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Odds of Life on Nearby Planet '100 Percent,' Astronomer Says
Fox News ^ | 9/30/2010 | Fox News

Posted on 09/30/2010 4:04:03 PM PDT by Dallas59



An Earth-size planet has been spotted orbiting a nearby star at a distance that would makes it not too hot and not too cold -- comfortable enough for life to exist, researchers announced Wednesday.

If confirmed, the exoplanet, named Gliese 581g, would be the first Earth-like world found residing in a star's habitable zone -- a region where a planet's temperature could sustain liquid water on its surface.[Illustration of planet Gliese 581g.]

And the planet's discoverers are optimistic about the prospects for finding life there.

"Personally, given the ubiquity and propensity of life to flourish wherever it can, I would say, my own personal feeling is that the chances of life on this planet are 100 percent," said Steven Vogt, a professor of astronomy and astrophysics at the University of California, Santa Cruz, during a press briefing today.

"I have almost no doubt about it."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: exoplanet; planet; xplanets
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1 posted on 09/30/2010 4:04:06 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Maybe but I’m 100% certain that such assertions are stupid.


2 posted on 09/30/2010 4:05:42 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Dallas59
"The Universe is a very big thing that contains a great number of planets and a great number of beings. It is Everything. What we live in. All around us. The lot. Not nothing. It is quite difficult to actually define what the Universe means, but fortunately the Guide doesn't worry about that and just gives us some useful information to live in it.

Area: The area of the Universe is infinite.

Imports: None. This is a by product of infinity; it is impossible to import things into something that has infinite volume because by definition there is no outside to import things from.

Exports: None, for similar reasons as imports.

Population: None. Although you might see people from time to time, they are most likely products of your imagination. Simple mathematics tells us that the population of the Universe must be zero. Why? Well given that the volume of the universe is infinite there must be an infinite number of worlds. But not all of them are populated; therefore only a finite number are. Any finite number divided by infinity is zero, therefore the average population of the Universe is zero, and so the total population must be zero.

Art: None. Because the function of art is to hold a mirror up to nature there can be no art because the Universe is infinite which means there simply isn't a mirror big enough.

Sex: None. Although in fact there is quite a lot, given the zero population of the Universe there can in fact be no beings to have sex, and therefore no sex happens in the Universe."

— Douglas Adams
3 posted on 09/30/2010 4:07:17 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Am I my half-brother's keeper?)
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To: Dallas59

Wow.

This guy is so confident about what he doesn’t know.

Another example of the lack of judgment in science.

Fishtank, PhD (engineering)


4 posted on 09/30/2010 4:08:25 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Dallas59
Odds of Life on Nearby Planet '100 Percent,' Astronomer Says

Which side of Pelosi's family is it?

5 posted on 09/30/2010 4:08:37 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: cripplecreek

wonder what hugh ross would say?


6 posted on 09/30/2010 4:08:42 PM PDT by ken21 (who runs the gop?)
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To: cripplecreek

It’s much higher than the odds of finding intelligent life on earth, especially if you’re on either U.S. coast.


7 posted on 09/30/2010 4:09:08 PM PDT by Spok (Free Range Republican)
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To: Dallas59
...chances of life on this planet are 100 percent

This "scientist" probably plays the lotto. People bad at math, ping!

8 posted on 09/30/2010 4:09:13 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

No sex? I’m leaving.


9 posted on 09/30/2010 4:09:23 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: cripplecreek

Well I’m a 100% sure its gonna rain fudgesickles today, Mr. Astronomer. What do you think of THAT?


10 posted on 09/30/2010 4:09:49 PM PDT by sadponies
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To: Dallas59
All these years of modern science with the most advanced telescopic and analytical equipment available, and this is the first planet we've ever seen which might support life.

Not unless God puts it there, and that's doubtful.

11 posted on 09/30/2010 4:11:20 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: cripplecreek

>>Maybe but I’m 100% certain that such assertions are stupid.<<

Yep. I would like to ask him if there was always life on earth, even though, from a few light years away it looked as it does now.

Heck, I would not have balked at a 99% claim. But 100%? No wonder conservatives are skeptical of scientists. We know they are like the rest of us. Some even probably kick puppies when nobody is looking.


