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Surprise! 1/3 of blacks back tea-party movement
WND ^ | SEPTEMBER 27, 2010 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 09/29/2010 10:15:58 PM PDT by RobinMasters

A new poll released this week soundly contradicts critics' claims that the tea-party movement is "fringe," "white" and "racist."

PJTV's Tea Party Tracking Poll has monitored nationwide sentiments toward the tea party on a weekly basis since Aug. 2. The poll's most recent reports reveal the following results:

The number of people who identify as "members" of the tea party has more than tripled over the last month alone, up to 21 percent of likely voters;

Fifty-five percent of those surveyed said they support the tea parties based on the movement's positions on the issues;

Among the likely voters who are black, 32 percent said they would vote for a candidate backed by the tea parties. The last statistic caught the attention of PJTV.

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1 posted on 09/29/2010 10:16:01 PM PDT by RobinMasters
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To: RobinMasters

Now that would be a surprise. They need to toss off the shackles of the socialist plantation.


2 posted on 09/29/2010 10:17:50 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

This doesn’t surprise me at all. I work in Baltimore City and see a real change in attitudes and mind set.


3 posted on 09/29/2010 10:23:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (Throw Them Out! Forward With Confidence!)
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To: RobinMasters

Except I’ll believe it when that community doesn’t vote 90+% dem.


4 posted on 09/29/2010 10:24:01 PM PDT by correctthought ("Communism is a temporary setback, on the road to freedom" - Liberty Prime)
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To: RobinMasters

Not a surprise really to anyone who has discussed politics to members of their congregation who are black.


5 posted on 09/29/2010 10:24:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Current count of friends who have abandoned Obama: 11)
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To: pissant

“Now that would be a surprise. They need to toss off the shackles of the socialist plantation.”

This is one of the things the GOP can never, ever seem to capitalize on. Many blacks, and Latins for that matter, are SOCIAL conservative. They are not fiscal conservatives for various reasons, and appeals to them are usually made on self interested fiscal grounds.

This number really does not surprise me, although I would have thought the support would be a little less around 1:4 rather than 1:3.


6 posted on 09/29/2010 10:24:57 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
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To: RobinMasters

Hoo boy...this is good.

If I was up for the fireworks, I’d email this article to all of my liberal family members. They all think I’ve been kidnapped and brainwashed by the ‘evil’ conservatives, and forced to march in the ‘racist’ Tea Party rallies .. LOL


7 posted on 09/29/2010 10:25:28 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobinMasters

If the idiots at the GOP don’t start pandering to them and patronizing them offering handouts and same old same old and instead, starts to stress a return to Christian values, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a lot more.


8 posted on 09/29/2010 10:27:14 PM PDT by jessduntno (9/24/10, FBI raids home of appropriately named AAAN leader Hatem Abudayyeh, a friend of Obama.)
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To: RobinMasters

It’s, still, a profound shame that the majority of black voters (as well as the majority of all other minority voters) continue to be “stuck on socialism”, after many decades.


9 posted on 09/29/2010 10:28:12 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: jessduntno
If the idiots at the GOP don’t start pandering to them and patronizing them offering handouts and same old same old

If only.

10 posted on 09/29/2010 10:43:17 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: RobinMasters; onyx; maggief; MinuteGal; STARWISE; penelopesire; Syncro; Lauren BaRecall; Liz

Wonder how this will influence November election.

IIRC there is a large number of AA candidates running for congress on the GOP ticket.


11 posted on 09/29/2010 10:52:17 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Windflier

Just email it...One never knows when a tiny spark lights the fire or gives one of them permission to join you...and after one joins the rest will follow.


12 posted on 09/29/2010 10:55:33 PM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: RobinMasters

In a couple of weeks we will see what percentage of blacks vote against obambi. Any group of people who supports a leader who advocate the killing of their babies is not worth including in any tent.


13 posted on 09/29/2010 10:59:17 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

‘...[T]he majority of black voters (as well as the majority of all other minority voters) continue to be “stuck on socialism”...’

Few Asians or immigrant Indians buy into it.


14 posted on 09/29/2010 11:03:00 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
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To: TomasUSMC

They won’t vote against him. They will stay home. The ones who do go to the poll will be as reliably Democrat as always. There will be fewer who bother to vote is all.


15 posted on 09/29/2010 11:04:36 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
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To: hoosiermama

You’re right. We have a number of excellent conservative black Republican candidates and all deserve to win.

Sarah Palin has endorsed most, if not all of them, and not because of their race, but because they’re great candidates.

Lt Col. Adam West of Florida is one and Tim Scott of South Carolina is another.


