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New photos show Bishop Eddie Long in revealing light
The Daily Voice ^ | Sept 22, 2010 | Staff Reporter

Posted on 09/22/2010 9:09:18 PM PDT by DesertRenegade

New photos purportedly show Atlanta megachurch pastor Eddie Long posing in a bathroom mirror with muscle shirts. The photos were allegedly sent to at least one of the three young men who have filed lawsuits against Long in recent days for sexual harassment. In one photo, Long is shown wearing a sleeveless black muscle shirt and tight black shorts. In the other, he is wearing a short-sleeve red muscle shirt with jeans.

The photos themselves do not prove the plaintiffs' allegations, but they do raise questions about the minister's conduct and his relationship with the young men at the heart of the case.

Long, a married father of four, is known as a fierce opponent of gay rights and same-sex marriage and led a march against marriage equality rights from the site of Dr. Martin Luther King's gravesite years ago.

The new images were first released by ABC News in its Wednesday evening broadcast and have been circulating across the Internet since that time.

The men involved in the suits claim that Long wined and dined them, took them on expensive vacations across the world and sexually abused them during his relationships with them. Long, the church and his lawyers deny the allegations.

Long pastors the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Lithonia, Georgia, a church he built from 300 members to more than 25,000, according to recent reports.

But members of the church who were interviewed by reporters expressed their continued support for Rev. Long and denied allegations against him.

The story has made major headlines in the Atlanta area, and Long has already suffered at least some fallout. At least one prominent political official, Democratic gubernatorial candidate Roy Barnes, has reportedly canceled a fundraising event scheduled to take place with Long.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; pederasty; pedophilia; sodomy; ybpdln
If homosexuals want to practice their perverted lifestyle in private, then so be it. But when they start procuring young teen boys and sexually predating on them, enough is enough. Yes, I understand that the "down-low" lifestyle has long been acknowledged in the African-American church, but this goes beyond anything previous and incites an outrage of decency. It is almost like once these preachers gain enough money, they want to indulge their most outrageous homosexual desires. I thought the whole Ted Haggard thing was revolting, but this case looks even worse. Why would any parent let young vulnerable teen boys overnight alone with any single older man? The parents deserve some responsibility for this tragedy too.
1 posted on 09/22/2010 9:09:22 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

Apparently this slime was a big time Obama supporter too .... what a surprise (NOT!).


2 posted on 09/22/2010 9:11:55 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade

It’s kinda like letting your voting age daughter
go on a date with Bill Clinton...


3 posted on 09/22/2010 9:12:09 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: DesertRenegade

What you said.


4 posted on 09/22/2010 9:13:48 PM PDT by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
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To: 999replies

What preacher sends muscle shirt toilet pictures to teen boys? Hello? The homosexuals will try to condemn him as a ‘hypocrite’. But in reality it only confirms how destructive and perverted the whole lifestyle is in the first place.


5 posted on 09/22/2010 9:16:11 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: DesertRenegade
The current Democrat candidate for Governor, Roy Barnes (a former Governor also), quickly had to cancel a fund raiser the Bishop Long was slated to host. The Bishop had donated $5,000.00 to Roy Barnes, indicating they were definitely in bed together. That may be a poor choice of words but Roy Barnes shows a poor choice of friends.
6 posted on 09/22/2010 9:20:37 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: DesertRenegade

A-Has there been a trial yet?

B-The lawsuit was filed by adults, not teens.

I have no opinion on Eddie Long one way or another I do think proclaiming anyone guilty before all of the facts are brought to light is unwise.

Let Long and these two young men have their day in court.


7 posted on 09/22/2010 9:21:22 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: DesertRenegade

I would venture to say that he has a very low self esteem issue, maybe related to age. Men at this age who take pics of themselves are wanting to see how they look compared to others, probably younger than themselves. The have issues, how many issues is probably going to come to light.

He would be better served if he checked to see how his heart measured up. He’s supposed to be lifting up Jesus, not himself.


8 posted on 09/22/2010 9:25:26 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: grame

Disgraced pastor Ted Haggard is now stepping forward to defend this guy. Not a good sign: http://3.ly/BD7X


9 posted on 09/22/2010 9:26:32 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: padre35

Is it even technically illegal for a Bishop to have sex with 16 or 17 year old boys? What exactly are the charges in the lawsuit? Maybe it is civil and not criminal.


