A clear warning to Americans of what their future holds unless we dump the Democrats and their Marxist agenda. November 2nd may be America’s last chance to do so. I’m cautiously optimistic.


12 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:13 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: TaraP

Democrat party political hacks have orgasms with fantasies like this.


13 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:31 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: bcsco
...the workers are insane if they don't revolt.

They gave up that option when they voluntarily surrendered their guns to their government.

14 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:42 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bcsco

At what point will people acknowledge that a revolution is needed?

If not this, then what?


15 posted on 09/21/2010 9:57:59 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: Clara Lou
What is the “free” world coming to?

First gun(and knife)control, then total control.

16 posted on 09/21/2010 9:58:08 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: TaraP

Just keep pushing.....things will explode.


17 posted on 09/21/2010 9:58:08 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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To: TaraP

Joe Stalin approves, it worked out perfectly for him.


18 posted on 09/21/2010 9:58:54 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: TaraP

It tainted it for me, too.

FWIW, the article somehow smacks of BS.


19 posted on 09/21/2010 10:00:01 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: FarRightFanatic

Sorry - wrong thread! I have NO idea how that just happened.


20 posted on 09/21/2010 10:01:05 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: TaraP

It’s not that much different than having our employers act for the IRS as we do now.

Maybe the UK government wants the float.


21 posted on 09/21/2010 10:01:35 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: a fool in paradise

coming soon to a democrat Senate near you...


22 posted on 09/21/2010 10:01:58 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: TaraP

Sounds like they are regressing to the Dark Ages of Lords and serfs ... And the employees are the serfs ... the employers the vassals ...

And these were the people of the Magna Carta?


23 posted on 09/21/2010 10:02:14 AM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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To: TaraP

The UK needs a tar and feathers committee Stat!


24 posted on 09/21/2010 10:03:03 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: TaraP

25 posted on 09/21/2010 10:03:15 AM PDT by TSgt (And the war came.)
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To: TaraP

If we don’t defeat the Democrats in November, this is sure to be an step Nancy, Harry, Obama and company will be considering (and probably sneaking it into an education or military funding bill).


26 posted on 09/21/2010 10:04:57 AM PDT by FarRightFanatic (It wasn't an election. It was a socialist coup.)
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To: gundog

England, sadly, is barely free anymore. Universal camera surveillance, thought crime, licenses required for a TV, no open broadcast of internet signals, severly restricted free speech, prior censorship on certain topics, gun control, boy scouts can’t have a standard boy scout knife/tool, treasure or minerals found found on private property belongs to the state, illegal immigrants can simply move into your garage while you are gone for the weekend, and police won’t evict them,, and now Sharia law is moving in.

It’s most sad what has happened there. We must never allow it here.


27 posted on 09/21/2010 10:05:13 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: TaraP

At first, I thought this was satire.

I’m sure Obama read this article and said to himself, “Hey, this is a really good idea”.


28 posted on 09/21/2010 10:05:45 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: TaraP

they suffer from lead balloon diease


29 posted on 09/21/2010 10:06:34 AM PDT by SF_Redux
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To: TaraP

This of course comes from Britain’s “conservative” party.


30 posted on 09/21/2010 10:07:02 AM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: TaraP

Folks, this is just a proposal. It’s not going anywhere.

But whoever even brought this idea up and made it public ought to be DEMOTED.


31 posted on 09/21/2010 10:07:10 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: TaraP
It's just the next logical step for that mindset.

Nothing insane about it.

32 posted on 09/21/2010 10:07:53 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: TaraP

This law would soon be followed by a law stating employers are no longer allowed to share how much money they sent the government per employee.


33 posted on 09/21/2010 10:07:53 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility ("In a time of universal deciet, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" - Orwell)
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To: TaraP

Why have a paycheck at all? Just get paid by the government and all employers give all of their earnings to the government...


34 posted on 09/21/2010 10:09:04 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: DesertRhino

It’s been a few years, but someone in the UK was working on silent hovercraft...small ones...for surveillance. Very Orwellian.


35 posted on 09/21/2010 10:10:36 AM PDT by gundog (Why is it that useful idiots remain idiots long after they've exhausted their usefulness?)
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To: TaraP

The road to serfdom now leads to the UK. If this policy is actually enacted, I could not understand any why any freedom loving, entrepreneurial person would remain in the UK. Are we going to see Brits emigrate to Cuba and Russia now?
Oh heck, why don’t they go all out and regress back to the feudal system of the 12th century.


36 posted on 09/21/2010 10:11:32 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: WebFocus

Although you are correct, that it will go nowhere, all of these ideas start off as innocent proposals. They are quickly shot down, and then the “compromise” is that they get a third or half of the original proposal.

There will be no demotion,,because they did exactly what their masters intended. They asked for the everything knowing they will be given half. They smirk at the plan. They know they will ask for more,, and then more, and then even more. That is how England has got to where they are today.


37 posted on 09/21/2010 10:14:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: gundog

I thought those were called Balloons!


38 posted on 09/21/2010 10:18:23 AM PDT by catman67
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To: longtermmemmory
Well this is coming here to a theatre new you soon enough. The american way is to get around the govt and here is what could play out: Instead of delivering set pay to employees - goods in kind can be provided - housing can be owned by the company and let to employees for nominal amounts unless the IRS wants to impute rental fair market value for every piece of property which of course they feel they could do yesterday.

Goods-in-kind renumeration puts the employee in the place of an indentured servant. The employer becomes a subsidiary of the federal govt.

The response in britain should be hell no instead of the meek - it's not a good idea...

39 posted on 09/21/2010 10:19:53 AM PDT by x_plus_one
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To: WebFocus

“But whoever even brought this idea up and made it public ought to be DEMOTED.”

Wrong, wrong, wrong. They should be SHOT and then cut into little pieces.


40 posted on 09/21/2010 10:32:45 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: TaraP

...don’t let Obama and our Current Congress hear of this plan.


41 posted on 09/21/2010 10:33:10 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: TexasRepublic

RE: Wrong, wrong, wrong. They should be SHOT and then cut into little pieces.


Boy, I wouldn’t want you to be the King of England :)


42 posted on 09/21/2010 10:34:03 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: TaraP

bttt


43 posted on 09/21/2010 10:50:28 AM PDT by aberaussie
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To: TaraP

well, it would certainly give Going Galt a much more immediate impact


44 posted on 09/21/2010 11:10:12 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: WebFocus

“Boy, I wouldn’t want you to be the King of England :)”

No worries, mate. They’re gonna get Charles instead. I pity the fools. :-)


45 posted on 09/21/2010 11:11:54 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Then we’d see all hell break loose accross this country


46 posted on 09/22/2010 2:13:01 AM PDT by Terrence DoGood
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