16 posted on 09/29/2010 11:12:30 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: RobinMasters
The statistic means nothing in an of itself. First, likely voters in this election cycle are going to be older, more white, and more conservative than they usually are in mid-term elections, so blacks planning to vote will be more conservative than the cohort who voted for 0bama in 2008.

Second, the question does not track to any specific Tea Party candidates, which would be more meaningful. It's like the question: would you vote for a black person for President? Why yes, of course I would, in principle. I would not vote for the current (half-black) President, or for any black person currently in Congress.

Frank Luntz has been claiming for about -- oh, all of his career -- that a black Republican ascendancy based on social issues is just around the corner. It's baloney. The 10-12% of blacks who are conservative are very conservative. The 90% who aren't are foaming at the mouth leftists. They are never coming over to the side of goodness and light.

17 posted on 09/29/2010 11:42:07 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: RobinMasters

After telling pollsters all this, 95% of them will go into the phone booth and pull the lever for Democrats.

Remember all those people in Harlem saying they approved of Obama’s choice of Sarah Palin as his running mate? Etc.


18 posted on 09/30/2010 12:01:56 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: hoosiermama
Just email it...One never knows when a tiny spark lights the fire or gives one of them permission to join you...and after one joins the rest will follow.

That's some strong encouragement. Thanks. It's hard to resist your logic, although I still feel hesitant to open a can of worms that I'm not in the mood to deal with.

My family members are so solidly liberal, that I fear they'd take it the wrong way - in other words, they'd view it as a make-wrong, not as an invitation to broaden their minds and hearts.

I kind of feel as though they'd need to hear this from someone other than me, to accept it.

19 posted on 09/30/2010 12:06:43 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobinMasters
I can tell you that after attending a couple tea party events, I was surprised by the people with Obama stickers on their cars and people of color, Black and Hispanics that were in attendance.

People are just sick and tired of the status quo. This goes for Democrats and Republicans!

We want change, real change, not the crap Obama spouted off.

20 posted on 09/30/2010 12:23:58 AM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents, dead people, dogs, felons)
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To: Vicki
America has simply switched stations and tuned out The Obama Channel, probably for good.

It is going to be a long two years, but a better two years.

21 posted on 09/30/2010 12:36:38 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (How many of us can get our "training wheels" in the form of being awarded 4-star General status?)
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To: RobinMasters

Don’t tell the racist political slave masters they might panic upon hearing that their race based political slaves are in rebellion.

Careful the Democrats might call out the old slave patrols to crucify and/or terrify blacks that dare think and act out the contents of their hearts rather then what someone else tells em about the color of their skin.


22 posted on 09/30/2010 1:49:25 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: RobinMasters

You know, folks American Blacks have been changing little by little. A major reason for this is that a huge amount of American Blacks, mainly males are marrying, or living with women not of their race, White, Hispanic Asian, etc. That action alone has awakened many Blacks to the “real” world of assimilation, which is real the true way to freedom, education and opportunity. Actually, Obama, the NAACP and CBC are fastly becoming outdated and ineffective as they become more and more radical in trying to forge America and Blacks into “third world” nation status. We shall see what progress has made come November 2, 2010!!! If American Black voters have both smarts and common sense, they will throw Obama and his Democrat Party under the bus for failing them so badly across the board!!!


23 posted on 09/30/2010 2:12:21 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Psalm 144

...”They won’t vote against him. They will stay home. The ones who do go to the poll will be as reliably Democrat as always. There will be fewer who bother to vote is all”...

A crucial factor, also, is fear of violence against them from their own communities if it is learned that they did not vote the way the NAACP told them. They are under a kind of dictatorship with, perhaps, real threats to deal with. I felt so sorry for Alveda King, Martin Luther King Jr.’s niece as she appeared with Beck on 8-28. She spoke of threats against her for her decision to stand on her own principles. Just imagine if your Uncle and your Father have been murdered, but, yet you go out and continue the message under the same threats. She is now one of the women I really admire in our nation. God bless her! I hope she has sold a million books!


24 posted on 09/30/2010 2:21:19 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

You are so right! The other cause for open-mindedness is education. Many black folks are achieving the American dream and they want the same choice for their children. Also, they and their families have assimilated into residential communities all over the nation, to become friends and neighbors with whites. Many personal and emotional loyalties develope when this happens. When people go out into the work place, with an education, to make a living and then, are fortunate enough to make enough money to pay exorbitant taxes, the scales fall off the eyes and the truth becomes clear. Every time I see another AA running for office as a conservative, I rejoice, for I perceive the price these people pay to stand on their own principles. It is far greater than you or I would have to pay in this (for them) politically oppressive environment.


25 posted on 09/30/2010 2:29:10 AM PDT by jazzlite (esat)
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To: Psalm 144
Few Asians or immigrant Indians buy into it.

