Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Meg Whitman and the GOP's emerging austerity caucus
Seattle Times ^ | October 1, 2010 | David Brooks

Posted on 10/02/2010 9:43:07 AM PDT by calcowgirl

(snip)

Whitman is representative of an emerging Republican type — what you might call the austerity caucus. Flamboyant performers like Sarah Palin get all the attention, but the governing soul of the party is to be found in statehouses where a loose confederation of uber-wonks have become militant budget balancers. Just as welfare reformers of the 1990s presaged compassionate conservatism, so the austerity brigades presage the national party's next chapter.

Mitch Daniels, the governor of Indiana who I think is most likely to win the GOP presidential nomination in 2012, is the spiritual leader. Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey is the rising star. Jeb Bush is the eminence. Gov. Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Rob Portman, a Senate candidate in Ohio, also fit the mold.

These are people who can happily spend hours in the budget weeds looking for efficiencies. They're being assisted by budget experts from the Hoover Institution, the Manhattan Institute and freelancers like Bob Grady, who did budgeting in George H.W. Bush's administration. Members of the caucus have a similar sense of the role history has assigned them. "This state had a party for 10 years and I'm the guy who got called in to clean up the mess," Christie says.

Christie is the Hot New Thing in the group . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2012; ca2010; cagop; christie; davidbrooks; gop; jebbush; jindal; megwhitman; mitchdaniels; palin; portman; sarahpalin; whitman
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-134 next last

1 posted on 10/02/2010 9:43:13 AM PDT by calcowgirl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

David Brookes is the pet monkey of the NY Times. I think we’d be better not paying attention to anything he says. He’s still trying to pimp Mitch Daniels? lol.


2 posted on 10/02/2010 9:46:12 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

It doesn’t really need to said but... David Brooks is an idiot.


3 posted on 10/02/2010 9:46:35 AM PDT by mike-zed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

Brooks the the pseudo-intellectual in love with the smart technocrat.

Technocrats make good middle-managers, they make terrible leaders.


4 posted on 10/02/2010 9:53:07 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Truthsearcher

very true


5 posted on 10/02/2010 9:55:12 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

Good old David Brooks, pet pseudo-conservative of the New York Times. Pinch Sulzberger really loves him. (Oops, did I say that?)

David never misses a chance to diss Sarah. Could it be that they are worried about her?

Hey, David, one of Sarah’s biggest concerns as governor was to cut the state budget and cut back the pork flowing in from Washington. Bridges to Nowhere, state airplanes, and that kind of stuff. And she did it, which is one reason why Alaska is a lot sounder fiscally than states like California and good old New York.


6 posted on 10/02/2010 9:55:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
Why would any post something from Obama loving David Brooks ?
The NY Slimes Lib who was assigned by his employer to call himself a republican to sucker a few naive readers.

David Brook who gets all excited over the “ crisp cut in Obama pants “.

Useless propaganda.

7 posted on 10/02/2010 10:03:17 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

This group of politicians would like to put the social-issues on the back-burner or whatever their trite phrases might be.

Some of them like Christie talk tough, but are weak on the 2nd Amendment, Cap-n-Trade, endorse liberals like Castle in MD.

It’s no wonder that Uber-RINO like David Brooks would be pushing this type of prattle.


8 posted on 10/02/2010 10:05:15 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl
Mitch Daniels, the governor of Indiana who I think is most likely to win the GOP presidential nomination in 2012

Mitch Daniels has already announced his strategy for the conservative movement, first surrender to the left on social conservatism and get that out of the way.

9 posted on 10/02/2010 10:06:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ([fear of Islam.] Once you are paralyzed by fear of Mohammedanism...you have lost the battle.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

>>”This state had a party for 10 years and I’m the guy who got called in to clean up the mess,” Christie says.<<

I like his analogy. I look at it this way, “The world had a party for 100 years and it’s looking like it’s gonna be cleaned up by the natural flow of events.”

The scary thing here is that when this sort of thing happens, you don’t clean the house, you tear it down, and those not killed in the collapse build a new one where the old one stood.


10 posted on 10/02/2010 10:06:48 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

Meg Whitman is the perfect example of uber-RINOs.

She is a full-throated supporter of tax-payer funded abortions (Baby-Killing).

