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Erik Scott Killing Sparks West Point Alums to Target Las Vegas Police
Pajamas Media ^ | October 5, 2010 | Bob Owens

Posted on 10/05/2010 6:01:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: Mr Rogers
it would appear that tactically, curly seems to be oblivious to his backstops and routinely participates in circular firing squads...

injecting yerself into a situation of 'i HAD to shoot' is a recipe for disaster for a citizen...cops should be held to a higher standard...

281 posted on 10/08/2010 5:42:48 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: OneWingedShark; Mr Rogers; kiryandil
i appreciate the frustration but we should 'keep it clean' if at all possible, family forum and all...

however, 'BITE ME, curly' should/could/would be an *expected* response from a citizen who was simply going about his day...

the initial activity that started this whole mess was a man who...

1. is a citizen of a FRee country, whose God Given right to life is affirmed in our highest 'law of the land'...the 2A of the Constitution...

2. resided in a state that recognizes open carry {IIRC], but allows for the infringement of 2A by the state, in the form of 'liscensing' its citizens for CCW by statute...

3. he went above and beyond, to be 'legal' by obtaining said permission slip from the state...

4. costco ignored the letter of the same statutes, and failed to post a 'kill zone' warning on their door...

5. scott then proceeded to have the nerve to shop at this store, and upon inadvertantly uncovering his weapon, further had the gall to verbalize his military service, and his successful submission to infingment and his RIGHTS as a citizen...to a low wage punk in the store...

6. said punk dropped dime and called in the bully squad, who responded to ONE MAN with multiple cars, swat, and helo coverage...all these individuals of this mini army being 'prepped' for a firefight by said low rung employee and the para military radio operator...eventually, the punk realized he initiated a potentially fatal chain of events, but the machinery was already in motion...

7. one of these entities called for an evac of a large box store, possibly with dozens if not hundreds of innocent citizens, also going about their day in FReedom, being jacked into a heightened state of emotion [fear] of the unknown 'danger' that they were being exposed to...

8. amidst the chaos, scott walked peacefully thru the store, exited the building, PAST the first cop, and was 'fingered' by the employee and physically assualted [touched or grabbed] by a rather large man, who was most certainly using an aggressive 'command' tone of voice and actions...

9. whether its 2-6 seconds, or 2-6 minutes, really doesnt concern me, as the whole scenario was based on a false premise that the state has the 'authority' to put hands on, and demand detention, of a man who was enjoying his life of FReedom in this country as a citizen...

10. the 'evidence' [what little has been trickled out] points to the fact that the FRee citizen, complying with the 'law' was given a matter of a few seconds to recognize and acknowledge a potential threat to his FReedom...ultimately, he didnt 'comply' quickly enuff and was cut down in the name of 'officer safety'...

11. officer friendly shouldnt have even been present to be in fear in the first place, unless he drove the store by to 'enforce' a case of theft, IF scott left the store without paying for the merchandise he damaged...

12. this whole chain of events was based on hearsay evidence, of 'crimes' which do NOT exist, [albeit the destruction of property had a potential to be unpaid] THEREFORE the entire shooting 'fault' lies with the costco employee and the dispatcher not working within the letter of the law, what there is left of it anyways...

13. whether scott was a pill head, was 'seen' with a weapon, was aggravated with the employees of the store etc...NONE of that matters, as they had no reason to be confronting and demanding ANYTHING of him except that he would be expected to pay for the case of water he opened...

14. case of bottled water...$3.99

15. having yer life snuffed out in the blink of an eye for $3.99...the costco of doing business with a statist government and grazing sheep...

MR Rogers has repeatedly pointed out that the situation developed VERY quickly into a fatal 'fight'...one that could easily have been avoided IF mosher had taken the time to determine the facts on the scene for himself...

I see it more 'black & white' at this point in my life...they shouldnt have even been there in the first place...

but where we are as a society, and intrusive gubmint 'laws' being what they are today, mosher most certainly has the requirement to establish the facts on the ground, and having force of numbers, weapon at a ready position, did in FACT have ample opportunity AND obligation to simply 'ask' to speak to erik scott instead of assaultin him and endangering the lives of my countrymen with his over aggressive and fearful 'tactics' that resulted in a mans death...

/rant, sorry for the long .02...

282 posted on 10/08/2010 6:47:10 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: editor-surveyor

Source?

But let’s talk about those seats.

1. The seats that showed residue in tests were in a part of the aircraft that was far from the ceter wing tank.

2. Tests demonstrated that such residue would have been degraded in ocean water in two days, and the seats had been at the bottom of the ocean for weeks when recovered.

3. Not one passenger’s body...not one...showed the damage that would have resulted from a missile strike or bomb explosion. The structural damage is very much inconsistent with a missile or bomb detonation.

Sorry, but once we look at all the facts in evidence, any missile that this aircraft becomes a physics-defying superweapon that would have had to be fired by Captain Picard. It would be a missile that was fired at night without anyone seeing a launch, that struck a target that should have been well out of range both vertically and horizontally, that left a streak visible to witnesses on Long Island but not combat trained pilots in the air, was (unlike any other SAM) in boost phase when it reached the target and blew it apart without leaving evidence of any explosion on the passengers, structure or the seats near the impact zone, but left magically waterproof warhead residue on seats in the aft section, bypassing row after row of seats and bodies before depositing the crucial evidence. Oh, and it also had to make a sound that had the acoustic characteristics of a fuel tank explosion rather than a warhead detonation.

Sorry, no sale.


283 posted on 10/08/2010 7:08:52 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: editor-surveyor

BTW, see the link I posted if you haven’t clicked on it. A bullet fired from the level and angle of the Depository through two ballstic mannequins with bones not only followed the “magic” path, it was only slightly more damaged than the original bullet.

As for secrecy...I suspect there were government officials who did some things during the initial couple of days (when they believed that the assassination might be the opening move in a Soviet attack) that they don’t want to come out until after they’re dead.


284 posted on 10/08/2010 7:19:26 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback

I cannot imagine why you would expend so much effort to protect this obvious coverup.

Hundreds of witnesses described the missile ascent and strike, and not one of them could have had any reason to fabricate anything, and the gov’t’s extreme attack on Jack would make no sense if the witnesses were wrong.

Anyway, enjoy!


285 posted on 10/08/2010 8:34:02 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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