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E. Tenn. abortion doctor charged with pointing gun at protesters (Should killers be armed?)
Volunteer TV ^ | 10/03/10

Posted on 10/04/2010 2:38:23 PM PDT by Libloather

E. Tenn. abortion doctor charged with pointing gun at protesters
Updated: 8:52 PM Oct 3, 2010

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) -- Police have charged a physician who provides abortion procedures in East Tennessee with pointing a gun at protesters outside a Charleston health care office.

The Post and Courier of Charleston reported that 62-year-old Gary Boyle of Blountville, Tenn., was released on $25,000 bail Saturday. There was no answer Sunday at a telephone listing for Boyle in his hometown and the clinic was closed.

According to a police report, Boyle pulled out a handgun when he was approached by three abortion protesters in the parking lot at Charleston Women's Medical Center in West Ashley. It was not clear whether Boyle was performing abortions at the Charleston clinic.

The protesters are participating in a "40 Days for Life" campaign in which they pray outside the clinic 24 hours a day from Sept. 22 through Oct. 31.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 40daysforlife; abortion; babykiller; banglist; doctor; doublestandard; gun; prodeath; protest
It's never too late to snuff out life.
1 posted on 10/04/2010 2:38:29 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

He must be one of those angry Tea Party people.


2 posted on 10/04/2010 2:40:18 PM PDT by earlJam
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To: Libloather

At the end of the day, what he does is immoral, but it is entirely legal.

Everyone has the right to protect themselves. When 3 protesters approached him, he felt threatened - so does he have a right to protect himself? Yup.

I find it interesting that he is the sole source of hatred by those who oppose abortion. It seems to me that he is no jumping unsuspecting women and killing their babies - they are seeking him out, and paying him to perform this ‘service’. So, who is the more evil? The Doctor providing a ‘service’ or the mother who seeks and then pays this ‘service’?


3 posted on 10/04/2010 2:42:45 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Libloather

Once you recognize that abortion doctors are flat out murderers, you have to realize that they have no moral qualms about harming human beings in any other way. Indeed, the only thing which stopped this doctor from killing the protesters was that the legal code, thank the LORD, protects them.

This lunatic deserved the death penalty long before he pointed a gun at protesters. If liberals can’t see that there is a correlation between disregard for the unborn and a disregard for the rest of the human race after this event, then there is no hope for them.


4 posted on 10/04/2010 2:44:23 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (Liberals are lazy, and objectively pro-lazy.)
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To: Hodar
When 3 protesters approached him, he felt threatened - so does he have a right to protect himself? Yup.

Then he never should've been charged with a crime.

5 posted on 10/04/2010 2:45:02 PM PDT by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Hodar

There have been maniaccs who have published the family information and addresses of abortionists. I persoanlly think that a lot of these people are on edge day in and day out.


6 posted on 10/04/2010 2:46:32 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Libloather

Well, you can be charged with anything - shoplifting, jaywalking, speeding, wearing Spandex, ect.

What will be interesting is how the court finds him. Given the number of Abortion Doctors who have been murdered, and the fact that he was approached by 3 protesters - one can understand how he could have felt threatened.


7 posted on 10/04/2010 2:51:25 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
Everyone has the right to protect themselves. When 3 protesters approached him, he felt threatened - so does he have a right to protect himself?
True. I failed to consider this in my original post. If you feel threatened, you have an obligation to defend yourself.
I find it interesting that he is the sole source of hatred by those who oppose abortion. It seems to me that he is no jumping unsuspecting women and killing their babies - they are seeking him out, and paying him to perform this ‘service’. So, who is the more evil? The Doctor providing a ‘service’ or the mother who seeks and then pays this ‘service’?
Both are facilitators of murder, but it is the doctor who lands the killing blow. The mother must be severely punished by the law, but the doctor must pay the highest price. (Granted, I would prefer that direct facilitators to crime receive the death penalty, as well.)
8 posted on 10/04/2010 2:51:47 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (Liberals are lazy, and objectively pro-lazy.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Not to often I’m in 100% agreement on this topic - but I think you and I think alot alike.

From a religious point of view; you cannot destroy a soul. You can only deny a soul the full measure of life it may have had an opportunity to experience, and this is something he will answer to God for. I would not want to be in his shoes on that day - or anywhere in the vicinity. In fact, if I get any say in the matter I either want to be a couple of million souls ahead of him in line, or behind him in line.