She supports open-borders.

And she’ll lie and switch her position on any issue just so long as she thinks she can get elected.

Just more of the same old elitist Ruling Class RINO crap!


11 posted on 10/02/2010 10:07:42 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

Go Brown!


12 posted on 10/02/2010 10:22:24 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

Comment #13 Removed by Moderator

To: GeronL

Yeesh, an ‘austerity caucus’ sounds like some evil type of infectious sore you get from rubbing up against Democrats in unsanitary conditions.


14 posted on 10/02/2010 10:28:23 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ("No longer can we make no mistake for too long". Barack d****it 0bama, 2009, 2010, 2011.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

Comment #15 Removed by Moderator

Comment #16 Removed by Moderator

To: calcowgirl

To hell with the cheese weasel term: “compassionate conservatism”.

The article ends there, as far as I am concerned. I wonder how many years it will take to get this oily, cloying, artificial sweetener off of our hands and out of our system.


17 posted on 10/02/2010 10:38:09 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

Un-useful idiots like Brooks always have the time to tell us who we should pick as our candidates, just in case we are too stupid to determine our own best interests.


18 posted on 10/02/2010 10:41:30 AM PDT by Iron Munro (I prayed: "O Lord make my enemies ridiculous." And God granted it - He sent the Obamas.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie; Magic Fingers
Tell me, what's wrong with my position or my logic?

Oh, and please don't tell me you don't recognize when a poster posts "Go Brown" to me after I critize Meg "I am a Liar" Whittman that that is not a not too subtle implication that I am somehow a supporter of Brown.
19 posted on 10/02/2010 10:43:03 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

“Maybe the truth hurts, no!?”

Yeah, you’re a real laser beam of insight.

“Tell me, what’s wrong with my position or my logic?”

As though the terminally sanctimonious cares. Don’t waste my time or yours. Adios.


20 posted on 10/02/2010 10:43:17 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
As though the terminally sanctimonious cares. Don’t waste my time or yours. Adios.

In other words, you have no ammunition where your position in this argument is concerned.

OK, got it.
21 posted on 10/02/2010 10:45:35 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

“Oh, and please don’t tell me you don’t recognize when a poster posts “Go Brown” to me after I critize Meg “I am a Liar” Whittman that that is not a not too subtle implication that I am somehow a supporter of Brown.”

You’re clearly out of your depth...I’M a supporter of Brown. Go insult someone else.


22 posted on 10/02/2010 10:45:58 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

See #22, genius. And if you don’t know why, I’m not about to explain it to you.


23 posted on 10/02/2010 10:46:52 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
You’re clearly out of your depth...I’M a supporter of Brown. Go insult someone else.

How somebody can call me a JackAss and then declare themselves a supporter of Brown is amazing.
24 posted on 10/02/2010 10:47:09 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl
Meg is not part of the conservative movement. She is far better than Jerry Brown. A magic 8 ball would be better than Jerry Brown though.


25 posted on 10/02/2010 10:50:48 AM PDT by ThomasThomas (I still like peanut butter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

“How somebody can call me a JackAss and then declare themselves a supporter of Brown is amazing.”

1. I never called you any such thing, although you are exhibiting many of the characteristics of one.
2. You wouldn’t be amazed if you read the many posts on this forum discussing the rationale of Brown being governor of that sinking ship when it finally sinks. However, I understand that’s tricky for the terminally santimonious who are congenitally unable to accept strategic warfare.


26 posted on 10/02/2010 10:57:13 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
The nutters astroturfing here are sadly obvious.

Jerry Brown created the mess thirty years ago by setting up the massive SEIU staffers, Radical Environmental wackos, Pot smoking lobbyists, redirecting the road system monies to cover the union pensions, massive tax increases , and massive state regulations that drove business out of the state.
Lets not forget how he somehow left Oakland worse off then he found.
Now we have astroturfers peddling the ridiculous statements that Whitman is worse ???

Letting Moonbeam back in the Gov seat is like letting a drunk driver with a car load of kids back in the driver's seat after you have stopped them just because you can't stop all the drunk drivers on the road so why bother at all.

The unions and Gloria Allred are attacking Whitman non stop which means she will stop the radicals from running the entire show in Sacramento.
Moonbeam and the SEIU, CNA , and Movon.org must be stopped at all costs.

