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As home-schooling moves to mainstream, stigma fades
MSNBC ^ | 9/27/2010 | Vidya Rao

Posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:54 AM PDT by GonzoII

Fifteen-year-old Tess Rodrigues is a typical teenager: She spends her free time at the mall, hangs out with friends and stays connected on Facebook.

But unlike most 10th-graders, Tess is home- schooled by her mother, and supplements her studies in marine biology, Spanish and world history with help from a weekly home- school co-op group.

“My mom and I laugh a lot and have fun,” Tess said. “And with the work, I get to go at my own pace, unlike a regular classroom. I can speed through lessons that are easy, and take time to go over things if I don’t get them.”

Her mother, Lisa Landis Rodrigues, started home-schooling her three children when t hey were in second, fourth and fifth grade.

“I’m not anti-school at all — I think teachers are awesome and I think most schools are great,” said the Rhode Island mom. “But morally, I think they go way too fast. I wanted my 10-year-old to be a 10-year-old, not get caught up in how other kids dress and act, so I decided to home-school them.”

Though such students represent an estimated 3 percent of the population, evidence suggests that home-schooling is a growing trend in America. While most say faith is their primary motivation, others choose this path for a variety of reasons that include dissatisfaction with the local school system, caring for special-needs kids, safety concerns, flexibility to travel and the chance to spend more time with their children.

And, proponents say, the home-schoolers of yesteryear, stereotyped as socially awkward, religiously dogmatic and ill-prepared for the real world, aren’t representative of current home-schoolers who more closely mirror the mainstream.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arth; education; family; frhf; homeschooling; parenting
As I understand it homeschoolers outperform those who are not, it should be going mainstream.
1 posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:57 AM PDT by GonzoII
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To: GonzoII

I’m a public school teacher who plans on homeschooling my son.


2 posted on 09/29/2010 7:51:33 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GonzoII

Hmmmm...my 15 year old homeschooled child is in her 5th semester at the local university and hates the mall. This mom is a slacker ;)


3 posted on 09/29/2010 7:52:31 AM PDT by pops88
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To: GonzoII
I went to public preschool, incidentally in Rhode Island, and was home-schooled from there on.
4 posted on 09/29/2010 7:54:08 AM PDT by Celtic Cross (Pablo is very whiney)
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To: GonzoII

Stigma?


5 posted on 09/29/2010 7:55:36 AM PDT by tje
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To: GonzoII

Hehe. My filter blocked the MSNBC site.


6 posted on 09/29/2010 7:56:53 AM PDT by christianhomeschoolmommaof3
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To: GonzoII
I think teachers are awesome and I think most schools are great

Yeah, right.

7 posted on 09/29/2010 7:56:53 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: goodwithagun
"...I’m a public school teacher who plans on homeschooling my son...."

I have heard this same comment, over and over, from those who work in the public schools.

That in itself is a big selling point for homeschooling.

8 posted on 09/29/2010 7:58:34 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: tje

what stigma was ever there?

Maybe there was a stigma to the liberals at MSNBC who wrote this artice, but I never thought there was a stigma as such to home schooling.

Insight into the liberal mind.............


9 posted on 09/29/2010 7:59:11 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GonzoII
I think teachers are awesome and I think most schools are great,...

Well, *I* think that some teachers would love to do a better job actually teaching, but their hands are tied by the administration and parents who threaten lawsuits.

My wife trained as a teacher, and my SIL is a teacher--both absolutely hate the system, since it actually prevents effective teaching.

10 posted on 09/29/2010 8:01:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: tje
"Stigma?"

Home-schooling moves to mainstream, as leaven takes effect

How's that?

11 posted on 09/29/2010 8:01:27 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: I Buried My Guns; goodwithagun
We hoimeschooled our boys for 10 years, and our greatest encouragement came from don-o's mother and sister, Grandma and Aunt Linda: both of them excellentpresent or former public school teachers.
12 posted on 09/29/2010 8:03:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Liberalism is socialism in its larval form.)
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To: GonzoII

I never thought about how my children were just that until I saw many of their peers. Nine year olds that acted like they were in their teens. I thought maybe I was stifling my children, but realized they were still being children, rather than rushing to be adults. My daughter is 12 and physically looks 16. But, she is more interested in dolls than boys and her younger friends are amazed that she plays with them. “You do realize I am only 9,” one has said. My daughter’s makes friends with anyone from toddlerhood to adulthood. She never thinks of age.


