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(Maine) Panel rules against Orono school in transgender bathroom access
Bangor Daily News ^ | 9/20/2010 | Heather Steeves

Posted on 09/22/2010 9:40:56 AM PDT by markomalley

AUGUSTA, Maine — The Maine Human Rights Commission ruled Monday that Orono Middle School unlawfully discriminated against a sixth-grader during the 2008-2009 school year by not letting the male-to-female transgender student use the girls’ bathroom.

This is the same student whose parents filed a similar discrimination complaint against Asa Adams Elementary School in Orono when their child was a fifth grader there during the 2007-2008 school year. That case resulted in the same ruling against the school district in June 2009.

Also Monday, the commission members again began talks about developing anti-discrimination guidelines specifically for schools under the Maine Human Rights Act.

The parents of the child, who no longer attends schools in the district, wrote in their latest complaint to the commission that she experienced anxiety and depression after officials at Orono Middle School forced her to use a gender-neutral bathroom and her peers picked on her.

“In choosing to disallow [her] to use the girls’ bathroom facilities, the school was implicitly isolating and alienating her from other students,” the parents wrote. “We determined that we needed to modify our actions to do the best we could to ensure [our child’s] safety.”

The school’s response stated that the district accommodated the child by training the staff, educating the students, giving the transgender student her own bathroom, giving her her own locker room and meeting with her parents almost daily.

“For the most part, she appeared to be happy and involved in the school community,” the school district wrote.

In addition to the bathroom complaint, the student’s family alleged that Orono Middle School subjected her to a hostile educational environment.

The commission’s investigator did cite in her report derogatory remarks made by other students as well as several allegations of stalking by a boy who once followed the transgender student into the girls room and harassed her by calling her “faggot.”

But the commissioners agreed with the investigator that there were “no reasonable grounds” to believe the school subjected the student to a hostile educational environment.

Neither side was in attendance at Monday’s meeting because neither party filed a letter of disagreement with the commission investigator’s report.

“I don’t think it changes anything,” the school district’s lawyer, Melissa Hewey, said regarding the commission’s decision. “I think it’s a good ruling in that it recognized the efforts the school went through to help the student in terms of the harassment issue. The bathroom issue is something the court has to rule on.”

The district is currently fighting a lawsuit against the child’s family in Penobscot County Superior Court. The new decision against the middle school will likely be added to the lawsuit, which was filed after the commission’s ruling in the Asa Adams case.

Hewey said the Orono school district has not changed its policies.

“The student is not there, so it is currently not an issue,” Hewey said.

She said no other students in the district have since asked for accommodations related to their gender.

The family’s lawyer said Monday that they filed the human rights complaint against Orono Middle School because the school’s policies remain unchanged.

“[Orono Middle School] continued to discriminate against the child after the last [commission] decision. It is clear we have to pursue this further to get them to comply,” attorney Jodi Nofsinger said Monday after the ruling.

Nofsinger said the legal battle stretched beyond this one child and is more about making the Orono schools comfortable educational environments for other transgender children who might attend the schools in the future.

“They continue [discrimination] up until the present time. They are in violation to the law,” Nofsinger said. “The school’s policy still has not changed.”

Members of the Maine Human Rights Commission also discussed Monday plans to work in coordination with the state education commissioner to develop rules regarding sexual orientation, race, national origin and disabilities as they apply to education under the Maine Human Rights Act. Currently, the Maine Human Rights act does not have antidiscrimination policies in those areas. Talks regarding rule-making should begin in early 2011, after the gubernatorial election and after a new administration is in place, according to Patricia Ryan, the executive director of the Human Rights Commission.


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1 posted on 09/22/2010 9:40:58 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

If it is male from the waist down it should use the appropriate facilities.


2 posted on 09/22/2010 9:43:14 AM PDT by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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To: markomalley
Am I reading this right?
A sixth-grade transgender?
3 posted on 09/22/2010 9:43:37 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: markomalley
Everyone involved seems to be referring to him as "she" or "her."

