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Lugar: Mexican drug lords 'most immediate' threat to U.S. security
The Hill ^ | Sept. 26, 2010 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 09/26/2010 2:06:53 PM PDT by AuntB

The Senate's top Republican on foreign policy said this weekend that drug traffickers operating on the Mexican border pose a more immediate national security threat than domestic terrorists.

Sen. Richard Lugar (Ind.), senior Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is calling on the White House to intensify efforts to help Mexico fight drug lords at the border, where escalating violence has killed tens of thousands of people in the past few years.

"Transnational drug trafficking organizations operating from Mexico represent the most immediate national security threat faced by the United States in the Western Hemisphere," Lugar said in remarks prepared for an Indiana-based training for Mexican prosecutors Sunday, Reuters reports.

"The United States should undertake a broad review of further steps the U.S. military and the intelligence community could take to help combat the Mexican cartels in association with the Mexican government."

The Indiana Republican is suggesting the U.S. military and intelligence communities provide Mexico with more surveillance help, to combat the flow of drugs, money and weapons across the 1,969 mile border....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Indiana; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
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Mexican drug cartels: Can journalists escape their violence?

Mexican drug cartels are assaulting the press, and so journalists are banding together to ask the Mexican government for protection.

Mexico City

The Mexican press has been subject to assault and attack at the hands of suspected drug traffickers – including grenades launched into high-tech broadcast stations and dingy newspaper offices – for years.

Even as media watchdogs have declared Mexico one of the world's most dangerous places to report from, each outlet has had to act individually to protect its staff. Mostly they omit writer bylines and leave out crucial details of shootouts and kidnappings – if they cover the mayhem at all.

But now the Mexican media is demanding more protection, working together to draw attention to the threats the job is generating.

. Mexico's National Commission on Human Rights says that 65 media workers have been killed in the past decade. The Committee to Protect Journalists says more than 30 reporters have been killed or have disappeared since December 2006, when Mexican President Felipe Calderón took office and dispatched the military to tackle organized crime. In that time, more than 28,000 people have been killed in drug-related violence.

Four journalists were briefly kidnapped in July, when they were inquiring about a mass murder in Torreon. In January 2009, gunmen launched a grenade at a popular television station during its nightly broadcast.

Some of them have been showing up in the US asking for help. Jorge Luis Aguirre, the editor of an online news site in Ciudad Juárez, was granted asylum just days ago, after fleeing to the US in the face of a death threat. He is the first journalist believed to be granted asylum by the US in the past four years, and it could have repercussions for other journalists seeking haven on American soil.

Since the majority of the cases against journalists are unsolved – as is crime in general in Mexico – it is sometimes hard to distinguish between cases in which journalists are killed for personal reasons, including for being on the payroll a certain group and killed off by a rival, and when it is their reporting that puts them in danger.[snip]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2010/0924/Mexican-drug-cartels-Can-journalists-escape-their-violence

1 posted on 09/26/2010 2:06:59 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: AuntB

Damn!! It must be an election year.


2 posted on 09/26/2010 2:08:16 PM PDT by donhunt (No animals were harmed in the making of this message... yet.)
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To: donhunt

Not a problem... We will just close the border. /s


3 posted on 09/26/2010 2:09:15 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: AuntB

How was your nap, Dick? I hope Gov. Brewer’s shouting didn’t wake you up!


4 posted on 09/26/2010 2:09:20 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.)
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To: AuntB
What's up wid dat?

I thought we tea partiers and Viet Nam vets were the biggest threats. s/

5 posted on 09/26/2010 2:09:41 PM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Professional Politicians are a Threat to the Republic! Remove them on 11-2-10!)
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To: Clintonfatigued; Liz; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; PGalt; mkjessup; blackie; SwinneySwitch; HiJinx; ...

More of the same:

Napolitano to McCain: Yes, Mexican Cartels Pose Terror Threat to U.S.

(McLiar is pushing Nappy to say the violence is only a problem in the last couple years...he’s looking to cover his pandering butt again)

[snip]In 2009, the U.S. Justice Department declared in its annual National Drug Threat Assessment that the Mexican drug cartels were “the greatest organized crime threat to the United States,” but the U.S. State Department has not listed those cartels as foreign terrorist organizations.

The 2010 National Drug Threat Assessment said that “900,000 criminally active gang members representing approximately 20,000 street gangs” distribute drugs for the Mexican cartels in more than 2,500 American cities.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75789


6 posted on 09/26/2010 2:11:30 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB

If McCain had lost the primary, the whole nation would have been better off.


7 posted on 09/26/2010 2:13:29 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“How was your nap, Dick? “

Exactly! When an old rino like Lugar sees it, it’s pretty damn plain, isn’t it?