13 posted on 09/29/2010 8:03:57 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: GonzoII

I never thought about how my children were just that until I saw many of their peers. Nine year olds that acted like they were in their teens. I thought maybe I was stifling my children, but realized they were still being children, rather than rushing to be adults. My daughter is 12 and physically looks 16. But, she is more interested in dolls than boys and her younger friends are amazed that she plays with them. “You do realize I am only 9,” one has said. My daughter makes friends with anyone from toddlerhood to adulthood. She never thinks of age.


14 posted on 09/29/2010 8:04:07 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: I Buried My Guns

I believe in what I’m doing as a school teacher; however, there are many things that anger me about public education. I want my son to have better. I know that there is vast standardized test cheating as well as many other means to shuffle kids through the system. We are harming them by doing this. I uphold standards in my classroom, but I know that some teachers my son will have won’t.


15 posted on 09/29/2010 8:04:21 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: GonzoII
A large majority of urban public school teachers do NOT send their own children to public schools.

That should speak volumes to anyone who is paying attention.

16 posted on 09/29/2010 8:08:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance ("The laws of nature are the laws of God, whose authority can be superseded by no power on earth.")
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To: GonzoII

We are in our 29th year of home schooling and holding home school clinics for parents.

Have you all been keeping up with Obama’s proposals for longer school years, etc.?

In 1983 an attendance officer in Citrus County, Florida tried to trap me by asking me how many days each year our children are “in class.”

My answer? 365!


17 posted on 09/29/2010 8:13:07 AM PDT by John Leland 1789 (Grateful)
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To: pops88

>>Hmmmm...my 15 year old homeschooled child is in her 5th semester at the local university and hates the mall. This mom is a slacker ;)<<

LOL!
But seriously, the head of our homeschool group, who knows my daughter very well, told me not to push her into college. This lady’s son graduated with an associates at 17. She said that my daughter may not be ready to start at 14. Not all kids are. I’ll try and put her in with simple classes like Keyboarding and Math. But some kids are made to start it at a younger age.


18 posted on 09/29/2010 8:17:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("Happiness is a choice"-Fr. Ben Ludtke. Pray for healing of his Brain Tumor, pls.)
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To: GonzoII

his is from MSNBC???


19 posted on 09/29/2010 8:22:38 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: GonzoII
This
20 posted on 09/29/2010 8:23:17 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: netmilsmom

Some kids are definitely not ready to start college so early. I started at 17 and it was disastrous. Our daughter grew up over seas (several countries) and had a very different experience than most. She hated the couple years of public school she had in the U.S. She fit right in when she started college and could relate better to her older peers. One size doesn’t fit all, which is one reason public education is such a failure.


21 posted on 09/29/2010 8:24:19 AM PDT by pops88
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To: GonzoII

More and more Americans are beginning to care about their children’s education.


22 posted on 09/29/2010 8:24:21 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ping.


23 posted on 09/29/2010 8:25:31 AM PDT by GonzoII ("That they may be one...Father")
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To: pops88

Exactly!


24 posted on 09/29/2010 8:30:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom ("Happiness is a choice"-Fr. Ben Ludtke. Pray for healing of his Brain Tumor, pls.)
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To: GonzoII

One thing that homeschoolers have to remember, the left will understand, if they don’t already, the “threat” that homeschooling presents to their ideology.

Make sure you are members of HSLDA or equivalent,
so that these folks can continue to fight for us
within the law.

As one German leftist judge stated, [para] “we cannot allow them to create a parallel society”.

I guess in this “parallel society”, didactic thinkers would not be subject to the manipulation of dialectic facilitators that seek to push everyone into a “consensus” socialist society.


25 posted on 09/29/2010 8:31:41 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: metmom; JenB; Clintonfatigued

I haven’t read the article yet, but it’s of interest to us.


26 posted on 09/29/2010 8:35:22 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: EternalVigilance
A large majority of urban public school teachers do NOT send their own children to public schools.

That should speak volumes to anyone who is paying attention.

