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Self-Aiming Sniper Rifles Coming Next Year
Popular Science ^ | 10/01/10 | Rebecca Boyle

Posted on 10/04/2010 3:40:57 AM PDT by Doogle

A sniper crouches near an open window and zooms in on his target, who sits a half-mile away. He peers through a scope and holds his breath, preparing to squeeze the trigger. But it’s windy outside, and he can't afford a miss. What to do?

Clearly, he needs a self-aiming gun. Fortunately, one should be available next year.

Using the One-Shot system, under development by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), a new electro-optical system will calculate the ballistics for him, telling him where to aim and ensuring a perfect shot -- no matter the weather conditions.

Lockheed Martin won a $6.9 million contract this week for the second phase of DARPA’s One-Shot system, which will provide direct observations of a target, measure every variable that influences a bullet’s flight, and calculate the aim offset in a sniper’s rifle scope.

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...guess this one slipped by the rats in Congress because they were too busy covering their own a....
1 posted on 10/04/2010 3:41:00 AM PDT by Doogle
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To: Doogle

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2600919/posts


2 posted on 10/04/2010 3:41:52 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: caver

....this is for the Monday morning arriving at the office sipping a coffee before starting work group.


3 posted on 10/04/2010 3:45:29 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Doogle

It takes into account temperature, humidity and air pressure but not the most important factor in long range shooting, the wind. The wind is often not the same intnesity or even direction between shooter and target. It is not unusual to see wind flags blowing in opposite directions even on a 300 m range. Wind can be measured near the gun but not over the entire distance to the target.


4 posted on 10/04/2010 3:52:51 AM PDT by Conan the Conservative (Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of the hippies.)
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To: Doogle

>> Fortunately, one should be available next year.

I wonder if Cabela’s is planning to stock these?

I can use all the help I can get.


5 posted on 10/04/2010 3:54:19 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Conan the Conservative

Eh, it *can*, but only if you happen to have enough particulates in the air between you and your target for radar to track.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 4:00:22 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Doogle; humblegunner; 50mm; Eaker
Throwing this out to the more weapons savvy people I know.

Just why would you want a sniper rifle that aimed at itself?

And, does it look anything like this?


7 posted on 10/04/2010 4:02:51 AM PDT by shibumi (Wily Pablo loves Flank Steak Tacos)
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To: Doogle

Until batteries run out and then no one knows how to shoot with them.


8 posted on 10/04/2010 4:15:19 AM PDT by mainsail that ('Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes')
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To: Doogle

Don’t tell my wife....


9 posted on 10/04/2010 4:28:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

10 posted on 10/04/2010 4:29:58 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: mainsail that

That’s right, dumb down the snipers so they don’t know how to shoot without this crutch. Not very smart in my opinion.


11 posted on 10/04/2010 4:45:42 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Spktyr
Eh, it *can*, but only if you happen to have enough particulates in the air between you and your target for radar to track.

Then, there's that part about concealing the high gain dish, dish mounts, transceiver, power supply, feed line.......

12 posted on 10/04/2010 4:54:21 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (Stop the insanity - Flush Congress!)
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To: Doogle
As seen/read in I,Sniper by Stephen Hunter.
13 posted on 10/04/2010 4:54:30 AM PDT by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: Roklok

Just another tool in the toolbox.
Ya don’t “dumb down” a sniper.


14 posted on 10/04/2010 4:56:10 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Travis McGee; hiredhand; ExSoldier

Ping.


15 posted on 10/04/2010 5:06:15 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: bossmechanic

When I was shooting tournaments in the Marines (long time ago) we were shooting at 600 yards without a scope. With that being said, I wouldn’t mind having one of these fancy doodads to play with...


16 posted on 10/04/2010 5:06:26 AM PDT by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Doogle
"....which will provide direct observations of a target, measure every variable that influences a bullet’s flight, and calculate the aim offset in a sniper’s rifle scope."

Yeah, right. Just like global warming. How, for instance, to they plan to measure the differences in wind velocity, given that the velocity can be different at different points along the bullet's path??

17 posted on 10/04/2010 5:15:12 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: bossmechanic

The military has been dumbing down people for years. Started with the Clinton Administration, with training costs taking a back seat. Todays technicians can’t fix anything. That’s why the Navy ship’s always need to call tech reps to get things fixed. I still get feedback from some of my ex-navy buddies who are todays tech reps. They say it is awful out there, but good job security for them. I served 22 years and never had to call a tech rep for assistance. I always had a good crew and kept them trained. My daughter just retired from the navy, and she tells me that formal training is non-existant. Self paced online courses is what passes for training now days. Short sighted and foolish. Seems like the only branch that has maintained standards is the Marine Corp.


18 posted on 10/04/2010 5:15:55 AM PDT by Roklok
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To: Wonder Warthog

*schruggs*....hey ask them...*smiles*


19 posted on 10/04/2010 5:16:36 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: BushCountry
When I was shooting tournaments in the Marines (long time ago) we were shooting at 600 yards without a scope.

