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New Australian footage of Neil Armstrong's moon walk
AP ^ | Tue Sep 28, 5:46 am ET | Unknown

Posted on 09/28/2010 7:47:29 PM PDT by Redcitizen

SYDNEY (AFP) – Long-lost footage of Neil Armstrong descending the ladder of the Apollo 11 lunar module will be screened in public for the first time in Sydney next week, a prominent astronomer told AFP.

The footage runs for a few minutes and is considered to be some of the best footage of the historic 1969 moonwalk, but the film was lost in archives for many years and was badly damaged when found, said John Sarkissian.

It depicts the first few minutes of Armstrong's descent which was recorded in Australia as NASA was still scrambling for a signal, showing a far clearer image than was initially screened worldwide.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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KEYWORDS: history; moon; space
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I say we should go back.
1 posted on 09/28/2010 7:47:31 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Redcitizen

I’ll second that.


2 posted on 09/28/2010 7:49:29 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Redcitizen

I can tell you here in FL they are none too happy with the space program being nixed.

Obama has no idea how much he is going to lose here, or perhaps he does. The Space program is a place of personal pride to FL - it is a unique and special industry that reminds Floridians we do have some high tech industries.


3 posted on 09/28/2010 7:51:18 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: Redcitizen

How incompetent to you have to be to “lose” original footage of man’s very first walk on the moon? You would think that would have been treated like the Crown Jewels. Just more evidence of the efficiency and care of government.


4 posted on 09/28/2010 7:51:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Redcitizen

Great! Now we need an English translation.


5 posted on 09/28/2010 7:53:50 PM PDT by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Redcitizen

I say we should go back, and get the flag that supposedly was left,....half of the world doubts that the USA ever arrived on the Moon.


6 posted on 09/28/2010 7:54:20 PM PDT by rovenstinez (,)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It was the Aussies’ film, taken from independent reception of the moon landing video. Though why Americans didn’t immediately buy copies, is odd.


7 posted on 09/28/2010 7:54:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: I still care

FL voted for Obama and Bill Nelson so let em eat cake. I live north of there and they always had their big NASA govt checks. Waving their NASA money at the locals.

NASA was good when the Germans ran it.


8 posted on 09/28/2010 7:55:34 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Pravious; KevinDavis
bump

I saw a report the other day that mentioned that data logs from the Pioneer spacecraft were saved from the trash.

9 posted on 09/28/2010 7:55:50 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: I still care

Its a big step backward to lose the shuttles. My opinion is that we should be on at least the 3rd generation shuttle with a sizeable fleet by now.


10 posted on 09/28/2010 7:56:01 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It wasn’t really lost. The Australian recording was so much better because the US recievers or something weren’t dialed in correctly for a clear picture, we got the blurry version.


11 posted on 09/28/2010 7:57:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Frantzie

Not my area of FL.

I don’t have sympathy for the blue areas, though.


12 posted on 09/28/2010 7:57:39 PM PDT by I still care (I believe in the universality of freedom -George Bush, asked if he regrets going to war.)
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To: rovenstinez

“half of the world doubts that the USA ever arrived on the Moon.’

That’s because half of the world doesn’t own a good telescope.


13 posted on 09/28/2010 7:57:48 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The US was out of line-of-sight or something and we got our feed from Australia but the reception device was not set right and we saw the blurry feed.


14 posted on 09/28/2010 7:59:38 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

It was intended for the TV audience, and was not considered part of the mission record, which in itself is quite extensive, and of course available on the internet.

Have you looked at any of it?


15 posted on 09/28/2010 7:59:53 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, it was the property of NASA. The station was part of NASA’s deep space network.


16 posted on 09/28/2010 8:00:18 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: BallyBill

Found the translation you asked for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXQizXMLBRg


17 posted on 09/28/2010 8:00:34 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: I still care

“Obama has no idea how much he is going to lose here, or perhaps he does. “

Intentional deconstruction of American Exceptionalism.


18 posted on 09/28/2010 8:06:36 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Redcitizen

The video from the moon was Slow Scan Television (SSTV) at 10 frames per second, and 320 lines of video.

US Broadcast television (NTSC) is 29.97 frames per second, with 525 lines of video.

The video from the moon when through a very crude scan converter before it could be aired on US television. That is why the video we know is so crappy looking.

These “lost” films are 8mm home movies of the SSTV monitor at the Australia tracking station before it was scan converted to NTSC. Hence they look sharper, with more detail, than the crappy 1969 era scan conversion looks.

