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2 Rutgers Freshmen Charged Making Sex Tape Of Student (The young man killed himself)
PIX Channel 11 NJ ^ | 9-29-2010 | ARTHUR CHI'EN and SHELLEY NG

Posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:14 AM PDT by Frantzie

NEW JERSEY (WPIX) — A freshman at Rutgers University is believed to have committed suicide after he was secretly taped by two other students during a sexual encounter, police said. The video was allegedly broadcast on the internet.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: bullying; consequences; crime; homosexualagenda; invasionofprivacy; privacyrights; richpunks; rutger; rutgerscriminals; selfdestruction; sexualharassment; suicide; video; wiretapping
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The young man killed himself. I hope these two get charged with involuntary manslaughter. They should never be allowed on any U.S. campus or be allowed to enroll in any U.S. university.
1 posted on 09/29/2010 11:19:21 AM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

Just damn...

It made Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian famous.


2 posted on 09/29/2010 11:20:55 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Frantzie
Makes me wonder if the kid was having a homosexual relationship and these two wanted to 'out' him.

I don't think he would have killed himself had he been with a young woman?

Just speculation.

3 posted on 09/29/2010 11:22:40 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Frantzie
the money quote

"Roommate asked for the room till midnight," he tweeted on Sept. 19. "I went into Molly's room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay."

4 posted on 09/29/2010 11:22:40 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: Frantzie
Agreed.

If this was over the boy's being homosexual, I dread the hate bs crime that will be attached.

5 posted on 09/29/2010 11:25:01 AM PDT by fml
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To: Frantzie

Days before the shocking suicide, Ravi posted to his Twitter account, tweeting that his roommate Clementi had asked for some privacy.
“Roommate asked for the room till midnight,” he tweeted on Sept. 19. “I went into Molly’s room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay.”

Ravi is an idiot. Can’t imagine the pain of what the family is going through with this information along with his death. I hope Ravi gets what he deserves... just sad.


6 posted on 09/29/2010 11:26:36 AM PDT by oust the louse (When you subsidize poverty and failure, you get more of both.)
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To: Frantzie

Wiretapping


7 posted on 09/29/2010 11:26:45 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Frantzie
This may become the next "Matthew Shepard" propaganda story.

The only thing that may prevent this is that the guy who was taped with his boyfriend was white, while the tapers were an Indian man and an Asian woman.

He committed suicide presumably because he did not want his family to know about his proclivities.

8 posted on 09/29/2010 11:26:56 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

And why wouldn’t he want his family to know?

Because he knew in his heart it was wrong.


9 posted on 09/29/2010 11:28:05 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Frantzie

As I guessed, it wasn’t *hetro* sex.


10 posted on 09/29/2010 11:29:43 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: TSgt
And why wouldn’t he want his family to know? Because he knew in his heart it was wrong.

Wow.... What a stupid comment.

11 posted on 09/29/2010 11:30:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Frantzie
Sad event.

But I have to say, for decades the Left has been pushing for normalization of homosexuality. TV, movies, music -- homosexuals are everywhere! They are loved! They are accepted! They are rich! Schools have bully programs aimed mostly at protecting young homosexuals. We are told not to use the "hateful" phrase "that's so gay". It's just a great big lovefest for these people.

And, with all of that, this man felt such excruciating shame upon being outed that he ended up killing himself.

Perhaps he understood that his lifestyle was an abomination.

12 posted on 09/29/2010 11:31:03 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: TSgt

Yeah. So what’s your point?


13 posted on 09/29/2010 11:31:42 AM PDT by workerbee (FAIL, BABY, FAIL!)
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To: TexasCajun

On reading the article, yes it was.


14 posted on 09/29/2010 11:31:59 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Frantzie

I don’t know, it seems his reaction was a little extreme. Certainly these 2 committed a crime and should be punished, but they should not be held responsible for someone else’s extreme reaction that couldn’t be reasonably foreseen.


15 posted on 09/29/2010 11:32:29 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: ClearCase_guy
Perhaps he understood that his lifestyle was an abomination.

That and TV is not reality.

16 posted on 09/29/2010 11:33:02 AM PDT by fml
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To: Truthsearcher

Perhaps, but the insinuations being made here are loathsome.


17 posted on 09/29/2010 11:33:49 AM PDT by workerbee (FAIL, BABY, FAIL!)
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To: Frantzie

They aren’t responsible for his death.


18 posted on 09/29/2010 11:35:49 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: r9etb

Why is that a stupid comment?


19 posted on 09/29/2010 11:35:57 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Vinnie
I had read an earlier story and it didn't mention it.