Not only is this true, it has been true for decades. The home-schooling movement did not appear for no reason, and the reason is simply that the public school system, systematically failed at educating, and has failed for a long time...

the infowarrior

27 posted on 09/29/2010 8:37:05 AM PDT by infowarrior
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To: goodwithagun

My kids are homeschooled - my youngest does all his schooling at home, except for one class in a local program.

My teen is in a very good situation. He goes to a “homeschool” program that meets 2 days a week. During those days, all the instruction is given by certified teachers. They assign work for the other three days at home. Labs and Clubs (Beta, Drama, Music, Band, ROTC) meet on the “off” days too. The program is accredited and they take care of transcripts too. They have a sister sports program (available to all homeschoolers) that has every sport you can imagine, and they compete in private school leagues in GA. The sports program is the school’s mascot so there is a lot of coordination between the two (pep rallies, cheerleading fundraisers, band, ROTC color guard, etc)

Tuition is much less than private schools around here, ~ $2k a year. The teachers love it because it is a decent paying part time job that allows them to homeschool their own kids. Another benefit is that parents and teachers are partners in the process.

There are over 1000 kids in this school, and about 2000 kids in the sports program. The waiting list is long, for both students and teachers.

I don’t need the program for my younger son, he’s happy and content doing what he does for now. For my high schooler, it is a very good fit.

Anyway, all of that is to say that things like this are great options for teachers. I hope that we will see teachers around the country put together programs/coops like this. It is a good option for parents of high schoolers who want some supportive programs (although you don’t need it to homeschool in high school - we just really like it :)


28 posted on 09/29/2010 8:38:00 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Please help us put Herman over 30K fans - www.facebook.com/THEHermanCain)
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To: GonzoII

Just about all my neighbors home school their kids. There must be about thirty kids around here, who are all home schooled. One of the families are both teachers, the man teaches in the public schools and his wife stays home and home schools her kids and her sister’s kids. We have a neighbor who is a retired bio-chem professor from Purdue and he helps out with the science studies for all the kids and these kids are all amazing.

I met one home schooler at a Republican function, he had volunteered to do door belling and I gave him a ride home. He asked my what church I went to and invited me to attend his. These parents are truly doing an amazing job.


29 posted on 09/29/2010 8:41:19 AM PDT by Eva
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To: goodwithagun

My homeschooled son’s best friend was the homeschooled son of the public school system’s psychologist. Both have graduated college now and are working at good jobs.My son got married this past summer.

We’re a second generation homeschool family now. My daughter is homeschooling her two.


30 posted on 09/29/2010 8:42:20 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: infowarrior

You’re absolutely right.


31 posted on 09/29/2010 8:45:06 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Show 'em the rope, point at the branch, get ready to kick the horse..)
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To: Izzy Dunne

“I think teachers are awesome and I think most schools are great.”..........Yeah, right. “

She’s just killing them with kindness.


32 posted on 09/29/2010 8:48:11 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Political correctness in America today is a Rip Van Winkle acid trip.)
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To: infowarrior

Yes, they have failed at educating,
but I assert that it has been more of a
changing of goals than a failure.

They are “failing” at educating, because that is no longer the goal.
The goal is indoctrination and the making of two classes of citizens - unthinking workers and indoctrinated elitist “rulers”.


33 posted on 09/29/2010 8:51:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Tired of Taxes; JenB; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; ...
I think for both lists this time.

ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL

This ping list is for the “other” articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. This can occasionally be a fairly high volume list. Articles pinged to the Another Reason to Homeschool List will be given the keyword of ARTH. (If I remember. If I forget, please feel free to add it yourself)

The main Homeschool Ping List handles the homeschool-specific articles. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping list. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added to or removed from either list, or both.

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

34 posted on 09/29/2010 9:04:53 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

Would you be so kind as to add me to both lists please?


35 posted on 09/29/2010 9:10:54 AM PDT by sfimom
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To: GonzoII
And, proponents say, the home-schoolers of yesteryear, stereotyped as socially awkward, religiously dogmatic and ill-prepared for the real world, aren’t representative of current home-schoolers who more closely mirror the mainstream.

Um, how 'bout, proponents say that stereotype was always wromg? As a graduated homeschooler and homeschool mom myself, that idea is total nonsense. Well, not the religiously dogmatic part, maybe, but I'll see his "socially awkward and ill-prepared" and raise one "happily married, with a house, baby, and Master's degree in computer science".