That's because they are too busy taking part in U.S. capitalism than sucking it dry via social programs.

How many stories are there of folks coming to this country with nothing and in a few years owning and operating a thriving business?
26 posted on 09/30/2010 4:24:01 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: Windflier
Understand...Have you ever read a letter written by a female AA officer with the last name of Rice? IIRC it's Fran. She lists the reasons (history) of why she is a Republican....At one time it was saved to my computer, but that one died.

Just leave material on the coffee table when they visit. They will read it.

Family is difficult.

27 posted on 09/30/2010 4:56:37 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: RobinMasters

More of the myth of the Black conservative - it DON’T exist!


28 posted on 09/30/2010 5:07:25 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: jazzlite

In my heart of hearts, I pray that November will clearly demonstrate that significant movement to truly being free will be evident among American Black voters!!! POTUS Obama, the Democrat party, the NAACP, the CBC have done nothing for them, other then keeping them in continuing economic slavery, chained to the botttom of the economic, education and opportunity totem pole!!!


29 posted on 09/30/2010 6:28:22 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: RobinMasters

If the election of Barack Obama does one positive thing it would be to show millions of minorities who’ve waited their whole lives for the messiah to show up that the only person who will make a difference in their lives stares back at them when they look in the mirror.


30 posted on 09/30/2010 8:10:31 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: RobinMasters

How do they square this with their continued support of Obama who is the antithesis of everything the Tea Party stands for?


31 posted on 09/30/2010 8:14:25 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: hoosiermama
Have you ever read a letter written by a female AA officer with the last name of Rice?

Yes, I know the letter you're referring to. Mrs. Rice wrote that letter right after Obama was elected, and really took blacks to task for falling into the mass hysteria of Obamamania.

Family is difficult.

Especially when they've been mainlining the lib/Dem Kool-Aid for half a century.

32 posted on 09/30/2010 9:40:44 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

If you run across a copy of it...I’m really sorry I didn’t save it and wish I had.

If one person in the family changes how they react to the family dynamics others have no choice but to change....Try joking with them or wearing a “Free at Last” T shirt. ;~)


33 posted on 09/30/2010 9:46:17 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: hoosiermama

Thanks for the ping. Very interesting article and posts.


34 posted on 09/30/2010 7:23:08 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Paladino is a rock star!)
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To: hoosiermama
Try joking with them or wearing a “Free at Last” T shirt. ;~)

LOL! Now, that's funny - and very appropriate! I like it.

Truth is, I don't really have any sort of pull with my siblings anymore. Nearly all of us are in our 50s now, and are more or less hardened into our basic life philosophies.

Besides, they're out on the left coast, and I'm now in Texas. I might hear from one or two of them once a year, if that. I wish them the best and hope they find their own way off the plantation. Lord knows I've tried to help them, but I'm done having my face chewed off for my efforts.

35 posted on 09/30/2010 7:42:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jmaroneps37
More of the myth of the Black conservative - it DON’T exist!

So, who are Thomas Sowell and Justice Clarence Thomas? Liberal plants???

There are a good number of black conservatives who post regularly on this very site. I'm one.

We may not be a sizable portion of the black community, but I assure you, we do exist.

36 posted on 09/30/2010 7:58:32 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: kalee
How do they square this with their continued support of Obama who is the antithesis of everything the Tea Party stands for?

Blacks who support the Tea Party do NOT support Obama. They're pissed off about the very same things you are.

The two thirds of black Americans who DON'T support the Tea Party are the Obots.

37 posted on 09/30/2010 8:08:25 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: FredZarguna
The 10-12% of blacks who are conservative are very conservative. The 90% who aren't, are foaming at the mouth leftists. They are never coming over to the side of goodness and light.

So, you know my family! LOL

You're right on the mark, my friend, except for the fact that there are black people waking up every day of the week. It's still somewhat below the radar, but it is happening.

38 posted on 09/30/2010 8:20:51 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
So, you know my family! LOL

Unfortunately, it is also my family, although for different demographic reasons: in our case too much education. I think the percentages are about the same, 10-15% of people with postgraduate degrees are very conservative, the rest are barking moon-bats. My Dad (a retired social worker) and I are the only conservatives in a family of seven. So we're slightly beating the odds; but Thanksgiving and Christmas can be interesting some years.

... there are black people waking up every day of the week.

I don't doubt it. I just don't know if the numbers will really make a difference. In the election of 2000, National Review did a study from which they concluded that if Blacks had voted for George Bush in the same percentages they voted for Eisenhower (which was only 30%) John Kerry would not have carried a single state, including Massachusetts. That's really a very shocking fact if you think about it, and it can probably be said of any monolithic voting block as large as the Black Vote, so I'm not blaming Black People for the state of our current predicament. As I've already pointed out, we can just as easily point to the over-educated as culprits. I don't have much hope we can convert the people in my family, so I'll keep faith that you can convert yours.