27 posted on 10/02/2010 11:07:38 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
2. You wouldn’t be amazed if you read the many posts on this forum discussing the rationale of Brown being governor of that sinking ship when it finally sinks. However, I understand that’s tricky for the terminally santimonious who are congenitally unable to accept strategic warfare.

You know what's really sad, is that I agree with your philosophy/strategy on this issue, even after you jumped to some silly assumptions.
28 posted on 10/02/2010 11:09:04 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie; Magic Fingers

“You know what’s really sad, is that I agree with your philosophy/strategy on this issue, even after you jumped to some silly assumptions.”

Change the subject and the names and this is true on most threads around here.


29 posted on 10/02/2010 11:14:42 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Detente with the GOP nomenklatura - trust, but verify.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt
The nutters astroturfing here are sadly obvious.

What's really amazing, are the terminal GOP supporters who would think that a governorship of Meg Whitman would be good for the GOP.

They're the same group of people who are continually batting conservatives over the head with the failed logic of "At least my guy isn't as bad as their guy" which is basically your reasoning with this post of yours.

Meg Whitman is for the following:

1. Tax-payer funded abortion
2. She supports the Global Warming Scam and is against Prop 23.
3. She is an open-borders supporter and is against AZ 1070.


Add in her perfidy concerning her ever shifting positions on the issues, and you have a perfect example of a Ruling-Class Elitist RINO Republican.

They don't help the GOP, they help to destroy the GOP.

Need some examples?

1. Arnold
2. Mitt Romney as Governor of Mass
3. Mike Castle
4. Lisa Murkowski
5. Mike Bloomberg
6. Charlie Crist
30 posted on 10/02/2010 11:15:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

“You know what’s really sad, is that I agree with your philosophy/strategy on this issue, even after you jumped to some silly assumptions.”

?? In your first post you said you weren’t voting for either one of them.


31 posted on 10/02/2010 11:15:49 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Psalm 144
Change the subject and the names and this is true on most threads around here.

Sad, but true.
32 posted on 10/02/2010 11:16:12 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
?? In your first post you said you weren’t voting for either one of them.

That's correct, I'm not.

Maybe I misunderstood your strategy.

Are you voting for Brown hoping that he and the Democrats get the blame(rightly so) for destroying California?
33 posted on 10/02/2010 11:17:41 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers

Yes! Please go! The further, the better.


34 posted on 10/02/2010 11:20:44 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl

BUMP


35 posted on 10/02/2010 11:24:39 AM PDT by kitkat (OBAMA hates us. Well, maybe a LOT of Kenyans do.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt

Jerry Brown is a flashback from the bad trips all the Cali hippies had in the 70’s.


36 posted on 10/02/2010 11:28:31 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie; ncalburt; I am Richard Brandon; Psalm 144

“Are you voting for Brown hoping that he and the Democrats get the blame(rightly so) for destroying California?”

I’m in AZ so I won’t be voting either way, but if you support that strategy and live in CA, why wouldn’t you vote for Brown?

I threw out “Go Brown!” to stimulate conversation and to gather information, since this situation arises repeatedly. It often seems to boil down to the same options...vote for the RINO to slow down the onslaught of socialism, vote for the DEM so they’ll be at the helm when things implode, vote for a (statistically) irrelvant candidate as a statement, or don’t vote as a statement.

Which is best? I don’t know, although there are well-meaning Freepers who are firmly convinced of their respective positions...all of whom sufficiently make their case that it’s hard to determine a clear-cut winner of the debate.


37 posted on 10/02/2010 11:32:04 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie
Are you unhinged ?

You are PROMOTING letting Moonbeam Brown who CREATED this Mess under his previous REGIME to be in Charge again ?

You want the SEIU , Sierra Club, Cal Nurse Assoc, Movon.org , ACORN to have full control over Sacramento ?

You want SF gay radical activist Mark Leno and Darryl Steinberg to have the ability to RAM thru their mandatory single PAYOR healthcare law for all CA residence and take away our private health insurance?

You want the Marxist Dem party in Ca to have Free reign with no one to VETO their Marxist agenda.

