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What happened to the Barack Obama dream?
London Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | September 23, 2010 | Alex Spillius

Posted on 09/25/2010 8:19:00 PM PDT by Schnucki

Bob Woodward's searing critique of the Democrats' war strategy comes as key advisers are leaving and voters lose patience with Barack Obama's promise to deliver 'hope and change'. Alex Spillius reports on an increasingly isolated President.

When Barack Obama took office 20 months ago – and what a long 20 months it seems – there was a lot of talk about the great "Team of Rivals" he was appointing around him. Parallels were drawn with the cabinet of substantial talents and big personalities assembled by Abraham Lincoln to rebuild the nation after the civil war.

Now, in a new book, Obama's Wars, the veteran reporter Bob Woodward has confirmed in intricate detail what has been known in Washington for some time: that some of the team could barely stomach working with each other. General David Petraeus, then the military overseer of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, avoided contact with David Axelrod, the President's chief strategist, whom he regarded as a "complete spin doctor". No one had a good word for General James Jones, the national security adviser and former Nato commander, while his number two, Thomas Donilon, was regarded as a "disaster" by the Defence Secretary, Robert Gates.

Most withering of all was Vice President Joe Biden's description of Richard Holbrooke, the special envoy to Afghanistan, as "the most egotistical bastard I've ever met". Biden has nearly 40 years' experience in Washington, so that is saying something.

Much of this would be unimportant if there weren't a war involved – no one expects to be given a smooth ride in the White House and some of what Woodward describes could even be called healthy debate – but the aura of dysfunction portrayed by Woodward as Obama and his "team" debated strategy in Afghanistan is truly alarming.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; alexspillius; axelrod; bobwoodward; davidaxelrod; davidpetraeus; donilon; genesperling; iraq; jamesjones; joebiden; obama; obamaswars; partisanmediashills; petraeus; richardholbrooke; robertgates; sequester; thomasdonilon; woodward
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1 posted on 09/25/2010 8:19:04 PM PDT by Schnucki
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To: Schnucki
It turned into a nightmare for the American people.
2 posted on 09/25/2010 8:19:59 PM PDT by ladyvet (I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Schnucki

His dream of socialism was a nightmare first last and always


3 posted on 09/25/2010 8:21:37 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Schnucki
All of this bad publicity will help us in November. And, after November, when the full evidence of Obama's loss of power and prestige is made clear, I think the blinders will completely fall and everyone will declare "The emperor has no clothes."

His last two years will be very unpleasant.

4 posted on 09/25/2010 8:23:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: Schnucki

America and the world woke up with a hangover...and a coyote date next to them.


5 posted on 09/25/2010 8:24:05 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: ClearCase_guy

His last two years will be very unpleasant.


Narcissists fall hard and hit hard. May this evil bastard splatter into a trillion pieces.


6 posted on 09/25/2010 8:25:28 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Schnucki

It was only a liberal wet dream...Now America is waking up and going to clean up the mess....lol


7 posted on 09/25/2010 8:26:13 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Schnucki
No one had a good word for General James Jones, the national security adviser and former Nato commander

As a Marine, I find this comment interesting. General Jones was fairly well liked within Marine circles, though we considered him a 'political' Commandant as opposed to a warfighter (his war record not withstanding). He was a very influential and liked Marine officer.

8 posted on 09/25/2010 8:27:01 PM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Schnucki

I could have told you this 2 plus years ago .... .


9 posted on 09/25/2010 8:27:53 PM PDT by Deetes (God Bless the Troops)
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To: Schnucki

What happened to his dream? Hopefully, it will be dead come November.


10 posted on 09/25/2010 8:28:13 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: Schnucki

Impeachment is imperative.

Coming to DC January 2011.


11 posted on 09/25/2010 8:29:29 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: Schnucki

Obama’s Hope and Change is garbage. Even looney leftists are seeing it, as they are bussing in Democrat college students from all over Wisconsin just to fill Library Mall at UW-Madison.


12 posted on 09/25/2010 8:29:48 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: Schnucki

“Those who voted against health care – his signature achievement – tout the fact at every opportunity. Some omit the word “Democrat” entirely from their ads or campaign material. There is no other way for them to win.”

So don’t let them. Paint ‘em red and track every last one of them down.


13 posted on 09/25/2010 8:31:28 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Schnucki

There was never a dream...just a bunch of sophmoric crap


14 posted on 09/25/2010 8:32:04 PM PDT by barbarianbabs (smell the tea?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“All of this bad publicity will help us in November.”