If the boy in question thought he was Napoleon, would they be referring to him as "his Majesty" or "his serene Highness"?

No.

This is the only form of mental illness where sane people are supposed to pretend that they're the ones who are crazy.

4 posted on 09/22/2010 9:46:48 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: markomalley
Nofsinger said the legal battle stretched beyond this one child and is more about making the Orono schools comfortable educational environments for other transgender children who might attend the schools in the future.

Gee, how about making it a comfortable environment for all the 'normal' children that already attend that school?

5 posted on 09/22/2010 9:47:11 AM PDT by Netizen
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To: markomalley
she experienced anxiety and depression after officials at Orono Middle School forced her to use a gender-neutral bathroom and her peers picked on her.

Well, that is nothing compared to the anxiety and depression that would result from "her" whipping it out in the girls locker room or bathroom.

6 posted on 09/22/2010 9:48:31 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: wideawake

Your comment is the best way I’ve ever seen this phrased.


7 posted on 09/22/2010 9:49:48 AM PDT by wolfpat (Veni. Vidi. Veneer: I came. I saw. I made plywood.)
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More insanity. This 6th grade boy is not a "transgender". He is mentally and emotionally confused and what his parents are doing is flat out abuse. And the court are fostering the abuse.

8 posted on 09/22/2010 9:58:31 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: markomalley

They are letting a sixth grader determine he has a “gender identity” problem! We need a revolution while there is anything left worth saving.


9 posted on 09/22/2010 10:02:31 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: markomalley
A sixth-grader?
10 posted on 09/22/2010 10:09:10 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (my former tagline "We can, and we will prevail" doesn't fit with the usurper's goals.)
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To: markomalley

Where are the Conservative politicians on this?

Do they need to take a poll to determine that we don’t want this at all?

I’m in Maine, and this isn’t the only case where the Democrats in charge think that you can just decide what sex you are.

Wail on the Democrats. Win votes. Do not let up.


11 posted on 09/22/2010 10:11:09 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Christine! Help!


12 posted on 09/22/2010 10:12:03 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: wideawake

First, win on transsexuals.

They are clearly CRAZY PEOPLE WHO NEED MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

Win on this.

Then, because the Gays were so welcoming to transsexuals.

Gays are clearly CRAZY PEOPLE WHO NEED MENTAL HEALTH CARE.

Win on this.

Christine! Help!

Can no one speak for the 3/4s of Americans who know what is right on this one?

Are there NO socially conservative politicians?


13 posted on 09/22/2010 10:15:22 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: wideawake

They’d be letting him run France.


14 posted on 09/22/2010 10:16:52 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: DJ MacWoW

There is a Maine Human Rights Commission. The members of this commission are appointed by the Governor, who is a Democrat.

The Democrats have determined that men are women in certain cases, against all science, reason, common sense, decency, etc.


15 posted on 09/22/2010 10:19:22 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: markomalley

These parents should be locked up for child abuse.


16 posted on 09/22/2010 10:20:51 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: markomalley

The other parents should file suits to stop this idiocy on the grounds that their perfectly normal daughters will be traumatized by the intrusion of a biological male in their intimate space.

This mentally ill child and his enabler parents may think of him as a female, but the rest of the world is not obligated to indulge their pathology.


17 posted on 09/22/2010 10:21:40 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: truthfreedom
The Democrats have determined that men are women in certain cases,

Yeah. I got that. The problem is DNA that says differently. It doesn't matter what the voices in their heads are telling them. Science says that the "voices" are lying.

18 posted on 09/22/2010 10:23:57 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: ComputerGuy

I call BS on this whole subject for the very reason that we’re talking about a 6th grade “transgender”.

Whatever mental/emotional/physical issues experienced by “transgendered” people, it is a subject to be dealt with when such people are adults, not when they are still growing and developing.

To somehow tie an issue with a child in school in with the whole gay/lesbian/whatever movement is asinine.

