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McDonald's May Drop Health Plan (but Obama said you could keep your plan!)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703431604575522413101063070.html?KEYWORDS=mcdonald%27s ^

Posted on 09/29/2010 6:55:58 PM PDT by macquire

McDonald's Corp. has warned federal regulators that it could drop its health insurance plan for nearly 30,000 hourly restaurant workers unless regulators waive a new requirement of the U.S. health overhaul.

The move is one of the clearest indications that new rules may disrupt workers' health plans as the law ripples through the real world.

Trade groups representing restaurants and retailers say low-wage employers might halt their coverage if the government doesn't loosen a requirement for "mini-med" plans, which offer limited benefits to some 1.4 million Americans.

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But, but, but President Obama told us all if we like our plans we could keep them!
1 posted on 09/29/2010 6:56:02 PM PDT by macquire
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To: macquire

This is what obozo wants. The 30,000 workers and many others will end up with the obamacare plan. It will cost much less as more workers are added, right?/s


2 posted on 09/29/2010 6:58:57 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: macquire
"ObamaCare! You're gonna like it!" - Andy "the AARPster" Mayberry

Hey America! How's that ObamaCare thing workin' for ya? You're going to find out on April 15th.

3 posted on 09/29/2010 6:59:50 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Josef Stalin - The Father of "Progressive Values"!)
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To: macquire

How’s that McPresidency going for you Barack?


4 posted on 09/29/2010 7:00:06 PM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: macquire

And Obama smiles because he’s looking for a government only system to replace our current private health system.


5 posted on 09/29/2010 7:00:13 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Grblb blabt unt mipt speeb!! Oot piffoo blaboo...)
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To: dynachrome

This is what The Kenyan and his central planners wanted to happen. It’s all by design.


6 posted on 09/29/2010 7:01:33 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: macquire
I work for a logistics trucking company and on the benefits page of our intranet, there are already some major changes coming when the enrollment period hits. I'm fortunate to have full health & dental coverage now, but most of it is going to be limited or disappear altogether.

Why more Americans aren't outraged over this, I don't know. When that bill was being passed back in March, millions of Americans should have stormed the capitol like the French did to the Bastille.

7 posted on 09/29/2010 7:04:07 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: macquire
"Evil Corporation Denies Healthcare In Spite of Kenyan Messiah Pronouncement"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

8 posted on 09/29/2010 7:04:20 PM PDT by The Comedian (Guns, Gold, Food - The guy with the guns ends up with all the gold and food.)
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To: jimbo123

I know that’s what Bambi had in mind, but what is he going to do when the courts knock out his little plan as unconstitutional? What it will end up with is no insurance for anyone. If you want it, you have to buy it yourself.


9 posted on 09/29/2010 7:05:10 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: macquire

Or they can sell hamburgers for $6 each!

GO GALT McD’s!!


10 posted on 09/29/2010 7:07:25 PM PDT by Mr. K (GO! PALADINO FOR GOVERNOR OF NEW YORK!)
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To: macquire

BUMP


11 posted on 09/29/2010 7:10:19 PM PDT by BunnySlippers
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To: McGavin999
If you want it, you have to buy it yourself.

That's the way it always should have been. I think around WWII people started getting covered through their employer as a sort of "wage increase" and it was a mistake that led us to where we are today.

If Obama's plan collapses (and I think it will) we may have a chance to transition to individuals choosing plans from across the country. I'd love to see legislation which opens up additional choices rather than steers us into a rotten single payer plan.

12 posted on 09/29/2010 7:10:39 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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To: McGavin999

Obama hates America and he’s laying waste to as much of America as he can before he’s thrown out of office.


13 posted on 09/29/2010 7:11:01 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Yeah Andy likes it cause he got lots of money to make that ad spot for Obama. I can not stand Obama, anyone who voted for him and any of the liberals in congress. These people are threatinging the America I know and love and grew up in. I dont want to live in a Communist country


14 posted on 09/29/2010 7:12:07 PM PDT by funfan
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To: macquire

The new McDonald’s healthcare plan: Have a Big Mac.


15 posted on 09/29/2010 7:12:57 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: funfan

That makes two of us. I’m too old to go commie now. I’ve been an American all my life.


16 posted on 09/29/2010 7:13:32 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Josef Stalin - The Father of "Progressive Values"!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

No, actually it happend in the late 50’s to early 60’s. It was during the wage freeze (Nixon?). It was the only way the employers could give their employees something extra.


17 posted on 09/29/2010 7:15:04 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Maybe they didn’t know what’s in the bill, or still don’t like me...and you.


