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Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2010 | Ken Pittman

Posted on 09/21/2010 12:48:37 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: dirtboy
Too funny, given that Mexico came into being after the United States.

The left uses this bogus equation of Mexicans with North American Indian tribes to sell a sense of entitlement and grievance for the purpose of destabilizing the nation and instituting their police state of useless eaters suitable for extermination. In fact, the elitists want the conservatives and dependents to dispose of each other.

151 posted on 09/21/2010 2:06:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The RINOcrat Party is still in charge. There has never been a conservative American government.)
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To: MrB

exactly. they repeat some leftist slogan like it would download smartiness into their brains.


152 posted on 09/21/2010 2:06:31 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Hojczyk

Did they speak ‘Mexican’?


153 posted on 09/21/2010 2:07:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (Rangers Magic Number - 6)
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To: Hojczyk

That doesn’t even make sense. The region “America” was inhabited by ‘American Indians’ and ‘Mexico was inhabited by Indians as well. Spaniards went to Mexico and to Florida (the US) in the 1500’s. The pilgrims a bit after.

I would be eternally grateful if the dissing and demeaning of European Americans would stop.


154 posted on 09/21/2010 2:08:43 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: Hojczyk

Mexico was SPANISH. It was the Indians who were here, all over. And Asians.

So, 0bama, blame SPAIN, Portugal, Russia and Manchuria.

Furthermore, you were an immigrant, 0bama. Please. Get a grip.


155 posted on 09/21/2010 2:09:15 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Hardraade
About the Arabic (written) language: is this what you were referring to?

Reading Arabic 'hard for brain'(Link, BBC)

Article says the Arabic letters are too detailed (with the exact placement of dots and squiggles) compared to the relatively much easier Latin, Greek, Cyrillic, and Hebrew alphabets, whose letters are simpler and more clearly different from each other. The right brain gets confused.

Wonder how this compares to other scripts: Hindi, Japanese and so forth?

156 posted on 09/21/2010 2:11:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (America is being run by the ghost of a dead Luo tribesman of the 1950s)
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To: DoughtyOne

I have a nine year old son. He’s not that stupid.


157 posted on 09/21/2010 2:11:21 PM PDT by dnandell (I don't need no stinkin' tagline)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Heh!


158 posted on 09/21/2010 2:12:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (America is being run by the ghost of a dead Luo tribesman of the 1950s)
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To: combat_boots

You should not blame The “One.” He learned his United States history from the American-hating Pastor Wright.


159 posted on 09/21/2010 2:13:17 PM PDT by daviscupper (.)
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To: Sherman Logan
“Since, as everyone knows, the Aztec came from what is now the SW USA”

That is incorrect. Provide any reference if you feel otherwise. The Aztec were in the area of we now refer to as Central Mexico.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztec

There have been no Aztec ruins ever discovered in what is now known as the United States.

160 posted on 09/21/2010 2:14:22 PM PDT by Gabrial (The Whitehouse Nightmare will continue as long as the Nightmare is in the Whitehouse)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I forgot to say, this all started when my son came home from school with the assignment to “Make a Family Tree”. Mom went and got the family Bibles, the Land Grant that brought us to Missouri and started digging for “her beloved grandson”. I was so ignorant, I had to ask who Virginia Dare was. She gathered it all up, went to the Genealogist Society at the St. Louis Public Library, and from there it went. The earliest family Bible dated 1812, so she had a pretty good start, but couldn't make any further progress on her own.
161 posted on 09/21/2010 2:17:04 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Looks like it happened in Corpus Christi if that's the location at the bottom of the screen and not just the news station broadcasting the report.

I have a draem deram dream that one day Obama will have to produce a Long Form Birth Certificate with the doctor and hospital of record. Of course there's not supposed to be a problem, but given his errors and lies about 1965 causing his 1961 birth, I'd just like to see it.
162 posted on 09/21/2010 2:20:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Hojczyk

Did they speak Spanish, too?


