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Obama Says “Mexicans” Were Here Long Before the United States Was an Idea (Video)
Gateway Pundit ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2010 | Ken Pittman

Posted on 09/21/2010 12:48:37 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Gator113

The problem is, he doesn’t believe it’s yours.


51 posted on 09/21/2010 1:00:33 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Hojczyk
What a Dumb asshsole he is. They weren't "mexicans" they were Spanish subjects.
52 posted on 09/21/2010 1:00:38 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BipolarBob
The American Indians may dispute his claim.

Back when Mexico first gained its independence in 1810, we did. In fact, one of the reasons the U.S.-Mexican border is where it is today is because Mexico didn't want to deal with our Comanche, Hopi, Navajo and Apache cousins.

53 posted on 09/21/2010 1:00:38 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: beebuster2000

They were living in on of those 57 states he visited.


54 posted on 09/21/2010 1:00:50 PM PDT by True Grit
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To: Hojczyk

I guess he wants to give back the 57 states.


55 posted on 09/21/2010 1:00:51 PM PDT by pke
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To: Hojczyk

that “Mexicans” were here in America long before the United States

And that isn't out and out racism?

56 posted on 09/21/2010 1:01:02 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Hojczyk

ID10T


57 posted on 09/21/2010 1:01:30 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: indianrightwinger

Bingo.


58 posted on 09/21/2010 1:01:37 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: Hojczyk
What side is this guy on? This guy is an idiot. It is hard to believe this race is that close.
59 posted on 09/21/2010 1:02:19 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: Hojczyk
I heard that bit of the speech...I audibly called him an idiot and changed the channel.

What is amazing is that the libs keep trying to pass this guy off as some sort of genius. That's only by comparison with other liberals perhaps.

60 posted on 09/21/2010 1:02:50 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: RckyRaCoCo

November 2008


61 posted on 09/21/2010 1:02:55 PM PDT by albie
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To: Hojczyk

He has the temperament of a nine year old.

He has the global understanding of a nine year old.

He has the social skills of a nine year old.

He has the religions depth of a nine year old.

He has a nine year old’s level of history comprehension.

He only has the ability to read his speeches, a nine year old’s level of ability.

His vision of what the United State’s proper role in the world should be, is also that of a nine year old.

His understanding of the positive role the U. S. has played in the world is also pegged at... you guessed it, a nine year old’s level of understanding.

And that would be a nine year old from an Asian nation.

Any nine year old raised in the United States could see right through this pinhead’s unfortunate childishness.


62 posted on 09/21/2010 1:03:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (All hail Prince Skid-mark, Barack Hussein Obama, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: Hojczyk

Hey Freepers ... ease up on the poor Wee Wee ... it's not easy
governing all 57 states ... and solving all the world problems to boot

63 posted on 09/21/2010 1:03:10 PM PDT by Zakeet (Like the wise Wee Wee said, "We can't be broke ... we still have checks in the checkbook.")
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To: MortMan

You are correct.

Mr. Obama is the “Un-tool”.


64 posted on 09/21/2010 1:04:03 PM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: Hojczyk
Tell me they don't pay attention to FR. If I knew how to link it to the post I would

To: kristinn Something no one is hitting on is that "Mexicans" as he deliberately and forcefully says it, never were here before "America was even a idea" as a matter of fact Mexico just celebrated their 200th anniversary. American Indians Europeans,Africans they were all here, Mexicans were not. 26 posted on Monday, September 20, 2010 4:29:46 PM by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)

65 posted on 09/21/2010 1:05:41 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: trisham
He’s right! I’m pretty sure they were living in what is now our 57th state. LOL
66 posted on 09/21/2010 1:05:45 PM PDT by facedodge
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To: Hojczyk

Wonder how many of the 57 states the Mexicans settled before America was “thought of”....


67 posted on 09/21/2010 1:06:52 PM PDT by IMissPresidentReagan ("Sorry I'm late. I had to stop by the wax museum to give the finger to FDR!" C.Hill (Palin '12))
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To: Unam Sanctam
I believe Mexico would have been called New Spain before 1776.

