Skip to comments.Cookie Shop Accused Of Refusing 'Coming Out Day' Order
Posted on 10/01/2010 4:39:01 AM PDT by Abathar
INDIANAPOLIS -- A cookie shop at Indianapolis' City Market is being investigated after a university said the business refused to fill an order for a National Coming Out Day celebration.
Heather Browning, a coordinator for social justice education in the Office of Student Involvement at Indiana University Purdue University-Indianapolis, was organizing the Oct. 7 event, aimed at encouraging coming out and discussion of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender issues.
She told 6News' Joanna Massee that she called Just Cookies to inquire about getting rainbow cookies made for the event.
"When I explained it to him the nature of the celebration, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me," Browning said.
City spokesman Robert Vane said the city will launch an investigation next week to determine if Just Cookies, which has operated inside the City Market since the 1990s, violated Indianapolis' anti-discriminatory ordinance.
"Growing the City Market through offering a better product means little when the people offering a better product can decide who they want to sell to and who they don't," Vane said.
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You will find the comments enlightening...and fun.
I wonder if it would be ok for him to refuse making cookies for the KKK rally or the Neo Nazi anniversary? Then the headline would read how wonderful he was for taking a stand!!
I searched cookie, cookies...
I hate duplicate posts because the titles vary so much.
There is a considerable difference in refusing service, and
refusing to produce a special order or product.
Imagine the can of worms from being able to prosecute a
business for not making a product that you demand.
We need a national “Get back In The Closet” day.
If a black man came into a privately owned bakery and asked for a cake that would celebrate the Black Panther party gunning people down or if a white man wanted a cake for the Ku Klux Klan, the bakery would have every right in the world, I would think, to refuse to sell to them.
Not selling rainbow cookies to a controversial organization was the right of that business. Not because of an individual but because the reason was morally objectionable to the owner of the bakery. What if a woman came in and asked for cookies in the shape of male genitalia? Would the bakery be accused of misogyny because they refused the order on moral grounds? What a sick world we live in.
So find a DIFFERENT cookie shop you whining moron. That's what a free market is SUPPOSED to be all about.
And another thing: Why in the world would you want to accept food from someone you KNOW does not like you?
Think: Jesse Jackson working in a restaurant preparing meals for white people].
"Freedom for me, but NOT for thee."
They’re a good Catholic family, little mom and pop kiosk that bakes cookies. I guarantee if someone came by and wanted swastikas put on their cookies they could tell them to go to hell also.
“How about some pig shaped cookies from the Halal shop down the street? “
Now that’s just a great idea!
“Jesse Jackson working in a restaurant preparing meals for white people”
I like ;-)
Tell the people to make their own cookies. How hard is that? If they want to have rainbows on them, get colored frosting.
This is nothing more than an attempt to publicize their event and create trouble for people who might not wish to be involved in it. As far as I’m concerned, everybody has the right to either be involved or not. The shopkeeper is within his rights to refuse to do business with them. I consider it his version of free speech, but would suggest that he sell them undecorated cookies and tell them to decorate them as they wished. That way, at least he makes some money.
Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along...
This incident sounds like a follow-up attack by the homo-nazis to confirm their ridiculous assertion that they are being "discriminated" against. Expect more attacks.
Paging the Alliance Defense Fund!!!
“Coordinator for social justic education”? That sounds mighty Orwellian.
Well, the customers can decide who they want to buy from and who they don't, isn't that true Mr. Vane?
Besides, as noted earlier up thread it was originally cupcakes that were ordered and the store owner said she told them they didn't do cupcakes.
Take an honest poll, and I'm betting the people in that area would rally 70% for the bakery owners. People are getting sick of this harrassment from gays.
“Now, the outraged party is claiming they ordered cookies all along, “
Exactly, a lying group of pervert advocates trying to force people to accept their beliefs. But you have no right to your own beliefs. And the news media carries their water for them.
And if you read the original reports further, the proprietor FIRST said they don't make cupcakes, THEN said the order was refused because they lacked the necessary supplies, and LATER said they refused the order because he had two daughters and feared this would be a bad influence. Three versions to choose from. Of all possible reasons to cripple your own livelihood, frosting on some little cakes has to be one of the most foolish.
Seriously, does this turn you toward the dark side ? And what sort of person can you imagine it would.
