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'Whoosh' sound of wind turbines too loud for some
MSNBC ^ | October 5, 2010 | Tom Zeller Jr.

Posted on 10/05/2010 3:00:48 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

VINALHAVEN, Maine — Like nearly all of the residents on this island in Penobscot Bay, Art Lindgren and his wife, Cheryl, celebrated the arrival of three giant wind turbines late last year. That was before they were turned on.

“In the first 10 minutes, our jaws dropped to the ground,” Mr. Lindgren said. “Nobody in the area could believe it. They were so loud.”

Lawsuits and complaints about turbine noise, vibrations and subsequent lost property value have cropped up in Illinois, Texas, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Massachusetts, among other states. In one case in DeKalb County, Ill., at least 38 families have sued to have 100 turbines removed from a wind farm there. A judge rejected a motion to dismiss the case in June.

Like the Lindgrens, many of the people complaining the loudest are reluctant converts to the antiwind movement.

“The quality of life that we came here for was quiet,” Mrs. Lindgren said. “You don’t live in a place where you have to take an hour-and-15-minute ferry ride to live next to an industrial park. And that’s where we are right now.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Illinois; US: Maine; US: Massachusetts; US: Pennsylvania; US: Texas; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: energy; fail; failure; green; illinois; kennedyfamily; maine; massachusetts; obamasupporters; pennsylvania; texas; whiners; wind; windpower; wisconsin; wussies

1 posted on 10/05/2010 3:00:50 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wind turbines cause noise pollution.

Ironic, the greenies big idea to eliminate one kind of pollution causes another kind of pollution.


2 posted on 10/05/2010 3:03:20 PM PDT by Brookhaven (The next step for the Tea Party--The Conservative Hand--is available at Amazon.com)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Picture an Earth where every open space is covered in wind turbines. Each on extracting every Newton of force it can from the prevailing winds..... taken to the extreme, wind forces, at least over land masses, is depleted. What kind of climate impact does that bring? Worth thinking about.


3 posted on 10/05/2010 3:04:40 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Wow msnbc article. Hmmm. Those things kill birds also and put out their own weather too.


4 posted on 10/05/2010 3:05:33 PM PDT by ColdOne (GOP. Gutless Old Politicians :^))......November and Beyond!)
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To: Brookhaven

If all of humanity were dead our cities completely gone and every trace of our race extinguished I’m sure they’d still find something to bitch about (yes when we go they certainly don’t plan too). Probably complain about the horrible doses of evil radiation and light pollution the sun blasts out every second. Save the Earth put ouf the sun!


5 posted on 10/05/2010 3:05:44 PM PDT by utherdoul
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Too bad the grey ponytail crowd has a phobia against nuclear power. They could have their carbon-free power and peace and quiet also.
6 posted on 10/05/2010 3:05:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

But I’ll bet good money that every last one of them voted for the Democrats and donated to them.

So, to them I say “here’s your sign!” IDIOTS


7 posted on 10/05/2010 3:06:20 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Lower property values equals lower property taxes.


8 posted on 10/05/2010 3:07:48 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: bgill

“Lower property values equals lower property taxes.”

Great now Obama will say wind farms generate lower taxes.


9 posted on 10/05/2010 3:08:59 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And wait until a flock of birds flies through/near them. Dead birds will litter the area and cause the turbines to malfunction. And what if an endangered bird is killed by the turbines who will the libtard/envio-cultist gov. go after?

And it isn’t even winter in Maine yet. Wait until the turbines go kaput due to cold weather, just ask Minnesota.

Wind turbines-Another demorat/libtard/enviro-cult failure that we are left paying for.


10 posted on 10/05/2010 3:09:27 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: stockpirate

Yikes, sorry I gave him the idea!


11 posted on 10/05/2010 3:09:58 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

We’re missing a good bet here.
The shredded poultry downstream could be fed to the starving victims of the Baraqqi Depression.


12 posted on 10/05/2010 3:10:48 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: stockpirate

Its a tourist island you know its a grey pony tail crowd and every Rep is a D in Maine, and the Governor and then they have the two witches. Screw Maine!


13 posted on 10/05/2010 3:12:09 PM PDT by omega4179 (Rino hunt 2010!)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

The seagulls eat the dead from these bird-killers.


14 posted on 10/05/2010 3:12:42 PM PDT by omega4179 (Rino hunt 2010!)
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To: nascarnation

LOL true and the feathers collected to make down covers and pillows for them /s


15 posted on 10/05/2010 3:12:51 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: Brookhaven
Hee hee hee!