10 posted on 09/22/2010 9:27:55 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: padre35

I hope he will do the decent thing and resign from his position until this pass. I used to watch him until it appeared to me that his overall persona became more about his physique than humility and the Word.


11 posted on 09/22/2010 9:29:17 PM PDT by swheats (We were born for such a time as this. Let's Roll!)
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To: DesertRenegade

GUILTY!!!!

12 posted on 09/22/2010 9:31:36 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: swheats

I sort of noticed that as well, Eddie Long liked to lift weights and was a large man.

Resign?

Do not know if that is what he should do as if he truly believes he is in his calling then stepping back would be denying that calling if I’m being clear?

I do think he showed extraordinarily poor judgment,whether those allegations have merit or not, but that is one of the problems of Mega Churches, the Pastor (I think his title is Bishop) or whomever is the focal point of the Church and they have to be above reproach at all times.


13 posted on 09/22/2010 9:34:31 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35
"proclaiming anyone guilty before all of the facts are brought to light is unwise." "Let Long and these two young men have their day in court"

It's impossible to know when all of the facts are brought to light so now is as good a time to opine as any. They will have their day in court, no words posted here can change that in the least.

Just my take.


14 posted on 09/22/2010 9:37:53 PM PDT by I see my hands (Unintentionally not left blank)
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To: DesertRenegade

This Bishop is married w/ 4 children.


15 posted on 09/22/2010 9:46:00 PM PDT by Tamar1973 (Germans in 1932 thought they were voting for change too.)
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To: DesertRenegade

Well maybe it takes one to know one, and maybe this public revelation will be a turning point for him, if he turns in the right direction. Mr Haggard knows the scorn he felt for the deception he masqueraded under and the freedom he felt hopefully when it was unmasked. I would like to think the best from this point forward. I’m glad these young men had the courage to come fwd.


16 posted on 09/22/2010 9:49:03 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: grame

Good point. I hope none of the young teen boys went on to choose the homosexual lifestyle. Authority figures can have a tremendous impact on youth, both positive and negative. Few public figures have the guts to speak out about homosexuals like Dr. Laura when she said that adult gay men are obsessed with young boys. I don’t know what is is about their lifestyle choice, but it doesn’t take a genius to see that their choices are incredibly unhealthy.


17 posted on 09/22/2010 10:03:57 PM PDT by DesertRenegade
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To: Tamar1973

*This Bishop is married w/ 4 children.*

Sure, there’s never been a married man who liked little boys on the side.


18 posted on 09/22/2010 10:34:58 PM PDT by j-damn
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To: DesertRenegade

I haven’t seen all the evidence on this, but these pictures look unseemly to say the least.

What I am wondering is: what kind of Baptist church was this that he was a “Bishop”? I wonder if he just gave himself that title, because I’ve never heard of a Baptist Bishop before this.


19 posted on 09/22/2010 10:37:06 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DesertRenegade
Wasn't every Black preacher in America an Obama supporter?
20 posted on 09/22/2010 10:41:00 PM PDT by no dems (DeMINT / PALIN 2012 or PALIN / DeMINT 2012.......Either is fine with me!)
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To: DesertRenegade
Maybe it isn't so much their lifestyle choice, but the choices they make to follow the lusts in their lives. And then their positions give them access they wouldn't have in another venue. And maybe with the sexual revolution of the sixties, there is less shame and humiliation perceived with this type of sin. I don't believe most people honestly realize how sexualized our society is. I'm embarrased every day by something I see in public. Pornography used to have to be covered to be sent through the mail, but now catalogs and mainstream magazines have more suggestive covers than were ever hustled on the front of a porno magazine. And it has been around so long many, too many, see it as the norm. When in reality the sexual part of our life should be a small, albeit vital part of our lives. Now it is looming large at every turn, and has lost it's vitality and it's purpose in uniting two as one. There is nothing ‘special’ about it.
21 posted on 09/22/2010 10:45:32 PM PDT by grame (May you know more of the love of God Almighty this day!)
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To: padre35
Let Long and these two young men have their day in court.

I think they've already tried each other.

22 posted on 09/22/2010 10:50:14 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: padre35

Eddie Long seems mainly concerned with holding his Bishopric.


