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CA: A New Breed of Home Marijuana Grower
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 2, 2010 | Deborah Netburn

Posted on 10/02/2010 12:38:33 PM PDT by Wolfie

A New Breed of Home Marijuana Grower

California -- Joanne Clarke, a legal secretary in her late 50s, leads the way down a pale green hallway in her modest Costa Mesa home, past a small guest room on the right and a blue tiled bathroom on the left. At the end of the hall, she opens a door, pushes aside a thick black curtain and ducks inside.

"Isn't this wild?" she says, gesturing to the high-tech marijuana grow room she and her husband recently installed. "This used to be my daughter's bedroom."

Wild is one word for it. Bright is another. Unexpected, yet another. What had been a teenager's tropical-themed room is now a beaming, humming, indoor plant laboratory complete with silver reflective bubble wrap on the walls, blinding grow lights, ventilation ducts hanging from the ceiling and marijuana plants in various stages of development neatly labeled with names such as Platinum Kush, Purple Diesel and Blue Cheese.

"They are like our children," Clarke says, gazing proudly at the elegant fronds that look familiar and exotic all at once. "We talk to them."

Clarke's grow room is legal — in the state of California, anyone with a doctor's recommendation to use marijuana can grow it in limited quantities — yet it still feels clandestine. Although she's open about using pot (crushed and placed in capsules) to help manage the pain of rheumatoid arthritis, she and her husband haven't shown the room to any friends. "Ninety-five percent of the people I know are fine with it," she says, "but it's that 5% that I worry about. I don't want to make anyone uncomfortable."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: death2america; deathofthewest; goodbyecivilization; marijuana; pot; prop19; societycollapses; wod
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Apparently the California drug addicts are about to score a great victory.

Well, ya all just keep throwing people in locked cages in your state...Feed them bread and water and horse whip them daily...Force the tax payers to jail, feed and provide them with health care. Hire thousands of more cops to help out.

Let us know how all that works out.

51 posted on 10/02/2010 2:40:27 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Nitehawk0325

Damn these people for growing plants!!!!


52 posted on 10/02/2010 2:40:57 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: 240B

“Take a pill man.”

I don’t see where I said anything that communicates anger.


53 posted on 10/02/2010 2:43:09 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Nate505

“Damn these people for growing plants!”

How about, “Damn these people for endangering others.”


54 posted on 10/02/2010 2:45:10 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Pavegunner72
As part of the licensing, they should have to all post their addresses.

lol...Why stop there...lets get the names of their kids, their medical records, and contact information for their relatives and where they work....

55 posted on 10/02/2010 2:45:33 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: calex59
If you have ever had arthritis you would know that it can be so painful as to prevent movement. It hurts like he**. I have it in only one thumb but it is quite painful and if I had it in all my fingers I would certainly do anything I could to ease the pain and restore movement. Don't be so frickin' quick to judge. From what I understand, from other people, you don't have to get high to ease, or even kill, the pain with MJ.

I have osteoarthritis in my back, and the only thing I ever do for the pain is exercise. I find that keeping the muscles around the arthritic joint toned is far better than any chemical pain killer. Other than the exercise, I'm careful how I pick things up and how I sit.

56 posted on 10/02/2010 3:07:17 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Wolfie

Clearly the drug warriors are not happy about this turn of events, The war on drugs is BIG business.


57 posted on 10/02/2010 3:10:03 PM PDT by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: dsc

Hate to point it out, but there’s a slight difference between muddier and marijuana. Arguably the unlawful taking of life is against manmade and natural law. Marijuana is only against manmade law. Who’s rights get hurt by a person lighting up a joint?

And why should we spend untold billions on a failed policy that fivers govt more power over us?

I don’t believe that engaging in any behavior that results in intoxication is good, but you tell me how to stop it. Watch Boardwalk Empire on HBO and you will see that the unintended consequences of Prohibition are far greater than the behavior itself.


58 posted on 10/02/2010 3:20:51 PM PDT by appeal2 (Don't steal, the government hates competition.)
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To: Wolfie
Back in the 80s, I used to hang with this alright dude named Bill and he was enrolled at Harvard and studying to be a doctor. And then he started growing medical marijuana...


59 posted on 10/02/2010 3:29:17 PM PDT by Mister Ghost
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To: WKUHilltopper

The FreeDopers will be okay with it, but the hippies are going to be so conflicted.