163 posted on 09/21/2010 2:25:01 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: Hojczyk; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; LucyT; george76; F15Eagle; forkinsocket; mojitojoe; azishot; ...
Barack Obama told the Hispanic Caucus in his speech that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States was an idea. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I await the day when Obama goes to Wisconsin and says the same thing about the Vikings.( sarc.)

Obama's statement hardly justifies a repetition of the Conquistador scenario now as the drug cartels are allowed to recreate the conquistador slaughter along our Southern border.Obama is one sick puppy.

This is the historic justice that is the foundation for Obama's nationalist socialism.......thats right, FASCISM!!

Historic justice has been the calling card of every fascist dictator of the 20th Century. Obama is no different from them, blaming those who are now dead for alleged wrongs to be paid for by those now living who had nothing to do with it.This is exactly what the Obama Junta is, no mistake about it.

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164 posted on 09/21/2010 2:26:34 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Hojczyk

I wonder if Hannity and Limbaugh have seen this yet?


165 posted on 09/21/2010 2:26:55 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Shakey Jake said, " The hippies will never survive!")
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To: BigEdLB

Yes and that culture and those people were obliterated by the Spanish Conquistadors’, New Spain was the name of the area that encompassed current day Mexico and much of western north America. So Obama’s revisionist history it seems leaves out the conflicts of the times, I guess had Obama been President there never would have been an America from Sea to Shining Sea...


166 posted on 09/21/2010 2:27:46 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (Obama is a dangerous radical and our nation has one choice, Vote or Die.)
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To: Gabrial
Sorry, I thought my sarcasm was plain enough without a tag.

According to Aztec legend, they came from far to the north, which Mexican racists take to mean the SW USA and draw the conclusions I mentioned from this "fact."

The Aztecs are fairly closely related linguistically to the Utes and other SW American tribes, FWIW.

There is, BTW, some evidence that the move of the "Anasazi" into their cliff dwellings was related to an increase in Meso-American influence, perhaps even "missionaries" from what is now Mexico.

If the neighbors got into human sacrifice and cannibalism, I'd move into a cliff dwelling, too.

There have been no Aztec ruins ever discovered in what is now known as the United States.

Actually not true. Just outside the town of Aztec, NM there is a large ruin that is called "Aztec Ruin." Nothing to do with the actual Aztecs, of course, but still an Aztec ruin.

167 posted on 09/21/2010 2:28:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Hojczyk

Our turd of a president doesn’t even know we have 50, not 58, states. WTF does he know about any American history? Sheesh.


168 posted on 09/21/2010 2:28:46 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Every time a liberal whines, an angel gets his wings.)
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To: Gabrial

Obama hates this country and wants to destroy it. It is a long tradition for Africans to poop in their own nests.


169 posted on 09/21/2010 2:28:53 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Newcomer.

One of my ancestors was a Spaniard who settled in San Juan, Puerto Rico (the oldest European settlement under the U.S. flag) before 1530.

And the 1587 Roanoke settlement that included Virginia Dare’s parents was the second such settlement, the first having come in 1585. The 1585 expedition stopped in western Puerto Rico on the way to North Carolina, where another ancestor of mine, Spanish Governor Diego Menendez de Valdes (an Asturian, and cousin of Juan Menendez de Aviles, the founder of St. Augustine, FL), allowed residents to trade with the Englishmen who needed supplies for the rest of their voyage.

But it’s okay, I’ll let you stay. : )


170 posted on 09/21/2010 2:31:46 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: dnandell

Sorry. Heh heh heh...


171 posted on 09/21/2010 2:34:35 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hojczyk

Get you nose out of the air, 000bama, “we’re tired of defending you”.


172 posted on 09/21/2010 2:35:20 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: DoughtyOne
All good points.

The conclusion here really is inescapable. We have a federal government that has lost both the legal and moral authority to govern. It would therefore appear we have a rogue government.

173 posted on 09/21/2010 2:35:52 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Candor7
0blahblah is a nitwit who doesn't know the most basic history of America. There was no such thing as Mexico until 1821. It was a place, like the Sonoran desert is a place, but until independence in 1821 the people there were subjects of Spain and either Spaniards or of some native tribe. There were some other European imports too such as Germans, Dutch and French but they were also Spanish subjects.

