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Cookie Shop Accused Of Refusing 'Coming Out Day' Order
theindychannel.com ^ | September 30, 2010 | Joanna Massee

Posted on 10/01/2010 4:39:01 AM PDT by Abathar

INDIANAPOLIS -- A cookie shop at Indianapolis' City Market is being investigated after a university said the business refused to fill an order for a National Coming Out Day celebration.

Heather Browning, a coordinator for social justice education in the Office of Student Involvement at Indiana University Purdue University-Indianapolis, was organizing the Oct. 7 event, aimed at encouraging coming out and discussion of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues.

She told 6News' Joanna Massee that she called Just Cookies to inquire about getting rainbow cookies made for the event.

"When I explained it to him the nature of the celebration, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me," Browning said.

City spokesman Robert Vane said the city will launch an investigation next week to determine if Just Cookies, which has operated inside the City Market since the 1990s, violated Indianapolis' anti-discriminatory ordinance.

"Growing the City Market through offering a better product means little when the people offering a better product can decide who they want to sell to and who they don't," Vane said.

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: bakery; homosexualagenda; indianapolis; justcookies
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I guess I will swing by and pick up a dozen from him while I still can, sounds like he'll be looking for a new place to do business by the time this is over.
1 posted on 10/01/2010 4:39:04 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar
When the story was reported originally, the outraged party had ordered cupcakes, and the store owner refused because they don't sell cupcakes.

Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, and the owner of the bakery is not commenting.
2 posted on 10/01/2010 4:43:26 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Am I my half-brother's keeper?)
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To: Abathar
(earlier post)

You will find the comments enlightening...and fun.

3 posted on 10/01/2010 4:43:38 AM PDT by yoe ("N" is for NO for Progressives in government.)
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To: Abathar

I wonder if it would be ok for him to refuse making cookies for the KKK rally or the Neo Nazi anniversary? Then the headline would read how wonderful he was for taking a stand!!


4 posted on 10/01/2010 4:45:42 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: yoe

I searched cookie, cookies...

I hate duplicate posts because the titles vary so much.


5 posted on 10/01/2010 4:45:42 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

There is a considerable difference in refusing service, and
refusing to produce a special order or product.

Imagine the can of worms from being able to prosecute a
business for not making a product that you demand.


6 posted on 10/01/2010 4:46:13 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Abathar

We need a national “Get back In The Closet” day.

:)


7 posted on 10/01/2010 4:47:36 AM PDT by Canedawg (...still not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Abathar
"When I explained it to him the nature of the celebration, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me," Browning said.

Yeah so? Now you can't refuse to do business with someone? How about I call up the bakery in a black neighborhood and order a few hundred Confederate Flag cookies for Southern Heritage day? How about some pig shaped cookies from the Halal shop down the street?
8 posted on 10/01/2010 4:48:45 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: Abathar

If a black man came into a privately owned bakery and asked for a cake that would celebrate the Black Panther party gunning people down or if a white man wanted a cake for the Ku Klux Klan, the bakery would have every right in the world, I would think, to refuse to sell to them.
Not selling rainbow cookies to a controversial organization was the right of that business. Not because of an individual but because the reason was morally objectionable to the owner of the bakery. What if a woman came in and asked for cookies in the shape of male genitalia? Would the bakery be accused of misogyny because they refused the order on moral grounds? What a sick world we live in.


9 posted on 10/01/2010 4:49:50 AM PDT by sueuprising
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To: Abathar
"When I explained it to him the nature of the celebration, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me," Browning said.

So find a DIFFERENT cookie shop you whining moron. That's what a free market is SUPPOSED to be all about.

And another thing: Why in the world would you want to accept food from someone you KNOW does not like you?

Think: Jesse Jackson working in a restaurant preparing meals for white people].

10 posted on 10/01/2010 4:50:01 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Abathar
"Growing the City Market through offering a better product means little when the people offering a better product can decide who they want to sell to and who they don't," Vane said.