8 posted on 09/26/2010 2:13:54 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
This calls for DNA testing and RFID chipping of ALL citizens immediately. Oh and don't forget mandatory vaccines.

It's for the children.

9 posted on 09/26/2010 2:14:02 PM PDT by dljordan ("His father's sword he hath girded on, And his wild harp slung behind him")
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To: AuntB
Yet when our Border Guards stop the drug dealers, they are harassed by the likes of Johnny Sutton
10 posted on 09/26/2010 2:15:53 PM PDT by Dante3
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To: AuntB
Gee...now he notices.

Gosh, where's he been the last 10 20 30 40 years?

11 posted on 09/26/2010 2:16:27 PM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: AuntB
The Senate's top Republican on foreign policy said this weekend that drug traffickers operating on the Mexican border pose a more immediate national security threat than domestic terrorists.

I still think the domestic terrorists in Congress are a greater threat.

The November elections may change my attitude.

12 posted on 09/26/2010 2:16:40 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: AuntB

.. but their value to the Democratic Party is up by 500%.

THAT is what matters.


13 posted on 09/26/2010 2:19:00 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: AuntB

.. but their value to the Democratic Party is up by 500%.

THAT is what matters.

(Somewhat like what happened to Rome - before it fell.)


14 posted on 09/26/2010 2:20:05 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: AuntB

Lugar is a Republican?

I forgot. Sorry.


15 posted on 09/26/2010 2:20:25 PM PDT by datura (RINOs are nothing but Democrats in drag..)
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To: Deagle

Every Mexican living is a threat to this nations security. As the situation in Mexico worsens at some point every Mexican in the place will be running north.


16 posted on 09/26/2010 2:22:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: AuntB
I bet you have heard the stories about lite rail benefiting small time drug dealers.

It is said in Portland's free routes being the choice of transportation for dealers/users.

That being typed above I thought about the Cartels running the pot farms in our mountain ranges when I read an article in the local paper.

Seems a 15yr long dream to make a hiking trail from Ona Beach (Seal Rock/Waldport area) over the coast range to Corvallis is going to come true.

I thought wow what an adventure for those able bodied, then I thought about it being a possible corridor for nefarious uses.

Not good. Possibly making forest access easier for the Cartel Pot Farms or other evil intentions.

17 posted on 09/26/2010 2:25:09 PM PDT by Global2010
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To: jmacusa

Heh, would not go that far! Every Mexican drug runner, gang member, and illegal alien smuggler is certainly a threat to this country.

The rest of your statement seems a bit off in the weeds though...


18 posted on 09/26/2010 2:27:45 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: AuntB

We should condition Mexico’s on letting Delta Force move in MX to deal with this scum.

So it doesn’t seem as bad, we can agree on xxx soldier limit.


19 posted on 09/26/2010 2:30:16 PM PDT by mainsail that
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I feel so safe knowing that our elected morons are awake and up to date with what’s going on in America.


20 posted on 09/26/2010 2:32:46 PM PDT by chiefqc
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yes, Ma’am.


21 posted on 09/26/2010 2:37:21 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: jmacusa

“Every Mexican living is a threat to this nations security. As the situation in Mexico worsens at some point every Mexican in the place will be running north.”

Too late....

Over 200,000 People Leave Mexican Border City Due to Violence
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2596547/posts


22 posted on 09/26/2010 2:40:34 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB; Clintonfatigued; sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; PGalt; mkjessup; blackie; SwinneySwitch; HiJinx; ...
The 2010 National Drug Threat Assessment said that “900,000 criminally active gang members representing approximately 20,000 street gangs” distribute drugs for the Mexican cartels in more than 2,500 American cities.

This could not be accomplished with a lot of official help. Without question----that would be the Mexican government and its strong-armed military who protect the cartels' passage over the border.

We need to see the emails, phone records and textings of the Ohaha admin, La Raza, amnesty pushers in Congress (Cutierrez and Guiljara among several), etc, to determine the scope and dimension of collusion with the Mexican government to pull off this ntl security threat.

NOTE WELL Many Mexican illegals are using the asylum scam----claiming drug violence forced them to flee over the border----to get on the US gravy train.

THE ASYLUM RIPOFF UP CLOSE A Social Security category provides outrageous government financial aid to "refugees" claiming "persecution." These phonies never paid a dime into the SS system; yet, they can collect seven years straight...... and can get extended payments if they are politically well-connected. The SS checks can amount to $1000 a month, and more.

THE PROBLEM Drug lords are huge campaign donors to the Democrat party.