I also think that these issues are completely beyond the scope of schools to deal with. If someone has these issues, he/she/it needs to deal with them after he/she/it is an adult. It’s such a simple concept, yet any common sense apparently doesn’t exist anymore in this country.

And I would love to know if the parents are of a liberal/radical bent. None of this could happen without the express consent of the parents to press the issue.


19 posted on 09/22/2010 10:26:06 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: wideawake

Other conditions:

Transracial. You’re white. But you FEEL black. Your grades and SATs aren’t good. You fill out black on your college application. You get in. You get called on it.
“What, but I FEEL black on the inside. Therefore, I’m black.”

Transspecies. You’re a dude who is arrested for public urination. Solution: You’re a dog. You don’t arrest dogs for peeing outside.

There is no end to this.

I read a story somewhere about organic cotton. Organic cotton is expensive. Cotton growers don’t want to grow organic cotton because it’s too expensive to grow and process. But they like that organic cotton fetches more in the marketplace. They want to use GMO cotton. Roundup ready cotton or whatever they come up with. Their solution: change the meaning of organic.

Stop changing the meaning of words to make the world worse for most people. Men are men and women are women. It’s scientific fact in the chromosomes. But the government wants to decree otherwise. Let’s change the meaning of marriage so that crazy people can get privileges. Let’s make it impossible for consumers to buy organic cotton by defining it out of existence and enriching Monsanto in the process.

No more. Our enemies are sick and evil people.

Christine! Help!


20 posted on 09/22/2010 10:28:07 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: DJ MacWoW

Absolutely correct.

We need to fight this one hard. This is one we win.

Gay is one we win as well, but it’s closer.

We win the transsexual debate in a landslide if anyone could bring it up.


21 posted on 09/22/2010 10:30:20 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: markomalley

The HRC wants grown men to be made to use the same bathroom as little girls too, unisex bathrooms.


22 posted on 09/22/2010 10:33:20 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: markomalley; DJ MacWoW; trisham; samiam1972; BykrBayb; metmom

If stuff like this is allowed you are going to see just about EVERY boy decide that he is “transgendered” right around the time he hits puberty as long as it means that he can start using the girls locker room.


23 posted on 09/22/2010 10:37:36 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley
What about the basic common decency of allowing the boys & girls to have some privacy in the bathroom, free from the sexually confused? And how do you accommodate a BISEXUAL?

Idea: Line the hall with portable toilets. These can also be used by the school staff who will eventually have the same problem.

Bring your own t-paper, seat liner, disinfectants, & gas mask.

24 posted on 09/22/2010 10:38:41 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: wideawake
"How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

Abraham Lincoln

25 posted on 09/22/2010 10:50:06 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: NonValueAdded

Next he will be demanding that the school install urinals in the girls bathroom.


26 posted on 09/22/2010 10:52:04 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: markomalley

I want to know where LePage stands on this and where Mitchell stands on this.

There’s a Governor’s election right around the corner.

These people making this very ruling are appointed by the Governor.


27 posted on 09/22/2010 10:56:02 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: markomalley

You mean to tell me there are parents stupid enough to let their 5th grade child undergo a sex change operation? They should both be jailed for child endangerment, or shot, shot probably being the most appropriate punishment.


28 posted on 09/22/2010 11:17:21 AM PDT by calex59
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To: wagglebee

This will backfire on them. In way they can’t imagine.


29 posted on 09/22/2010 11:34:23 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: markomalley
this poor child is NOT being helped by her parents....and if I were the parents of children at that school, I would tell them NOT to use the bathroom if this girl/boy is using it...

why do other people's rights get trashed to protect one persons' rights..??

30 posted on 09/22/2010 11:34:49 AM PDT by cherry
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To: ComputerGuy

who knows their “transgender” at that age?....I think the parents are pushing this kid in a direction.....


31 posted on 09/22/2010 11:37:33 AM PDT by cherry
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To: JenB

I wonder how the public school defenders are going to spin this one?

Sending your kids to public school is child abuse.....


32 posted on 09/22/2010 12:10:46 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; Aggie Mama; agrace; AliVeritas; AlmaKing; AngieGal; ...