It says a lot when shooting 8mm home movies off of a televison screen is considered “good.”


19 posted on 09/28/2010 8:15:57 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Redcitizen

The space program brings pride to real Americans, American pride is definitely NOT part of the Obama/Soros agenda, quite the opposite.


20 posted on 09/28/2010 8:21:40 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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To: Redcitizen

Just simply amazing that it was lost at all. Apparently NASA didn’t gave a hoot.


21 posted on 09/28/2010 8:28:02 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Redcitizen

There was a great family film that came out in 200 about Australia’s connection to the Moon Landing... check it out...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dish


22 posted on 09/28/2010 8:31:59 PM PDT by Kukai
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To: PetroniusMaximus

“American Exceptionalism”

Does anybody know when and where this phrase originated?

I suspect it was invented by Seymour Martin Lipset in the 1990s to represent the neoconservative theory that America is a country founded on an ideology, rather than the conservative view of a country founded by an historic people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/style/longterm/books/chap1/americanexceptionalism.htm

I don’t see why conservatives adopt it. At best it’s hubris, at worst it’s warmed over marxism with a patriotic camouflage.


23 posted on 09/28/2010 8:32:41 PM PDT by Pelham (Deport Aunt Zeituni and her alien nephew)
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To: dr_lew

No. Is it good?


24 posted on 09/28/2010 8:35:20 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Redcitizen

>I say we should go back.
*****

Of course. Bush said we were going back but Jarjar Obama scrapped the budget. The footage is far superior than what NASA currently shows us.


25 posted on 09/28/2010 8:35:42 PM PDT by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: Redcitizen

I say we put Obama and Pelosi on the moon and leave them there.


26 posted on 09/28/2010 8:35:44 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Redcitizen

Outtakes from the footage my long retired sworn to secrecy cousin took at the legendary Burbank studio that once had hosted the silver screen legends like Edna Purveyance, Fatty Arbuckle and Harold Lloyd.


27 posted on 09/28/2010 8:39:37 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Kukai

“Some of the “props” were in fact original NASA equipment used during the Apollo 11 landing, left behind in Australia as they were too heavy to ship back.”

Neat movie. Although it goes to show- don’t throw things out. You might need it. =)


28 posted on 09/28/2010 8:41:58 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: KevinDavis; Fred Nerks

Thanks Redcitizen.


29 posted on 09/28/2010 8:44:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: BallyBill

Just another walkabout.


30 posted on 09/28/2010 8:46:03 PM PDT by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: Redcitizen

Bookmark


31 posted on 09/28/2010 8:48:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Redcitizen

Thank God there was an Aussie cameraman on the moon!


32 posted on 09/28/2010 9:03:20 PM PDT by bunkerhill7
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To: Kukai

Saw that movie a couple of years ago- my astronomy club operates an observatory near Georgian Bay (Ontario, Canada) and the facility includes a library of videos and DVDs to watch when there is no sky. Superb film- my favourite scene was the employees on a break playing cricket on the dish itself.


33 posted on 09/28/2010 9:05:52 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Redcitizen
My dad worked at NASA/JSC during the moon shots, I had friends and went to school with kids whose fathers went to the moon. I have absolutely no doubt our astronauts went there and have great respect for the people that actually did the work - BUT - if NASA's mission is to now promote Moslems and global warming climate change disruption, let NASA die.
34 posted on 09/28/2010 9:05:58 PM PDT by theymakemesick ( islam - inspired by Satan www.prophetofdoom.net)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Excellent film- trust me, if you’re into space at all you’ll love it.


35 posted on 09/28/2010 9:07:05 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (TSA and DHS are jobs programs for people who are not smart enough to flip burgers)
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To: Pelham

Nope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

“The French writer Alexis de Tocqueville first wrote about it in his 1831 work Democracy in America:[7]

The position of the Americans is therefore quite exceptional, and it may be believed that no democratic people will ever be placed in a similar one. Their strictly Puritanical origin, their exclusively commercial habits, even the country they inhabit, which seems to divert their minds from the pursuit of science, literature, and the arts, the proximity of Europe, which allows them to neglect these pursuits without relapsing into barbarism, a thousand special causes, of which I have only been able to point out the most important, have singularly concurred to fix the mind of the American upon purely practical objects. His passions, his wants, his education, and everything about him seem to unite in drawing the native of the United States earthward; his religion alone bids him turn, from time to time, a transient and distracted glance to heaven. Let us cease, then, to view all democratic nations under the example of the American people.[8]”


36 posted on 09/28/2010 9:12:55 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: I still care
People @ Johnson Space Center aren't real happy either.