The imbecilic folly of the "superior intelligence" bleeding-heart useful idiot leftists on full display!

SCHADENFREUDE, is all I have to say!

16 posted on 10/05/2010 3:13:12 PM PDT by parisa
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To: bgill

No, they just raise the milliage rate. My property value dropped $23K this year and my taxes are up $38 over last year. They can put a fan in my backyard, I love wooshie noises. ;-)


17 posted on 10/05/2010 3:15:11 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: stockpirate
“here’s your sign!”

Great Blue Collar reference.

18 posted on 10/05/2010 3:17:01 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: bgill

Well you know he is now sayng that for most americans their taxes have gone down since he took office.

He just leaves out that they also happen to be unemployed.


19 posted on 10/05/2010 3:17:28 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

That’d be me, blue collar.


20 posted on 10/05/2010 3:18:33 PM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Aw poor babies. They were so happy to see those eysores and they got earaches. typical libs.


21 posted on 10/05/2010 3:20:14 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: stockpirate
They do break...
22 posted on 10/05/2010 3:20:53 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: omega4179

And what is not picked off by seagulls will be eaten by sharks. Pretty soon windmill parks at sea will permanently attract sharks.


23 posted on 10/05/2010 3:26:01 PM PDT by 353FMG (Unless stopped, ISLAM will be the end of America.)
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To: Gaffer
What kind of climate impact does that bring? Worth thinking about.

The left will not bring this up until we have 100% dependence on windmills, then they will pull the rug out to create a new crisis.

There has to be a local effect as a minimum. The large scale impact of slowing the winds will be an interesting study.

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

Nothing is for free, and all processes are less than 100% efficient.

These are some of the basic truths of nature the left doesn't understand.

24 posted on 10/05/2010 3:27:03 PM PDT by SteamShovel (UTOPIA...Isn't)
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To: SteamShovel

Then, I think it is feasible, as a reaction to the AGW theory, that WINDMILLS CAUSE AGW, too!!!!!!!! Hahahahhaahahaa


25 posted on 10/05/2010 3:28:37 PM PDT by Gaffer ("Profiling: The only profile I need is a chalk outline around their dead ass!")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Coal power plants are contained and produce cheaper power. Coal Rocks!

Pray for America


26 posted on 10/05/2010 3:29:34 PM PDT by bray (A November to Remember)
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To: BigEdLB

They do break...

That was AWESOME!!!!!!


27 posted on 10/05/2010 3:29:58 PM PDT by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League West Champions!)
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To: Gaffer

I have wondered about that also.


28 posted on 10/05/2010 3:34:18 PM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I'm battling wind turbines within my city limits right now.

The article is typical in its dismissal of health concerns and property values, then cites studies by the wind lobbyists and Obama’s dept of energy! There are reasons to be concerned about effects on health when sited too close to dwellings and there are multiple independent studies showing loss of property values.

29 posted on 10/05/2010 3:36:49 PM PDT by PDMiller
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I’ve been within a hundred yards of the wind turbines here in PA and the wind rustling through the leaves on the trees was louder than the turbines.


30 posted on 10/05/2010 3:38:06 PM PDT by Racer1
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To: Racer1

I took a hike through a wind farm of about 60 turbines in Scotland two years ago, I couldn’t hear the turbines over the actually wind.

A bigger problem is the flickering shadow they cast, I would hate to have that hitting my house.


31 posted on 10/05/2010 3:47:18 PM PDT by Sparky1776
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost
And what if an endangered bird is killed by the turbines who will the libtard/envio-cultist gov. go after?

No one. Government motives are pure.

A local redneck in my area of north FL is in prison for shooting an eagle. Same outcome, but impure motive. Go to prison.

This is the kind of absurd thinking that eventually rationalizes gulags and concentration camps.

32 posted on 10/05/2010 3:53:59 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Tyrants should fear for their personal safety.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The only people who benefit from wind energy are the turbine manufacturers, the construction companies and union members who build the windmills, and the investors who collect the federal energy subsidies. Taxpayers and energy consumers just get higher taxes, higher energy bills, and sanctimonious lectures on why their very existence is a burden to the earth and all of mankind.

Wind power is a complete disaster

"Denmark, the world’s most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind power’s unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone)."

33 posted on 10/05/2010 3:58:51 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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To: Normal4me

Yours dropped? Mine is up - waaaay up.