"Freedom for me, but NOT for thee."

11 posted on 10/01/2010 4:51:48 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: panthermom

They’re a good Catholic family, little mom and pop kiosk that bakes cookies. I guarantee if someone came by and wanted swastikas put on their cookies they could tell them to go to hell also.


12 posted on 10/01/2010 4:53:31 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Kozak

“How about some pig shaped cookies from the Halal shop down the street? “

Now that’s just a great idea!


13 posted on 10/01/2010 4:56:36 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: WayneS

“Jesse Jackson working in a restaurant preparing meals for white people”

I like ;-)


14 posted on 10/01/2010 4:57:30 AM PDT by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: WayneS
""Growing the City Market through offering a better product means little when the people offering a better product can decide who they want to sell to and who they don't," Vane said."


15 posted on 10/01/2010 4:58:02 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

Tell the people to make their own cookies. How hard is that? If they want to have rainbows on them, get colored frosting.

This is nothing more than an attempt to publicize their event and create trouble for people who might not wish to be involved in it. As far as I’m concerned, everybody has the right to either be involved or not. The shopkeeper is within his rights to refuse to do business with them. I consider it his version of free speech, but would suggest that he sell them undecorated cookies and tell them to decorate them as they wished. That way, at least he makes some money.


16 posted on 10/01/2010 4:58:02 AM PDT by Marty
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To: Question Liberal Authority
When the story was reported originally, the outraged party had ordered cupcakes, and the store owner refused because they don't sell cupcakes.

Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along...

This incident sounds like a follow-up attack by the homo-nazis to confirm their ridiculous assertion that they are being "discriminated" against. Expect more attacks.

Paging the Alliance Defense Fund!!!

17 posted on 10/01/2010 4:59:40 AM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: Abathar
Here's your damn cookie...


18 posted on 10/01/2010 5:00:14 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I believe in man-made political climate change.)
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To: Abathar
Heather Browning, a coordinator for social justice education

There are those two words again 'social justice', it's always dangerous when you see them together. A better term would be Socialist Education.
19 posted on 10/01/2010 5:03:31 AM PDT by PushinTin (NEVER, argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!)
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To: Abathar

“Coordinator for social justic education”? That sounds mighty Orwellian.


20 posted on 10/01/2010 5:04:10 AM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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To: Abathar
"Growing the City Market through offering a better product means little when the people offering a better product can decide who they want to sell to and who they don't," Vane said.

Well, the customers can decide who they want to buy from and who they don't, isn't that true Mr. Vane?

Besides, as noted earlier up thread it was originally cupcakes that were ordered and the store owner said she told them they didn't do cupcakes.

Take an honest poll, and I'm betting the people in that area would rally 70% for the bakery owners. People are getting sick of this harrassment from gays.

21 posted on 10/01/2010 5:04:47 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Professional Left: Using Your Money to Promote Their Ideology Since the 1930's)
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To: Question Liberal Authority

“Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, “

Exactly, a lying group of pervert advocates trying to force people to accept their beliefs. But you have no right to your own beliefs. And the news media carries their water for them.


22 posted on 10/01/2010 5:05:46 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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>>> When the story was reported originally, the outraged party had ordered cupcakes, and the store owner refused because they don't sell cupcakes. Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, and the owner of the bakery is not commenting.

And if you read the original reports further, the proprietor FIRST said they don't make cupcakes, THEN said the order was refused because they lacked the necessary supplies, and LATER said they refused the order because he had two daughters and feared this would be a bad influence. Three versions to choose from. Of all possible reasons to cripple your own livelihood, frosting on some little cakes has to be one of the most foolish.

 

Seriously, does this turn you toward the dark side ? And what sort of person can you imagine it would.

23 posted on 10/01/2010 5:06:30 AM PDT by tlb
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To: Question Liberal Authority
"Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, and the owner of the bakery is not commenting."

