Red China: Wen threatens Japan over captain

The Telegraph ^ | 9/22/2010

[AmericanInTokyo]

lol . how politically correct, and classic at the same time... ;-)

[AmericanInTokyo]

correction: “politically INcorrect”...it has been one long, mean day

[tet68]

The incident had “stired up anger for the entire Chinese people at home and abroad”, Mr Wen said.

You’d think a koran was burned or something, this is
thug blackmail just like Islam. The Chinese are taking
a page right out of the koran.

Next thing you know they’ll be saying it’s meddling
in Chinese “Internal affairs”.

[Joe Boucher]

Couldn’t agree more J.Edgar.

Also why wouldn’t you accept my collect calls to headquarters when I’d get drunk and call when I was a kid?

[ckilmer]

The japanese have apologized numerous times.

[VanShuyten]

This is a typical response of a dictatorship faced with mounting internal problems. To deflect the Chinese people's outrage over housing bubbles, government corruption, business nepotism, graft and fraud, unemployment among displaced rural folk, poor working conditions, and the like, the government is trying to deflect attention to an outside "aggressor."

My nephew is in China right now studying Chinese, and he is worried about the rising "anti-foreigner" sentiment being pushed by the government. Don't be surprised when the failure of over-extended Chinese businesses gets blamed on American trade practices instead of the corrupt internal business system. That's what he sees coming next.

[1010RD]

I’ve pinged PSS who lives part time in China for his input on your comment in #26.

[Stentor]

My favorite TV episode ended with “Anybody want to join the Saudi Arabia branch of the Mystic Knights of the Sea?

[PugetSoundSoldier]

As recently as 2007 you had members of the Diet (the Japanese equivalent of our National Congress) denying the rape of Nanjing ever happened (WARNING - explicit information and photos at the link). That doesn't help the situation at all.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

My nephew is in China right now studying Chinese, and he is worried about the rising "anti-foreigner" sentiment being pushed by the government.

News to me... I live half-time (4-7 weeks there, 4-7 weeks back) in China, and I haven't read or seen any anti-foreigner sentiment. About the only place I see that is around Nanjing, if you're Japanese (understandable), but otherwise the ones who appear to be afraid of me are usually children who've never met a gao da lao wai.

Don't be surprised when the failure of over-extended Chinese businesses gets blamed on American trade practices instead of the corrupt internal business system.

Doesn't happen, though... Too much face lost. Old families do everything they can to deflect that, including selling the company or breaking it apart (I've seen it happen a few times with huge ex-Government companies that were given to politically favored people).

Your typical Chinese line worker knows that if the company has problems it's their boss, not the clients to blame. They know how financing works in China, and that for 99% of foreign clients is money-up-front.

There is unrest about unemployment in the West, but it's not OVER the unemployment rate; it's over the restrictions on immigration to the East, to the factories. It's limited, and that means only so many people can move off the farms and into the much better paying (and better conditions) factories. I hear that a lot, how the local mayor is playing favorites with his allotment of immigration allowances.

What area is your nephew in? It's always good to meet fellow Mei guo ren in Zhong guo.

[AmericanInTokyo]

So what? You had members of the US Congress there who had been there since the sixties, who would still insist that the Vietnam War was a war of American Atrocity toward peaceful Vietnames people (Pete Stark, Ron Dellums). That does not make them representative of all elected members of the US Congress.

There are all shades of Japanese Dietmemember from Yasukuni Shrine-worshipping types on the extreme Imperialist side, to out and out Marxists in the JCP and SDJP parties, some with even communist radical backgrounds in university. And everything in between.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

How many members of Congress deny the Holocaust? Or deny the firebombing of Dresden? Or the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?

That’s more along the lines of what those Diet members said.

[AmericanInTokyo]

How many of them would deny the excesses of Che with the Cuban firing squads? How many would wash over Mao Tse Tung and his great "social experiments"? How many would turn a blind eye and say nothing about Hugo Chavez crackdown on freedom of press and arrest or assassination of anti-Chavez leaders? How many would not bring up or stubbornly refuse discussion about the atrocities of Sandinista soldiers in the countryside under Humberto Ortega? How many said (initially) the average Cambodians streaming out of there into Thailand were lying about Pol Pot and red massacres. There would be no shortage of socialist/commie Lib Dems in our own US House of Representatives that would deny all of these, even if pressed.

[PugetSoundSoldier]

Your analogies don’t hold - the atrocities denied by those Diet members were committed by the Japanese, not another nation.

Do any Congressional members deny the Dresden firebombing, the existence of Jim Crow laws, of the atomic bombing of Japan?

[AmericanInTokyo]

一颗老鼠屎坏了一锅粥

Is simply the point I am trying to make, as you might well grasp.