23 posted on 09/26/2010 2:54:14 PM PDT by Liz
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To: AuntB
Hmmm, simple make it an Executable crime to ferry drugs across the border. Anyone caught with 1 pound of weed or 1 kg of coke gets shot immediately. If a group if caught with the above total amount then all are shot immediately. Post this in all newspapers around the world and broadcast with radio stations along the boarder.

I am pretty sure that the flow of drugs would slow down a lot.

Also any mexican drug growing operation discovered within the USA, especially within the national parks, will result in a fully publicized execution of ALL perps caught. NO TRIAL, NO APPEALS.

Make the punishment so harsh it will make those thinking about doing so think twice or thrice...

24 posted on 09/26/2010 3:02:36 PM PDT by SledgeCS (If this is an example of a transparent government, I would hate to see what a secret one is.)
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To: AuntB
They're only a threat because we don't protect our border. A more immediate threat is the rapid incorporation of labor unions into a stealth branch of government and a political police force. There's your threat, right there, Dickie boy....
25 posted on 09/26/2010 3:02:46 PM PDT by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michelle Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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To: SledgeCS

I nominate you for Secty of DHS!

My neck of the woods...

http://www.ktvl.com/articles/hunters-1197121-drug-mexican.html
Hunters cautioned about Mexican Drug Cartel

September 25, 2010 7:44 AM
Katie Conner / KTVL.com

Local and Federal law enforcement and Oregon Hunters Association are warning hunters about the marijuana growth sites in the forest operated by Mexican Drug Cartels.

A joint press conference was held Friday with the various agencies, to provide safety tips for the public.

“The cartel is like a drug warehouse and they will anything they can do to make money,” said Sheriff Winters.

Winters says the best way to stay safe is to know your surroundings, noticing if anything seems unusual. For example, trimmed or manicured trees, walls of cut brush, canopies handing in the trees, are all signs. Also, pvc pipes coming out of streams is also an indication you are in a growth site. The growers most likely use the pipes for irrigation for the pot plants. Manually widened game trails, garbage piles are also signs and you should leave the area immediately.

Within the past two weeks, two archer hunters have been confronted by suspected pot growers who were armed. If you are confronted by a suspected grower, just walk away. Winters says they typically do not want to hurt you, instead scare you off.

“We have serious problem out there. You hear people say oh they’re just poor farmers or just marijuana growers,” said Sheriff Winters. “This drug is the number one cartel drug eight million dollars a year to the cartel.”

According to Winters, law enforcement has uprooted 125,000 marijuana plants in 30 different gardens. Each plant is worth $5,000.

“It’s a big business for them down there and they’ll do anything,” said Winters.

People who see anything unusual or suspicious in the forest are being asked to call local police.


26 posted on 09/26/2010 3:06:54 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: datura
Lugar is a Republican? I forgot. Sorry.

No kidding. I'm from Indiana. I swear I thought he was a demoRAT.

27 posted on 09/26/2010 3:07:43 PM PDT by LouAvul
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To: donhunt

And I bet Lugar never heard about Islam, either.


28 posted on 09/26/2010 3:26:58 PM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: donhunt
There's only one answer to this crime wave:

Decriminalize Everything.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

29 posted on 09/26/2010 3:27:19 PM PDT by The Comedian
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To: AuntB

Lugar....one of obama’s biggest a@@ kissers from day one.


30 posted on 09/26/2010 3:29:05 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Deagle

What I’m saying is when Mexico’s eventual collapse happens we can expect a massive wave of Mexicans fleeing here.


31 posted on 09/26/2010 3:32:41 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: AuntB

And it will only continue and get worse until, if ever Mexico becomes a society based on the respect of and the rule of law. But since that isn’t likely to ever happen as I said it’s only going to get worse. I sure hope I’m not around in twenty years or so to see what happened to this great country.


32 posted on 09/26/2010 3:36:04 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: SledgeCS
Hmmm, simple make it an Executable crime to ferry drugs across the border. Anyone caught with 1 pound of weed or 1 kg of coke gets shot immediately. If a group if caught with the above total amount then all are shot immediately. Post this in all newspapers around the world and broadcast with radio stations along the boarder.

Hmm, why go to all that trouble? Just legalize all drugs.

33 posted on 09/26/2010 3:46:43 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: AuntB

Senator is in error. America’s greatest enemy resides in the White House


34 posted on 09/26/2010 3:48:35 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: jmacusa

Yes... I understand and agree (missed your point). I just would place the blame on the failing Mexican government though. Really can’t condemn those trying to get away from the collapse.


