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'Credible But Not Specific' Threat of New Terrorist Attack (It's not October yet, fool!)
ABC ^ | 9/28/2010 | RICHARD ESPOSITO, RHONDA SCHWARTZ, MATTHEW COLE and ANNA SCHECTER

Posted on 09/28/2010 5:41:24 PM PDT by markomalley

US and European officials said Tuesday they have detected a plot to carry out a major, coordinated series of new terror attacks in the United Kingdom, France, Germany and possibly the United States.

A senior US official said that while there is a "credible" threat, no specific time or place is known. President Obama has been briefed about the threat, say senior US officials.

Intelligence and law enforcement authorities in the US and Europe said the threat information is based on the interrogation of a suspected German terrorist allegedly captured on his way to Europe in late summer and now being held at Bagram Airfield in Afghanistan.

US law enforcement officials say they have been told the terrorists were planning a series of "Mumbai-style" commando raids on what were termed "economic or soft" targets in the countries.

In testimony before Congress last week, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said, "We are all seeing increased activity by a more diverse set of groups and a more diverse set of threats."

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: crushislam; france; germany; islam; islamicterrorism; islamicviolence; obama; obamaknows; unitedkingdom; waronterror; wot
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To: LomanBill

From someone who lives in the area, she is saying they are NOT doing random sampling. They are searching ALL trucks.


51 posted on 09/29/2010 7:36:22 AM PDT by kozanne
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To: Fantasywriter

That isn’t their MO? Ofcourse it is. They will go with any cause their masters give them, just to get the adreneline rush.


52 posted on 09/29/2010 7:40:24 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Marty62

I just meant that so far not a lot of them have been intentional martyrs. That was the MO I was referring to.


53 posted on 09/29/2010 7:43:17 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: markomalley

The article’s video portion says that the Germans are going to shut down the Islamic cultural center in Hamburg.

Interesting.


54 posted on 09/29/2010 7:44:34 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: markomalley; judicial meanz; Travis McGee; Old Sarge; Shooter 2.5; Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger; ...
US law enforcement officials say they have been told the terrorists were planning a series of "Mumbai-style" commando raids on what were termed "economic or soft" targets in the countries.

I predicted a terrorist attack against the USA on our home soil for at least ten years before the 911 attacks. I have been predicting the same thing as Mumbai since the 911 attacks would happen in coordinated attacks nationwide since 911. It even showed up in a Tom Clancy book (The Teeth of the Tiger) and on an episode of Criminal Minds. Think of the traditional start to the Christmas shooping season: BLACK FRIDAY or the day following Thanksgiving. Think of every shopping mall in the nation packed to the gills. Now imagine Jihadis given a prearranged go-code to show up with AKs or whatever at the nearest mall to their location and start slaughtering the infidels. As many folks would be killed in the stampede to exit as would be killed by Jihadi gunfire. It's even possible that many would be killed by the friendly fire of responding police. I carry my Sig (C3 45) everywhere I go, including the mall when I go shopping with the wife (to me a fate worse than death but one I willingly accept every year to make certain she stays safe in unsafe malls) but in FL the decision to limit carrying on private property is largely a matter of county ordinance rather than state law. In Miami dade the law basically reads: Where posted no ccw, IF you carry and are detected by property representatives (security) you may be asked to leave the property. If you return, still armed and are AGAIN detected, you may be arrested for trespass after warning, a misdemeanor. It comes down to landowner policy and I'll violate anybody's POLICY to keep my family safe. But in other states it can be a felony offense...in which case, I'd encourage the wife to do the shopping online.