...should have read this one before posting.

20 posted on 09/29/2010 11:37:06 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Frantzie

“The young man killed himself. I hope these two get charged with involuntary manslaughter. They should never be allowed on any U.S. campus or be allowed to enroll in any U.S. university.”

Regardless of what the legal system does with these two students, they have created their own hell for themselves.
It will torture their insides for the rest of their days, and only get worse as they mature.


21 posted on 09/29/2010 11:37:38 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: oust the louse

As long as he was not a pedophile with a child or doing something illegal - I do not care. If he is gay, I could care less. I do not condone his lifestyle but this is a young person. The two that recorded him then put it on the web are evil. The kid is dead now. I hope them go to jail for 10 years.

Really sad. The media would be all over it if it was a Christian school and these two evil little creeps where Christians who “outed” this poor kid.

Ravi needs to do some hard time in NJ’s general prison population for about 15 years. Ditto for Ling Wei Ding Dong. Third world s**ts.


22 posted on 09/29/2010 11:38:11 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Frantzie

It’s not unusual for FReepers not to read the article; just the excerpt.

But it does seem unusual for the one who POSTED the article not to have read it.


23 posted on 09/29/2010 11:38:43 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Or maybe his parents and friends held your view and he couldn’t face them.


24 posted on 09/29/2010 11:40:34 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: wideawake

Ravi and Molly?


25 posted on 09/29/2010 11:41:50 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: TSgt

Yeeah, why wouldn’t he want his family to know? They would have been obliged to accept his choice, affirm their love for him, actually feel proud of him being a homosexual.


26 posted on 09/29/2010 11:43:12 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: r9etb; TSgt
And why wouldn’t he want his family to know? Because he knew in his heart it was wrong.

Wow.... What a stupid comment

Stating the obvious is often merely a way to express sadness.

It is no more stupid here than saying the sky sure is blue today (as if it might be green or red) is stupid.

28 posted on 09/29/2010 11:45:11 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Frantzie

Why. They did not kill him. He killed himSELF. Was it wrong to video and post? Probably. A crime? Misdemeanor, MAYBE, and probably not even that.


29 posted on 09/29/2010 11:45:58 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Hail Mary Full of Grace, The Lord Is With Thee...)
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To: Frantzie

I can imagine how this went down. New freshman at school. Dude’s “weird” roommate boots him out of his room and he’s pissed off about it. He probably got drunk and said “Har har let’s check out my webcam” and sees this guy in flagrante delecto with another guy which I’m sure his pals found hilarious. Then he and his little gf get all excited and go the extra step of turning it into their own little impromptu reality show using ustream or a simlar service. Then the victim takes it hard and jumps off the GW bridge. Sounds like an episode of Law & Order: SVU.


30 posted on 09/29/2010 11:46:31 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: ichabod1
Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei.
31 posted on 09/29/2010 11:46:52 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah; DJ MacWoW

ping


32 posted on 09/29/2010 11:47:07 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: TSgt
The guy killed himself over a very sad incident, and you're busy talking about how he should have known better than to be a homosexual.

Perhaps you should dial back on the self-righteousness.

33 posted on 09/29/2010 11:47:15 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: r9etb

I’m sickened by the comments made by people on here. Nothing like rubbing salt in the wounds of the loved ones he leaves behind.


34 posted on 09/29/2010 11:52:09 AM PDT by Trust but Verify (I can see November from my house!)
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To: r9etb

Mr. Orbitologist, perhaps the high Colorado altitudes have resulted in temporary hypoxia and you are unable to digest my point.

It’s really simple. The guy didn’t kill himself over a sad incident. He killed himself because he knew his acts were immoral and would bring shame on him and his family. That is why he killed himself.

No self-righteousness here, just a lucid observation.


35 posted on 09/29/2010 11:52:56 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: r9etb
I don't think anyone here is being egregiously self-righteous. We're just pointing out a truth that society has been trying to deny for a long time.

Homosexuality used to be classed as a mental illness. That's what it is, but we're not supposed to say so. Homosexuals have elevated risks of domestic violence, substance abuse, and suicide. These are not happy individuals. And they can be cured -- but only if there is an acknowledgment that there is a problem that deserves a cure.

Society does a huge disservice to tell mentally ill people that they are just fine. Our culture encourages these people to wallow in their mental illness and feel proud of their infirmity.

It is far more loving to gently communicate the fact that homosexuals are living a mistake and they ought to try to get better.