35 posted on 09/26/2010 3:51:53 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

“Can’t really condemn those trying to get away from the collapse’’. Sure I can, they’re part of the reason for the collapse. If Mexicans spent half the energy to fix their country as they do breaking into ours think what they could do. Deagle, I’ll tell you plain.: I’m sick to f’ing death of Mexico and it’s people thinking they got a God-given mandate to barge in here and me, you and every other tax-paying, law-abiding American is just supposed to shut up, roll over and get used to it. I’m f’ing sick of it. I’m sick of my taxes going up every year because Mexicans can’t make their country work.


36 posted on 09/26/2010 4:03:20 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: SledgeCS

Or we could just legalize pot and undersell them, taking away both their market and their income. (Not sure I want to legalize coke, though.)


37 posted on 09/26/2010 4:14:30 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady (Instead of building a grand mosque at Ground Zero, let's build a Ground Zero at their Grand Mosque.)
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To: jmacusa

Okay...not really sure I can disagree with you... Nicely said even though it did require a bit of enthusiasm.


38 posted on 09/26/2010 4:14:52 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Liz

Drug lords....Democrats....what’s the difference?


39 posted on 09/26/2010 4:22:59 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker
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To: jmacusa

Amen. Wasn’t Mexico allowed to join a lawsuit opposing Arizona’s immigration enforcement law? And another country, I think Ecuador? Un-freaking-believable. They can sue an American state to prevent them from enforcing American law.


40 posted on 09/26/2010 4:27:11 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: Deagle

I blame them, because instead of coming here to become good Americans, they proceed to try to re-create the very conditions they fled from in Mexico. When they’ve helped to destroy this nation, then to where will they flee? After Canada, it will be a little more difficult to just sneak across borders and bring their cultural baggage with them.


41 posted on 09/26/2010 4:30:36 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

Yes, integration has become a real problem lately... You can’t overflow America with millions a year (from any country) and expect them to become part of America. They do not have the time or incentive to learn English or enjoy the merits of being American. Seems that is why immigration was controlled in the first place...


42 posted on 09/26/2010 4:38:16 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Because America, what she really is about (or was in the past) means absolutely nothing to them. We just happen to be a handy close-by first-world nation, easily accessible, all they have to do is jump the border to be here. We have always been compassionate to those who came in the past. But those who came in the past had to really want to be here. They had to make sacrifices, say goodbye to all they’d ever known. They saw America as more than an free ride. The parasites from Mexico just see an available host, with no concern as to how soon they kill it. They make no sacrifice to come here, they don’t go through inspectiom at Ellis Island to make sure they aren’t criminals, health risks, etc. They don’t save and scrimp to get money for boat passage, leaving all they ever knew, probably never to see it again. They’re not “all in” and for the long haul, like the immigrants of the Great Migration period.

We attract what we get, through our policies. When we attracted people who came here to work, contribute, and become Americans, that’s what we got. Now we have policies attractive to those who want to freeload while demanding their “rights”, so that’s what we get. If they shared a border with, for instance Canada or Australia, it’d be the same. The nation as an ideal means nothing, it’s about an easy host for these ticks and fleas. (And that’s almost literal, they are bringing not only diseases we’d wiped out decades ago, but ones we never had, not to mention terrible parasites).


43 posted on 09/26/2010 4:52:43 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: mrsmel

Absolutely right on! Gone are the good ole days of immigration and integration. Much of this is of our own making.


44 posted on 09/26/2010 4:55:06 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: AuntB

Lugar is a disgrace and should be primaried in 2012.


45 posted on 09/26/2010 5:16:47 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Mexico is the U.S. version of Hamas)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Image and video hosting by TinyPic "Hey! Lugar! Over here!"

46 posted on 09/26/2010 6:26:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: AuntB

Did he decide this before or after he co-sponsored the DREAM act?


47 posted on 09/26/2010 6:27:27 PM PDT by TeachableMoment
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To: AuntB
WRONG.. Congress is the most current threat to National Security..
Next.. Is the President and his minions...
After that the State Department and Department Of Justice..

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Government is not a solution to our problem, government is the problem. -Ronald Reagan.

48 posted on 09/26/2010 6:27:55 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: AuntB
Lugar: Mexican drug lords 'most immediate' threat to U.S. security,

No. Open borders advocates like Dickie Lugar are the "most immediate threat" to US security.

49 posted on 09/26/2010 6:37:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Managing "The Environment" is the power to control the entire economy.)
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To: mrsmel

Well then if other sovereign nations can interfere in the affairs of another sovereign nation(that being us) then what other agencies of the government are we sub-contracting out? And why the Hell should any of us continue to pay taxes to a government that refuses to secure our borders and protect us?


50 posted on 09/26/2010 6:59:02 PM PDT by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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