Imagine a MUMBAI in the malls across the nation on Black Friday. Imagine 50 or 100 teams plus the lone gunmen operating on their own against targets of opportunity. I would think the majority of targets would be in states with tough gun control and packed malls like the northeast and in California. I don't see a lot in states with SHALL ISSUE ccw permits, but it's always possible, I guess. Hence my standard armed condition. I'm almost always armed and carrying a spare mag as well. On those days, I may be armed with a high cap firearm like my Springfield Armory XD 45 compact with 11 in the gun and a 13rd spare mag. The C3 only has 7 in the mag + 1 in the tube. All SHEEPDOGS should be faithfully carrying at all times where lawful and practical to do so (for example as a teacher I cannot and do not carry at work. Not even in my vehicle -- that's a FEDERAL LAW no local ordinance here!). In a Mumbai style attack the first line of defense isn't going to be mall security or even the police, it's going to be those citizens carrying a firearm under permit (or not in certain states like AZ, VT etc.) This is where ccw has it over open carry. Folks open carrying will be targeted and cut down by the terrorists just like they'll target security and cops in the mall as a threat to the operation. But they won't know who is concealing the weapon until it's too late and the lead is flying back in their direction. Even then, we have to be EXTREMELY careful to not harm innocent sheep caught in the crossfire while the attacking wolves will have no such restrictions. Sorry, but that is just the cost of being the SHEEPDOG on duty at the moment. Hopefully there will be more than one on duty when the attack starts. But alone or not, the SHEEPDOGS must respond. I predict that it will be the armed citizen that shuts down the attack in at least one instance. If it does go like that, I think you can safely kiss the gun control movement as a political entity Buh-BYE for a long time.

55 posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:44 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Zombie Hunters: We make dead things deader.)
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To: ExSoldier
DANG! Shooping mall = SHOPPING mall.
56 posted on 09/29/2010 7:50:43 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Zombie Hunters: We make dead things deader.)
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To: markomalley

Germany has stated that there was NO threat to their country.

Anyone else see this as a wimpy wag the dog?


57 posted on 09/29/2010 7:58:28 AM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Callahan
How would a big terror attack help Congressional Dems? Sure it would raise Obama’s popularity and take some of the laser focus off the economy but terrorism concern plays to the strengths of our Repub candidates.

It would in the longer term, but the Regime is playing for the short term. Something very bizarre and cataclysmic will likely occur between now and Election Day. These people will stop at nothing to hold power.

58 posted on 09/29/2010 8:01:52 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: ExSoldier

I agree with you Ex. If these thugs have half a brain, which they likely do - they will be avoiding states/cities with accessable carry/ conceal carry laws and target the liberal bastions like CA, NY and the sort just because they know the sheep will be unarmed.


59 posted on 09/29/2010 8:04:15 AM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Callahan
Sure it would raise Obama’s popularity and take some of the laser focus off the economy but terrorism concern plays to the strengths of our Repub candidates.

Unless Obama single-handedly negotiates a 7 year peace agreement between all UN member nations.

60 posted on 09/29/2010 8:08:43 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: The Comedian

Ping.


61 posted on 09/29/2010 8:09:06 AM PDT by houeto (Get drinking water from your ditch - http://www.junglebucket.com/)
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To: markomalley

They are fools to brief the POTUS, He’ll just pass any intel along to the rag heads...


62 posted on 09/29/2010 8:09:06 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: Fantasywriter

Well cowards do tend to hide their Id’s.


63 posted on 09/29/2010 8:10:26 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Marty62

On this we can agree. :)


64 posted on 09/29/2010 8:14:07 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: hejahale
"I am not sure who the bigger terrorist is, the subject of the briefing or the person being briefed?"

Also interesting to note, the subject of the briefing or the person being briefed are the same.

65 posted on 09/29/2010 8:34:00 AM PDT by yesca (..belief is the enemy)
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To: ExSoldier

“This is where ccw has it over open carry. Folks open carrying will be targeted and cut down by the terrorists just like they’ll target security and cops in the mall as a threat to the operation. But they won’t know who is concealing the weapon until it’s too late and the lead is flying back in their direction.”

as soon as the first shot is fired... i think most of the ccw guys will be gun drawn and in low ready.. so that pretty much nullifies that.

you can not win in a quick draw contest from a concealment holster vs a tango with an ak already out and active.


66 posted on 09/29/2010 8:36:29 AM PDT by melkor
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To: markomalley

More reason to pass the internet snooping law A.S.A.P.!!


67 posted on 09/29/2010 9:02:26 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: markomalley

It’s close enough to October.


68 posted on 09/29/2010 9:05:42 AM PDT by b4its2late (Ignorance allows liberalism to prosper.)
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To: kozanne; Quix
The "terror" of a persistent non-specific "unknown" threat is probably more physiologically damaging to a population than an actual incident.