60 posted on 10/02/2010 4:16:48 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Wolfie
You know, the anti-Pot people, I am actually kind of jealous of them in a way.

I wish my life was so free of worry and freakin real, hard, hard, issues I have to deal with every day, that I had the time or the motivation to worry about whether or not someone somewhere is smoking a joint. I couldn't give a rat's ass.

Man, if that is all I had to worry about, I would be a rich and happy ...

61 posted on 10/02/2010 4:24:04 PM PDT by 240B (he is doing everything he said he wouldn't and not doing what he said he would)
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To: dsc

I didn’t realize growing a plant endangered others. Are you allergic to soil?


62 posted on 10/02/2010 4:27:25 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Wolfie

Wait until they get their electric bill or a circuit breaker malfunctions and burns the house down while they are at work. The local LEO raided a home this week with 500 plants and a $13,000 power bill


63 posted on 10/02/2010 6:30:09 PM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: USNBandit
The FreeDopers will be okay with it

Throwing hundreds of thousands of your own people into cages, ruining their lives even more, is stooopid. Ya don't treat your fellow Americans like a common enemy. People get caught up in alcohol and drugs....It's the way it is and the way it will be.

If they need and want help, ya make sure they get it....Dope like alcohol can be really mean. We're support 30 million illegal aliens, that are choking off our health-care system and everything else, so I'm sure we can help our own people...They break the law while high....They're are laws for that...obviously.

Get back to being united, bring some common sense to the table regarding imprison Americans for use, or this'll eventually get mighty ugly for everyone.

64 posted on 10/02/2010 8:26:35 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: tubebender

Yeah, I’m sure everyone who has a grow room doesn’t take the electrical system into account. And uses enough enough juice to have a five digit power bill.


65 posted on 10/02/2010 10:10:00 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Nate505
This one was for $13,000 unless it is a typo...
66 posted on 10/02/2010 10:27:09 PM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: Nate505

This PG&E bill is really odd as most growers bypass the meter in various ways going so far as to use battery jumper cables on the incoming line or they use a butter knife across the blades in the meter base to bypass the meter. A lot of these grows end overloading a line and starting a fire in someone else’s rental and some end up in shootouts with a lot of blood spilled. Paranoia is a growers middle name...


67 posted on 10/02/2010 10:35:10 PM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: tubebender

Most growers? That’s a load of crap. A small minority of growers? Sure. Most growers are pretty small scale individuals who can harvest plenty with 2k watts or less, which is hardly some giant power surge. A 2k watt setup could harvest around 4.5 pounds a harvest (if they can attain a gram a watt, which is a pretty good yield). if that can be done on a perpetual harvest system and get that yield every 2 months, that’s 27 pounds a year. If a pound retails for around $4,000 that potentially over $100k a year. Big enough to be extremely profitable but not enough to be completely noticed.

A $13k a month power bill is absolutely the extreme end of things. A 1000 watt light at a high rate of 15 cents a kilowatt hour comes to around $120 a month, and that’s running the light 24 hours a day. To have a $13k power bill that would come to the equivalent of 108 1000 watt lights. Maybe a mere 70 or so when other equipment is factored in.


68 posted on 10/02/2010 11:18:54 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: tubebender

Yeah, I read it. And I find it hard to believe. I mean, a residential circuit breaker is 200 amps max, and running 80,000 watts (which would be close to the wattage using their bill) 24 hours on even a 240 volt outlet would come to around 250 amps. I just don’t buy it, but who knows.


69 posted on 10/02/2010 11:36:42 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: Nate505
And the Saga continues. I hope the landlord's insurance company doesn't have a weasel clause excluding fires started by grow operations...
70 posted on 10/03/2010 7:59:28 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: Nate505

15 cents a kilowatt is pretty low for most of California. California is one of the few power markets that make solar on the grid a viable option.


71 posted on 10/03/2010 9:32:30 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: tubebender
Was it started by the grow operation? I know I'm not the most advanced reader ever, but I was able to comprehend this part of the article:

On Saturday, investigators did not locate any unapproved electrical wiring or other grow-related equipment at the home, according to the press release. The cause of the fire is still under investigation, but at this time officials do not believe it is related to the grow operation.