18 posted on 09/29/2010 7:15:25 PM PDT by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Your right they are called fringe beneifts and they are added to your compensation package. Starting in 2011 those so called benefits will have to be listed on your W-2 forms
and I am not talking what the liberals are calling “Cadillac Plans” any insurance benifts from your employers you will be taxed on. FUBO and the horse you rode in on
19 posted on 09/29/2010 7:15:48 PM PDT by funfan
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To: ClearCase_guy

It would be great if we could buy our own. I’ve been paying into the “system” for 48 years and I think I’ve put in two claims (and they were minor stuff). Wish I had all that money back now.


20 posted on 09/29/2010 7:17:01 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: McGavin999

Actually, I think that might be a good thing. If we are buying it ourselves, it may affect packages/pricing offered.

As much as I HATE the whole “healthcare reform” crap, I must say that insurance companies haven’t done much to help their cause, and even got into bed with the administration with the promise of all these new subscribers. Now they will find out that you just can’t trust a bunch of liars.


21 posted on 09/29/2010 7:17:05 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: macquire
The move is one of the clearest indications that new rules may disrupt workers' health plans as the law ripples through the real world.

Nancy said we'd find out what's in it after it passed.

22 posted on 09/29/2010 7:19:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: kevslisababy
I agree, I think most insurance companies will be lucky to keep out of bankruptcy. Maybe it will even go back to reasonable prices since, if there is no insurance, there will be no lawsuits for malpractice.

Personally, I think that medical savings accounts with policies for catastrophic events would be the way to go.

23 posted on 09/29/2010 7:19:51 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: funfan
I can not stand Obama, anyone who voted for him and any of the liberals in congress.

Exactly!

24 posted on 09/29/2010 7:19:58 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: ClearCase_guy; McGavin999
"If you want it, you have to buy it yourself."
That's the way it always should have been. I think around WWII people started getting covered through their employer as a sort of "wage increase" and it was a mistake that led us to where we are today.

Quite correct. It was a way around wartime wage controls.

25 posted on 09/29/2010 7:22:00 PM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

More Americans would be outraged if our Republican representatives were getting out there and explaining these things to them. That they’re not, is one reason I’m not holding my breath for repeal. They could ride these events already occurring, as opposed to the lies people were told, all the way to a clean sweep if they wanted to.


26 posted on 09/29/2010 7:23:31 PM PDT by mrsmel
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To: macquire

One wonders what good ole Julio thinks of this move.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TptsP4ryido


27 posted on 09/29/2010 7:23:31 PM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio - US Senate, West FL22nd, Scott/Carroll - FL Gov/LtGov, Miller-AK US Senate)
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To: sionnsar

I thought it was during Nixon’s wage freeze. I can tell you this, when I was 17 my first job was to assist in doing the payroll at a small manufacturing company. Single insurance was $.97 a week and family coverage was $2.54.


28 posted on 09/29/2010 7:25:09 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

When I read and studied about the Declaration Of Independance in School I assure you the word Creator was not left out like Obama seems to do not once but twice he is a fraud and an evil one at that. It is a sad state of affairs to be sure :(


29 posted on 09/29/2010 7:26:35 PM PDT by funfan
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To: McGavin999; ClearCase_guy
WWII ~ they had extensive and very tough wage and price controls back then. To compete for skilled workers (then in short supply due to the needs of the military for soldiers), the companies offered free medical care.

Then, or later, this was made a tax exempt benefit.

Why you are thinking of Nixon is he proposed what amounted to a Socialized European Medical System and he was handed his head.

That was one of the reasons he found out he didn't have any friends among Republicans when the Democrats went after him.

The next several Presidents took the lesson to heart ~ then we get to Obama. He thinks he and Nixon are different. All I can say is Nixon was a smart guy. Obama isn't.

30 posted on 09/29/2010 7:31:21 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: McGavin999

You bring up an excellent point. Without the deep pockets of insurance companies, where will the cash cow be located for all the lawyers to drain?


31 posted on 09/29/2010 7:35:58 PM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: McGavin999

The first warehouse job I had cost $2.00 a week for family coverage and this was a non-union job from 1984-1997.

Today, at a different company, I pay $29.73 a week for my wife and I. Kids would be extra per child. Probably will cancel after this year. My wife has coverage and both will go up so much it doesn’t pay to have both.


32 posted on 09/29/2010 7:43:05 PM PDT by packrat35 (I got your tag line..)
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To: macquire

Dumbo has told a lot of lies over the years. This is just one in a long list of lies.