When the fight or flight mechanism is continuously activated in an organism that is unable to manage the physiological response, the predictable result is exhaustion.... weakness,  vulnerability -  and death.
 

Gotta be fit to FReep. 
 
It's a GAS:
 
(General  Adaptation Syndrome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28biology%29

69 posted on 09/29/2010 9:07:05 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: markomalley

“President Obama has been briefed about the threat”

Thank god, what a relief! We should all feel much safer now. Where is he hiding under the bed?

/sarc.


70 posted on 09/29/2010 9:10:03 AM PDT by Batman11 (Sarah Palin: "Illegal immigrants are called illegal for a reason!")
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To: LomanBill

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT:


The “terror” of a persistent non-specific “unknown” threat is probably more physiologically damaging to a population than an actual incident.

When the fight or flight mechanism is continuously activated in an organism that is unable to manage the physiological response, the predictable result is exhaustion.... weakness, vulnerability - and death.

Gotta be fit to FReep.

It’s a GAS:

(General Adaptation Syndrome)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stress_%28biology%29


71 posted on 09/29/2010 9:10:57 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: houeto; Quix
Thanks for the ping, bro.

Nuclear Terror, Lookingglass hit #4 within ONLY 24 HOURS.

Even I'm getting a little freaked out now. Seems my temporal sequencing was not only off, but completely wrong. Unnecessary. All these things are showing up simultaneously.

Looks like all the conversations about the Nuclear Terror, Disclosure/Space Weirdness, Election Fraud/CW2, Economic Holocaust, and the Quakes are co-resident in time.

The only thing missing now is a huge economic event, and a 8.0 quake or two.

The way the data is shaking out, I'd say both of these are due within 72 hours, at the latest.

Of course, my timing is always wrong.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

72 posted on 09/29/2010 9:22:09 AM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: The Comedian; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

END TIMES PING; FR WEBBOT UPDATE . . .


Thanks for the ping, bro.
Nuclear Terror, Lookingglass hit #4 within ONLY 24 HOURS.

Even I’m getting a little freaked out now. Seems my temporal sequencing was not only off, but completely wrong. Unnecessary. All these things are showing up simultaneously.

Looks like all the conversations about the Nuclear Terror, Disclosure/Space Weirdness, Election Fraud/CW2, Economic Holocaust, and the Quakes are co-resident in time.

The only thing missing now is a huge economic event, and a 8.0 quake or two.

The way the data is shaking out, I’d say both of these are due within 72 hours, at the latest.

Of course, my timing is always wrong.


LOL. Some have noticed.

Of course, most folks timing in such spheres seems to be off.


73 posted on 09/29/2010 9:29:04 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


74 posted on 09/29/2010 9:33:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Drumbo

I’d have caught that one, and heck, I edit for free! :-p


75 posted on 09/29/2010 9:39:06 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Quix

From 9/28

Fake earthquake prediction on twitter.

http://gawker.com/5649614/


76 posted on 09/29/2010 10:00:07 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: The Comedian; Quix

I’m a reasonable guy, I’m not a conspiracy theorist type and there are no black helicopters over my house with government agents attempting to read my brain waves.

That said, just last night I was musing about the current uniform public thought that some type of apocalyptic event will occur in the near future.

This is illustrated by recently released movies and obvious geopolitical events. It’s as if everyone has come to terms that a major global event is on the horizon. That the current paradigm of human life is about to be changed forever.

Or maybe I’m not so reasonable after all...


77 posted on 09/29/2010 10:02:25 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: markomalley

“Credible but not specific” is more detail than Americans have on Barack Obama who is neither credible nor specific.


78 posted on 09/29/2010 10:12:31 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: markomalley

I guarantee you that if a ‘Mumbai’ or Beslan style attack happens in this country, Americans will not sit around and wait for the police SWAT team to take their sweet time rescuing their family members.


79 posted on 09/29/2010 10:12:54 AM PDT by Stayfrosty
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To: markomalley

If they use this as an excuse to “postpone” the election, how many FReepers will defend the excuse because it is for “safety”?

They probably won’t postpone the election, but it’s possible. I find wondering about how many FReepers are ready, willing, and able to give up whatever freedoms government demands for the false promises of safety far more interesting.