Yea...Just too bad that none of it is the American
Marxist news media.


15 posted on 09/25/2010 8:32:18 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: ladyvet

16 posted on 09/25/2010 8:33:26 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Schnucki

Lincoln tried to rebuild America after the war. Obama is trying to cause a civil war.


17 posted on 09/25/2010 8:36:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: ladyvet

Like most dreams, eventually the dreamer wakes, usually when he’s made to realize he’s run out of “other people’s money”. Obama’s campaign successfully managed to put enough people into a dream-state, which is what he needed to be elected. They’ve woken up to reality, while he and his Dems
have kept on a-dreamin’. Nov. 2, fittingly, and keeping the metaphors intact, will be his “wake-up call”.


18 posted on 09/25/2010 8:39:35 PM PDT by supremedoctrine (Come closer. I want to get a better look at you.)
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To: Schnucki

I have reached the highest level of disgust with comparisons of Obama to Lincoln.

Lincoln did indeed assemble a cabinet “to rebuild the nation after the civil war.”

On the other hand Obama has assembled a cabinet to create a civil war and destroy the nation.

As bad and inept as some other presidents have been, none of them intentionally set an agenda to dis-assemble the nation and consign the constitution to the dust bin as Obama has.

If America survives this onslaught and returns to a Constitutional Republic, honest historians will look back on this administration as the lowest point in our history. They will wonder what posessed more than half of the voters to fall for a charlatan who is little more than a later day Marxist decked out as a snake oil peddler.


19 posted on 09/25/2010 8:40:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
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To: unkus

My fondest wish and what I live for: to see Palin get sworn in on January 20, 2013 with Obama sitting there.


20 posted on 09/25/2010 8:42:43 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Iron Munro

I suspect that the future contains two nations where America had one.

My #17 echoes yours.


21 posted on 09/25/2010 8:43:22 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Schnucki

Read the comments....

They are excoriating.


22 posted on 09/25/2010 8:46:01 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: toddausauras

My fondest wish and what I live for: to see Palin get sworn in on January 20, 2013 with Obama sitting there.


Yes, I can see it too.


23 posted on 09/25/2010 8:46:44 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Schnucki

People actually learned what it was, that’s what.


24 posted on 09/25/2010 8:47:06 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: ladyvet

nightmares from my father, now you get em’


25 posted on 09/25/2010 8:49:19 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: toddausauras
to see Palin get sworn in on January 20, 2013 with Obama sitting there.

That's not where "I" hope he'll be sitting..... :)

26 posted on 09/25/2010 8:50:54 PM PDT by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: Schnucki
What happened to the Barack Obama dream?

The Barack Obama dream has turned into America's Nightmare!!!

27 posted on 09/25/2010 8:51:14 PM PDT by mcmuffin (Keep your powder and tobacco dry)
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To: Schnucki
Reality happened!

No amount of Marxist meddling can change human nature. People will act in their own self interest. We are not looking for a government that will dictate how we live. Any government that tries to force people to act in the interest of some Utopian dream will always fail.

28 posted on 09/25/2010 8:51:34 PM PDT by eggman (JournOlist - All the news we choose to use and abuse.)
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To: Iron Munro

>>> Lincoln did indeed assemble a cabinet “to rebuild
>>> the nation after the civil war.”

NO, HE DID NOT.

He built his cabinet at the START of the civil war.


29 posted on 09/25/2010 8:54:25 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Yup, I missed that. You are correct.


30 posted on 09/25/2010 8:56:36 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Schnucki

The world is mocking us.....this is so humiliating! Anyone who voted for this man ought to hide their faces in shame!!


31 posted on 09/25/2010 9:01:04 PM PDT by pollywog ("Under His Wings".........Psalm 91:4)
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To: rjsimmon
He was a very influential and liked Marine officer.

Which probably explains why he is held in contempt by the administration...

32 posted on 09/25/2010 9:02:40 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

States rights vs the Gov is back. The Gov better play this well.


33 posted on 09/25/2010 9:03:06 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: toddausauras
what I live for: to see Palin get sworn in on January 20, 2013 with Obama sitting there.

I'd like to see her getting sworn in with President Biden sitting there.

34 posted on 09/25/2010 9:08:34 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate: Republicans freed the slaves Month.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
His last two years will be very unpleasant.

The understatement of the century.