Make that 1810 - the date when Mexico became independent of Spain.

The CIA World Fact Book (which 0bama must not have read) has the following entry for Mexico:

Independence:

16 September 1810 (declared); 27 September 1821 (recognized by Spain)

68 posted on 09/21/2010 1:07:06 PM PDT by reg45
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To: Hojczyk

**sigh**


69 posted on 09/21/2010 1:07:24 PM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: Zakeet
harumph. Well, I still think that the day "we" elected him was the day the Earth returned to it's proper axis, the seas began to recede and a light shone down on us from the heavenly ramparts.

Obama mmmm mmmmm mm

70 posted on 09/21/2010 1:07:38 PM PDT by atc23
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To: Hojczyk
::Facepalm::

The nation of Mexico wasn't an independent nation until 1821, prior to that it was just a colony of those evil Europeans, he Spaniards. That is well after 1776 Zero.

71 posted on 09/21/2010 1:08:42 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: crosshairs
They teach American History in Kenya and Indonesia?

Obviously not.

72 posted on 09/21/2010 1:08:50 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Hojczyk

Sure...and thus their justification for giving the SW back to Mexico.


73 posted on 09/21/2010 1:09:06 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: BipolarBob
The American Indians may dispute his claim.

I do.

74 posted on 09/21/2010 1:09:13 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Hojczyk

aren’t we finished with this POS pres_ _ent yet...he is truly a hater of our country and a very large part of it’s citizens!


75 posted on 09/21/2010 1:09:51 PM PDT by ldish (Looking forward to Independence Day)
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To: I cannot think of a name

They probably did not teach US or Mexican history at his madrassa.


76 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:01 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Hojczyk

Okay Bozo, kepp smokin’ whatever you’re smokin’ you idiot.


77 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:08 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Hojczyk
For liberals the birth of the United States is every bit as much a "naqba" as the birth of Israel. Liberals believe the USA is a foreign colonial implant on "Turtle Island," which allegedly belongs to "indigenous" Spanish-speaking sixteenth century inquisition-style Roman Catholics (who vote Dem).

The Left may invoke Marx but it long ago succumbed to early nineteenth century romantic German nationalism. People should stay in their mystical "motherlands" instead of being "foreign devils" in other peoples'.

And yet not one lib has ever suggesting dis-establishing the United States. Instead they want a totalitarian US government to make everything peachy for everybody.

78 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:11 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Sof davar hakol nishma`; 'et-Ha'Eloqim yera' ve'et-mitzvotayv shemor, ki-zeh kol-ha'adam.)
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To: Hojczyk

Niles Michigan would make his head explode. 4 seperate flags flew over that city inside of a year or two. (none of them “mexican”)


79 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Vigilanteman

I sure hope this POS leaves the White House in utter disgrace, otherwise revisionist historians will paint him as one of the best presidents we ever had..


80 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:55 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: tina07

*keep*


81 posted on 09/21/2010 1:10:55 PM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42-12/17/45, d. 11/1/85 -Happy B'day Daddy 2/20/23)
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To: Hojczyk

Is he an idiot, or what?


82 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:08 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Hojczyk

The TEXT of the speech says this:

“So let me close by saying this. Long before America was even an idea, this land of plenty was home to many peoples. To British and French, to Dutch and Spanish, to Mexican — (applause) — to countless Indian tribes. We all shared the same land. We didn’t always get along. But over the centuries, what eventually bound us together — what made us all Americans — was not a matter of blood, it wasn’t a matter of birth. It was faith and fidelity to the shared values that we all hold so dear. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed with certain inalienable rights: life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

I note he managed to not say “endowed by their Creator...”

Perhaps he said it differently at the podium.


83 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:25 PM PDT by Adder (Note to self: 11-2-10 Take out the Trash!!!)
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To: Hojczyk

He could screw up a ball bearing in a bucket of grease.


84 posted on 09/21/2010 1:11:57 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Hojczyk
Mexico 1821 -

USA 1783

He's a moron.

