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Payroll departments brace for congressional verdict on tax cuts
The Hill.com ^ | 09/26/10 | Jay Heflin

Posted on 09/27/2010 8:41:41 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult

The decision by Senate Democratic leaders to delay a vote on the Bush-era tax cuts until after the election has put the payroll industry on high alert.

If Democratic leaders fail to determine the tax rates by Dec. 10, it could be too late for payroll administrators to withhold the right amount of tax from workers’ paychecks, according to industry officials.

“The closer you get to the end of the year the more problems there’ll be,” Michael O’Toole, senior director of publications and government relations at the American Payroll Association (APA), told The Hill.

“If [the IRS] issues [withholding tables] within three weeks before the end of the year, most payroll systems will be able to implement them by Jan. 1,” O’Toole said. “We’re warning [payroll departments] that there is this uncertainty out there and you’re going to really have to pay attention and probably have to move on a dime when there is some certainty.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010; 2010election; 2010midterms; bho44; bhofascism; budget; bushtaxcuts; congress; democratcongress; democratcorruption; democrats; economy; elections; irs; liberalfascism; obama; payroll; taxcheatparty; taxcuts; taxes; taxincreases
Just a heads up to those who don't know that no matter what Congress does about the Bush Tax Cuts, you could end up taking home less next year since they're dragging their feet on this.
1 posted on 09/27/2010 8:41:46 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

If they make my taxes go up, I WILL find a way to make up the difference, and it WILL come our of THEIR asses(not mine).


2 posted on 09/27/2010 8:45:11 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Another fustercluck waiting to happen. Good grief.


3 posted on 09/27/2010 8:45:33 PM PDT by bergmeid
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

I heard a ‘progressive’ say that if taxes go up it will be Buah’s fault because he couldn’t make them permanent.


4 posted on 09/27/2010 8:50:39 PM PDT by griswold3 ('Regulation and law without enforcement is no law at all)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
and America takes another one in the........

5 posted on 09/27/2010 8:50:39 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

When does that “you must file a 1099 form for ever good or service over $600” nonsense go into effect?


6 posted on 09/27/2010 8:51:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Palin/Bolton 2012)
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To: KoRn
I heard this on a radio show. The cost next year to an individual would be about 37 dollars a month extra withheld and 64 dollars for a couple. The sheeple might take notice but skyrocketing health insurance costs might hide this to those who don't keep a close watch on their pay.
7 posted on 09/27/2010 8:57:37 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I cant find the exact date but it looks like the 1099 junk will have to be reported in 2013, covering the 2012 tax year. Repeal of it is still in work as recent attempts have failed.
8 posted on 09/27/2010 9:04:26 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

The Rats were NEVER going to extend the tax cuts. It was all a political ploy to try to get Boehner to oppose them because they didn’t give cuts to everyone. When that failed they resorted tho the usual, scaring seniors and calling Republicans racists.


9 posted on 09/27/2010 9:21:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Kaslin; SunkenCiv; screaminsunshine; AuntB; pissant

This is rather unnerving. I hope that something gets made right after the election.

And they wonder why those businesses are sitting on their cash reserves instead of investing.


10 posted on 09/27/2010 9:28:30 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Obama's more worried about Israelis building houses than he is about Islamists building atomic bombs)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
It seems that every time we get a democratic president in office he manages to screw with income taxes.

Remember what Clinton did in 1993? He changed the established income tax rates AFTER the 1992 tax year ended because the deficit he inherited from President Bush (41) was much higher than he was told it was going to be during the 1992 election cycle.

Hmmmm

Democratic President in 1993 claiming the higher deficit was the result of President Bush (41).
Democratic President in 2009 claiming that the higher deficit was the result of President Bush (43).

So, if we end up with a democratic president in 2025 who will he blame for the higher deficit since there will not be a President Bush (45)?