My guess is at least 40% of FReepers would defend it “for the children”.


80 posted on 09/29/2010 10:18:46 AM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: All
Big yawn. Terrorists: so unscary these days. If I want to get frightened I look at who is in the halls of our government and then ponder that they still have approval ratings in the 30s.

I have met the enemy. And it is us.

81 posted on 09/29/2010 10:21:51 AM PDT by riri
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To: TSgt; Quix
It’s as if everyone has come to terms that a major global event is on the horizon. That the current paradigm of human life is about to be changed forever.

Well put.

We are a baby chick getting our last look at the inside of the egg.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

82 posted on 09/29/2010 10:24:48 AM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: markomalley


Please, I urge calm, the federal government is suspending elections until this matter is resolved ...
83 posted on 09/29/2010 10:32:54 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: markomalley; All
US law enforcement officials say they have been told the terrorists were planning a series of "Mumbai-style" commando raids on what were termed "economic or soft" targets in the countries.

Say. I just thought of this. Is it possible our Austin UT self-terminating gunboy yesterday got the Go signal, but didn't receive the Abort signal, and showed up alone and confused?

He looks kinda jihadi, even without a "Mohammad" in his name.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

84 posted on 09/29/2010 10:35:26 AM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: Fantasywriter

Barry would wet his pants if we had another terorist attack on our soil. The guy has a spine made of jello. I doubt he would vigorously / aggressively pursue an enemy, but rather go to the UN and ask for sanctions... or maybe treat it as merely a criminal matter.

So to your point... I’d agree that another attack would hurt the D’s more than the R’s. The response would be pathetic and for the last 2 years Barry has not led as a Commander In Cheif during a time that we are at war.


85 posted on 09/29/2010 10:58:22 AM PDT by Made In The USA (This post may be recorded for quality purposes.)
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To: Made In The USA

Agreed! That comment Obama made to Woodward, that the US could “absorb” a terrorist attack would come back to haunt him. This cold, detached, self-absorbed person would probably give a shout-out to Chief Running Pig, or whoever it was he mentioned after the Fort Hood shooting and *before* he got around to pretending to look somber. The MSM covered up for him then, but they couldn’t run sufficient interference after a larger scale terrorist attack. People would see the limp-noodle spined guy in the Oval Office for what he is, and that would NOT help the Dems.


86 posted on 09/29/2010 11:06:05 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: markomalley

A terrorist attack would result in Obama impeached and the rest of congress facing a lynch mob. A threat will result on our candidates being elected in a landslide and it would not benefit the Dems in any way. Martial Law being declared will result in the Dems getting dragged into the street and shot while the rest of the country’s officials face a firing squad. Stop thinking that an attack would cower the citizenry. Considering the current mentality of our citizenry, for anything to happen between now and up to the election would result in our governemnt getting ripped apart.

Stop underestimating the ability of people to go in the right direction.


87 posted on 09/29/2010 11:11:23 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: markomalley

I wouldnt be surprised if there was a terrorist attack sometime in October. Its exactly what Obama wants, he pretty much said it when he said “We can absorb another terrorist attack” that came out of no where..its like he knows one is coming so he is preparing people for that fact


88 posted on 09/29/2010 11:12:42 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: The Comedian

A Beslan style attack on our soil would create far more fear and panic than 9/11. It would also result in the immediate torching of every mosque in America.

The purpose of terror is just that, terror. It is not to kill as many people as possible, it is to get you to change what you are doing. And a Beslan event would...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis

God help us.


89 posted on 09/29/2010 11:16:49 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: The Comedian

Uh, does a 6.6 earthquake come close enough??
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2598498/posts


90 posted on 09/29/2010 11:41:47 AM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (Psalm 121)
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To: The Comedian

That’s always a possiility. Wonder what will be found on the kid’s PC?


91 posted on 09/29/2010 11:51:08 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: melkor
as soon as the first shot is fired... i think most of the ccw guys will be gun drawn and in low ready.. so that pretty much nullifies that.

When the first shots are fired, if the bad guys have not already targeted you because your pistol was concealed then you are AHEAD of the game and hold a clear advantage based on just being armed in a terrorist attack. If they are holding AK's that advantage shifts to them as having the superior weapon (maybe) but they will be busy mowing down sheep and unconcerned with resistance since they're there, to kill and be killed eventually anyway. So I disagree with this assertion.