It makes no sense to kill the space program, IMO...why the bozo POTUS is doing it.

I think he is vindictive towards Texas because he didn't carry our state.

37 posted on 09/28/2010 9:13:43 PM PDT by lonestar
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I say we should go back.

So do I.

It breaks my heart that our nation didn't continue to fund the lunar exploration program. What's sadder still, is that we may have even lost the manufacturing capability to return there today.

38 posted on 09/28/2010 9:14:29 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Pelham

Furthermore...

“In 1927 Jay Lovestone, leader of the Communist Party in America, defined American exceptionalism as the increasing strength of American capitalism, a strength which he said prevented Communist revolution”


39 posted on 09/28/2010 9:15:31 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Bigh4u2

The flag is impossible to see from earth. There aren’t any telescopes capable of focusing on such a small object that far away. And no Hubble is not good enough.

The biggest telescope being built right now - Magellan - won’t even be able to focus on our flag. It’s simply too small. Too many variables, and the technology doesn’t even exist. We need to build something about 3 times the size of Magellan. That might sound easy, but we have no idea how to build a telescope that big.

May your using something different? :)


40 posted on 09/28/2010 9:17:41 PM PDT by Jlazoon
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To: Jlazoon
what flag, the one on Mars?
Love, Sheila Jackson Lee
41 posted on 09/28/2010 9:24:43 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("It's amazing, A man who has such large ears could be so tone deaf" Rush Limbaugh 9/8/10)
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To: theymakemesick

darn right! you called that dead on the money Sick!! NOTHING was, or has been, as cool/neat,(old guy speak),as Projects Mercury/Gemini/Apollo and the STUDS who went up! My God those MEN were bowling ball sized. Quite a time in our Country huh? Those MEN were flat out something! Now......????......muslim hussein is asking the American people and NASA to regonize the muSLIME’S efforts!! Good God.


42 posted on 09/28/2010 9:29:07 PM PDT by bobby.223
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To: oldbill
No, it was the property of NASA. The station was part of NASA’s deep space network.

It depicts the first few minutes of Armstrong's descent which was recorded in Australia as NASA was still scrambling for a signal....
Telescopes in remote Australia played a key role in the Apollo 11 mission....

The author of the article doesn't seem to be aware of the fact that the DSN station in Woomera and later Tidbinbilla, Australia and another near Madrid, Spain were the property of the American tax payers and operated by NASA employees.

I have to wonder if this is just ignorance on their part or are we seeing the beginnings of an attempt to revise history to make the American Apollo program more of a "multi-cultural" effort.

43 posted on 09/28/2010 9:47:31 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Is it good?

Did this little pig cry, "Wee Wee Wee," all the way home?

I like this one ... "Journal Contributors Owen Merrick, Brian McInall, and Markus Mehring call attention to the fact that, in the high-resolution version, we can see Buzz peering over at Neil."

44 posted on 09/28/2010 9:48:04 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Redcitizen
I say we should go back.

I agree.

When I was young I lived in a country that could land a man on the moon. Sadly I now live in a country that will soon have to pay the Russians for a ride to low earth orbit in one of their spacecraft to visit a space station that we largely paid for.

45 posted on 09/28/2010 9:52:58 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: Redcitizen
I was a young lad with hormones working overtime when this happened. I was soooo hoping for Moon Maidens. All we got was gray dust and rocks .
46 posted on 09/28/2010 10:00:58 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Redcitizen

What’s this? We made it to the moon?


47 posted on 09/28/2010 10:25:16 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA
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To: NavyCanDo
All we got was gray dust and rocks .

When my kids were little ( early 80's ) we took them to an Apollo exhibition at the Chicago Museum of Science an Industry which featured a moon rock on display. They were entirely unimpressed, and completely unswayed by my pleading, "It's from the moon!" I could have cried ... still could.

48 posted on 09/28/2010 10:40:59 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dr_who

“I say we put Obama and Pelosi on the moon and leave them there.”

First you have to get them off Uranus.


49 posted on 09/28/2010 11:06:06 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Redcitizen

This video footage has been on youtube for a long time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_GzwzaJuwY


50 posted on 09/28/2010 11:28:36 PM PDT by Revel
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