The owners have been adivsed not to comment further because the media is clearly on a pro-homosexual jihad and a seeking to use this incident to crucify them. They have misrepresented their statements and nothing good can come from commenting. They are in touch with the Alliance Defense Fund and that's who should be doing the talking. Please keep these good Christian people in your prayers. And by the way, they are a cookie shop not a bakery.

24 posted on 10/01/2010 5:06:38 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Abathar

I am sick to death of these stories. It has become out of control. Cookies and cupcakes are now a discrimination issue?? This poor man is now going to have to waste his time and likely money over this nonsense!!!

Either call another freaking bakery or bake your own!!!


25 posted on 10/01/2010 5:06:45 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: tlb
"And if you read the original reports further, the proprietor FIRST said they don't make cupcakes, THEN said the order was refused because they lacked the necessary supplies"

These points are not mutually exclusive. In fact the second follows naturally from the first. They are being vilified becasue of their religion. Sacrificed on the alter of PC correctness gone amok. Beware - all of us Christians are next.

26 posted on 10/01/2010 5:09:32 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Question Liberal Authority

http://www.examiner.com/tea-party-in-indianapolis/just-cookies-not-cupcakes

Just Cookies, Not Cupcakes


27 posted on 10/01/2010 5:09:56 AM PDT by EBH (We have lost our heritage of "making money.")
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To: panthermom
I am sick to death of these stories. It has become out of control.

The whole point is to wear people down. Make them so tired of dealing with this that they will give ANYTHING to get rid of it. Then demand your whole agenda. It's the way we are getting "gay marriage" in America.

28 posted on 10/01/2010 5:28:48 AM PDT by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: Abathar

Obama and company will soon be loading Christians into cattle cars for a trip to the re-education camp.


29 posted on 10/01/2010 5:32:32 AM PDT by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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To: tlb
the proprietor FIRST said they don't make cupcakes, THEN said the order was refused because they lacked the necessary supplies, and LATER said they refused the order because he had two daughters and feared this would be a bad influence. Three versions to choose from

They asked three people and got three answers. If they had gotten three answers from the same person or if the three people gave exactly the same response I would be more concerned.

What it sounds like to me is The special order was legitimately refused and then a few days later The orderer started thinking about it and decided they had been brutally offended and started lawyer shopping. The bakery personnel were speculating about what happened to a reporter.

Just the drive bys trying to stir things up again

30 posted on 10/01/2010 5:37:54 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: Abathar

“We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”


31 posted on 10/01/2010 5:42:02 AM PDT by manic4organic (Obama shot hoops, America lost troops.)
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So, in other words, you favor government coercion to force people to act against their moral principles or lose their livelihood.

Nothing remotely conservative about that. Nothing authentically "progressive" about it, either. It's just plain old fascism.

The government has no business telling anyone they have to express a particular moral, social, religious, or any other viewpoint or risk losing their business, their liberty, or their life.

If somebody opened a bakery that only baked cakes for "gay marriages" [sic], would you like the government to force them to bake cakes for straight weddings as well? Same principle.

32 posted on 10/01/2010 5:46:07 AM PDT by Campion
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To: madprof98
The whole point is to wear people down. Make them so tired of dealing with this that they will give ANYTHING to get rid of it. Then demand your whole agenda. It's the way we are getting "gay marriage" in America.

I think Thomas Sowell said it best: "The problem with splitting the difference between opposing sides, as many negotiators are prone to do— whether these negotiators are marriage counselors, labor arbitrators or the United Nations— is that this gives an advantage to the side with the most unreasonable demands, and therefore promotes more unreasonable demands in the future."

33 posted on 10/01/2010 5:48:48 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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What kind of an idiot calls a business called Just Cookies and orders cupcakes? and then complains when they are told the business makes Just Cookies??


34 posted on 10/01/2010 5:56:01 AM PDT by JosephZ
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To: Abathar

There is great wisdom in tact. To decide to not sell something is fine. But to sneer at someone while doing so is not—and it doesn’t matter what the reason.

To do so is done not to reject, but to offend. It makes it personal.