The owners have been adivsed not to comment further because the media is clearly on a pro-homosexual jihad and a seeking to use this incident to crucify them. They have misrepresented their statements and nothing good can come from commenting. They are in touch with the Alliance Defense Fund and that's who should be doing the talking. Please keep these good Christian people in your prayers. And by the way, they are a cookie shop not a bakery.
I am sick to death of these stories. It has become out of control. Cookies and cupcakes are now a discrimination issue?? This poor man is now going to have to waste his time and likely money over this nonsense!!!
Either call another freaking bakery or bake your own!!!
These points are not mutually exclusive. In fact the second follows naturally from the first. They are being vilified becasue of their religion. Sacrificed on the alter of PC correctness gone amok. Beware - all of us Christians are next.
Just Cookies, Not Cupcakes
The whole point is to wear people down. Make them so tired of dealing with this that they will give ANYTHING to get rid of it. Then demand your whole agenda. It's the way we are getting "gay marriage" in America.
Obama and company will soon be loading Christians into cattle cars for a trip to the re-education camp.
They asked three people and got three answers. If they had gotten three answers from the same person or if the three people gave exactly the same response I would be more concerned.
What it sounds like to me is The special order was legitimately refused and then a few days later The orderer started thinking about it and decided they had been brutally offended and started lawyer shopping. The bakery personnel were speculating about what happened to a reporter.
Just the drive bys trying to stir things up again
“We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone.”
Nothing remotely conservative about that. Nothing authentically "progressive" about it, either. It's just plain old fascism.
The government has no business telling anyone they have to express a particular moral, social, religious, or any other viewpoint or risk losing their business, their liberty, or their life.
If somebody opened a bakery that only baked cakes for "gay marriages" [sic], would you like the government to force them to bake cakes for straight weddings as well? Same principle.
I think Thomas Sowell said it best: "The problem with splitting the difference between opposing sides, as many negotiators are prone to do whether these negotiators are marriage counselors, labor arbitrators or the United Nations is that this gives an advantage to the side with the most unreasonable demands, and therefore promotes more unreasonable demands in the future."
What kind of an idiot calls a business called Just Cookies and orders cupcakes? and then complains when they are told the business makes Just Cookies??
There is great wisdom in tact. To decide to not sell something is fine. But to sneer at someone while doing so is not—and it doesn’t matter what the reason.
To do so is done not to reject, but to offend. It makes it personal.
Use the ginger (redhead) rule, to tell if something is tactful or not.
“When I explained it to him that I was a redhead, the gentleman told me that it was against their morals and values to do so, and then hung up on me.”
If he did this to a ginger, would the ginger be offended? If so, then it is probably tactless.
“So find a DIFFERENT cookie shop you whining moron. That’s what a free market is SUPPOSED to be all about.”
No, no, that wouldn’t accomplish their agenda which is to make people accept their way of thinking and behaving as normal and worthy of celebrating. Shame, shame on the cookie man for not coming around to their way of thinking and becoming part of the collective group think.
Makes me think of the “Twilight Zone” or “Outer Limits” episode when the young woman is waiting for surgery to make her look like the everyone else, who it turns out all look like pigs.
I don’t think so, in fact we are about a gnat’s butt away from the exact opposite IMHO.
You don’t have to apologize. The posting police are as unrelenting as liberalism. The FR search engine is limited.
“social justice education/social/Socialist Education”
aka: indoctrination and or mind control
The "outraged party" apparently did want cupcakes all along, judging from its subsequent decision to order, um, rainbow-themed cupcakes from another Indianapolis bakery, the very aptly named "Flying Cupcake."
I think, for a “coming out day” celebration, fudge would be more appropriate than cupcakes or cookies.
Foolish or not, shouldn’t he have the freedom to decide whether or not to cripple his own livelihood?
The “love that dare not speak its name” won’t shut up. Need to have a “Sit down, shut up, and leave our kids alone” day.
Beware: The Feds must have Mrs. Shield’s cookie recipe!
I see you’re still posting with you head in the sand.
It is not wearing me down, it is making me angry! I am not to the point of “Oh, whatever” I am to the point of telling them to Shut up and quit whining!
No one should have to lie to maintain basic freedoms in this nation.
It's not a free nation if the government is forcing someone to bake cupcakes or produce anything else that has a message a citizens doesn't want to endorse.
It's outrageous that anyone would think otherwise.
No, "rainbow" cupcakes are harmless. It's the motive and their use that can result in deleterious results. The owners didn't want to "sponsor" this endorsement of perversion, which is what it is. They absolutely have that right to refuse.