How long ago? M16? M14? M1? or '03A3?

20 posted on 10/04/2010 5:27:50 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9 (Life is hardly more than a fraction of a second. Such a little time to prepare oneself for eternity!)
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To: Doogle
Using the One-Shot system, under development by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), a new electro-optical system will calculate the ballistics for him, telling him where to aim and ensuring a perfect shot -- no matter the weather conditions.

This exact technology figured large in Stephen Hunter's latest Bob Lee Swagger novel, ISniper.

21 posted on 10/04/2010 5:31:53 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Conan the Conservative
It is not unusual to see wind flags blowing in opposite directions even on a 300 m range

Ha! I see it all the time at 100 yards! It's not unusual to see two wind flags 10 feet apart blowing in opposite directions. One range I shoot seems to have a dividing line down the middle. All flags on the left half of the range will blow in one direction and all flags on the right half will blow in the other direction.

22 posted on 10/04/2010 5:35:51 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

They still have 600 yard military rifle matches - not necessarily associated with the military, but the shooters use military rifles such as M-14, M-16, Garand, etc. My friend in Ohio has competed in this.

They use open sights, and IIRC, shoot at those distances from the prone position. I’ve shot 200 yard matches - we shot standing, kneeling, and prone.


23 posted on 10/04/2010 5:38:13 AM PDT by meyer (Tax the productive to carry the freeloaders - What is it with democrats and slavery?)
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To: Roklok

Seems like the only branch that has maintained standards is the Marine Corp.

There is a good one, and I’ll bet you know the answer.

The Marines only break things! They have no requirement to fix what they were ordered to break.

On a more serious note, the Air Force aircraft electronics fixers are basically doing the same. Remove and replace rather than fix what is broken. You replace a box rather than fix the box. It is faster, and the box gets fixed at a depot, but you are not using your electronics training very much and it becomes a lost art.

Pretty hard anyway to fix micro electronics with a sledge hammer and a soldering gun.


24 posted on 10/04/2010 5:41:49 AM PDT by wita
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To: Wonder Warthog
Yeah, right. Just like global warming. How, for instance, to they plan to measure the differences in wind velocity, given that the velocity can be different at different points along the bullet's path??

It takes care of that by launching multiple smoke grenades, which land every 50 yards between the shooter and the target.

Mark

25 posted on 10/04/2010 5:43:19 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Doogle

“measure EVERY variable that influences a bullet’s flight”
EVERY variable? Just how do they plan to do that?


26 posted on 10/04/2010 5:56:26 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

post #19


27 posted on 10/04/2010 5:57:24 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Roklok
There was much resistance to doing away with celestial navigation classes in Coast Guard OCS. When GPS came on line who needs to shoot the stars. We also got rid of the machine shops where we made/repair parts when every thing went modular. Kids in schools are dependent on calculators. It's called progress. Question really is do we the “sniper” to carry the rifle anyway, what with predators remotely controlled from Oklahoma.
28 posted on 10/04/2010 5:57:41 AM PDT by dblshot (Insanity - electing the same people over and over and expecting different results.)
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To: Roklok

Even though I was in the Army at the time, I had the same feeling in 1998 when the Naval Academy stopped teaching celestial navigation.


29 posted on 10/04/2010 6:01:25 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Doogle
DARPA

Decapitating Angry Religion of Peace Adherents

30 posted on 10/04/2010 6:04:02 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: NY.SS-Bar9

How long ago?

“All ready on the left? All ready on the right? All ready on the firing line! Shooters, remove ramrods! With a paper cartridge and one round, load! Prime your musket!...”


31 posted on 10/04/2010 6:05:14 AM PDT by M1911A1
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To: BushCountry
When I was shooting tournaments in the Marines (long time ago) we were shooting at 600 yards without a scope.

That's nothing! I can do that. Could you hit something at 600 yards without a scope? That's more of a challenge.

32 posted on 10/04/2010 6:06:35 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (I tweet, too...)
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To: Conan the Conservative

You didn’t read the article. It clearly states that it does account for the wind.


33 posted on 10/04/2010 6:12:09 AM PDT by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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To: wita

Sledge hammers broke boards. We used rubber mallets on the KY-3.

Some form of Doppler radar is probably used to get wind speeds and directions downrange.


34 posted on 10/04/2010 6:15:16 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: Conan the Conservative

Mirage can raise havoc at those ranges too.

Gunner


35 posted on 10/04/2010 6:39:05 AM PDT by weps4ret (Where is John Galt?)
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To: Onelifetogive; BushCountry
When I was shooting tournaments in the Marines (long time ago) we were shooting at 600 yards without a scope.

That's nothing! I can do that. Could you hit something at 600 yards without a scope? That's more of a challenge.

National match course of fire in the 60s and 70s. Ranges were 200 yards, 300 yards, and 500 hundred or six hundred yards (depending on the range). Total of 50 rounds. Using the 5V targets for a max possible score 0f 250. Personal best was 247-15 V. So yes, you can hit targets at 600 yards with iron sights.