85 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (WTF happened to my country?? I joined the Marines and defended the USA and it degenerates into this?)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with each of your comments. But they are far too restrained. The usurper should be impeached.


86 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:31 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Unam Sanctam
Correct. It was New Spain until 1813.

In 1813, their declaration of independence was issued, under the name of America Septentrional or "Northern America" - in the sense of being the northern portion of Spain's former American possessions.

After years of war, Spain and America Septentrional signed a peace treaty in which the country was designated as the "Mexican Empire."

After two years of imperial rule, it became "The United Mexican States".

In 1836 the name was changed to the Republic of Mexico, and it has since been changed back to "The United Mexican States."

87 posted on 09/21/2010 1:12:33 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Hojczyk

Well, and even if that were true, they should be the country that everyone should be flocking to, since they got such a head start. Why is that not the case?


88 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:20 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Hojczyk

So were the Indians. His point is?


89 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:24 PM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Hojczyk

Put Obama on “Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader?”, lol

That’s ONE show with Obama on it that I’d actually watch.


90 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:30 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: mo

Mexico was like 1820 The USA was 1776. They copies our Constitution for their own—not a bad idea. But, their were people in what is today Mexico—BUT it was called New Spain!


91 posted on 09/21/2010 1:13:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Hojczyk
DUMB: "The Messicans were here long before whitey or any of those your-a-peons even thought about coming to America."

DUMBER: "I saw an old FDR TV show and he was saying the very same thing."


92 posted on 09/21/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And http://www.kiGod granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
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To: Hojczyk

Well as usual, he is either ignorant or hoping the American news reporters and a majority of the American public is ignorant.

While the SPANISH made colonies in North and South America prior to 1776 and while SPANISH military, SPANISH colonial administrators, and SPANISH Catholic missionaries were operating in parts of North America by 1776,

(1) the REAL Mexicans, the natives of Mexico WERE NOT a dominant part of those efforts (they were the peasants controlled by the Spanish colonialists who were no different than the other Europeans in North and South America) and

(2) the U.S. was a nation BEFORE “Mexico” was an independent nation and not a colony of Spain.

The ignorance of modern Americans - created by the American schools - allows “the Hispanic” activists to present the myth that modern day “Mexicans”, a society driven predominately from the descendants of its European Spanish colonial immigrants and, with SOME of those immigrants the natives they married, presents them collectively, with the same status as people like the Aztecs (nearly decimated) or many of the North American native tribes as “native” here, compared to the society of the United States.

Its a myth; their “nation” and their society is NO LESS a product of European colonialism than the rest of North America.

It’s a convenient myth, pushed by Hispanic activists and various Left wing and “open borders” types, in ignorance by many of them and as never-to-admit lies by those that know better.


93 posted on 09/21/2010 1:14:08 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Hojczyk

In 1870, the U.S. Census reports that the Arizona Territory has a population of 9,658.

The Salt River Valley [Phoenix] has a population of 240, which included 115 Hispanics.


94 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:25 PM PDT by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Marxism, Communism, Socialism, Fascism, Islam-ism)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m sure if you read his copy of the “History of the 57 US States”, he’s right. I’m sure it’s right in there.

This guy supposedly is educated? I don’t believe it. He’s a vapor.


95 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:45 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Hojczyk

Memo to the AnnointedIdiot: And? So? =.=


96 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:54 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Hojczyk

I’m sure if you read his copy of the “History of the 57 US States”, he’s right. I’m sure it’s right in there.

This guy supposedly is educated? I don’t believe it. He’s a vapor.


97 posted on 09/21/2010 1:15:54 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Hojczyk; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ..

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98 posted on 09/21/2010 1:16:45 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Zakeet
ease up on the poor Wee Wee

Wee Wee's Big Adventure, I see...

99 posted on 09/21/2010 1:17:27 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: dirtboy

For sure some Mexicans had wandered up long before any Kenyans got here, anyone tell him that?


100 posted on 09/21/2010 1:17:49 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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