I’m banking heavily that God will get bored on judgement day and that he grades on a curve.


9 posted on 10/04/2010 2:55:59 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Libloather; MHGinTN; NellieMae; Mrs. Don-o; don-o; jaycee

bump


10 posted on 10/04/2010 2:56:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Greetings Jacques. The revolution is coming)
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To: Hodar

Both, but if you want to suppress the practice you get more bang for your buck by eliminating the job of “abortionist”.


11 posted on 10/04/2010 2:58:15 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Hodar

You dont carry, right? If you did, you’d more than likley know that the laws of the several states do not allow one to demonstrate lethal force towards another when there is NO justification.

Usually, states laws require three basic components of an equation to be present:

ability-the threat(s) must have ability to do great harm or result in death

opportunity-be close enough (or within reasonable range if weapons are involved)

imminence-the threat must be underway or about to be underway

Three folks carrying “Jesus Loves You” signs does not likely meet the first (even if they were 250 pounders),

Three folks carrying “Jesus Loves Unborn Children” signs after 30 some days of peaceful presence likely does not equal the second

and three guys praying aloud in Jesus’ name does not (likley) meet the third

If this guy was threatened-it was by his own (seared) conscience, not three folks approaching him peacefully. This is why he was arrested, and not the three folks who were approaching.....

Best;


12 posted on 10/04/2010 2:59:23 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: Hodar
No, we no longer know how many abortionists have been murdered, nor what they were murdered for.

The courts no longer allow the posting of that particular piece of information.

Remember, just because you might be an abortionist doesn't mean you are immune to drunk drivers, street bandits, bank robbers, or other folks who wouldn't particularly care one way or the other if they killed you. I'm sure they have at least their share of such victim situation, if not more.

13 posted on 10/04/2010 3:02:43 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Manly Warrior

Thanks Manly. Guns aren’t for scaring people away.


14 posted on 10/04/2010 3:03:42 PM PDT by pingman (Price is what you pay, value is what you get.)
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To: Hodar

Only personal faith in the saving work of Jesus Christ’s once-for-all sacrifice on the cross will straighten out the balance owed by you or anyone else on judgement day.

No curves, no goody goody worky stuff, only child like faith, then a life motivated by the free gift of etneral life....

Sorry, you are gambling.

If I am wrong, so what, if you are wrong, so sad. There is yet time!


15 posted on 10/04/2010 3:04:30 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War" (my spelling is generally korrect!))
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To: muawiyah
Both, but if you want to suppress the practice you get more bang for your buck by eliminating the job of “abortionist”.

I'm not sure this is entirely accurate. Before we had abortionists, we had wire hangers and women inserting chemicals and other insturments in the attempt to abort the child. We also had unlicensed 'doctors'.

To eliminate this, we need to eliminate both Supply and Demand. As long as there is a 'demand', there will be a supply. Just like in the drug industry - without any regulation there is no safety for anyone involved. Any butcher can weild a knife, fork, bottle of Liq. Plumber, ect. And many have.

16 posted on 10/04/2010 3:05:02 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
There were far more claims about coat hangers than cases in reality.

And then, there's the assumption the women were doing it themselves.

17 posted on 10/04/2010 3:08:07 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Manly Warrior

My fault ... should have thrown down the < /sarcasm> or < /just kidding> flag after my ‘grade on the curve’ statment.

This often happens when I’m snickering during a post.


18 posted on 10/04/2010 3:08:31 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: muawiyah

I’ll take your word on that. I was in High School during Roe vs. Wade. So, to say I was ignorant and naive’ is an understatment.

I honestly have no idea how many ‘home abortions’ were attempted, how many were successful and never were reported, how many were unsuccessful and required hospitalization, how many were unsucceful and resulted in the death of the mother - or how many were unsuccessful and resulted in a normal birth.

Logically, we would never know how many were successfully done at a Black Market clinic.


19 posted on 10/04/2010 3:11:26 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Do you really want to compare score cards? I mean, approximately a million per year slaughtered in abortuaries and a few women dying from botched butchery, as compared to how many aborticutionists per year? ... You might be on the wrong forum for your worldview. FR is a concservative, pro-life forum.