I have known a lot of poorly educated half wits in my life but I am hard pressed to think of one who was so poorly informed about our history as this Kenyan goofball.

174 posted on 09/21/2010 2:39:30 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: RC2
"Look out Arizona. He’s going to give you to Mexico. Along with Texas, California, New Mexico, etc, etc."

Which of course means that Mexicans will then be sneaking into Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Oklahoma and Louisiana.


175 posted on 09/21/2010 2:40:39 PM PDT by VR-21
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To: TigersEye

The Big h-O-le is simply revising history to meet his own agenda of calling for a Sonora Uprisng.

He figures if he can get all the minorities and the Mexicans rioting, that the rest of us will all cower and run. He is making a very large mistake.

Obama wants the streets of America to run red IMHO.


176 posted on 09/21/2010 2:44:38 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: pgkdan

The point is he is not a citizen.

This asshat pos has to go...deport him along with his aunt.


177 posted on 09/21/2010 2:45:39 PM PDT by Mouton
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To: Carry_Okie
In fact, the elitists want the conservatives and dependents to dispose of each other.

I'm not sure what's more disturbing. That what you said is a fact or what you said didn't generate a response.

178 posted on 09/21/2010 2:46:18 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Yesterday's Left = today's status quo. Thus CONSERVATIVE is a conflicted label for battling tyranny.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican
Oh, darn. I thought I'd just won the lottery. ;-) That's what they used to call Grandpa's family - Newcomers. They'd only been here from the late 1600s, early 1700s. Well, at least you knew where you were. I didn't even know that. Thank you for the extension of such gracious generosity. I defer to your superior credentials and accept with overwhelming gratitude.
179 posted on 09/21/2010 2:47:53 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Hojczyk

Huh??? There was no “Mexico” when the U.S. came into being.


180 posted on 09/21/2010 2:50:01 PM PDT by chilltherats (First, kill all the lawyers (now that they ARE the tyrants).......)
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To: Hojczyk
First he claims US has 57 states & now Mexico was a country before the US.

Better check the textbooks in the Madrasas in Indonesia!

What are they teaching future US Presidents?

181 posted on 09/21/2010 2:52:15 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Candor7

When Slick Willy told a whopper I knew he knew the truth and was BSing. With Zer0 I am always on the fence as to whether he is BSing or just dumb as a stump. I am sure American history isn’t covered very well in Indonesian schools.


182 posted on 09/21/2010 2:52:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Hojczyk
That must be why Mexico is considered to be part of North America.
183 posted on 09/21/2010 2:54:31 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: Hojczyk

This guy doesn’t think, act or talk like an American.


184 posted on 09/21/2010 2:55:10 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Hojczyk

so WHAT....and what ideas has mexico come up with within obama’s time frame ?


185 posted on 09/21/2010 2:55:14 PM PDT by catroina54
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To: ponygirl

Obama’s ignorance of history is only exceeded by his narciscism and intellectual hubris that got us into this mess. Simply put, he seems to know nothing but the Marxist dogma he inhaled with whatever else he snorted as a “child”. But thank you (as a former Arizonan whose ancestors helped settle the new state when everyone was on a first name basis with the Goldwaters and made it into the formerly prosperous state it was) for correcting the historical record.

Thanks also to Verginius Rufus (Poster #139) for correcting the historical record. As an amateur student of pre-Columbian history and early Mexico, and a frequent visitor to study that’s country’s ancient civilizations before the drug wars, I am baffled about all the talk about Mexico taking huge sections of the United States back.

I think it is safe to say that without the success of the American Revolution there would be no independent Mexico, not to mention the moral and material support that Benito Juarez (the first President of Mexico of Indian, PC: Native American, ancestry) received from the United States to kick out the French. Without that, the siginificance of Cinco de Mayo, the heroic victory of the vastly outnumbered Mexican militia over the French at Puebla, would have been diminished.