36 posted on 09/29/2010 11:53:26 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: MrEdd; wagglebee

This is (at least) the third thread on this subject in the last two hours. I think wagglebee has already pinged out on one of the other threads.

But I hope he can come over here to this thread with some common sense conservative ideals.

The sheer number of liberal pro-queer replies on this thread are sickening me.


37 posted on 09/29/2010 11:53:28 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Frantzie

This was an idiotic thing to do, but I disagree with those calling for homicide charges. If Hotlips Houlihan had killed herself after the radio-mic prank in the film M*A*S*H, no one would consider Radar a murderer.

Anyway, prayers for the young man and his family.


38 posted on 09/29/2010 11:53:48 AM PDT by pogo101
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To: Frantzie
The kid was obviously mentally ill, sad.
39 posted on 09/29/2010 11:54:54 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Trust but Verify

Who is rubbing salt in the wound? It’s an observation of fact.

A + B = C

Event C occurred because of A + B

We deal with facts here not emotion. If you want emotion you might try DU.


40 posted on 09/29/2010 11:55:14 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Responsibility2nd; MrEdd

Yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s been pinged at least once. I know there was a thread about the arrests either yesterday or Monday.


41 posted on 09/29/2010 11:55:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: ichabod1
Was it wrong to video and post? Probably. A crime? Misdemeanor, MAYBE, and probably not even that.

If I installed a hidden camera in your home and posted the conversations and intimate moments online for others to ridicule would you still think that it is only a misdemeanor?

Can I tap your phone lines too and get a slap on the wrist?

42 posted on 09/29/2010 11:57:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask yourself,where does Saudi Arabia fit on a scale of "passive" to "moderate" to "extremist" Islam?)
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To: Callahan

I think you are correct. Thsi is probably waht happened. We will see it on Law and Order. I dumped TV a year ago and will not be going back.

Some people think I support this kid’s lifestyle. I don’t. He was, from what we can tell, a 18 year old freshmen. The two that did this should be hammered by the law. He should not have killed himself but it is really sad.

Can you imagine if it was the (very white and American) Duke LaCrosse team’s camera. The whole team would be lynched from the Geo Washington bridge this afternoon.

Sad story.


43 posted on 09/29/2010 11:57:38 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: r9etb

This thread sounds like a DU parody of a Freeper thread. I love how some are assuming that the two perps here are illegals based on their foreign names. I seem to recall going to college with a few asian girls and indian guys who weren’t illegals. Also any conservative should be dead set against spying on people in their dorm room for no purpose other than laughs and exploitation. This kid probably had plenty of other troubles and this incident pushed him over the edge. Is that so hard to understand?


44 posted on 09/29/2010 11:58:31 AM PDT by Callahan
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To: Responsibility2nd
The sheer number of liberal pro-queer replies on this thread are sickening me.

Agreed, I don't hate gay people and like most, have them in my family. That does NOT preclude me from identifying their wickedness. Forcing me to accept their lifestyle as normal human behavior is a liberal argument.
45 posted on 09/29/2010 11:59:08 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Trust but Verify

I’m sickened by the comments made by people on here. Nothing like rubbing salt in the wounds of the loved ones he leaves behind.

_____________________________

I’m sickened by the comments too. But for the right reasons.

Sickened by those who believe this boy was right.


46 posted on 09/29/2010 11:59:15 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: pissant

“They aren’t responsible for his death.”

They may not be directly responsible for this death, but they are two reprehensible pieces of trash who should be pilloried for being jerks.


47 posted on 09/29/2010 12:00:17 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: TSgt
Mr. Orbitologist, perhaps the high Colorado altitudes have resulted in temporary hypoxia and you are unable to digest my point.

Wow. So you have no point, but you do have an ego and it's bruised. Noted.

It’s really simple.

Indeed it is: you're a self-righteous know-it-all who somehow forgot both his manners and his sense of right and wrong.

You're not the least bit concerned about the poor kid or his family -- not when you've got a "lucid observation" to make.

48 posted on 09/29/2010 12:00:59 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Callahan
This kid probably had plenty of other troubles and this incident pushed him over the edge.

I threw up a little in my mouth when I read that.

Now it's society's fault. What the hell is happening to this forum?
49 posted on 09/29/2010 12:01:20 PM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: pogo101

My only wish is someone would have fragged Hawkeye and ???BJ?

Alan Alda and Mike Farrell were big libs. Farrell an insane one. We have seen something like this when involuntary manslaughter might be possible. If it was the Duke LaCrosse Team or two kids from the Bible Club or Young Republicans they would get the gas chamber.


50 posted on 09/29/2010 12:02:01 PM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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