72 posted on 10/03/2010 2:29:09 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: USNBandit

Pretty low? According to this link it’s average:

http://www.eia.doe.gov/electricity/epm/table5_6_a.html

But even at let’s say 25 cents a kilowatt hour it still doesn’t make much sense to me. A 1000 watt light run 24 hours a day would cost about $200 a month to run. At $13k a month, that would be about 65 of those lights running all day for a month. 65 1000 watt light bulbs on even a 240 volt circuit would come to 271 amps a day. Unless they replaced the circuit breaker I just don’t see it. The max a circuit breaker can handle in a residential complex is 200 amps.


73 posted on 10/03/2010 3:33:55 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: dragnet2
lol...Why stop there...lets get the names of their kids, their medical records, and contact information for their relatives and where they work....

No, that's what free phone apps are for, and free software. Of course we all agree to the terms, it's just that no body reads the terms, just like most congress men don't read the Bills they vote on. < /s>

74 posted on 10/03/2010 3:55:56 PM PDT by ReformedBeckite
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To: Wolfie

They need to be in prison!


75 posted on 10/03/2010 4:14:36 PM PDT by dalereed
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To: Nitehawk0325
"...If the husband spends hours in the room cultivating his crops, what time does he have to work and make a living...."

Aside from big activity days like repotting and harvesting, a small grow operation should only take up about 15 minutes a day of your time. It's not like you're running a meth lab. It's a weed that will grow in the cracks or a sidewalk, sheesh. It kinda does all the work for you.

76 posted on 10/04/2010 8:19:41 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: tubebender
"...A lot of these grows end overloading a line and starting a fire in someone else’s rental and some end up in shootouts with a lot of blood spilled...."

You are high on drugs. There can be no other reason for your inane postings.

77 posted on 10/04/2010 8:28:22 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

You need to get out of your cave once in a while and catch up on real life where weed is king.


78 posted on 10/04/2010 8:56:11 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: tubebender

I agree. This cave is starting to smell.


79 posted on 10/04/2010 9:03:35 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: Wolfie; All
This is scary. A generation of stoners coming.

Will you ever trust your bus-driver or airline pilot again? I know they are supposed to take the urine test, but at what point does the whole society become so stoned they wave that.

What caught my eye was 2 Hyponic Growing Supply Stores of Eureka Road here in S.E. Michigan.

Drove by them and I had to honestly ask, since when has hyponic indoor gardening become the latest fad, for the health concious or not?

Ya right.. Again a scary development as Detroit tries to get on the decriminalization train. G_d help us...

80 posted on 10/04/2010 9:06:41 AM PDT by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: I Buried My Guns
Here are a few links...

Robbery

Shoot-outs

Fires

81 posted on 10/04/2010 9:07:50 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: tubebender
You are correct, but you're being a bit dramatic, in that most small time growers never partake in any of the stuff you've referenced.

The entire goal is to fly under the radar. If you get into a shootout or burn your house down, you have vailed in that goal.

Kids today are rookies!

82 posted on 10/04/2010 9:13:28 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Novare Res!)
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To: I Buried My Guns

Even Gramma and Grampa get greedy when they see how easy it is to grow. There are 6 or 7 LARGE grower supply warehouses in Eureka/Arcata and a few more in the smaller towns in Humboldt County selling to the indoor and outdoor grower


83 posted on 10/04/2010 9:18:17 AM PDT by tubebender (Life is short so drink the good wine first...)
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To: stockpirate

Yep, and she is probably a great secretary, I have also heard it said, thou shalt not burn weed is not in the 10 commandments, what if Jesus wants a hit in Heaven and all one can remember is all the peaceful decent folks they persecuted..or will they simply tell God don’t do that!!
Just hypothetical obviously..just sayin..


84 posted on 10/04/2010 4:39:00 PM PDT by aces (own broa)
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To: I Buried My Guns
Okay, okay, okay. All of you who slammed me for my comments, I need to be honest with you. I'm jealous of this druggies. Every job I have ever had, military, sheriff's deputy, truck driver, all really frown upon their people smoking weed. I think if I ever had the opportunity to partake in the weed, I just may like it.
I also have one other concern weed smokers. If a person drinks alcohol, drives a vehicle and gets pulled over, there is a way to test him/her for how drunk they are. A weed smoker, there is no test for that. The effects of weed can be just as effective on a person as alcohol. How are the police supposed to test for that when there is no test?? Can someone explain this me?? And don't forget, I've spent decades in the law enforcement and you can't bullshit a bullshitter. So to speak, lol.
85 posted on 10/04/2010 7:56:56 PM PDT by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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