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Elderly Chicago crime victims fighting back with guns, 2 cases this week
Examiner.com ^ | Sep 30, 2010 | Deborah O'Malley

Posted on 10/01/2010 9:05:20 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Elderly Chicago crime victims fighting back with guns, 2 cases this week

* September 30th, 2010 11:10 am CT * By Deborah O'Malley, Chicago Crime Examiner

There's another report of a senior citizen using a gun to fight back agains thugs. This time, one of the alleged thugs was killed.

Authorities say Frank T. Obrochta, 45, of Melrose Park and Franko Martinelli, 32, of the 2200 block of West Erie, Chicago, broke into a Ukrainian Village home on the 2100 block of West Huron at about 11 p.m. Monday.

The 79-year-old man who lived in the house confronted the pair. He was maced and punched. The victim was able to grab a gun he kept in the home and he shot and killed Martinelli.

Obrachta was caught soon after and he is now charged with home invasion and murder during the commission of a felony.

Under state law, if someone dies during commission of a felony, the person committing that felony is charged in the death, whether or not he intended for anyone to get hurt.

The Cook County State's Attorney's Office said bond for Obrachta is set at $750,000. Obrachta has an extensive criminal record in both Cook and Lake County.

As for the elderly man, he will not be charged since he was defending himself in his home.

Earlier this week, a 68-year-old woman shot a 12-year-old boy who was throwing bricks at her on the 7600 block of South Coles.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: chicago; fightback; guncontrol; victims

1 posted on 10/01/2010 9:05:21 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

What’s worse, Chicago or Afghanistan?


2 posted on 10/01/2010 9:09:02 AM PDT by jakota (®)
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To: KeyLargo

Well, I’d suspect there will be a spike in these Self Defense shootings, then crooks will find other occupations.

Like running for Alderman in a Chicago Ward..:D


3 posted on 10/01/2010 9:12:48 AM PDT by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: KeyLargo
This time, one of the alleged thugs was killed.

Sounds like SOMEONE'S been spending a bit of time at the range...

4 posted on 10/01/2010 9:14:53 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: jakota
Hmmm... Did Charles Bronson move into the neighborhood?
5 posted on 10/01/2010 9:16:39 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: jakota
What’s worse, Chicago or Afghanistan?

Hmmmmmm.

That's a tough one. They BOTH have thoroughly coorrupt governments. They're both infested with roving gangs of thugs. The chances of being killed by gunfire in one of them versus the other are roughly the same...

It's just so HARD to decide...

Can I think about it some more and get back with you?

;-)

6 posted on 10/01/2010 9:23:31 AM PDT by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: KeyLargo
That is the kind of gun control that I really like to see.

One, maybe two, criminals with extensive records are now off the streets. The cost to society for these two has probably been in the range of up to $1,000,000. Had this been done earlier, with just the investment of $500.00 for a good pistol all that could have been saved. I think we should make owning a weapon mandatory.

7 posted on 10/01/2010 9:36:11 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: jakota

Chicagostan. That’s what I’m calling Barry’s stomping ground from now on.


8 posted on 10/01/2010 9:50:28 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: KeyLargo

I’ll bet Obrochta is feeling like a dumb Pollock today.


9 posted on 10/01/2010 10:02:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Conflict is inevitable; Combat is an option. Train for the fight.)
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To: KeyLargo

I wonder what kind of an impact this has on crime? An FBI study showed that most criminals commit at least 20 felonies for every one they are caught for. The goblins that were shot won’t be committing any more felonies and their deaths may cause others to think twice about their career choice.


10 posted on 10/01/2010 10:28:20 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: KeyLargo

Victory through superior fire power. We have a son/wife and 2 grandchildren living in Chicago. We fear for them but both son and wife are Gulf war vets and know how to shoot.


11 posted on 10/01/2010 10:34:57 AM PDT by JamesA (You don't have to be big to stand tall)
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***Victory through superior fire power. We have a son/wife and 2 grandchildren living in Chicago.**

Cities used to be fairly safe till libs took over.


12 posted on 10/01/2010 10:43:39 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( AKA Rodrigo de Bivar)
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