34 posted on 10/05/2010 4:09:25 PM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We heard them on our honeymoon 20 years ago on the Big Island in Hawaii. No one lived near them at this far tip where people cast into the ocean and olivine is present in the lava rock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ka_Lae

I guess they have closed it down now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWgN8KJxPTA


35 posted on 10/05/2010 4:15:58 PM PDT by AmericaUnite
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To: Brookhaven
Ironic, the greenies big idea to eliminate one kind of pollution causes another kind of pollution.

My sis, the social worker, is a big fan of wind and solar.

Until she priced solar. It was "too expensive."

And until they tried to put a wind farm near her home in Kansas. It was "intrusive" and subject to "unwelcome noise" and "unwelcome vibrations".

Needless to say, shes still a big fan of wind and solar.

But "not in her backyard".

36 posted on 10/05/2010 4:20:56 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ping


37 posted on 10/05/2010 4:30:41 PM PDT by 4Speed
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

...but they are like sculptures, I think they’re beautiful.

~me, pretending to be a crunchy MA lib. You are convinced, no?


38 posted on 10/05/2010 4:39:36 PM PDT by small farm girl
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

I wonder what James Dyson thinks of all that "annoying buffeting"?

39 posted on 10/05/2010 4:41:37 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Racer1
I’ve been within a hundred yards of the wind turbines here in PA and the wind rustling through the leaves on the trees was louder than the turbines.

Thanks! I was beginning to think my ears weren't working right; didn't register the right frequencies or something.

40 posted on 10/05/2010 5:20:42 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
These be some seriously big mofos, but where are the houses? NIMBY!!


41 posted on 10/05/2010 5:29:36 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Brookhaven

I LIVED 20 FEET FROM THIRD AVE EL IN nyc. AT EYE LEVEL ON THIRD FLOOR. AFTER ONE WEEK, I NEVER EVEN NOTICED BOTH THE NOISE AND TREMBLINGS. POOR ME POOR POOR ME!


42 posted on 10/05/2010 5:37:47 PM PDT by otherjim
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The wind industry has long been dogged by a vocal minority bearing all manner of complaints about turbines, from routine claims that they ruin the look of pastoral landscapes to more elaborate allegations that they have direct physiological impacts like rapid heart beat, nausea and blurred vision caused by the machines’ ultra-low-frequency sound and vibrations.

I wish they had actually stated the offending frequency range. There is some validity to certain levels and frequencies being intolerable to some persons. I am among this group of people myself.

Low frequency noises present problems higher frequencies do not. Higher frequency noises can be blocked out. Lower frequency is more difficult and no ear protection devices can stop it. Low frequency noises don't just work on the ears they penetrate your skeletal system and the skull itself which is part of your hearing system.

I imagine many factors can make it better or worse as far as the noise generated goes. Design, prevailing wind speeds, and the gear boxes and blade pitches would definitely be factors.

As for claims of it being physiologically damaging? It's not junk science it is Vestibular Science. The Vestibular system {meaning auditory processing system} is in fact linked to anxiety especially in cases where that processing system is damaged to start with.

Just my own story to relate on this. TVA was constructing a high voltage transmission line across my property. I live in a wooded rural area. I am a day sleeper. Their dozers were a good 500-800 feet from the house. Yet every time I laid down to go to sleep it sounded as if they were coming through the house. I would get up and not hear them. Go to the door and barely hear them.

Many of us have heard dripping faucets at night can be literally maddening. This is the exact same principle. It is the individuals sensory filtering which can be making the noises much louder than what others can hear or normally tolerate.

I know this because I have to live with such a disorder and in my case it is too the point of permanent disability. It sets off seizure activity. I wouldn't be rushing to judgment saying the persons complaining are making mountains out of mole hills or do not have legitimate complaint.

43 posted on 10/05/2010 6:12:22 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Most people’s jaw drops when they are up close for the first time to these things simply because they are blown away with how big they are. They are huge, and make a huge swoosh noise. Take a ride through west Texas from Dallas and you will quickly get the picture about why people get upset.


44 posted on 10/05/2010 6:31:07 PM PDT by devane617 (November!)
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To: ColdOne

They also increase the cost of electricity because they are so inefficient.


45 posted on 10/06/2010 8:30:58 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: otherjim; 50mm; Old Sarge

You don’t have to YELL. Keyboards have a “Caps Lock” button on the left side, just above the “Shift” key.


46 posted on 10/06/2010 10:36:25 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: mmanager; Fiddlstix; Fractal Trader; FrPR; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

47 posted on 02/20/2011 5:06:38 AM PST by steelyourfaith ("Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips)
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