...you can not win in a quick draw contest from a concealment holster vs a tango with an ak already out and active.

Assuming you are the only individual in his view and he has specifically targeted you, I'd have to agree but in real life there is going to be cover available in a mall. If I'm not cut down with the first shot, I'll make it to hard cover and then the playing field is more level. Not perfect, but I'll settle. If I can make it to hard cover, I'm still in the fight so I disagree with your second assertion.

Just because an active shooter is spraying the area doesn't automatically mean all resistance is going to be ineffective. In fact I'd much RATHER have somebody hosing the area down in full auto because that just degrades the accuracy all the more. Ever try it? I have and even with the techniques taught to me by some of the best infantrymen in the world, it is a real MISSION to be effective in hitting any specific target. That's when nobody is shooting back, too. Accuracy in the M16 on full auto (no 3rd burst for me when I was on active duty) is a dicey affair and it's going to be far worse when the caliber is 7.62x39. We learned to aim for the dirt at their feet and literally use the muzzle rise to walk the rounds up the body if you were doing that -- firing on full auto. But you have to remember that an M16 can empty a 20 rd magazine in just 2.2 seconds with the trigger fully depressed and absent any burst restrictions. So walking the rounds up or firing in the other classic pattern of a "Z" to engage is better suited to a belt fed weapon like our old and wonderful M60 or the newer SAWs.

Ask any battle tested soldier which opponent he fears more: The crazed jihadi spraying and praying -LOUDLY- (ALLAH-HU AKBAR!) or the SNIPER with some skills patiently waiting to drop a target at some distance. Me, I'll take that sniper far more seriously, every time. LOL not that I'm going to ignore any shooter opening fire under those circumstances in a committed terror attack on a soft target in my presence! My oath as an army officer is still in full force with me and just because I'm now a civilian doesn't mean I'm going to allow any terrorist unfettered access to the sheep when I'm around.

92 posted on 09/29/2010 12:05:49 PM PDT by ExSoldier (Zombie Hunters: We make dead things deader.)
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To: TSgt

SPOT ON.


93 posted on 09/29/2010 12:30:03 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: The Comedian

INDEED.

A RAPIDLY CRACKING EGG.


94 posted on 09/29/2010 12:30:57 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: JoyjoyfromNJ
Uh, does a 6.6 earthquake come close enough??

Not by orders of magnitude.

This is massive destruction of infrastructure and huge loss of life. Looks like 100k+ dead and Haiti-style destruction. Then it happens again in rapid succession.

To my mind, that means a pair of 8.0's or better.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

95 posted on 09/29/2010 12:39:02 PM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: markomalley

“We are all seeing increased activity by a more diverse set of groups and a more diverse set of threats.”

DIVERSITY GOOOOOD.

I guess she wants to make sure it’s not just Arab Moslems we’re blaming.


96 posted on 09/29/2010 12:41:38 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Callahan

Especially since all in power at the Fed are Dems.

Of course, for the last election a huge plurality of morons believed Repubs controlled Congress at the time!


97 posted on 09/29/2010 12:43:15 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: markomalley

US law enforcement officials say they have been told the terrorists were planning a series of "Mumbai-style" commando raids on what were termed "economic or soft" targets in the countries.

In testimony before Congress last week, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said, "We are all seeing increased activity by a more diverse set of groups and a more diverse set of threats."


Hey Janet, after you've finished investigating and maligning the Tea Party, Oath Keepers, et al, maybe you could find some time to look into these folks:

Ahmadinejad Has "hush-hush" Meal with Farrakhan and New Black Panthers in NYC

U.S. progressives meet with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad



98 posted on 09/29/2010 2:01:58 PM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: markomalley

No way this will help the Democrats. It would only serve as a reminder why Democrats can never be trusted with National Defense. I also think the muzzie would be impeached and removed from office should an attack occur.


99 posted on 09/29/2010 2:33:32 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: justsaynomore
Obama’s response was probably: “We can absorb a terrorist attack”.

Obama: "We need to absorb it and understand them to gain their favor".

100 posted on 09/29/2010 5:13:28 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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