36 posted on 10/04/2010 6:41:58 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: MarkL
"It takes care of that by launching multiple smoke grenades, which land every 50 yards between the shooter and the target."

Methinks a line of smoke puffs would alert the target and provide a "connect-the-dots" arrow pointing right back at the sniper.... :^)

37 posted on 10/04/2010 7:10:54 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
How, for instance, to they plan to measure the differences in wind velocity, given that the velocity can be different at different points along the bullet's path??

Real snipers (well, the spotters) look at grass, trees, water ripples and blowing sand along the whole trajectory and factor that into the shot. I don't think our image recognition technology is up to that ability yet. However, this system would basically automate 80% the connection between a ballistics chart ("there's an app for that"), the current conditions, and the scope.

38 posted on 10/04/2010 7:16:54 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wita

I remember they were already doing pluck-and-chuck in satellite trucks in the 80s. Of course that’s line-level. After that the equipment goes up the maintenance chain until someone fixes it or decides it’s dead.


39 posted on 10/04/2010 7:21:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: MarkL
Why depend on a self-aiming rifle , when you can have self-aiming BULLETS?


40 posted on 10/04/2010 7:49:35 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Wow, when basic navigation is no longer taught, a heading is figured out by a machine and a sextant is a word in the dictionary. What is the result when you have battle damage or electrical failure reducing the “navigator” to a pile of junk?

If I remember the stories of my father in law, 93 years young and a 26 year navy vet from 1935 to 1961, young sailors learned how to use the sextant


41 posted on 10/04/2010 8:09:51 AM PDT by wita
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To: CPOSharky

That’s some good shooting CPO.

My competitive shooting was all indoors with a .22 Hardly a comparison.


42 posted on 10/04/2010 8:14:47 AM PDT by wita
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To: shibumi

Its not self-aiming, its self adjusting; it adjusts the reticle for the conditions. They have ‘em on tanks. You still need a sniper and he still has to be be sneaky and have very steady hands.


43 posted on 10/04/2010 8:19:31 AM PDT by Little Ray (nO)
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To: Little Ray

I know that.

I was just making fun of a poorly written headline.


44 posted on 10/04/2010 8:22:18 AM PDT by shibumi (Wily Pablo loves Flank Steak Tacos)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I remember they were already doing pluck-and-chuck in satellite trucks in the 80s.

Hadn’t heard that one. Fits like a glove. Not the ones OJ tried on at his trial.

I have repaired a number of Samsung flat screen TV’s. If you know how to wield a screw driver, can supervise taking the TV down from its wall mount without damage, remember where the six or so board connections go, (actually each has a different connector and short wires that reach only to the appropriate board connection), you too can pluck and chuck a TV.


45 posted on 10/04/2010 8:26:12 AM PDT by wita
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To: wita

Did some 22 shooting in high school also. Ithaca High School at that. Aced a few matches there.

Moved to the Garand in the Navy. I have a Garand now and shot it in some J C Garand matches but it’s not accurized and it and I don’t do as well now.


46 posted on 10/04/2010 9:01:20 AM PDT by CPOSharky (They ain't "illegals." They are just unregistered democrats.)
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To: antiRepublicrat
"Real snipers (well, the spotters) look at grass, trees, water ripples and blowing sand along the whole trajectory and factor that into the shot. I don't think our image recognition technology is up to that ability yet."

I think the "expert system" that would have to massage any data from the image recognition would be the hard part (not that image recognition is "easy" by any means). I think they're gonna need the human in the loop for a while yet.

47 posted on 10/04/2010 9:23:10 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Roklok

>That’s right, dumb down the snipers so they don’t know how to shoot without this crutch. Not very smart in my opinion.

Actually it’s incredibly smart. One of the things that’s holding the government back, and just barely, is the skillset of people that it trained to defend the country: former snipers, special forces, Army, Marines, etc.

By making them dependent on high-tech things that, even if available to the general public are so high-priced nobody but the Bill Gates & Warren Buffets *could* afford them, they effectively cut the direct-applicability of that skillset within the civilian arena.

Perhaps I’m a little cynical or paranoid, but you have to admit that the reasoning fits.


48 posted on 10/04/2010 9:39:21 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

>I think the “expert system” that would have to massage any data from the image recognition would be the hard part (not that image recognition is “easy” by any means). I think they’re gonna need the human in the loop for a while yet.

Let me put it this way: artificial intelligence has reached the point that it is on-par with an epileptic chicken.
{The image recognition -> ‘data massage’ system would be of AI level complexity; it would have to know what images to include and which are irrelevant.}


49 posted on 10/04/2010 9:51:48 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Other than the downrange windage, this looks all pretty basic. You need sensors for humidity, air pressure, attitude (barrel pointing up or down), barrel temperature and airspeed and direction. Couple that with a ballistics database for that gun and that round, and it’s basic physics. I’ve been wanting to write something like this for years, but I can’t do the hardware bits.


50 posted on 10/04/2010 10:02:12 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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