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Dim Idea (The environmentalist's war on your bathroom and how you light your home)
National Review ^ | 10/04/2010 | Rob Long

Posted on 10/04/2010 7:23:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: MrB

My home is a combination of Fluoroscent and Incandescent lighting (I’d say 75% incandescent and 25% Fluorescent).

I don’t intend to leave this place for the next 7 to 8 years and 2014 will be upon us soon.

Has anybody done and estimation on HOW MUCH IT WILL COST to the average family to replace ALL Incandescent lighting with CFL lighting ?

Also, how are the Feds going to ensure total compliance? Are they going to hire people who will go from house to house and then start fining those who don’t comply ?

What if you are on a budget and don’t have the money to rewire your house ?

HAS ANYBODY ACTUALLY EVEN ASKED THESE QUESTIONS ?

Do you realize that most of you are going to be considered law breakers in 4 years?

This stupid law was passed in 2007 ( Bush was president then ).... HOW COULD HE EVEN SIGN THIS INTO LAW ?


21 posted on 10/04/2010 10:32:26 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: Gorzaloon

RE: Be patient. LEDs are on the way.


Putting LEDs aside, I have a more practical question regarding how the ban-the-incandescent law is going to affect my pocket come 2014.

My home is a combination of Fluoroscent and Incandescent lighting (I’d say 75% incandescent and 25% Fluorescent).

I don’t intend to leave this place for the next 7 to 8 years and 2014 will be upon us soon.

Has anybody done and estimation on HOW MUCH IT WILL COST to the average family to replace ALL Incandescent lighting with CFL lighting ?

Also, how are the Feds going to ensure total compliance? Are they going to hire people who will go from house to house and then start fining those who don’t comply ?

What if you are on a budget and don’t have the money to rewire your house ?

HAS ANYBODY ACTUALLY EVEN ASKED THESE QUESTIONS ?

Do you realize that most of you are going to be considered law breakers in 4 years?

This stupid law was passed in 2007 ( Bush was president then ).... HOW COULD HE EVEN SIGN THIS INTO LAW ?


22 posted on 10/04/2010 10:34:25 AM PDT by WebFocus
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To: rarestia

BTW, I take exception to this sentence in the above article :

“By 2014, according to an absurd and indefensible act of Congress — and this one passed in 2007, so it’s not Obama’s fault for once “

Why do we always heap praise or blame on a President ALONE when some law gets passed or rejected?

Obama was Senator in 2007. HOW DID HE VOTE ON THIS ISSUE?
If he voted YEA, then he CANNOT ESCAPE BLAME.

Of course, the more important question is this — WHY DID BUSH NOT VETO THIS STUPID AND IDIOTIC BILL WHICH WILL WILL ALL BUT GUARANTEE THAT THE FEDS WILL INTRUDE IN OUR LIVES?


23 posted on 10/04/2010 10:41:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, he signed ethanol subsidy bills too. There’s also the Patriot Act, which is a bit unConstitutional in some sections.

We’d have to go back 80 - 100 years to get back to where most FReepers would consider an acceptable Constitutional Republic.


24 posted on 10/04/2010 10:43:42 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: WebFocus
Also, how are the Feds going to ensure total compliance? Are they going to hire people who will go from house to house and then start fining those who don’t comply ?

They will have just shut them off at the supply side. Eventually all the incandescents will have burned out, and the oceans will lower, the Whales will sing gloriously, and Ubumbu the Magnificent (PBUH) will ascend to Heaven. There will be rainbows and unicorns, the Dodo will return, etc.

25 posted on 10/04/2010 11:12:11 AM PDT by Gorzaloon ("Mother...My Couric itches.")
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To: WebFocus

>This stupid law was passed in 2007 ( Bush was president then ).... HOW COULD HE EVEN SIGN THIS INTO LAW ?<

Did the Democrat majority of that period send him a bill that was packed with so much stuff it slipped by, or did he know he was signing this into law? If the latter is the case, surely he didn’t think this through and didn’t know how much mercury the bulbs contain.


26 posted on 10/04/2010 11:13:44 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: WebFocus
Also, how are the Feds going to ensure total compliance? Are they going to hire people who will go from house to house and then start fining those who don’t comply ?

You'll need an inspection and a permit in order to sell a house. Yes, they WILL "hire" people to inspect your house, but, not only will you pay to bring it up to "code", you'll pay for the inspection and re-inspection in order to be able to sell it.

27 posted on 10/04/2010 11:25:33 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: WebFocus

“Has anybody done and estimation on HOW MUCH IT WILL COST to the average family to replace ALL Incandescent lighting with CFL lighting ?”

Right now I can go to any number of “dollar” stores in the big city and buy CFLs for $1 apiece. Count how many incandescents you have to replace and that is how dollars you will spend. In two years I have yet to lose one CFL.


28 posted on 10/04/2010 1:38:52 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: MrB

If you sell a home in MA to a family with kids, you have to provide an certificate affidavit stating there is no lead paint in the house. Think it’s already in force or pending.

For older homes, potentially an issue.


29 posted on 10/04/2010 1:49:14 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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To: swarthyguy

Yep, KS as well on the “lead paint disclosure”.


30 posted on 10/04/2010 1:53:48 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB

The costs could become rather prohibitive in some cases.

Old houses, architectural flourishes layered in paint coats over decades......plastic seals when the removal process takes place.....workers in hazmat gear......Wow!

At least no one’s talking about the glue behind old wallpape!


31 posted on 10/04/2010 2:07:58 PM PDT by swarthyguy (KIDS! Deficit, Debt,Taxes!Pfft Lookit the bright side of our legacy -Ummrika is almost SmokFrei!)
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