Posted on 10/03/2010 10:01:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Leftists who opposed Obamacare because it was not the British-style National Health Service or the Canadian "single payer" system should take another look.
Constitutional conservatives who feared that Obamacare was a blueprint for an incremental roll out of "single payer" have been proven right.
California's governor is about to sign legislation to set up that state's Health Benefits Exchange. The HBE is authorized under Obamacare and is supposed to be a place where small business and individuals can access the best insurance plans at the cheapest price—a real exchange where customers can compare benefits and price in a competitive atmosphere.
Not in California. The main feature of the California HBE allows the exchange governing board to meet in secret and determine not only which insurance companies can participate and what must be covered, but also what they can charge.
Exchange employees would not be limited by Civil Service pay rates and personnel decisions would also be secret. The exchange would operate independent from either legislative oversight or the governor's authority.
The main goal of this California HBE is to impose government price controls on insurance while mandating the expanded coverage that policies must provide.
California appears to be fulfilling the real intent of Obamacare. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius assailed the "free rein" which insurers had before Obamacare to set any price they wished. Obamacare she vowed would bring "accountability" to health insurance price.
States already regulate the health insurance industry. Responding to higher premium costs driven by new benefits mandated in Obamacare, the HBE in California and soon in your state will destroy what’s left of the insurance free market.
We've seen this slow motion nationalization before.
Decades ago, flood insurance carriers were hit by a political flood when Congress criticized alleged high premiums, slow response and stingy payouts following severe Mississippi flooding. Mandated coverage, de facto price controls, and federal subsidies from Congress eventually forced private insurance carriers to drop flood insurance.
These days, flood insurance is a federal program. Environmentalists should be livid. The federal coverage is so generous that homeowners in flood prone areas have built new homes after every flood. Taxpayers foot the bill. This year the federal flood insurance program is running a deficit over $25 billion. Is this the model for "affordable" health insurance under Obamacare?
The architect of Obamacare, Sen. Harry Reid (D.-ev.), tired of being hammered by challenger Sharron Angle on Nevada's worst in the nation unemployment, has gone on the attack defending Obamacare.
Ignoring the public revulsion over the midnight secret bill drafting, the bribes to individual senators to secure votes, the fact that senators voted on a bill that they did not read, and the repeated lies about what was in the bill, Reid brought Sebelius to Reno, Nev., to tout the benefits of Obamacare.
Democrats vowed to "run on our record." And what a record it is.
Sharron Angle continues to point out that Obamacare will force everyone to pay for coverage they may not need because the federal government will dictate through the political process what coverage is required in every policy. You may not want a transgender operation, but you're covered for it and will pay for it anyway.
The Reid/Sebelius retort was to present 5 year-old Brennan, an autism patient, whose father (an admitted Reid supporter) claimed he could not get insurance coverage for the expensive autism treatment.
No further facts were offered, leaving many questions. Did he have individual or group insurance? Was the father's preferred "treatment" different from a treatment allowed for autism under the coverage? Was the autism a "pre-existing" condition? Did the father try to get insurance before or after the autism diagnosis?
Reid's appeal to emotion clouds the fact that mandated coverage coupled with price controls would eventually put the sky-rocketing costs of medical coverage on the backs of taxpayers was not lost on Angle. In a Reid TV ad meant to slam Angle, she is shown saying "Take off the mandates for coverage... You're paying for things you don't even need."
True. And it's another reason Angle is right and Reid just plain wrong for Nevada and for the country.
Most of the people who voted Obamacare will be re-elected this Nov.
Have a nice day.
Most of the people who voted Obamacare will be re-elected this Nov.
Have a nice day.
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Care to elaborate?
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Stepping back in time...
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“Obama on single payer health insurance”
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Obama on single payer health insurance
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That Arnold, he's a REAL fiscal conservative!
See tag line.
No one will want to offer insurance with these rules.
ping
House seats “in play” this Nov = 90 to 100.
There were 217 Congressmen who voted for Health Reform - that’s not even half.
House seats “in play” this Nov = 90 to 100.
There were 217 Congressmen who voted for Health Reform - that’s not even half.