11 posted on 09/27/2010 9:36:36 PM PDT by Nip (A COIN carrier since 1975.)
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To: griswold3

I heard a ‘progressive’ say that if taxes go up it will be Buah’s fault because he couldn’t make them permanent.


That’s how they rationalize—they aren’t rational.
I heard a liberal wonder why 0bama hadn’t gotten gas prices down to $2.00/gal yet.


12 posted on 09/27/2010 9:58:31 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Clintonfatigued
And they wonder why those businesses are sitting on their cash reserves instead of investing.

No, they are expecting businesses to sit on their cash reserves. Their plan has been to maximize uncertainty so that companies will hold off on investing. That way, their government will be able to loot those funds directly instead of having those businesses waste them by investing them to make an evil profit. Right now, the Obama Administration and their fascist allies in the House and Senate are plotting a way to go after that capital as well as the long term assets of insurance companies and the private retirement investments of the American worker (e.g. 401(k) accounts).

13 posted on 09/27/2010 10:06:35 PM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: Nip
On a similar subject I marvel at the sheer stupidity of the Obamroids trying to ape the dot com boom Clinton rode by pretending that the green jobs “boom” is the same thing.
14 posted on 09/27/2010 10:26:25 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hoodat

The problem is the uncertainty. Businesses don’t know what’s going to happen next, so they aren’t investing or expanding, just laying low until the storm passes. Since business won’t invest, cash reserves go up.

The last time this happened was during the Great Depression. FDR railed against the Evil Corporations for hoarding cash. The end result was the Undistributed Profits Tax (UPT) of 1936.

FDR recognized it was a mistake and repealed it in 1938.

Prediction: Some Dems will start proposing the UPT (or something like it) soon.


15 posted on 09/27/2010 10:58:18 PM PDT by Gideon7
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Who doesn’t keep a close watch on their pay these days?

Only those who are certain of it...Congress...


16 posted on 09/28/2010 12:08:36 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Actually, I think the ‘Rats don’t have the votes because there would be too many jumping the progressive ship right now.


17 posted on 09/28/2010 12:10:12 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Hoodat

BTTT!


18 posted on 09/28/2010 12:12:47 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

There is a green jobs boom?

I must have missed that report...


19 posted on 09/28/2010 12:13:34 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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To: Gideon7; Hoodat

Now add looming trade wars and you’ve got the GD down pat.


20 posted on 09/28/2010 2:19:31 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: dixiechick2000

The only green job that I know of is the one I CREATED.

I scrounge around at night and raid the various trash bins around town (gas stations, self-car washes, other misc. places) retrieving plastic, glass bottles, and aluminum cans for cash. Here in Cali we have CRV on such items. Per pound it fetches .95 for plastic, 1.57 for aluminum, and .10 for glass. Made 27 bucks today for 4 hrs work 5 bucks for gas no freaking TAX. Of course this only supplements my retirement money.

I had to swallow my pride but I’ve gained more back INDEPENDENCE LIBERTY STARVE THE BEAST I AM SPARTACUS. MOLON LABE


21 posted on 09/28/2010 2:40:53 AM PDT by Studebaker Hawk (It's said these geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beginning in 2012, under a little discussed mandate of the health care reform legislation, businesses will be required to report all payments in excess of $600 for services or merchandise to the Internal Revenue Service on a Form 1099.
“Under the new law, businesses will be required to send a 1099 to other businesses for virtually all purchases,” said Chris Hesse, director of taxation at CPA firm LeMaster DanielsPLLC in Washington state, as quoted by Chris Edwards in a Cato Institute blog.

“And for the first time, 1099s are to be sent to corporations,” Hesse said. “This is a huge new imposition on American business, costing the private economy much more than any additional tax that the IRS might collect as a result.”

http://www.accountingweb.com/topic/tax/costly-changes-1099-reporting-health-care-bill

he reporting requirement will affect business in two ways, according to The Boston Globe. First, most of a business’s revenue now will be reported to the IRS by the businesses that paid it, so understating large amounts of revenue will be more difficult. Secondly, it will force businesses to identify the recipients of their business expense payments.