23 posted on 09/22/2010 11:21:18 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: j-damn
The first homo I ever heard of was an ex semi pro football player and had a wife and 3 kids. He kept trying to sponsor a teen boy band in my town. There were many "try outs" in his garage. One of my friends "tried out" and it wasn't his guitar he wanted. He was arrested shortly there after.

For every flamer that talks funny, there is a guy that pumps iron, goes fishing, and looks like anybody else. You can't tell just by looking.

24 posted on 09/23/2010 2:00:54 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: DesertRenegade
. . . a fierce opponent of gay rights and same-sex marriage . . .

This is what all the PR is about. If he had taken the right (i.e., the left) position on these so-called rights, there would not have been a lawsuit at all, much less non-stop CNN coverage of it.

25 posted on 09/23/2010 4:36:43 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: DesertRenegade

But the media keeps telling me only Catholic priests do things like this. Whom to believe hmmmmmmmm?


26 posted on 09/23/2010 4:49:13 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: DesertRenegade

This is a civil lawsuit as the two were not minors when this allegedly happened.


27 posted on 09/23/2010 5:01:42 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: I see my hands

Eh, and this is an opinion forum...:D

For example, recall how the media hopped on Tom DeLay?


28 posted on 09/23/2010 5:04:10 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Migraine

Based on...what?

The OP is clearly erroneous, what facts do you base that on?

Hope? Dislike the guy? What?


29 posted on 09/23/2010 5:07:03 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: padre35
Do not know if that is what he should do as if he truly believes he is in his calling then stepping back would be denying that calling if I’m being clear?

This way of thinking seems to be endemic in certain Charismatic/Pentecostal circles. I remember how Jim Bakker was staunchly defended by those who proclaimed: "Touch not the Lord's annointed!" The error lies in the attitude that their defining doctrine regarding being "spirit-filled" trumps all else - unfortunately even the responsibility to live morally upright lives. This leads to turning a blind eye to the abuse of power, financial, moral and otherwise.

This pastor's self-perception as to his "calling" must not be considered the determinative factor. The charges constitute grave moral failure, and if they are substantiated, he has proven himself to be a wolf in sheep's clothing, and should not be in a position of church leadership.

30 posted on 09/23/2010 5:22:42 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: tjd1454

“..the CHARGES constitute a grave moral failure..”

Since when do mere accusations equate to any sort of proof..of anything immoral?

Assuming one is a Christian (as I cannot assume one way or another) what was Paul’s reaction to being falsely accused?

Did he stop preaching the gospel? Hire an attorney?

What did he tell the warden who had him whipped?


31 posted on 09/23/2010 5:33:48 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: DesertRenegade
Eddie Long on the DOWN LOW???.... say its not so...
A grown man being called Eddie is questionable... I guess..

Others fleecing the flock is as questionable as well, I suppose...
Theres much sin available to the verbal sneak thieves evidently..
Used Jesus Salesmen must kick the tires to make a sale.. to the unwary..

32 posted on 09/23/2010 5:54:56 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: padre35

It was a play on the words of a punchline of a joke I heard 48 years ago. It wasn’t about evidence. I don’t take it nearly as seriously as you do.

I will say, however, that I enjoyed this issue a lot more when it was still in the closet. I am fed up with the fact that this issue is placed front and center, almost daily, when its principal adherents comprise such a miniscule segment of our society.


33 posted on 09/23/2010 10:48:11 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: padre35
Since when do mere accusations equate to any sort of proof..of anything immoral? Assuming one is a Christian (as I cannot assume one way or another) what was Paul’s reaction to being falsely accused? Did he stop preaching the gospel? Hire an attorney? What did he tell the warden who had him whipped?

You quote selectively. I continued: "if they are substantiated..."

Of course accusations do not equal proof. Let the man have his day in court.

My question for you would be: What will you have to say if the charges are proven, or if at some point the pastor admits they are true? Will you defend his "right" to continue in the ministry?

As for the Apostle Paul, I am quite certain he would not for a moment have countenanced someone guilty of such egregious sinful acts (if he is indeed guilty) to remain as a church member in good standing, let alone a shepherd at the head of the flock.

In 1 Corinthians 5:1-2 Paul addresses a situation involving sexual morality that is remarkably applicable to this situation: "It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and immorality of such a kind as does not exist even among the Gentiles, that someone has his father's wife."

"You have become arrogant and have not mourned instead, so that the one who had done this deed would be removed from your midst."