“The architect of Obamacare, Sen. Harry Reid (D.-ev.), tired of being hammered by challenger Sharron Angle on Nevada’s worst in the nation unemployment, has gone on the attack defending Obamacare.”
Oh...that’s going to work out well. /s
“Sharron Angle continues to point out that Obamacare will force everyone to pay for coverage they may not need because the federal government will dictate through the political process what coverage is required in every policy. You may not want a transgender operation, but you’re covered for it and will pay for it anyway.”
This is the redistribution of wealth/health care that they were able to sell to a the dumb cultists/small minority of the country. It stinks...
“The Reid/Sebelius retort was to present 5 year-old Brennan, an autism patient, whose father (an admitted Reid supporter) claimed he could not get insurance coverage for the expensive autism treatment.”
Of course they will determine if a mere child gets the help they need according to the costs involved, and that child’s “benefit” to society. This is exactly what Sarah Palin addressed in her reference to Trig’s needs having to go to the bureaucracy for help.
Death panels are in the legislation...
“House seats “in play” this Nov = 90 to 100.
There were 217 Congressmen who voted for Health Reform - that’s not even half.”
Those seats in play are huge!
All the Republicans need is 39 seats...and they will have that many, and more.
That is a swing of 78 seats. When one ‘rat loses his/her seat, and a Republican picks that seat up, it’s a swing of two seats.
Just think about the possibilities of having 90 - 100 seats in play!
The whole purpose of an insurance policy is to protect the policy holder against the risk of facing enormous costs related to catastrophic events. The whole concept is based on the expectation that the "catastrophic event" in question for any given insurance policy (major damage to a home, an auto accident, the death of the insured, etc.) will happen infrequently. For property/casualty insurance, a policy holder can go an entire lifetime without ever filing a claim -- and most people are perfectly happy with that.
Once you get to the point where an insurance policy is used as nothing more than a financial mechanism to pay for things that occur on a regular basis, then it isn't "insurance" anymore -- it's just a financial tool to pass off the costs of the products or services in question (a new home for flood "insurance," regular health-related expenses for medical "insurance," etc.) onto someone else.
Mitt will fix it, like he did the Utah hack Olympics, or proposed for Detoilet. He’ll get a federal bailout. ( See, free money. It’s fix? You don’t have to go to Harvard Business school. )
Have you been asleep for 2 years?
Not if we can repeal Obamacare!
The autistic boy's family is basically screwed if the boy did have a pre-existing condition and they didn't have insurance before they discovered he needed the treatment. It's unfortunate, but that is a common feature of insurance policies. The same is true of flood insurance, fire insurance, etc.
The essential, existential lie in the Reid/Sebelius political pitch is that somehow this would change if politicians were put in charge of the insurance function.
That's what the adumbrated Obama "death panel" provision and current triage functions in Britain's National Health are all about.
Just because healthcare or health insurance are nationalized by Socialists, won't change the unhappy future of people like the autistic boy Reid is holding up as an example of what he wants to do. He'll just have a somewhat different unhappy future, in which his family will fruitlessly beg bureaucrats instead of insurors for what society won't give them.
But politicians will enjoy enormous power over people with sick children -- or any children. This is what politicized health insurance is all about. Reid is the very first in line to try to cash that chip.
I hope Sharron Angle stomps Reid flatter than a tortilla.
“So you agree with what I said - Most of the guys running for the House will coast to easy re-election.
Most of the guys who voted for Obamacare will win and get sent back.
And that was my point.”
What are you talking about? Most importantly...what are you smoking?
The only Republican who voted for Obamacare in the House was Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana. IIRC, he defeated Dollar Bill Jefferson, who had $90K stuffed in his freezer and used government rescourses to retrieve it right after Katrina.
IIRC, he’s since changed his vote.
No Republican voted for porkulus.
“There is a reason Nancy Pelosi is smiling: cause she just took a dump on the American people and she’s not even facing a re-election challenge in her home district.”
That’s not a smile...it’s the result of multiple botox injections.
She doesn’t care if they run against her as long as it might end up with the results she desires.
That won’t happen, no matter how much she deludes herself.
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