It can be argued that US influence twice at least helped Mexico to guarantee its independence. Aside from the sometimes questionable correspondence between Lincoln and Juarez, there is the misplacement of 30,000 rifles by General Sheridan which were “recovered” by Juarez’ forces to guarantee Mexican independence from the French. Andrew Johnson also invoked the Monroe Doctrine to give Mexican nationalists a boost in reclaiming their country.

Obama’s ignorance of history is astonishing for someone who “graduated” from Columbia and Harvard Law. Then again, maybe not.


186 posted on 09/21/2010 2:58:09 PM PDT by RightSpirit ((GO CHRISTINE O'DONNELL 2010!))
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To: TigersEye
Obama has double messages in everything he says these days. One message for minorities, and another meaning for majority of America. His recent " they treat me like a dog" comment is another example.
187 posted on 09/21/2010 2:59:18 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Hojczyk
Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples.

But only one had the ideas of natural rights, freedom, and we don't need a king, that made America unique. And it wasn't the Mexicans

188 posted on 09/21/2010 3:02:48 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: TigersEye
How hard is it to know that Mexico became a country AFTER the United States? Just FIVE days ago, September 16, 2010, Mexico celebrated it's 200 anniversary. If Obama was alive in 1976, he would have remembered our Bicentinennal, more than 5 days ago. Duh.
189 posted on 09/21/2010 3:03:40 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

As someone further upthread said 0blahblah is making VP Biteme look like a rocket scientist. lol


190 posted on 09/21/2010 3:06:39 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

The thing is that, if one goes back to 1530, that’s like 20 generations. Knowing one ancestor 20 generations back means that one knows just one of one’s 1,048,576 great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents (of course, going that far back, some of the 1,048,576 names are certain to appear more than once in one’s family tree). Genealogy is interesting and fun, but it really puts in perspective how much one *doesn’t* know about one’s exact ancestry.

BTW, are you partly of Native American descent? I ask because stories of Virginia Dare’s possible descendants usually point to her having married a member of one of the Indian tribes around NC. If you have Native American ascent, then you can call *everyone* a newcomer. : )


191 posted on 09/21/2010 3:09:35 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Hojczyk

Define idea.


192 posted on 09/21/2010 3:10:34 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: Candor7
Obama has double messages in everything he says these days.

True. He is definitely trying to triangulate but in a very different way than Clintoon did. What is amazing is how tone deaf he is to how he comes across to most Americans. He is stealthy and manipulative but very clumsy at it.

193 posted on 09/21/2010 3:12:06 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Yes, I have Native American ancestors — Cherokee from roughly North Carolina. My maternal great, great, great grandmother had apparently died and to hide my great, great, great, great, (boy, that gets old in a hurry) widowed aunt (who had been married to my great x 4 grandfather’s brother) from the Trail of Tears, my grandfather married his brother’s wife, Carolina. She was much beloved from the stories my grandmother told. So, yes, half my family immigrated (or came on the prison ships) and the other half was here to meet them.


194 posted on 09/21/2010 3:24:11 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: TigersEye

No doubt Obama’s dexterity will improve once the violence starts. I am convinced he wants it desperately, he has no where else to go.

So far we have kept him coralled.


195 posted on 09/21/2010 3:31:19 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Nachum

ohhhh bad


196 posted on 09/21/2010 3:33:08 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: reg45

yes...


197 posted on 09/21/2010 3:34:39 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

When your grandmother told you the family legend that you all are descendants of Virginia Dare’s, did she say anything about your Native American ancestors being Welsh-speaking Indians? There were several (unconfirmed) 17th and 18th century accounts of European explorers and settlers running into Welsh-speaking, gray-eyed Indians in North Carolina and thereabouts (presumably descended from Roanoke colonists).


198 posted on 09/21/2010 3:39:54 PM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: Candor7

I think he will make even more mistakes though. His base is abandoning him and if he really is a pathological narcissist, which I am reasonably certain he is, he will get nasty and careless. He may get his wish for blood in the streets but he won’t get the outcome he desires from it.


199 posted on 09/21/2010 3:42:18 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: freespirited

You missed tequila.


200 posted on 09/21/2010 3:58:25 PM PDT by Cheburashka ("Tomorrow is another day." The first thing they teach you at calendar college.)
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