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The GOP's dilemma: Winning over gay rights advocates could mean losing part of its base (RINO ALERT)
The Washington Post ^ | 2010-09-28 | Perry Bacon Jr.

Posted on 09/28/2010 7:47:12 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

When Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) agreed to attend a fundraising dinner in Washington for the Log Cabin Republicans, many social conservatives were outraged. The group has long urged the GOP to be more accepting of gay rights, and some Republicans worried that the appearance by Cornyn, a party leader in Congress, would further legitimize its views.

The senator not only attended the Log Cabin event at the Capitol Hill Club last Wednesday, he also accepted an award from the group, becoming the highest-ranking Republican to do so. After his speech, though, the group's president, R. Clarke Cooper, privately told Cornyn he still wanted him to back a repeal of "don't ask, don't tell," the policy that bans openly gay people from serving in the military. A day earlier, Cornyn, joined by 40 other Senate Republicans, had blocked a Democratic-pushed bill that would have changed the policy.

The strong views from both sides that Cornyn faced illustrated the complicated politics of gay rights for the GOP. As polls show that growing numbers of Americans back greater rights for gay men and lesbians, some well-known Republican figures, such as former party chairman Ken Mehlman,who recently came out, are calling for the party to shift its stances on such issues. But Christian conservatives warn that the GOP could lose its base if it endorses same-sex marriage or takes other pro-gay-rights stands.

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1 posted on 09/28/2010 7:47:20 PM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

Do the Log Cabin Republicans reall stan for Conservative Values.

It doesn’t appear that they do.

Like all Hmosexuals they are only interested in advocating their perversions.


2 posted on 09/28/2010 7:49:59 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: rabscuttle385

The last thing this country needs is flaming homos in the military.


3 posted on 09/28/2010 7:51:32 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Venturer

Conservatives don’t care if they’re gay, we just don’t have any desire to hear about it and want no special treatment for anyone.


4 posted on 09/28/2010 7:51:33 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: rabscuttle385

Gays = 1%, cannot reproduce, and tend to die young (i.e. participation in fewer voting cycles).

Conservatives = 40-42%, tend to have more kids than average (passing on the ideology), and live a lot longer on average.

Cornyn needs to figure it out realy quick - which group has your long-term growth potential?


5 posted on 09/28/2010 7:52:39 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (is a Jim DeMint Republican. You might say he's a funDeMintalist conservative.)
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To: rabscuttle385

2% of the population who wouldn’t vote GOP no matter what? or 70% of the party base?

What a quandry. Must keep them up nights.


6 posted on 09/28/2010 7:53:58 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: GeronL
My thought exactly.

Damn the torpedo's .. full speed ahead ... no queers, no abortion, no NEA, no ACLU, no UN .. let's just let it all hang out.

Let's rumble and get it over with.

7 posted on 09/28/2010 7:58:18 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: cripplecreek

THAT is exactly what I was thinking, and what I believe most conservatives believe. I could give a hoot in hell whether a person is a homo or not.

What I can’t stand is the “in your face”, “look at me, I’m a loud, obnoxious queer” stuff. That’s just poor behavior, regardless of sexual persuasion.

Why don’t we all just keep private matters, private?


8 posted on 09/28/2010 7:59:14 PM PDT by PhiloBedo
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To: Venturer

“Like all Hmosexuals they are only interested in advocating their perversions.”

So if I am to understand this correctly, The Log Cabin Republicans can believe in a strong military, a secure border, less government spending. less government period, be pro life, go to the religious institution they want, and are even pro civil union and not pro gay marriage, and this still isn’t good enough for you?


9 posted on 09/28/2010 7:59:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Remember March 23, 1775. Remember March 23, 2010)
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To: cripplecreek
Conservatives don’t care if they’re gay

Sorry, that isn't true. We want them to turn to Christ.

10 posted on 09/28/2010 8:00:50 PM PDT by TNLawyer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,")
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To: knarf

bump


11 posted on 09/28/2010 8:02:36 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: rabscuttle385

The GOP should run, not walk, away from the gay issue. In doing so, it should point out that the Democrats are also against most gay rights’ issues, i.e., gay marriage and whatnot.


12 posted on 09/28/2010 8:02:58 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: PhiloBedo
"I could give a hoot in hell whether a person is a homo or not."

Sorry, but we believe in Christian values on this board and we don't support the homo agenda. We DO care that they are homo. We want them to turn to Christ.

13 posted on 09/28/2010 8:03:41 PM PDT by TNLawyer ("Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,")
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To: rabscuttle385

Being tolerant of gay rights isn’t a play against the gay 2% of the vote.

It’s a play for the libertarians in the 36% MODERATE chunk of the vote. Those same moderates who may be leary of voting alongside social conservatives.

You don’t have to like the gays. In fact, you don’t even have to deal with them.

But we need the moderates.


14 posted on 09/28/2010 8:05:10 PM PDT by Khorum08
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To: EQAndyBuzz
So if I am to understand this correctly, The Log Cabin Republicans can believe in a strong military, a secure border, less government spending. less government period, be pro life, go to the religious institution they want, and are even pro civil union and not pro gay marriage, and this still isn’t good enough for you?

I think he means if a citizen believes in all that you describe...why does he have to tell the world, and join a group advertising his preference for anal sex?

These "Log Cabin Republicans" could just remain regular voters like the rest of us who do not CONSTANTLY talk about our sex lives in public. Good grief!

15 posted on 09/28/2010 8:12:40 PM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: rabscuttle385

Cornyn really sucks. Hee hee hee.


16 posted on 09/28/2010 8:13:50 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: rabscuttle385
Winning over gay rights advocates ...

To what end? [npi]

17 posted on 09/28/2010 8:15:29 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: Khorum08

I assure you that those same moderates won’t give a hoot about the gays if they are worried they won’t have a job and their children’s children’s children will be saddled with trillions of dollars in debt. They will support conservatives if conservatives stick by their beliefs — lower taxes, smaller government, as well as no special rights for any group. The trouble comes when the “moderates,” aka elites, want to reach across the aisle to please their friends the democrats and don’t care one bit about “we the people.” If the moderates don’t see any difference between republicans and the democrats, they have no reason to vote for them.


18 posted on 09/28/2010 8:17:54 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Homos want to be identified by their sexual predilictions, which center around hurting themselves and others. Odd how this never comes up in the discussion. Cupcakes like to sell the idea that two guys cuddle occasionally, and then decorate with paisleys. RINOs and progressives like to pretend to believe this fantasy, to use as a hammer against religious belief.

A CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF THE BIG LIE!!

19 posted on 09/28/2010 8:22:53 PM PDT by jonascord (The Tea Party just gave the Republican senators an ice water enema.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“The Log Cabin Republicans can believe in a strong military, a secure border, less government spending. less government period, be pro life, go to the religious institution they want, and are even pro civil union and not pro gay marriage,”

This is a false assertion.

They don’t believe any of the above, not very passionately anyway. They are all about their sexual habits. That’s what they organize around. That’s their reason for living. It consumes them.

All they are doing is advocating for the acceptance of perversion.

Otherwise they’d just join the Central Committee and work like the rest of us.


20 posted on 09/28/2010 8:33:44 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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