39 posted on 09/30/2010 8:59:29 PM PDT by FredZarguna ("I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.")
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To: Windflier

All of the polls show very strong support among black voters for Obama, the number have changed only a few % points since the election. He has not lost 25-30 % of his base.


40 posted on 10/01/2010 5:14:48 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: kalee
All of the polls show very strong support among black voters for Obama, the number have changed only a few % points since the election. He has not lost 25-30 % of his base.

In other words, you don't buy the findings in this article, which says that Obama has lost a third of his support among blacks.

Ok.

41 posted on 10/01/2010 6:43:25 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RobinMasters

I so hope that the Black People understand that slavery is bending to lies, such as obamanation’s simply because he is black. That is just stupid “master kowtowing”. They are far more educated and smarter than that!


42 posted on 10/04/2010 8:33:07 PM PDT by bareford101 (Be loud! We have nothing – NOTHING - to apologize for in fighting for our Country!!)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Note: this topic is from September 29, 2010. Thanks RobinMasters.


43 posted on 12/31/2010 7:20:29 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: correctthought

Hmmm.. “come back to the southern plantation and get a free biscuit”

Meanwhile Planned parenthood is an anex extention for the extermination camp program of the government.

They came for the black people’s babies and I said nothing,
The Free people are next, and that was what the noose was for.


44 posted on 12/31/2010 8:04:27 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: pissant

They are realizing that the country that offers them the best opportunities is being hand-delivered to a group that is not particularly friendly to black people; they’re battling them for jobs, political power, etc. and losing.

They see what the Dems have given them: economic dependence, abortion, and the soft bigotry of lowered expectations. The most entitled blacks (like all entitled groups) can see that their goodies are being given to our southern neighbors (who aren’t particularly fond of blacks).


45 posted on 12/31/2010 8:35:33 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I think the impact of abortion is more visible to blacks now (when they didn’t go with the flow, BJ Clinton passed his welfare reform to prod them along). Blacks are losing to Hispanics in urban areas, the workplace, and even in prison. They can see they no longer have the political muscle (numbers) to avoid the ongoing betrayal of American blacks (as well as all Americans) by the Dems.


46 posted on 12/31/2010 8:39:48 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: correctthought

Nominate Herman Cain as the GOP Pres candidate. Then see how the vote breaks down. The more I listen to Mr. Cain, the more I like him. He speaks with so much common sense and clarity that I’m beginning to worry for his safety. He’d be wise to watch his six for the likes of the establishment types with the long knives.


47 posted on 12/31/2010 8:39:58 AM PST by yooling (God only asks for 10%. Uncle Sam wants it all.)
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To: JudgemAll

Planned Parenthood was a vehicle to eliminate “inferior” races; their founder openly advocated that, and Justice Ginsburg was kind enough to confirm that the goals have not changed over the years. Even Jesse Jackson, before being bought & paid for, referred to abortion as genocide against blacks.


48 posted on 12/31/2010 8:41:46 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Psalm 144; wideawake
This is one of the things the GOP can never, ever seem to capitalize on. Many blacks, and Latins for that matter, are SOCIAL conservative. They are not fiscal conservatives for various reasons, and appeals to them are usually made on self interested fiscal grounds.

Exactly!

I'm going to get pounded for this, but social conservatism needs to break free of fiscal conservatism. I'm not saying fiscal conservatism is bad (though I'm definitely much more a social than a fiscal conservative myself), but nowadays everyone has come to accept that social conservatism cannot be had without taking fiscal conservatism along with it. In the old days, even fiscal liberals were social conservatives. I would gladly return to those days.

Unfortunately, Blacks and Hispanics have sold out to social liberals. They have not utilized their tremendous influence to bring liberalism and the Democrat party to moral sanity. In fact, almost all mainstream Black and Hispanic politicians march in lockstep with the moral nihilists.

I for one am sick and tired of hearing the excuse that poor people cannot afford to vote for social conservatives because of they need government assistance. This is a false dichotomy. All decent people, whether fiscal liberals or fiscal conservatives, should be social/moral conservatives.

49 posted on 12/31/2010 8:49:39 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Bo' 'el-Par`oh; ve'amarta 'elayv, koh 'amar HaShem, shallach 'et-`ammi veya`avduni!)
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To: RobinMasters
Sure but they can't say it in public—heck they are still required to say that OJ was innocent and Obama is a good president.

The Left did not invent slavery but they sure perfected slavery of the mind..

50 posted on 12/31/2010 8:52:45 AM PST by Happy Rain
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