20 posted on 10/04/2010 3:16:54 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: bert

When malpractice in TN pushes a ‘doctor’ to murder alive unborn chidlren in another state ... this man is the scum of the earth.


21 posted on 10/04/2010 3:19:40 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I would say it’s MORE than malpractice that affects his decisions. It is pure evil....and if he can so easily snuff out the life of the innocent unborn baby, he would certainly be likely to end the lives of those who protest his horrible actions.


22 posted on 10/04/2010 3:24:08 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Hodar
The other claim tossed about is that before Roe v many women died in childbirth. The truth is that women quit dying in childbirth with the advent of effective antibiotics!

I'd also like to note that "back alley" abortions didn't disappear ~ whatever they were ~ they were LEGALIZED by the USSC.

The court applied no restrictions whatsoever to the practice of abortion.

It is entirely possible that the whole practice could be quickly eliminated by removing it entirely from the field of medicine ~ and just let anybody do anything they want at any time.

Now that'd give you a death rate to suppress any practice!

I call that my "privatization option" ~ which, so far, has not been embraced by the pro abortion crowd.

23 posted on 10/04/2010 3:25:34 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: Libloather
He deserves all the respect, protection, understanding and sympathy that a baby murderer deserves.

Nuff said.

24 posted on 10/04/2010 3:37:40 PM PDT by The Cajun
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To: Hodar

It sounds like this report is not accurate. Another report states the following:

Cheryl Freiberger, outreach coordinator for the local 40 Days for Life, told LifeSiteNews.com that the charge facing Boyle is a felony. She also said reports claiming the men had approached the abortionist as he sat in his vehicle before he brandished the firearm were false.

“It’s not the peaceful pro-life people who are attacking or acting violently, but it’s often the pro-choice people who act out against us,” she said. She said she hoped that other minor assaults suffered by pro-lifers, which she said police had treated with less diligence, would receive more scrutiny thanks to the recent incident.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2601468/posts


25 posted on 10/04/2010 3:40:21 PM PDT by Faith
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To: Hodar
Going by the info. in the story, the 40 Days for Life people did not threaten this man in any way, either by word or by deed. Since I am familiar with 40 Days, I know their explicit group discipline AND their long-established history have shown a commitment to zero aggression on their part.

On the other hand, pointing a gun could itself be reasonably construed as threatening activity. I see the police took it seriously enough to arrest him; seriously enough to require $25,000 bail.

So let him defend what he did in court. I hope somebody will follow this and keep us up to date. Frankly, I don't wish him well.

26 posted on 10/04/2010 4:11:42 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: SumProVita

I have noticed anti-abortion protesters in Bristol across the street from where he used to practice lately. I thought that they had quit doing abortions there a long time ago. They must have started doing them again.


27 posted on 10/04/2010 8:19:58 PM PDT by NellieMae (Here......common sense,common sense,common sense,where'd ya go... common sense......)
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To: Hodar

Given the number of Abortion Doctors who have been murdered...
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Can you give any stats?


28 posted on 10/04/2010 11:27:50 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: MHGinTN

snort..lol..ya think?

i have not seen Hodar in years...i thought he went with the klowns or darwin central bunch

man...they are all back now...and from Ivan too...they just can’t stand it with this big election

they want to be where the action is

i bet one particular harbor is here somewhere


29 posted on 10/04/2010 11:46:16 PM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: Neidermeyer
Can you give any stats?

Google is your friend.

Murders

In the U.S., violence directed toward abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[5]

March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Dr. Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison. August 21, 1993 Dr. George Patterson, was shot and killed in Mobile, Alabama, but it is uncertain whether his death was the direct result of his profession or rather a robbery.[6][7]

July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003.

December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi, who prior to his arrest was distributing pamphlets from Human Life International,[8] was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings. January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.

October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death at his home in Amherst, New York. His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Dr. Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001. May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed as he served as an usher at his church in Wichita, Kansas.[9]

Source

30 posted on 10/05/2010 6:00:10 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar
And that amounts to how many years per one?

Sadly, the alive children in the womb these aborticutionists have slaughtered were unnamed, and have been slaughtered by your 'heroic' aborticutionists at the rate of more than 900,000 per year in the United States. Another sad aspect is the number of females who have died due to butchery by your 'heroic' aborticutionists. ... And we won't even touch the incidence of alcoholism and drug addiction of your 'heroic' class of murderers euphemistically called 'abortion doctors'.