Use the ginger (redhead) rule, to tell if something is tactful or not.

“When I explained it to him that I was a redhead, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me.”

If he did this to a ginger, would the ginger be offended? If so, then it is probably tactless.


35 posted on 10/01/2010 5:57:43 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: WayneS

“So find a DIFFERENT cookie shop you whining moron. That’s what a free market is SUPPOSED to be all about.”

No, no, that wouldn’t accomplish their agenda which is to make people accept their way of thinking and behaving as normal and worthy of celebrating. Shame, shame on the cookie man for not coming around to their way of thinking and becoming part of the collective group think.

Makes me think of the “Twilight Zone” or “Outer Limits” episode when the young woman is waiting for surgery to make her look like the everyone else, who it turns out all look like pigs.


36 posted on 10/01/2010 6:01:52 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: stinkerpot65

I don’t think so, in fact we are about a gnat’s butt away from the exact opposite IMHO.


37 posted on 10/01/2010 6:05:11 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

You don’t have to apologize. The posting police are as unrelenting as liberalism. The FR search engine is limited.


38 posted on 10/01/2010 6:05:46 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (Stimulus ~ Response)
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To: PushinTin

“social justice education/social/Socialist Education”

aka: indoctrination and or mind control


39 posted on 10/01/2010 6:06:49 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: Question Liberal Authority
When the story was reported originally, the outraged party had ordered cupcakes, and the store owner refused because they don't sell cupcakes. Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, and the owner of the bakery is not commenting.

The "outraged party" apparently did want cupcakes all along, judging from its subsequent decision to order, um, rainbow-themed cupcakes from another Indianapolis bakery, the very aptly named "Flying Cupcake."

http://www.indy.com/posts/city-market-vendor-could-lose-lease-for-turning-away-gays

40 posted on 10/01/2010 6:09:30 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Question Liberal Authority

I think, for a “coming out day” celebration, fudge would be more appropriate than cupcakes or cookies.


41 posted on 10/01/2010 6:12:39 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: tlb

Foolish or not, shouldn’t he have the freedom to decide whether or not to cripple his own livelihood?


42 posted on 10/01/2010 6:15:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: Canedawg

The “love that dare not speak its name” won’t shut up. Need to have a “Sit down, shut up, and leave our kids alone” day.


43 posted on 10/01/2010 6:16:44 AM PDT by Little Ray (nO)
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To: Abathar

Beware: The Feds must have Mrs. Shield’s cookie recipe!


44 posted on 10/01/2010 8:35:29 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: tlb

I see you’re still posting with you head in the sand.


45 posted on 10/01/2010 8:41:20 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years)
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To: madprof98

It is not wearing me down, it is making me angry! I am not to the point of “Oh, whatever” I am to the point of telling them to Shut up and quit whining!


46 posted on 10/01/2010 9:26:40 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: tlb

47 posted on 10/01/2010 9:49:09 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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To: tlb
Three versions to choose from. Of all possible reasons to cripple your own livelihood, frosting on some little cakes has to be one of the most foolish.

No one should have to lie to maintain basic freedoms in this nation.

It's not a free nation if the government is forcing someone to bake cupcakes or produce anything else that has a message a citizens doesn't want to endorse.

It's outrageous that anyone would think otherwise.

48 posted on 10/01/2010 1:11:20 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Abathar
Who, who does not want to wear the ribbon!!!
Who, who does not want to wear the ribbon?!
49 posted on 10/02/2010 3:00:54 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: tlb
We are mostly hearing the side of the homo-leftists in this outrageous story, so it's no wonder that it's constantly morphing to suit their agenda - leftists routinely lie, like the Islamists, and continue to change the lie to further their cause.

No, "rainbow" cupcakes are harmless. It's the motive and their use that can result in deleterious results. The owners didn't want to "sponsor" this endorsement of perversion, which is what it is. They absolutely have that right to refuse.

50 posted on 10/02/2010 3:05:41 PM PDT by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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