35 posted on 09/25/2010 9:09:33 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: eyedigress; All
"nightmares from my father, now you get em’"

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36 posted on 09/25/2010 9:26:52 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: pollywog
The world is mocking us.....this is so humiliating! Anyone who voted for this man ought to hide their faces in shame!!

Interesting, isn't it? The idiots who voted for the Kenyan Usurper did so because they thought it would "make us look better to the rest of the world." There has always been this element in America - dating all the way back to the Colonies - that is way too concerned with the European view of us as uncouth, backwoods hayseeds. Personally, I couldn't give a crap what they think.

37 posted on 09/25/2010 9:27:21 PM PDT by ponygirl (TEA people: First we take out the RINOS. Then we finish off the Socialists.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“His last two years will be very unpleasant.”

I agree, we all thought Carter was a very bitter, small cretin - Obama is probably going to make Carter look like a benevolent giant.

Maybe “The Little O” will make his mark building broken down tenements.


38 posted on 09/25/2010 9:29:09 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Schnucki
Reality happened. Obama was hoping and dreaming that no one would catch on to him...part of America was lost in their dreams of some leftist utopia and the rest of us were hoping he wasn't going to be as bad as we thought. All of our hopes and dreams were smashed.
39 posted on 09/25/2010 9:47:04 PM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Schnucki
What happened to the Barack Obama dream?

The same outcome of every socialist idea put into effect.

40 posted on 09/25/2010 10:33:44 PM PDT by RJL
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what a long 20 months it seems

Especially is you are part of the "Tax Livestock Class", i.e., white, middle class, plays by the rules. You have seen hand outs and hand ups for every kind of person who didn't plan ahead, live within their means, pay their bills on time, etc.

Meanwhile, you have made all your mortgage payments on time, often at great sacrifice, saved, stayed out of debt, lived within your means, and you are paying for all the hand outs, you are watching your opportunities dry up, and you see 16,000 new IRS agents, fat federal paychecks, government workers unions and the "ruling class" working hand in hand to feed each other at your expense, government mandates, increased taxes, job shortages, downsizing, and very rough times ahead.

Obama's dream was bullshit from day 1, and the "Hopey Changey" idiots stupid enough to believe in his crap have set this country up for ultimate failure.

41 posted on 09/25/2010 10:43:46 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The emperor has no clothes.”

“His last two years will be very unpleasant.”

Let’s just hope it is only two more years
oh, by the way, those clothes are emty


42 posted on 09/25/2010 10:53:41 PM PDT by munin (Enki did it, George Bush did it)
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To: Schnucki
What happened to the Barack Obama dream?

It's in the discount bin in the dollar store.

43 posted on 09/25/2010 10:57:03 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Schnucki

It got wet.


44 posted on 09/25/2010 10:58:42 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: ladyvet

The dream was always a nightmare, only those ignorant of history, or who depended on the State Run Media for their news believed otherwise.

45 posted on 09/25/2010 11:04:42 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals are not screaming you are doing it wrong!)
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To: ladyvet

It was never anything BUT a nightmare.

We told you* - empty suit, unicorns don’t exist and, if they did, they wouldn’t poop gum drops, emperor has no clothes etc., etc., but you insisted we were racist, the party of ‘no’ etc.

*guiltified middle class, the gullible, the very young etc.


46 posted on 09/25/2010 11:09:14 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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To: Schnucki

gee....I thought the Brits LOVED Obama.


47 posted on 09/26/2010 12:19:59 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Iron Munro

If America survives this onslaught and returns to a Constitutional Republic, honest historians will look back on this administration as the lowest point in our history. They will wonder what posessed more than half of the voters to fall for a charlatan who is little more than a later day Marxist decked out as a snake oil peddler.
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If Obama gets amnesty through, then it will be a majority whom actualy want this. After that the honest historians will have to run underground. They will not be allowed to speak.


48 posted on 09/26/2010 12:41:37 AM PDT by o-n-money
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To: toddausauras
My fondest wish and what I live for: to see Palin get sworn in on January 20, 2013 with Obama sitting there.

I share your dream, but in my own version of it, Obama is watching the festivities on television from inside a prison.

49 posted on 09/26/2010 12:50:16 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: pollywog
Anyone who voted for this man ought to hide their faces in shame!!

My liberal family shoved Obama in my face for months, prior to him winning the election, then gloated like grotesque children when he won.

I hardly hear a peep out of them now.

50 posted on 09/26/2010 12:53:39 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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