31 posted on 10/05/2010 9:30:19 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Are you familiar with the term ‘Projection’?

If you bother to read my posts, you will learn that I have never defended, nor will I defend an abortionist. So, before you make a fool out of yourself by putting words in my mouth - I’d suggest you actually READ what I have posted. Do not continue to listen to those voices in your head - read what I have written. I am fluent in English, it is my primary language.

My only statement is that EVERYONE has a right to defend themselves. If 3 people protest your place of work, than approach you - you have the right to defend yourself, if you feel threatened.

Sadly, this doctor is not breaking any laws; however what he is doing is immoral (see my first post). I would not want to be him when Judgement day comes (see post #2).


32 posted on 10/05/2010 10:42:51 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: MHGinTN
You might be on the wrong forum for your worldview. FR is a concservative, pro-life forum.

That's funny, I thought we were a country of laws ... not fuzzy emotional tirades. Like it or not (and I don't), the USSC issued a 'law' that impacts everyone. So, until the law is changed - we operate within the law. The question you have not asked (but rather have presumed to assume) is "Do I agree with this law, or do I support this law?" Nope. Personally, I feel this falls squarely into the State's jurisdiction. Let each state decide whether they will allow 'abortion'.

Now, if you want to sing a few verses of "Feelings", I'm sure you can find a whole chorus of singers over at the DNC.

33 posted on 10/05/2010 10:49:33 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Google is your friend
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You proved with that pitiful list how lopsided the news reports are... I wanted you to discover that for yourself .. 8 people in what ,, 30+ years ... we have that many women murdered in a year by men that are upset that their girlfriends/wives don’t want to abort.. You may want to look into why pregnancy is a particularly dangerous time for women...


34 posted on 10/05/2010 11:12:22 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

8 people murdered ... yep ... and the population pool of Abortionists is how large again?

They perform a legal, albeit immoral ‘service’, and are targetted as a result. As such, they have good cause to be a little ‘nervous’.

As I mentioned earlier, there is a lot of ‘ire’ on the Doctors who perform this ‘service’; but there is virtually no ire on the women who seek out this ‘service’, and pay cash to have their baby murdered. Yet, I’m unaware of any anti-abortionist murdering a woman as she leaves the office.

Consider, the woman partakes in an activity that creates life. She suspects that she is pregnant, then takes a test to verify. She then consciously seeks out an Abortionist, makes an appointment to have her baby killed and removed from her body - makes payment arrangements and then shows up and submits to the proceedure.

Kinda one-sided hatred, huh?


35 posted on 10/05/2010 11:24:49 AM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

Driving a taxi or working at a 7-11 is far more dangerous. 8 out of a few thousand (not counting tens of thousands of gynecologists that offer private service) times 30 years is a very small number..


36 posted on 10/05/2010 12:18:04 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

I agree that driving a Taxi is far more dangerous, statistically.

But, I can easily understand where an abortionist, being confronted by 3 abortion protesters could easily feel threatened. And, legally - he has done nothing wrong. So, I can see no reason why he should be prohibited from being allowed to defend himself.

If you were protesting Obama, and 3 SEIU thugs approached you, each bearing a Pro-Obama sign - would you feel threatened? I would.

Now, we do not know ‘how’ he was approached. Were they smiling and using the love of Christ to persuade him to stop or change his way of earning a living? Or, were they shouting at him angrily? Were they brandishing their signs as a weapon, or were they simply holding them?

Bottom line, he is allowed to defend himself; and he opted to do so, and he was arrested for it. Now, we’ll see how the courts see this.


37 posted on 10/05/2010 12:42:52 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Hodar

There’s a world of difference between some old ladies in sweaters or a nuns habit and maybe some older men speaking quietly and a similar sized group of union workers who are being extremely confrontational and have a history of violence (biting off a finger at one rally , slamming a wheelchair bound person into the ground at another) ... What gets lost is the tremendous violence that is intentionally ignored by the press ... you have probably not heard of Mike Fuoss ,, he was murdered just about a year ago for holding a sign.


38 posted on 10/05/2010 2:15:23 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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