12 posted on 09/30/2010 4:11:31 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: sadponies

Lol...there is that possibility you know.


13 posted on 09/30/2010 4:11:55 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: Dallas59

Bad logic. Once life gets going it flourishes even in the most inhospitable conditions, but getting it started in the first place is the tough part, and the extremely unlikely part, unless of course, there is some assistance.

I would say its far more likely than not that life ONLY exists on Earth. Of course, if the Aliens show up on October 13 as predicted, I will admit I was wrong, but not cheerfully as these critters very likely mean us severe harm.


14 posted on 09/30/2010 4:11:59 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: cripplecreek; KevinDavis

You are so right, this was absurd statement


15 posted on 09/30/2010 4:13:20 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Dallas59

Send in the robot drones to check it out.


16 posted on 09/30/2010 4:13:39 PM PDT by BillT (If you can not stand behind our military, you might as well stand in front of them!)
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To: Dallas59

The Answer to the Great Question…Of Life, the Universe and Everything…Is…Forty-two.
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
The computer Deep Thought


17 posted on 09/30/2010 4:13:54 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Dallas59

We haven’t been able to find life off the Earth in our own system ....yet.


18 posted on 09/30/2010 4:14:53 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: fishtank

Being warm enough is no evidence of life. Venus and Mars are both in our sun’s “Goldilocks zone” At the edges yes but still within the zone current theory expects life to exist.

There are lots of other questions that would need to be asked before asserting that life is likely there.

Does the planet have a magnetic field or is it blasted with radiation from its own sun and space?
Has the planet existed long enough for life to evolve?
Is the planet being bombarded with asteroids?


19 posted on 09/30/2010 4:15:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Dallas59
It's a Class M planet, Captain, capable of supporting human life. Recommend setting phasers to "fabulous."


20 posted on 09/30/2010 4:15:18 PM PDT by twister881
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To: cripplecreek

>>Maybe but I’m 100% certain that such assertions are stupid.<<

I forgot to mention that I think the comment is absolutely stupid as well, even though he is actually correct. But, seeing as that is my home planet, I would know that. And I also know it is NOT his. He is from this world and has never talked to me about it. Because I am the singular “ambassador” that ensures he does not have the information to make such an absurd assumption.

The red dwarf does offer lovely sunsets, btw.


21 posted on 09/30/2010 4:16:22 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: BillT

You pay for em.


22 posted on 09/30/2010 4:17:20 PM PDT by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: Dallas59; a fool in paradise
the exoplanet, named Gliese 581g

And its residents call themselves the Gliesers.

23 posted on 09/30/2010 4:17:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: RobRoy

So you’re a Glieselian?


24 posted on 09/30/2010 4:18:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

Another factor is that Gliese 581 is a red dwarf star with an estimated mass a third of that of the Sun. It’s light is weak and it’s heat output weak compared to the sun.


25 posted on 09/30/2010 4:18:57 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: fwdude

“Not unless God puts it there, and that’s doubtful.”

You’re speaking for God now?

Thanks, that’s good to know....I’ll bookmark you.


26 posted on 09/30/2010 4:19:12 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ( Give Babs Boxer a pink slip just so we can call her ma'am again I believe she's earned it.")
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To: cripplecreek

Why is this suddenly becoming ‘Nwqa” when no one, absolutely no one, can possibly know if live is sustainable on any other panet unless they’ve been there and done that!


27 posted on 09/30/2010 4:20:21 PM PDT by Paperdoll (Socialism is Suicide!)
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To: Forty-Niner

My source is the Book of Genesis, moron.


28 posted on 09/30/2010 4:20:41 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: cripplecreek

>>So you’re a Glieselian?<<

That’s your word. The word we use is Gloupidotittingsongsand. In English it is pronounced Gus.

Most of the letters are silent.


29 posted on 09/30/2010 4:21:01 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: fwdude

Not unless God puts it there, and that’s doubtful.

Why is that doubtful?


30 posted on 09/30/2010 4:21:04 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: Dallas59

>>It’s light is weak and it’s heat output weak compared to the sun.<<

But our skiing is absolutely out of this world!

Literally, come to think of it. I’ve been here too long...