33 posted on 09/29/2010 7:45:03 PM PDT by deepthought (Keep working, dumbo needs the money!!)
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To: packrat35

And I pay $75.00 a week for single coverage. The company only picks up $90.00 a month.


34 posted on 09/29/2010 7:55:53 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: muawiyah

But didn’t Nixon put in wage and price controls?


35 posted on 09/29/2010 7:57:47 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: McGavin999
Yeah, but he reminded us of how they didn't work back during WWII either.

This had no impact on health care arrangements ~ the laws were already in place by the 1960s.

The question concerned when the employer provided health care system started, and the answer (in the USA) is "during WWII".

36 posted on 09/29/2010 8:05:28 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: muawiyah

Hmmm, $2.00 for family coverage in the 60’s and now it’s more like $125.00.


37 posted on 09/29/2010 8:47:26 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: McGavin999
I paid $1.25 per bi-weekly pay period in 1966 for single coverage.

$1.25.

What's happened since that time is very simple ~ medicine has advanced and they can cure stuff you used to die from. That costs something.

38 posted on 09/29/2010 8:51:15 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: macquire

http://www.cafepress.com/+health_care_bumper_sticker,393487702

39 posted on 09/29/2010 9:15:08 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: macquire

Would you like fries with that Hope and Change?


40 posted on 09/29/2010 10:03:14 PM PDT by scottinoc
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To: dynachrome
This is what obozo wants.

Methinks it is also what McDonald's wants.

41 posted on 09/29/2010 10:10:39 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Managing "The Environment" is the power to control the entire economy.)
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To: Carry_Okie

We do need to find a way to decouple health care from employment, it’s one reason why so many people in their late 40s, and 50s have a hard time finding work, companies don’t want to bear the health insurance costs that come with older workers.


42 posted on 09/29/2010 10:12:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers - AL West Champions)
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To: muawiyah

Yes and attornys have made billions in mal practice suits. Without that medical costs may have only doubled instead of going nuclear.


43 posted on 09/29/2010 10:14:51 PM PDT by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: dfwgator
We do need to find a way to decouple health care from employment, it’s one reason why so many people in their late 40s, and 50s have a hard time finding work, companies don’t want to bear the health insurance costs that come with older workers.

Agreed. It should never have been allowed in the first place.

Why employers got a write-off while private parties and the self-employed did not is one of those "equal protection before the law" goodies I've never really understood. If corporations are "persons" they can live like the rest of us.

44 posted on 09/29/2010 10:16:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Managing "The Environment" is the power to control the entire economy.)
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To: macquire

If Obama and the other Marxist Liberals get their way, they will eventually force McDonald’s out of business completely by over-taxing their “unhealthy” food.


45 posted on 09/29/2010 10:36:29 PM PDT by Azzurri
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To: dynachrome

What he wants is to see the Insurance companies go down...this administration will immediately pass regulations on them so they cannot raise their premiums yet require them to fullfill the conditions of this healthbill and their new regulations.... Important to remember the banking industry is tied into the Insurance Companies...... so the handwriting on the wall isn’t hard to figure out. The banks know what is up and are protecting their own interests...they see what’s coming from this Administration.


46 posted on 09/29/2010 10:52:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: macquire

I promise to only eat at McDonalds from now on!

I love you Ronald. Stick a fork in 0bammy, he’s done!


47 posted on 09/29/2010 11:13:23 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Stimulus. 0bamaCare. Cap and Tax. 9/11 Victory Mosque. TARP. Amnesty. Summer of Recovery.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Methinks it is also what McDonald's wants.
If so, then why did they wait all these years to do so?

I worked for McDonald's (on the corporate side) for almost all of the last decade, and based on everything I ever saw there, they are honest and decent, and really do care about their employees.

48 posted on 09/30/2010 12:18:49 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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...based on everything I ever saw there, they are honest and decent, and really do care about their employees.

There is a limit to anything. What with all the demands that private insurers pay for illegals and indigents in their hospital bills, eventually the costs get out of hand. Once uncle sugar offers a way out without hurting their people, what do you think they're going to do?

49 posted on 09/30/2010 12:31:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Managing "The Environment" is the power to control the entire economy.)
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To: Carry_Okie
There is a limit to anything
Agreed.

I don't believe that they were just waiting for the chance to "screw" their employees. But they aren't going to ruin the company to accommodate Obama and the Dems fantasy about healthcare, either.

50 posted on 09/30/2010 12:48:56 AM PDT by Johnny B.
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