Sadly, all denominations have been guilty of failing to deal with open, blatant sin in their midst. By way of clarification, all Christians - including pastors - continue to sin, but there is a difference between, say, a pastor admitting to occasional feelings of jealousy, envy, anger issues, etc., and admitting to having an inappropriate sexual relationship with a person other than his wife. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know the difference.

I referred in particular to some in the Charismatic/Pentecostal tradition being guilty of "arrogance" in failing to remove pastors/leaders who are guilty of moral failure. They excuse such behavior because the individual is believed to be "annointed" because they have "given evidence" of having been "baptized with the Holy Spirit with evidence of speaking in tongues", etc."

Unfortunately, they wrongly elevate their particular doctrine of the Holy Spirit over all other doctrinal or ethical considerations. I speak from personal experience, having spent many years attending pentecostal/charismatic churches. At the same time, I know of many dear, devoted Christians in that tradition who would nevertheless have sufficient spiritual discernment in such matters.

34 posted on 09/23/2010 10:53:28 AM PDT by tjd1454
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To: Tamar1973

Jim McGreevey was married with 2 children ...


35 posted on 09/23/2010 10:54:20 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: tjd1454
After laying the accusation and in the previous sentence comparing Long to the convicted Jim Bakker?

Please, one uses the invective of guilt, insert a 5 word “if” clause then act as if your other words are of no account.

“if” these charges are substantiated, whether in court, or in a out of court settlement, there should be a meeting of Elders to decide whether to depose him or not, as Paul stated in the very passage you reference.

I have -0- problem with that happening in fact it has to happen if the man is guilty as the Church is supposed to handle issues and scandals among it's members or Hierarchy inhouse and not “be judged by pagan judges”.

We are to decide matters such as these among ourselves, certainly the instructions in Timothy would call for his disqualification from Ministry in that Church.

As for stepping aside, Paul said simply he did not care if Christ was preached from selfish motives (Philippians 1:15-19) as long as Christ was preached.

And I do find myself in agreement with your view that Pentecostal/Holy Spirit Churches have been lax in dealing with members who clearly go out of bounds, I suspect, but do not know, that the reasons for that are largely financial.

Some are more Entertainers than Righteous Leaders and sell the gamut of products from DVD’s to Books and that is a shame on those Congregations in my view.

Of course such members would probably simply smile and say:

“King David had Uriah killed so he could lay with his wife and the Lord restored him”

Truly it is a bad situation.

Excuse the length of my response, I felt it was needful to explain where I am coming from. Imho to often Christians are willing to toss other Christians under the bus far to hastily and it troubles me.

That is what the World does.

36 posted on 09/23/2010 12:42:46 PM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: KoRn

It’s difficult to imagine why a straight man would send a picture such as that to another male, regardless of age.


37 posted on 09/23/2010 12:46:45 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: DesertRenegade; Buckhead; TankerKC; Howlin
Apparently this slime was a big time Obama supporter too .... what a surprise (NOT!).

No, no, no! You've got it all wrong. Just look at the pics CBS chose to use:

LOL. Five of the 15 pics show George or Laura Bush.

That's Rather strange.

38 posted on 09/23/2010 3:27:26 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

CBS version of the story with Bush pics: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20017430-504083.html


39 posted on 09/23/2010 3:29:18 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair (If exercising the right to free speech invites violence, then girls in short skirts invite rape.)
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To: padre35

I appreciate your comments. My concern is with big name (and not so big name) ministers who become involved in serious sin which, instead of being dealt with, is minimized and covered up by their adoring flock. I agree that financial concerns may be somewhat at fault here, as church members do not wish to jeopardize their big beautiful church with its successful, charismatic pastor (”Who is going to fill the church if he is gone?”)

I would interpret Paul’s statment about desiring to see Christ preached regardless of motive to refer to issues of pride, self-exaltation, etc. rather than someone involved in serious moral failure. Paul addresses those kinds of situations in the I Cor. 5 passage, and discusses the requirements for pastors elsewhere in I & II Timothy.

I am very concerned about the attacks of non-Christians on Christians. However, fulfilling our responsibility to “clean our own house” is not at all to be compared with such attacks, which are motivated by hatred and opposition to the Gospel and our Lord. In fact, when we fail in our responsibility we only give ammunition to our enemies to use against us.

All the best.


40 posted on 09/23/2010 5:14:00 PM PDT by tjd1454
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