31 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:18 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: cripplecreek
Glieser:


32 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:18 PM PDT by twister881
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To: Dallas59

Exactly. There are literally hundreds or thousands of questions that would need to be answered before making any assumptions about life there.

I’m gonna go with maybe, maybe not.


33 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Revolting cat!
Gliese is the word. It has groove. It has meaning.
34 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:33 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: fishtank

“Another example of the lack of judgment in science.”

Lack of judgement? I’d argue its not even science as its based on feelings and extrapolated observations.


35 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:56 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Jolla
Not unless God puts it there, and that’s doubtful.

Why is that doubtful?

If you really want to know, I'll share my opinion. But if you're one of those Christianity bashers, forget it.

36 posted on 09/30/2010 4:22:57 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: irishtenor

***No sex? I’m leaving.***

You can’t leave, you’re not here.


37 posted on 09/30/2010 4:23:13 PM PDT by kitkat (OBAMA hates us. Well, maybe a LOT of Kenyans do.)
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To: Dallas59

And I'm 100% certain that all of the woman here look like the one on the left and all of the men look like the guy on the right.

38 posted on 09/30/2010 4:24:04 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (The Obama magic is <strike>fading</strike>gone.)
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To: cripplecreek

‘News”


39 posted on 09/30/2010 4:24:57 PM PDT by Paperdoll (Socialism is Suicide!)
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To: fwdude

No, I am Christian, church every Sunday, even a Christian Cross tatoo, I went to the Vatican for my 50th birthday took mass there on 7/7/7. Do I qualify for an answer?


40 posted on 09/30/2010 4:25:48 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: twister881
Brunnen G

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41 posted on 09/30/2010 4:25:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: RobRoy

LOL! Thanks, I needed that laugh.


42 posted on 09/30/2010 4:29:23 PM PDT by kitkat (OBAMA hates us. Well, maybe a LOT of Kenyans do.)
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To: Dallas59

Assume life can exist on other planets. Considering the age of the universe and the time it would take for life to ‘develop’. What would the chances be this life would find us in the vastness of the universe right now.


43 posted on 09/30/2010 4:32:54 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Dallas59
this new planet is probably called “Earth”, as right now, we are living on Bizzaro World.
44 posted on 09/30/2010 4:33:08 PM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: Dallas59

45 posted on 09/30/2010 4:33:45 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: fwdude

Does the book of Genesis make any specific references as to whether life does, or does not, exist on other planets?


46 posted on 09/30/2010 4:34:41 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: kitkat

No sex and I’m not here!!!
That does it, I AM leaving, now!


47 posted on 09/30/2010 4:34:46 PM PDT by irishtenor (Tag lines, they are not what they used to be...)
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To: fwdude

I just thought your statement was odd, if God put the planet there, why can’t he put life there?


48 posted on 09/30/2010 4:35:34 PM PDT by Jolla
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To: Jolla
Do I qualify for an answer?

Ok, I just didn't want to waste my typing on someone who's already pre-determined to dismiss my answer.

The creation account in the Book of Genesis occurs completely in the context of earth, as far as the creation of life is concerned. No mention is made of other life isolated from this system. Now, the argument might be made that I'm using a negative (lack of mention) to prove something affirmatively. But you'd have to ask what purpose "life" on other planets would serve in the grand scheme.

If you are a Christian, I believe that you have to believe Scripture is the very inspired word of God. If you don't, our discourse breaks down for lack of a agreement on a critical proposition. If you believe in literalism, which I believe is reasonable and ascertainable where the Bible makes this clear (not parables or symbolism), then you can't believe in evolution, at least not macro-evolution, which is exactly what this scientist is drooling over.

For this scientist, the prospect of "life" on other planets is not about primitive one-celled, non-sentient organisms or bacteria, or primordial "soup," but about the prospect of intelligent life, if not now, then inevitably. This, I believe, flies in the face of Scripture. Does the new system of intelligent life need their own "Savior" or "dispositions" independent of the revealed plan of God on earth? Not if the God of Christianity and the Scriptures is really God.

49 posted on 09/30/2010 4:42:19 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Signalman

See my reply in #49.


50 posted on 09/30/2010 4:44:35 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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