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

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Possibly also Another Reason Not To Live In Maine

33 posted on 09/22/2010 12:37:08 PM PDT by JenB
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To: Netizen
Gee, how about making it a comfortable environment for all the 'normal' children that already attend that school?

That was my thought as well.

Time to reprogram the little bigots, dontcha know?

34 posted on 09/22/2010 12:39:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: markomalley

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Black Collar Crime!

The judiciary is dismantling our culture and constitution with impunity.
.


35 posted on 09/22/2010 12:47:12 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: cherry

Could it be that the “girl” is a pre-operation hermaphrodite ?

That seems like the only legitimate cause for this suit.

If this is something the parents are pushing on a normal boy or girl, they should be imprisoned for child abuse.


36 posted on 09/22/2010 12:49:23 PM PDT by jimt
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To: truthfreedom

OK, I give up. Who’s Christine, and how can she help us?


37 posted on 09/22/2010 12:50:47 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: JenB

> “Possibly also Another Reason Not To Live In Maine”

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Or Massachusetts, Wisconsin, Oregon, or California, all of which are on this chute into the septic tank.
.


38 posted on 09/22/2010 12:52:13 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: truthfreedom

OK, never mind, I see you’re referring to Christine O’Donnell.


39 posted on 09/22/2010 12:56:40 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: markomalley

Can’t we make Maine become part of Canada? They’d fit in better with the weenies in Canada, and the Maine sisters could run for whatever entity it is that wastes Canadian money and does dumb Canadian things.

And we’ll let the Canadians worry about little boys who want to be girls but have wieners...


40 posted on 09/22/2010 1:17:17 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: markomalley

The girls at my school would have simply thrown “his” @$$ out if “he” tried to come in.


41 posted on 09/22/2010 1:27:41 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (We'll remember in November!)
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To: Tired of Taxes

She’s one of the few Christians left in the Republican Party apparently.


42 posted on 09/22/2010 1:35:53 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: JenB

It’s another reason to vote for LePage if you live in Maine.

This “board” is appointed by the Governor. There hasn’t been a Republican Governor in Maine in 16 years.


43 posted on 09/22/2010 1:37:57 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: NonValueAdded

“Her” is not a “Her”. When one has a penis and testicles they are a MALE!!!!!


44 posted on 09/22/2010 1:41:33 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

I know that, hence the quote marks.


45 posted on 09/22/2010 1:51:24 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: NonValueAdded

I was aiming that at the morons involved with this issue.They need to quit calling him a “her”.


46 posted on 09/22/2010 1:56:58 PM PDT by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord,For His Name Alone Is Exaulted)
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To: wideawake

Ever see They Might Be Giants? It’s a movie where George C. Scott lives as Sherlock Holmes in NYC. It’s tag line is “who’s reality is right”. The title comes from Don Quixote, who tilted at windmills because “they might be giants”. Well they weren’t bleeping giants and Quixote was crazy. Next up will students with Ethnic Identity Disorder demand to use the Colored Only Bath Room?


47 posted on 09/22/2010 1:59:19 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: markomalley
Orono Middle School
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Does anyone know where this school is located? I am willing to bet it is in a middle to upper class area and would be considered a “good” government school.

Have Freepers noticed? Most of these school outrage stories are in schools that would be considered to be “good” schools in “good” areas.

So?....With outrageous school stories **every** day ( usually several different articles involving multiple government schools ), why would any idiot of a parent think that their child's government school is somehow different?

48 posted on 09/22/2010 2:17:56 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Mr Rogers

The conservatives of Maine are fighting the liberals here in Maine just like everywhere else.

Paul LePage, a good, solid, tea party conservative Republican, is running for Governor and is up by 10-15 in the polls.


49 posted on 09/22/2010 2:31:52 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: wintertime

Orono is a suburb of Bangor. Bangor is the 2nd largest city in Maine. Orono is where the University of Maine is.


50 posted on 09/22/2010 2:32:59 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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