“There is no doubt this will be an administrative nightmare for many businesses in the first year or two,” Jamie Downey, partner at Downey & Co. said in The Boston Globe. “Have a large business-related meal at a restaurant, this will need to be reported on a 1099. Spend a week in a hotel in Waco, Texas; you will need to send a 1099.”

“[The IRS] told us that HHS is the one that is given the requirement to interpret this entire law,” Lungren said. “That was an extraordinary response as far as I was concerned...I have never known HHS in the past to be responsible for interpreting tax law.”


22 posted on 09/28/2010 4:29:00 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; 2ndDivisionVet
I cant find the exact date but it looks like the 1099 junk will have to be reported in 2013, covering the 2012 tax year. Repeal of it is still in work as recent attempts have failed.

Correct.

Under 'SEC. 9006. EXPANSION OF INFORMATION REPORTING REQUIREMENTS', (c) EFFECTIVE DATE.—The amendments made by this section shall apply to payments made after December 31, 2011.
23 posted on 09/28/2010 5:04:46 AM PDT by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are very much worried about this. If this is not fixed, it will mean we will have to lay off one of our guys. Right now we are slow, and we are barely able to keep our staff on hand, there are times when the guys are just out painting units, or working on trucks, but we eat the cost, hoping times will get better.

If this particular goes into effect, it will have a catastrophic impact on our book keeping, because as a small business, we already have to shop around over a hundred suppliers to find what we need at competitive prices.

Now, we will have to hire another full time office person, one with accounting/tax background, and probably some knowledge of the law, and who is able to handle interpretation of the health care initiative and every other thing in this bill that “we had to pass to find out whats in it”.

This means, a high end office person, and this means probably having to drop one of the guys in our service crew. And this is going to break the hearts of both my wife and I, because the few guys we have working for us are quite frankly, stronger than some of our family. They are more loyal then family, and they have kids and families too. And with this economy, and our slow business, there is little hope they will find work.

I am spitting mad at this congress, and this president to force us to have to do this. My wife and are actually just considering closing up shop next year and retiring, because of the heartache of choosing who will stay and who will go, and all the headache that this jackass is going to impose on our business.

It is OUR business, that is why we are in business, to run it the way WE want. If the gub’mint is going to control our business any more, we are both thinking that it may be time to call it quits, but not by choice, we love our business, we love the guys that work for us, but if we can’t do it right anymore, we are just not going to bother doing it, I’m afraid.


24 posted on 09/28/2010 8:01:27 AM PDT by esoxmagnum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Last I heard, Jan 1, 1012.

I am a bookkeeper for 2 small businesses, which are one-man operations, & I am pretty sure I will not be able to comply with the demands of that new ruling.

It will apply to every drop of fuel that my clients buy in doing their installaions & service of their products. They re both in Los Angeles area, & lots of those gas stations are run by immigrants. I don’t see getting accurate information from such vendors. Won’t happen.


25 posted on 09/28/2010 8:44:04 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

I don’t see getting accurate information from such vendors. Won’t happen.”

I don’t see those saem immigrants who run the gas stations sending out proper 1099’s to every one of their customers, either.

The details of this bill are beyond a nightmare.


26 posted on 09/28/2010 8:48:35 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Clintonfatigued; AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; ...

/bingo

And thanks Clintonfatigued.


27 posted on 09/28/2010 8:08:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: Studebaker Hawk

That might be considered a “green” job, but I consider your recycling of plastic, glass and aluminum to be you taking responsibilty for yourself.

You are supplementing your income, and I give you ^ 5s for that!

I see many older people on the freeway on/off ramps begging for money. I wish they would be as responsible and creative for themselves as you are.


28 posted on 09/29/2010 12:16:55 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Remember November...I can see it from my house!)
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