36 posted on 09/29/2010 9:11:07 AM PDT by JenB
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To: sfimom

Sure thing.


37 posted on 09/29/2010 9:19:57 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JenB

I’ve met some who fit the stereotype, but far more who didn’t.

We’re homeschoolers of yesteryear. We started in the early 199’s when homeschooling was just taking off, and I’d defy anyone to look at me or my kids and say *Homeschool stereotype.*

And I’ll raise them a physics major, a chemistry/math major, and an engineer.


38 posted on 09/29/2010 9:22:45 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JenB

Rats,... you just can’t stop the post when you see a typo as you’re proofreading while you post.

That’s 1990s....


39 posted on 09/29/2010 9:24:31 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: goodwithagun
I’m a public school teacher who plans on homeschooling my son.

And you are NOT alone.

One of the chapter leaders of the NYS L.E.A.H chapters was a public school teacher at the time.

I presume that he's still teaching as that was his job but have lost touch with the group when we moved and the kids graduated.

40 posted on 09/29/2010 9:26:47 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: GonzoII

Thanks for posting from a homeschool dad (we just passed 7 years homeschooling our 2 kids).


41 posted on 09/29/2010 9:43:12 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (There is no "common good" which minimizes or sacrifices the individual. --Walter Scott Hudson)
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To: MrB
The goal is indoctrination and the making of two classes of citizens - unthinking workers and indoctrinated elitist “rulers”.

Actually, the original Prussian model called for three classes of subjects. 1.5% -- the children of the elite, got tutorial instruction that stressed reading, writing, thinking, problem-solving. 4.5% -- the higher-level servitors of the State, the pastors, preachers, professors, pettifoggers, pencil-pushers -- went into the "Talented and Gifted" program. While tools of the ruling class, they were a step above the 94%, the docile factory hands and cannon fodder who followed orders, knew their place, stayed there, and made sure all their peers did, too.

A number of kids from a local residential school for gifted kids attend our church. I tell them to look up the word "Janissary." You can run an empire of slaves, with slaves, as long as the slaves you are running it with are alienated and privileged slaves.

42 posted on 09/29/2010 9:45:49 AM PDT by RJR_fan (Christians need to reclaim and excel in the genre of science fiction.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

When we started home schooling, we thought we’d get some flack from my aunt, a former teacher, school superintendent and employee of the state board of education.

WRONG. She was a great supporter.


43 posted on 09/29/2010 10:08:26 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: GonzoII

at what point does it reach the tipping point when public schools can’t demand as much tax money?


44 posted on 09/29/2010 10:10:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GonzoII
As a brand new homeschooling family, I must say we LOVE it. Our daughter hated public school and was bored beyond reason. Her teacher thought it was a fault my child didn't lie and got upset by children who did! I'd had enough and the closer the school year got the more stressed we became. I just couldn't send her back to that place.

We found a great Christian-based online curriculum. We decided to skip 2nd grade, with a concern math might be a bit difficult. I'm proud to say she is carrying a 99% average and I know she is learning the subject matter.

For someone contemplating homeschooling, I recommend the online curriculum approach as a easy way to start.

45 posted on 09/29/2010 11:40:13 AM PDT by buschbaby (Beware! Momma Bear on the prowl. Grrrr)
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To: GonzoII
As a brand new homeschooling family, I must say we LOVE it. Our daughter hated public school and was bored beyond reason. Her teacher thought it was a fault my child didn't lie and got upset by children who did! I'd had enough and the closer the school year got the more stressed we became. I just couldn't send her back to that place.

We found a great Christian-based online curriculum. We decided to skip 2nd grade, with a concern math might be a bit difficult. I'm proud to say she is carrying a 99% average and I know she is learning the subject matter.

For someone contemplating homeschooling, I recommend the online curriculum approach as a easy way to start.

46 posted on 09/29/2010 11:40:27 AM PDT by buschbaby (Beware! Momma Bear on the prowl. Grrrr)
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To: MrB
Yes, they have failed at educating, but I assert that it has been more of a changing of goals than a failure.

The goal is, indeed as you've said, to indoctrinate, but that was the goal from the very beginning. Dewey and his cohorts lifted the system directly from Prussia, expressly for the purpose. They fail at educating, because that was never their goal to start with...

the infowarrior

47 posted on 09/30/2010 9:09:04 PM PDT by infowarrior
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