The UNIONS are spending millions to destroy Whitman for GOOD reasons and your so clouded with hate you don't care? The CALIF Dem Marxist party and their Leftist Media Buddies are doing the NUCLEAR strategy on Whitman and YOUR so deranged with HATE and VENGENCE your cheering on the MARXIST Brown ? This PURITY NIHILISM IS IRRATIONAL ! So ,Get a GRIP.

38 posted on 10/02/2010 11:32:22 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: antceecee
Brown is a dangerous Vile Marxist.

These irrational nihilists here are unhinged .

39 posted on 10/02/2010 11:35:39 AM PDT by ncalburt (Even)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt

Agree... can’t see why this is not the unanimous opinion on this thread... it’s a no-brainer.


40 posted on 10/02/2010 11:44:08 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers
Which is best? I don’t know, although there are well-meaning Freepers who are firmly convinced of their respective positions...all of whom sufficiently make their case that it’s hard to determine a clear-cut winner of the debate.

As for me, I can't vote for someone who thinks Abortion is a good thing. Add in the fact that her positions are constantly changing and she supports the Global Warming Scam and is an open-borders fraud and you have someone who is completely wrong for the job of leadership.

Furthermore, add in the fact as established by history, that a left-leaning Republican(as she is), always leaves the GOP party in worse shape than they found it, and it makes no sense then to support such a candidate, none at all.

You are right in your assessment, RINO candidates such as Meg Whitman just lead us down the path of socialism at a slightly slower rate.

Finally, California is going to implode. I'd rather not have a Republican (even if she is marginally a Republican) at the helm when the ship sinks.

The Democrats got us in the condition we are in, they need to take the blame for the inevitable destruction of California.

I want the GOP to be there to clean up the mess post-collaspe.
41 posted on 10/02/2010 11:44:49 AM PDT by SoConPubbie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Attention Surplus Disorder

People should protect themselves by NOT rubbing up against Democrats. Especially since they might take that as rutting.


42 posted on 10/02/2010 11:48:17 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers

We need California to be split into at least two States. Currently it is too big to fail and every District is gerrymandered in the incumbant’s favor. So let’s gerrymander the new North California into a Dem State and let the new South and East California go Pubbie. That way the (put your own insult here) voters in the northern San Fran/Sacramento axis will have to pay for their policies. Let’s see how long they last.


43 posted on 10/02/2010 11:50:56 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: I am Richard Brandon

Do you think SoCal would go Republican in that hypothetical split?


44 posted on 10/02/2010 11:55:42 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie
It’s no wonder that Uber-RINO like David Brooks would be pushing this type of prattle.

Yep -- you can always count on him for that!

45 posted on 10/02/2010 11:59:51 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Magic Fingers

Depends if LA is in or out, and also I was careful to include east with south - then “Yes.”


46 posted on 10/02/2010 12:26:25 PM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: ncalburt
Jerry Brown created the mess thirty years ago by setting up the massive SEIU staffers, Radical Environmental wackos, Pot smoking lobbyists, redirecting the road system monies to cover the union pensions, massive tax increases , and massive state regulations that drove business out of the state.

You forgot "preys on children and kills small animals."

What? You just made those things up? Yep -- Pete Wilson and Arnold Schwarzenegger hold the record for increasing taxes beyond all others.

However -- this article was not about the election in California or Jerry Brown. It was about the future outlook of the GOP with the liberal Brooks saying that Meg & Jeb are the type that will dominate the party in the future. I don't know that Brooks has ever been right about much as he probably said the same thing about Dick Riordan (does he even still call himself a Republican?).

47 posted on 10/02/2010 1:01:12 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: SoConPubbie

How did McCain not make that list?

;-)

And don’t forget to add Meg’s support for a guestworker program for housekeepers.


48 posted on 10/02/2010 1:03:15 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: calcowgirl
And don’t forget to add Meg’s support for a guestworker program for housekeepers.

Is that you Gloria Alred?

49 posted on 10/02/2010 1:59:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: FreeReign

You have a problem with discussing some of the outlandish positions of our candidate?

What part of telling the truth do you have a problem with?


50 posted on 10/02/2010 2:16:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("In politics the middle way is none at all." -- John Adams)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-100101-134 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson